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jacobiztehroxor
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Username: jacobiztehroxor
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 68.227.23.169
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 3:30 pm: | 
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Is it true that when the first 100 or so pages that Joseph Smith translated were lost, he couldn't translate them again? That seems really fishy to me. And also if my religion is true then why didn't god tell the prophet that black people are just as equal until AFTER the civil rights movement? |
godchild
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Username: godchild
Post Number: 181
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 65.182.235.132
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:07 pm: |
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That's my understanding, jacobiztehroxor. It would be easier if I could just call you jacob. Hope that's okay. 
Your second question confused me a little. Let me see if I'm understanding. There were several important changes in the mormon doctrines:
(1) polygamy
Stopped when Utah wanted to become a state.
Still in mormon books, accepted as an eternal ordinance (in other words, when men get their own worlds and lots of wives to "multiply").
(2) Civil marriages
At one time, civil marriages were allowed in the chapel (That's where I was married in '73). Then it changed so that members can only marry in one of the classrooms or other rooms.
(3) Blacks holding the priesthood is a big one.
(4) Changes to the bom.
First look at the introduction to the current Book of Mormon:
The Book of Mormon...is a record of God's dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas...The record gives an account of two great civilizations. One came from Jerusalem (to America) in 600 B.C., and afterward separated into two nations, known as the Nephites and the Lamanites. The other came much earlier when the Lord confounded the tongues at the Tower of Babel. This group is known as the Jaredites.
Are you aware all the Book of Mormon text would have been engraved on only one third of the gold plates? "two thirds were sealed up, and Joseph was commanded not to break the seal" (Journal of Discourses, vol.3, p.347).
Could one-third (two-thirds being sealed) of a volume of metal leaves six by eight by six (the Prophet Joseph), or eight by seven by four inches (Martin Harris), or eight by seven by six inches (Orson Pratt) contain a sufficient number of plates, each as thick as parchment or tin, to yield the necessary space for the entire text of the Book of Mormon?
My question is: The LDS church spends millions on archaeology. Why aren't they looking for the lost plates?
I apologise for not seeing your post sooner. |
godchild
Intermediate Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 182
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 65.182.235.132
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:30 pm: |
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Martin Harris acted as scribe for Smith during the spring of 1828. During that time Smith dictated at least 116 pages of text. Harris begged Smith to let him take the manuscript to show his wife to reassure her that Smith was truly working on a book of great worth. Smith finally agreed to let Harris borrow the pages. However, it is assumed Mrs. Harris, fearing the loss of their money in this scheme, destroyed the pages. Smith evidently feared that Mrs. Harris was setting some sort of a trap to test him. If he couldn't come up with the same translation again she could expose him as a charlatan. To avert this crisis, Smith announced that the angel had informed him that the record also contained the "small plates of Nephi" and he was to skip over the part he had previously translated and begin his manuscript with these pages.
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Do you remember what Joe Smith said about the bom? "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was tyhe most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book."
Can any mormon name one (1) precept for man to live by listed in the bom that is not already in the Holy Bible? Remember js said ..., "than by any other book." He said it was "the most correct book", but did he say it was a "complete book". Do mormon missionaries share with prospective converts that their bom IS NOT COMPLETE, according to the testimony of the first mormon prophet? |
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