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     doubleg_g² New member Username: doubleg_g² Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 67.191.245.107 |
I'm a little new at this website, specifically the discussion board aspect although I've been a longtime fan/supporter for a goodwhile). I was writing because I have a passion for apolegetics and see a great need for identifying those in the Body of Christ who seem to be promoting herectical stances. However, I've seen instances where it seems to have been taken out of hand. I've seen instance where people have apparently degenerated into name-calling and sharp language while saying that it's permissible because Jesus/the apostles did the same things too (if you want an example, check out this website....... (www.pulpit-pimps.org) Though there many things that they seem to be doing right, there seem to be plenty of examples where they seem to be in the wrong....and I'm a bit confused as to what to make of it. | ||
| doubleg_g² New member Username: doubleg_g² Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 67.191.245.107 |
Some scriptures that one gave me to back up the point that it was pemissible to make fun of those who are herectics/deride them or constantly use sharp sarcasm whenever they make statements are as follows: Mat 15:7 [Ye] hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, Mat 16:3 And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times? Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites? Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Tts 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. | ||
| doubleg_g² New member Username: doubleg_g² Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 67.191.245.107 |
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men’s] bones, and of all uncleanness. Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me. Luk 11:44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over [them] are not aware [of them]. Mat 15:14 … they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men’s] bones, and of all uncleanness. Phl 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect. 2Pe 2:12 ¶ But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2Pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, [as] they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots [they are] and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. | ||
| doubleg_g² New member Username: doubleg_g² Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 67.191.245.107 |
2Pe 2:18 ¶ For when they speak great swelling [words] of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, [through much] wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose for yourselves one bull and prepare it first, for you are many, and call upon the name of your god, but put no fire to it.”26And they took the bull that was given them, and they prepared it and called upon the name of Baal from morning until noon, saying, “O Baal, answer us!” But there was no voice, and no one answered. And they limped around the altar that they had made.27And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, “Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened.” Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 2Cr 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 1Jo 2:18 ¶ Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there MANY ANTI CHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1Jo 2:19 They went OUT FROM US, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 2Pe 2:1 ¶ But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Tts 1:10 ¶ For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Tts 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. Tts 1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. Tts 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore REBUKE THEM SHARPLY, that they may be sound in the faith; Someone stated that Scripture STRONGLY, in the most “unloving” words possible, denounces and blasts those who twist the Word, teach false doctrine, and lead the sheep astray....and that to call out those who choose to use Mockery/HARSH words or claim we should be loving toward herectics, is to denounce Christ and the Apostles Bottom Line: Is name calling/making jest of those who teach heresy promoted in the Bible? And if so, where to draw the line? Love to hear feedback so I can be as sound as possible....Blessings..... | ||
| still_small_voice Intermediate Member Username: still_small_voice Post Number: 427 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.74 |
Gal.6.1 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. 1Tim.6.11 But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness. 2 Tim 2: 24 The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 1 Pet 3: 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed AND DO NOT FEAR THEIR INTIMIDATION, AND DO NOT BE TROUBLED, 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong. Having posted those verses for your review, I must say, I suppose I am a heretic, I don't mind what you call me, impoliteness annoys me though. SSV |
