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not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 70.183.138.194
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 9:36 pm: | 
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you know wingsaglow, you are in just a huge fantasy about yourself and your life.
who is stalking you? you wish you were significant enough in some realm to be stalked.
first, since you are an officer who wears a bullet proof vest yeah sure, you would know that stalkers are always out to harm someone.
your information is all over this and other web pages. why do you attack people who ask you if you are lying. that just proves you are.
you mix truth with lies and lies with truth and have no conviction about going on the attack to perfectly innocent comments. why don't you just answer the questions and if you aren't guilty then why go on the offensive?
oooooooooooooooohhhh. "Stalking is against the law". bada bing bada boom. you are so powerful. why don't you repent for stalking carman, his mom and vada and anyone you think can out fox you. maybe tink can whisper this into your circumsized ear, change your name to foxy but not in the hott sense.
you take rationality and honesty and drive your car through it like a drunk ramming into a living room some warm summer night. and it's know nothing, not no nothing.
how's your big tv gig going? you living on the streets of LA now and rising to fame? are your kids out there with you playing fake street cop?
what time do you put them to bed? 8 pm like you should?
and since you are so professional and Christian and all, how about trying a more normal or edifying thread. you show your real talent and mental health with that title tootsie.
buy a Bible, read it and try to live it. at least try.
God Help YOU. |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 70.183.138.194
| | Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 9:46 pm: |
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speaking of stalking, don't you have the MOST posts of anyone of all time on "CARMAN'S" topic threads?
you don't really even know, (correct spelling of know) the guy do ya? don't you pass along false prophecies to him and try to sing on his stage productions? didn't you use vada like a backstage pass around here to make others think you were part of that ministry group?
are your wings all aglow with multiple manipulations? are you a jealous little fairy creature with a bad temper and bad character like tink, and do you think it's okay for men to have serious peter pan syndrome thing goin' on? yeah, you seem like a very jealous person come to think of it. and don't have the tiniest ability to confess and apologize. last time we looked, being a dishonest ego maniac wasn't really virtuous.
but you will set us straight. you ain't never done nothin' wrong here or with carman ever. you are perfection and innocence personified. hack hack hack, sorry can't stop the gagging reflex.
see you, wouldn't want to be you.
walk_thru, don't ever let her stop you from asking any question or sharing any opinion. she really is a big fake and has no humility. ignore her. watch her responses carefully, there is wisdom in that. look for who defends her and how too. you will learn and discern.
pray for her charms to come off of momma nancy and vada and for her to be chastised for attacking oksana who she is supremely jealous of.
your posts were just dandy. godly too. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.213.146.27
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 11:49 am: |
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No all that you have said here is not true, but then you also know about double standards too, because you swim with them too. For the truth was revealed to me, and you have hurt me more than you'll ever know. As for Vada, no I will always love her, and have never used her. As for perfection and innocence personified. No I'd be the first to tell you that I am not perfect, but am human and at least I am for real, and would never attack another soul over on the other site where I was surrounded by what I thought was real friends. I'd also never play a tag team special on another soul to try and bring a down fall to their very salvation either.
I would never lead you on and throw you into a shark infested waters where they'd eat you alive, and spew you out. That's not my nature, but then for you to point fingers at me would also have them pointed right back right?
You my sweetest friend have hurt me the most, because I really cared about you. Yet your real agenda was shown to me, and yes I too will not sink myself to a lower level by spreading it all here for the world to see like melted (hotte)lava butter.
Have fun with me and keep on toying with me like you have so many others, but I will still forgive you, because that is what my Father told me to do when he showed me who you are. I feel crushed by lies and hurt by you. Yes keep on crushing me and have fun laughing while you do it if that makes you feel better, and more holyier.
I will however miss the friendship that I had with you oviously more than you did with me, and that includes another sweet soul that I still care about too. I will not spread what was messaged to me, because I really did and still do care.
