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     soul1958 New member Username: soul1958 Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 75.100.5.61 |
The front page at Factnet http://www.factnet.org/ is featuring a story about the upcoming film, Knocking about two Jehovah Witnesses families, on PBS. Any feedback about the film from those who have watched it would be appreciated. | ||
| fatherofaking Intermediate Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 126 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.161.88.202 |
hey soul, it is on friday at 10pm here on the east coast. if i am able, i will watch it thanks | ||
| fatherofaking Intermediate Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 159 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.161.88.202 |
they took a stand for the individual conscience in the face of tyranny. it is rather amazing that they were able to do that. they were just beginning to gather strength when hitler was coming into power. who timed that one? thanks for the tip on the show. it was worth watching. | ||
| jeeprube New member Username: jeeprube Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 75.39.194.240 |
I find it interesting that two of the major donors for the film are wealthy JW lawyers. I mean we have a pro-JW film funded by JW's, with the support of the JW leadership. Sounds like propaganda to me. | ||
| praetorian Junior Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
Boy I really appreciate that information! Please share with me and all on the board where you secured your information from? I trust that PBS who also helped fund this independent lens series are not JW's? Yes? | ||
| jeeprube New member Username: jeeprube Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 75.39.194.240 |
I did my research. I did not accept at face value what you have accepted as truth. Go to the knocking website, check the list of donors, and research them. Pretty simple really, and no I'm not going to bother going back through that just so I can post it here to satisfy you. If you really have the attitude of the Boreans, then you will search out the information yourself, instead of depending on me to do it for you. This film was directed by a gay man who raised by a JW, funded by JW's, given unfettered acces by the JW's, and commented upon favorably by JW's. P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A | ||
| praetorian Junior Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
Jeeprub: What part of my very simple email did you not get? Therefore, I repeat the above, here; "Boy I really appreciate that information! Please share with me and all on the board where you secured your information from? I trust that PBS who also helped fund this independent lens series are not JW's? Yes?" I have indeed checked the website, and I am sorry I have not found the "list of donors" you refer to? It may very well be there, since you saw this right? Please help me with this? And since you don't know me, it is ignorant for you to make any statements regarding me or my person as to accepting anything at face value when it comes to truth or anything else for that matter as this is simply not so! And my word is at least as good as yours or anyone else on this board! Or do you feel you that yours is better than anyone else? Just curious! Now, again, please help me with my request. If you are unable to find what you are referring to; then how would you qualify (meaning what would you call what you did above in your post) the statements you made? Just curious? You can always email the website for this information-I guess. As to "P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A" what do you call what you are doing here? This sword pal cuts both ways!!! Sincerely, P | ||
| jeeprube New member Username: jeeprube Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 75.39.194.240 |
Major Funding Provided By Corporation for Public Broadcasting Walter Zaremba Reibling Family Foundation New York Community Trust Horizons Foundation Donor Advised Fund There you go, happy research. Why is your attitude so caustic anyway? Always with the "pal." | ||
| praetorian Junior Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 50 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
So, Jeeprub, which one is the JW who sponsored this? As you state above: “I find it interesting that two of the major donors for the film are wealthy JW lawyers.” Not caustic, just having fun! What would you like me to call you, sonny? | ||
| jeeprube New member Username: jeeprube Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 75.50.53.175 |
Sorry, as I said before you'll need to do your own research. Though I doubt you will. | ||
| praetorian Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 69 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
Jeeprub this one is a simple answer: I did, that is why I asked? Cheers! P | ||
| praetorian Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 70 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
Jeeprub: I remind you that your very first post here on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:32 pm: States and I quote in full: “I find it interesting that two of the major donors for the film are wealthy JW lawyers. I mean we have a pro-JW film funded by JW's, with the support of the JW leadership. Sounds like propaganda to me.” One of your other posts in this same string, posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:10 pm: states and I quote in part: “Major Funding Provided By Corporation for Public Broadcasting Walter Zaremba Reibling Family Foundation New York Community Trust Horizons Foundation Donor Advised Fund” You quote five sources above, stating that “two of the major donors for the film are wealthy JW Lawyers.” 1. First one is PBS, and not a law firm and to my knowledge is not owned by the JW’s either! 2. Walter Zaremba, the only attorney listed of the two you mention and I have no clue if he is etc. however there are things mentioned in his Bio listing him as politician and as a former Decorated Vet with Special Forces, etc., and there are other things mentioned that are recent that do not make him appear to be a JW! 3. Reibling Family Foundation is that, a family trust, that donates funds to various causes and things, and there are websites that list sources, mentioning that relatives of one of the founders is believed to be a JW. Not a law firm. 4. New York Community Trust, another trust that provides funding for various things, and while I have not found comments about someone related to the principals etc. as being related to the JW’s, and they are not attorney’s. 5. Horizons Foundation Donor Advised Fund, a fund that donates to funding to various causes and things, though I have not found comments about someone related to one of it’s members as being a JW, but they are not attorney’s! Could it be that the Engardio or Shepard fellows had these contacts and they are clearly not JW’s. Sincerely, P | ||
| jeeprube New member Username: jeeprube Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 70.250.211.46 |
Walter Zaremba Reibling Family Foundation These people are JW's. I realize that it's hard for you to accept this fact. I also realize how giddy JW's are right now with this knocking documentary. You feel like it validates you, and that's fine. JW's have done a lot of good things within the court system for the Freedom of Speech. However, the Watchtower Society did not iniate court proceedings because they felt some patriotic duty to protect people's First Amendment rights. Their publishing and literature distribution practices were threatened and they used the courts to stop it, period. Now we have some slick movie attempting to use this in an effort to gain positive PR for the Watchtower Society and JW's. | ||
| praetorian Intermediate Member Username: praetorian Post Number: 111 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.89.75.242 |
Wow. One is a law firm and the other one is not! Isn't that what you charged! Ok, so now what? It does nothing to validate me, as I validate me. How nice the JW's did something for Freedom of Speech, and other things not worth mentioning here in the legal forum, and you are right, they did it for themselves, isn't that what people do when they go to court, except their victories helped others. OK. Now you have some journalist gay guy who thought he would do this instead of choosing to doing a another video on Global warming that some JW’s contributed to, along with PBS and other entities, that are clearly not JW’s and it is the propaganda machine for JW’s Great!!! You are indeed entitled to your opinion! P. | ||
| crawly Intermediate Member Username: crawly Post Number: 102 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 4.240.81.238 |
oh come on now praetorian, the only reason the jw gov body does anything is to promote their cult somehow, and cover their tracks. it's not working anymore though..... they are losing big in court with the jw child molestation cases that they are paying out huge damages for. religious freedom isn't going to protect them. |
