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still_small_voice Intermediate Member Username: still_small_voice
Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.135
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:02 pm: |
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One simple question. Does the Bible contain any contradictions at all? Or is it infallible, inerrant, and perfect... God's revealed word to man from Gen to Rev? I say it does contain contradictions. What do you think? Note: If you are a fundamentalist, please bring more to the table than "the bible is true because the bible says it is true, because the bible says it is true it must be true". I would hope for more substance than that. Anyone care to comment? |
   
still_small_voice Intermediate Member Username: still_small_voice
Post Number: 115 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.135
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:13 pm: |
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Please disregard this thread, I am moving it to the doctrines/beliefs/proofs thread. Thank you. |
   
fatherofaking Intermediate Member Username: fatherofaking
Post Number: 122 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.161.88.202
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:19 pm: |
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i would tend to lean in this direction on that one. Traditional Jewish hermeneutics differ from the Greek method in that the rabbis considered the Tanach (the Jewish bibilical canon) to be inviolate. They did not consider inconsistencies in the text to be mistakes or corruptions. These problematic sections of the text were believed to be deliberate and containing meanings which had to be teased out of the text through the process of exegesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics#Medieval_hermeneutics the odd thing is that judaism has it's differences much like christianity. they range from liberal to orthodox. |
   
still_small_voice Intermediate Member Username: still_small_voice
Post Number: 147 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 207.200.116.135
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:17 am: |
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I think the liberal to orthodox in Judaism stems from the same thing Christianty divisions stem from. There are major problems, inconsistencies, and obvious flaws with the text. We see an example in the fact of Jewish sects. Yet, they read the same canon. It is my understanidng that when the Jewish canon came into being, about half the religious texts made it, and half did not. Almost indenticle to the Christian canon in the way it was voted on and some texts included and some excluded. The earliest "original" Christian manuscripts are from about 300 ad and they differ one from the other in some areas. The earliest Mark copies do not have the part about snakes and poison etc... As far as the Jewish texts, the multi-authorship evidence to me is overwhelming. Evidence of redaction and editing is significant. It takes a dug in, die hard, inerrantist to deny the obvious problems. |
   
arron Intermediate Member Username: arron
Post Number: 148 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.34.187
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:12 am: |
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i beleive the bible as laid down in the kjv.that is the only one i use. |