GBU still
A very hurt, and crushed wingsy |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.213.146.27
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 12:05 pm: |
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So did you laugh when you found out you made me cry?
Do you feel better for making me think that you were my friend?
When all along you were just toying with me?
Is that how real Christians treat each other?
You know what really hurts the most?
Was when I got back home from being in the ER all evening with my husband. It was to have your messages and not from your real site, but from the other one attacking me, and then blocked so that I couldn't even respond when you knew all along what was sent to U, and not your other site. I still just so happen to care about the sweet friend whom you sent my way, and I will still always forgive you. When it is you who have hurt me the most, because you were my friend.
I will turn my other cheek and after the hurting is healed I will never look back again. I will swim into new waters where the fish there will surround me in real warmth and love, and not in a cold ice reality of what oviously never was.
I still will love you and your friend that you sent to me, and will still cherish the happier memories of shared fun, and laughter that we had.
Maybe for you it was just a fake friendship, but for Tinkerbell it was for real. |
be_happy
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Username: be_happy
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 168.158.181.143
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:21 pm: |
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Boy, I need to just be blunt about this. Wingsaglow, you have so many posts dating back about 3 years.
Girl, GET A LIFE. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR •••. STOP THE MOON FAIRY DANCE AND LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE. You are way too stuck on this. This is your addiction. Move on. Celebrate the life God gave you and it does NOT include Carman.
Move on. |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 216.54.35.34
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 1:56 am: |
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i am not your old friend Darlene. you are never honest about your faults or problems with character.
generalizing about not being perfect isn't much of a disclosure. and what's up with the hawaii thing with carman. he just has to defend him self defiantly and do the revenge dance in his own manipulative way.
he does have that maffia mentality he is "accused" of. he is retaliatory and he is manipulative. what is his problem, dude! he has the sopranos up on his myspace too. so the lead is a gay man in real life and the one time we tuned in to it, not just passing it by as fast as possible, he was simulating oral sex being given to him in bed. yeah oh yeah carman have his face on your pics section on myspace so we can all remember him faking an orgasm and his heartless, wicked violence on the show.
does carman have the capacity to review his own wrongs and admit to them? he acts like a 15 year old boy and is truly defensive and controlling out the gazoo. does he apologize easily and humbly? No he does not. you can measure mental health by defensiveness they say on the web. who does that apply to here? NOT ME say you?
carman, stop the competing for power and stop the egotism of always defending yourself. you probably don't give a guitar pick or a dingy dime about the culture war and witchcraft in hawaii. or the intense hatred for the US military there. ever read the book of James and make it your accomplishment to live it out, all the way carm?
he just wants to make it a conquest, an aquistion and a lusty imbibement. what the heck does he care about what God might be caring about. you girls don't think that he is capable of any lust, let alone that he actually acts some of his lusts out. he is not a person or thing to be worshipped.
the hfl character says she has never met carman and yet she knows so very much about him. if she is God's Carman Apostle, wouldn't she have a problem with lying, let alone hating and wishing evil on people that don't drink the same kool aid she does. she knows plenty about God and Carman her second god, but doubtful that she actually knows Him because He is love and truth.
the way people "protect" carman is like he is a child. it's really really gross and distortional.
does the man ever hear the voice of God directly?
does he have any italian witchcraft operational in his spirit or outlook? does he admit to temper problems too? and get a load of the sanitization of his family life on myspace. so mario didn't call you fat blank carm and you weren't terrified of him and shamed by him? your dad and mom were so CHRISTIAN right? is that why you were sent to military school cause your home life was so sweet and funny and gentle.
why the heck don't you all just be honest? say how the Lord forgave your family when they realized what they were like? God had mercy on you or used you anyways? or how therapy would be a good option? God is close to those who are of broken and contrite heart. He resists the proud.
it is written.
be_happy you are so right on about darlene and her addiction. |
giulia
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Username: giulia
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.177.238
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 7:32 am: |
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"why the heck don't you all just be honest? say how the Lord forgave your family when they realized what they were like? God had mercy on you or used you anyways? or how therapy would be a good option? God is close to those who are of broken and contrite heart. He resists the proud.
it is written."
I think that it is obvious that everyone who is Christian has a past, as there has to have been a point of conversion, somewhere.
I also know the bible says to forget the past and to not bring it up, instead to think on lovely and pure things.
I Know we don't all do this and there are wide and varied excuses or defenses for this guilt and the man who fathered my faith used to say "if you justify yourself, God don't" and it is true, because defenses only serve to protect pride and in Christ, there is no pride.
I think that it is good for the family of God to work out it's salvation together, as I would rather be right when the day comes, than to live in a lie down here and not get in when the day comes.
I know there will be few that find it and even those that are chosen will be deceived down here as the cares of this world will ring louder to their ears than the truth and values will be compromised as some will choose to live in the jungle rather than the kingdom (the jungle can really look like the kingdom sometimes).
I think Carman has created some great songs and throughout time has done a great and timeless job of communicating the gospel, I think his work will live on.
I am so not in the celebrity mentality though and I think Carman also realizes that being made into a king by his fans is not the way to go, if where you are going is heaven.
I ink it would all be so hard for him and that he needs a lot of prayer and I think that as a family we must be empathetic and forgiving and loving towards one another and encourage each other to grow and not bite each other all the time.
PS. I have always posted under Julia, that is how you say my name, but you spell it Giulia, that doesn't mean you say it Gulia, without the i, just thought I'd clarify first off, my other account got suspended, don't know why. |
giulia
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Username: giulia
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.177.238
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 7:41 am: |
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I also want to say that I am ashamed of even posting on here and interacting as I think the mentality on here is of a very low standard.
I think many have issues and pointing at others does not lessen your own as when you judge a brother or sister you judge the law.
Still we need to be discerning and divide the word rightfully and truthfully as the spiritual will judge even the angels, but not the carnal, the carnal will fall under the same judgment they give as it is written "you will be judged with the same standard you use to judge" (using my own words), but the spiritual have already been judged by the rule which they use to judge and have removed the log from their eye. |
revelation
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Username: revelation
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.125.82.110
| | Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 5:16 pm: |
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This forum is gonna close..PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!! |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 66.16.124.240
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 2:22 pm: |
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the Lord used the forum, revelation.
not always and not everything. He can work it for good if the Bible is accurate.
if those people who are really Christian or at least sincere possibly mature will pray godly prayers like asking God to take what is evil and turn it to good or to work all things together for the good, that would be something to PRAISE THE LORD ABOUT.
every single person who has commented around here has something to learn and something to repent for. God can definitely chasten carman or anyone else and He can definitely provoke to good works and holiness out of the ones who are just provoking without a truly "good" reason.
so much hate and so little real love. so much self and so little self less ness.
if the forum closes it doesn't mean God will close what He has or is doing. it's a very good point that carman for instance was probably dealt with many times in many ways and then this happened too. he can ask the Lord why and if he doesn't lie or isn't a victim in his mind or vain and whatever he does to block reality, he could realize whatever the Lord wanted or wants him to.
if he calls it all bunk or only goes along with defenders then he will lose and he will have something else happen to deal with his life and his character in the design of God. to say that all rebuffs or critical perspective and even some outrage is all wrong or of the devil is just defensive and rude.
c'mon where is all that Biblical knowledge and practice of it? |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 66.16.124.240
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 2:24 pm: |
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this isn't the only set of threads where people are attacking each other. it's on all of them and it's all over the www. no one is a martyr or a humonguous victim.
ask the Lord for His wisdom and His love about this and mean it. then don't come up with your own answer in mental witchcraft of arroagance and say that it's God.
false teachers false apostles false spirits and false ideas of granduer and perfection or the godliness of carman isn't cool.
God is the truth and He commands us to walk in love and in truth at the same time.
giulia just a short comment. you really say to others what is true about you and what you have done here. you might want to grasp for that log in your own eye and notice that you are truly projecting. have you ever prayed "against" someone or spoken negative judgmental words and "curses"? it;s easy to see why your account was blocked if you read far back. are you going to attack and defend now. how about thank you, i will take that into consideration and thanks for pointing it out. man, if anyone INCLUDING CARMAN ever said that here we could really PRAISE THE LORD.
also hellllloooo - hatred --is-- the same sin as murder.
even if you are supposedly "hating" for the Gospel's sake and "for" carman's image or ministry or whatever.
you just have to ask the question, how many people have come around and hated and prayed what they thought were godly prayers or if they defended carman in hate and or didn't want to face that he hates too.
no one here is God. pastors can pray out of position and their own thoughts that are not God's and they just are being religious or worshipping the thought of ministry. would God want pastors to curse or anyone.
unless they hear someone cursing carman or they think he is being misunderstood or hated? then it's okay?
does anyone know what God says "He" hates?
thankfully we can seek Him humbly through our relationship with Jesus. He speaks to the broken the contrite the humble and the pure.
want the truth about factnet and everyone on it and all comments about carman?
read four little verses,Romans12:1-4.
better yet, really read that entire chapter. apply to yourselves and then figure out
what factnet is really all about. |
giulia
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Username: giulia
Post Number: 19
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.149.213
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 7:09 pm: |
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no I don't read far back, don't like to drag up the past just for the sake of it, I know I have said some out of whack stuff, too busy to check out what else I wrote, I listen when it is about me, but not if it is not, whilst being and living Christian I have not prayed curses as i don't believe it is of God and I also think they will come back to you and I have never really thought bad enough about anyone to pray curses. And i think it is very unChristian and wrong to do.
Don't like to drag up the past and frankly I am amazed that people actually spend their time like that, what a drudgery of an existence, couldn't think of anything less exciting, actually perhaps "days of our lives" and "friends" come close to that.
Yes people always preach what they need to hear, I am very aware of that, to bring up the past to attack with is a bit of a low blow, don't you think?
Whilst pointing out stuff in the past for teaching purposes is constructive, to bring it up purely to attack with is the very opposite and not of God but of the devil. |
giulia
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Username: giulia
Post Number: 20
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.149.213
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 7:19 pm: |
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So if you can show me where that log is, I have my chainsaw on high power and will chop that nasty up real quick and throw another log on the fire, don't understand quotes without substance. It is either me, that I am slow, or it is you, that you are not clear? |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 66.16.124.240
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 9:56 pm: |
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not really bringing up past, just noticing that you put pressure on others and preach like a teacher about things you have very obviously said and done yourself. not sure what quotes you are mentioning. when in a hurry, you don't know what it might sound like.
other people like carman or whoever- as far as the past; if he just is obstinant and defensive then he isn't sorry or humble. public figures and people who make their living with the public's trust and donations should always be held accountable publically. to silence those things is actually more like a cult or deceptive. sometimes it looks like he makes things very personal that aren't necessarily personal from who is addressing something.
and if someone is deranged or hostile then surely this guy has the long range experience and has read and preached enough of the Bible to have a seasoned and love based set of responses. it's totally true what others have said about God watching over and listening in to the hearts and the words here whether typed or thought or spoken between others. every heart is weighed and everyone is tested. it would be a surprise to find out who actually passed some tests from God. whether they posted or not.
i do have a question and problem with CWO and his face with a direct quote that solely refers to Jesus the Christ. it kind of confirms some of the concerns and the points others have made or posted about him and those ego issues or worshipping him "and or as" God.
it is possible that his mom has taken over the place of a wife. it sounds like it and it looks like it.a guy that old and who has had such a catering or super childishly trusting rapport with his mom needs to dig deeper look closer at his "family dynamic".
supposedly if the information appears on fact net it can't be right. that would be a control tactic or something more like superstition and again defensive. can't he just ask and ask again until he is certain it's the Lord counseling him? it's really his problem and his responsibility. his wife should be in a higher position in his life not secondary to his mom. his mom would have to respect that and be appropriate. she would have to grow and adapt no matter how old she may be at this time. that is her responsibility. he can find that out in many places of reference.
if others are intolerable to the very thought of it, then there is something unhealthy about their relationship to him.
any part of our lives should be open to review and correction or adjustment. one thing for sure is, he should not be "pitied" or the ever famous "enabled". that is wrong on the person's part doing it and would be hindering to him. still there is so much hate that it's unbelievable. and no one admits to "hate", they call it something else.
fact net is probably one of the only places where people can be honest to or about carman and his family or his actions and attitudes. he has many many places that are kudo zones. he's gonna be alright. don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
let me know and when i come back some time i will try to clarify whatever quotes you are speaking of. |
not_alone
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Username: not_alone
Post Number: 11
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 66.16.124.240
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 10:18 pm: |
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yes also,it's really not cool that carman has a fantasy version of his upbringing and family system on myspace. it's not okay with God to lie for the sake of your ministry image.
carman has said many things about his brother and his mom and his aunt too that are not the maple syrup version on myspace. he said on stage that he thought of his brother when the toll booth scene in the Godfather happened. that's just one thing. he knows he is preveracating and he has enough people complimenting him and admiring him so he thinks he can just get away with it. he does not testify about how God brought him through his dysfunctional or abusive family system.
in years past when he would make more honest, albeit sarchastic comments or tell the truth about something in a humorous way it was more appreciated than the white wash or spin, whatever it is that he is doing to make himself and his background look better. talk about vanity and manipulation!
how can you trust someone who is so manipulative whatever his justification for it is? he is really judgmental of manipulative people as he has commented at different times to prove that, but that is because he is himself. not every minute and he is a good person in various aspects definitely. he could not have been so manipulated by the marriage fiasco if he was not in denial and deceptive himself. can he be honest about that or is all a humonguous victimization of him? that isn't honest either.
he isn't being honest on myspace, honesty about him on fact net is treated with deepest contempt and accusation or censorship. every one is wrong but him and the people who are related to him or look up to him or work for him?
it's only the devil and disturbed people sent to disturb him that are on fact net? see how that sounds like a cult? paul was honest about his faults and God loves the humble and the truly contrite. He is not fond of arrogance or vanity or blame re direction. it's not very admirable or worthy or honorable of character to act like a victim. there really isn't much more to say. |
giulia
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Username: giulia
Post Number: 21
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.149.213
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 11:55 pm: |
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"not really bringing up past, just noticing that you put pressure on others and preach like a teacher about things you have very obviously said and done yourself. not sure what quotes you are mentioning. when in a hurry, you don't know what it might sound like."
So I sound like a teacher, well must be doing something right because I don't set out to do any of that. Jesus was a teacher and i am following Him, so if I sound like a teacher I must be doing something right.
Which quotes are you talking about? Apart from the bible I haven't quoted anyone. Can you please clarify?
I have said and done the worst and lowest things imaginable myself, including live in total sin (as we all have), does that mean I shouldn't preach against it?
I have also overcome a lot and that gives me the stripes of a general in God's army. He has given me the authority I have, I certainly don't work at it.
In case you are wonderin, I am also like this in everyday life.
I also know that with that comes a lot of responsibility as I know a teachers teaches themselves and a preacher needs to live what they preach as well.
It is great that truth gets out, but I also think you are very judgmental and I know that you will be judged in the same way, so watch what's in your own back yard.
You are obviously not as transparent as you believe yourself to be, otherwise you would be using your real name.
I think Carman has done a tremendous amount for the kingdom of Christ and I also know he would have suffered fierce attacks from the devil from everywhere, he is accountable just as we all are. He has also got more responsibility than most.
And he is also subject to more deception than many. So perhaps you should be praying for him instead of trying to tear him down. |
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