| Author | Message | ||
     johncollins New member Username: johncollins Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.143.75.131 |
Tried to visit the IAGM website today, and this is what I got. Jim, Hadasa, Whatsup, and now the entire IAGM. Who else can I pi$$ off this week?  | ||
| daved New member Username: daved Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.154.227.249 |
Hi John, I tried accessing IAGM via Google I received this warning: ___________________________________________________________ Warning- visiting this web site may harm your computer. You can learn more about harnful web content and how to protect your computer at StopBadware.org Suggestions: Return to the previous page and pick another result Try another search to find what you're looking for Or you can continue to http://www.iagm.org/ at your own risk. Advisory provided by Google daved (Message edited by daved on May 12, 2007) | ||
| johncollins New member Username: johncollins Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.143.75.131 |
That is too rich! Here's a screen cap of the warning. | ||
| david_munson Junior Member Username: david_munson Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 63.22.181.201 |
It's all the openness and accountability that makes the site like that. Is anyone really surprised by this? GG to the core. } | ||
| sidethorn New member Username: sidethorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 68.32.127.9 |
Not surprised! The IAGM has been a new form of GGWO all along. A false reformation. A serious lack of accountability. A refusal to face the tough questions and provide honest answers. Words without corresponding actions. Sort of a GGWO2! | ||
| dancer New member Username: dancer Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.40.211.238 |
You know when Worldwide Church of God (armstrong) started down its road of change and some reformation it had some groups that spinned off that claimed to stay in line with the truth that Armstrong Preached but with some slight changes (they were worse in almost transparent way). "The Plain Truth" Magazine is still published by one of groups I believe. It took years for Armstrongs successor to take doctrinal and leadership change into action, in fact it was not him but those that followed him that did most of the changes. sidethorn hit it well. Accountability. I will add a word Trans..Never mind same ole same ole. There are some sincere people in these camps and some who really wanted change. I am 41 and I say it might get somewhat better with a spin off when I am 65 or so. | ||
| lmao New member Username: lmao Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.251.144.6 |
IAGM is nothing but a name. To are no theological or practical controls on its members. There is no system of accountability. There is no guarantee that if you go to one IAGM church that it will in any way resemble another. There is really no point in having it unless belonging to it means something. There are probably a handful of disaffiliated churches who have moved away completely from gg ways. For the rest, it is all they know. I don't know who fits where since I haven't listened to their sermons and don't have time to. | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.110.237 |
This link still works: http://www.southberwicktbs.org/AboutUs.html | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.110.237 |
And this link will make your moods better! http://www.thomtapp.com/colorstrips/index.html | ||
| johncollins New member Username: johncollins Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.143.75.131 |
Someone forwarded me a May 10th email from the iagm office, entitled, "IAGM Website": "The IAGM website, www//iagm.org [sic] is not available at present. The server the website was on was hacked and the site was damaged. It was not feasible to keep up with the repairs. Google tagged the site as a malware site that could damage computers. I don't know if the site would do that but that was the final problem that made us decide to close the site. I am sorry for the inconvenience, but it cannot be avoided.... Now for the good news. We will have the web site up and running again in the near future. It will have a new look and be more secure. Be looking for an e-mail to let you know when you can visit the web site. We are moving forward." I replied to the person who forwarded that to say, "Given the very minimal amount any of those guys seem to use the web, my guess is that there are far more folks from FN visiting their site than many of their own people. Why not tell THEM (i.e.: us here on FN) about the problem? But, true to form, they wouldn't get their hands dirty to post something like that on FN. I'm sure they still have people reading there and thus knew about the thread. But it's a deeply embedded tenet of Stevensism that you never "humanize" your "enemies" by even acknowledging them (unless to attack them), never mind actually try and dialog with them." | ||
| dancer New member Username: dancer Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.40.211.238 |
Come on Skip is a pretty nicy guy. He might be interested in talking here under his name. LOL | ||
| johncollins New member Username: johncollins Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.143.75.131 |
??? | ||
| shat_happens New member Username: shat_happens Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 24.59.1.234 |
how many of the good folks over at IAGM left because Carl's been an idiot since day one, vs those that left because he started taking pain meds and talking smack at the pulpit? is carl an angel of light (hair), or a fallen god? that's the real question. not that it's fair to group everyone together, i'm just wondering what the thought is on this. | ||
| firsttimer New member Username: firsttimer Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 24.18.7.221 |
I believe the group is slowly dwindling down because little by little the real "light" is turning on. Those who are left are the ones that have a very serious Kool Aid addiction and haven't truly taken the "first step" of acknowledging the true problem. They still hide behind statements like "I/We never taught that here" "this isn't Baltimore" etc. etc. Not being able (or willing) to see how deeply engrained they still are in that culture and system and yes they do believe that the only problems within GGWO occured in the last seven years or so. The ones who have seen the light don't seem to have a real voice in this group. It also appears that they lack any real purpose for who they are. Two years ago it was hard to conceptualize life with out "the group" and that there still is something very "special and unique" about their ministires. Now that people have expreienced life detached from the matrix they are also seeing that there are a lot of great, healthy, Christ centered not Pastor and church centered ministries and churches out there. Oops... maybe there isn't a real need for for a group of ex-GGWO pastors and churches that are still under the delusion that "they" (FW message, methods and ministries) are special as opposed to Jesus Christ being the only thing special about any church, group, christian or pastor. Maybe we can give up the arrogant notion that we have something special for the rest of Christendom and in humility decide that the rest of christianity has something to help us get normal. | ||
| sidethorn New member Username: sidethorn Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 68.32.127.9 |
Overall, the rest of Christianity does have Someone to help people get back to normal. That's Jesus Himself. He's the One to help people out. He's the One to be focused on. Not some pastor, not some special teaching you can't find anywhere else, not some program, not a church, but Jesus Himself. That's a big part of the problem at both GGWO and the IAGM. Their focus got off Jesus, and got onto men and their teachings. The whole groupthink mentality and group dependancy carried over to the IAGM from GGWO. Instead of seeing themselves as part of the universal body of Christ, many in the IAGM still saw themselves as a distinct, special, and 'separate' group. Just some of the GGWO mentality that sadly carried over to the IAGM. Any group that thinks of themselves as special and a cut above the rest when they're not is not really needed in the world at large. They think they have so much to offer the world out there when maybe the world out there could offer them a whole lot. Such is the IAGM. Maybe the IAGM would be a lot better off swallowing its pride, start becoming part of the rest of the Christian world out there and recieve all that the Christian world out there has to offer, including normality. | ||
| isabella New member Username: isabella Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.128.143.230 |
'Grace Ministries' (that's what is written on the sign at the local church in my area.) So...is it IAGM or GMIA or GM....MGA? This church is a fake thing...that wouldn't be so bad if they weren't destroying communities. These guys care more about $$$ than anything else (read people)... "THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL" Whatever you have in your heart is who you are. Thanks, Isabella | ||
| sidethorn New member Username: sidethorn Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 169.253.4.21 |
Old bad habits die hard!!!! Certainly true with the IAGM. Old ideas and ways of doing things. Ideas like don't think for yourself but blindly trust pastor to make your decisions for you. Never question the pastor or anything. Blindly obey, obey, obey. And of course pursue the almighty dollar. Get more money, money, money. You're so right about the $$$ there. Thats what they're so much into. Just like they learned at the Plaza in Baltimore. The IAGM is another cultic splinter group born of the GGWO cult of Baltimore. Not much more. Definately not worth attending. | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 62.197.163.162 |
This link still works efficiently: http://www.lgministries.org/online_media.php This funny Googy Goofers cartoonvideo tells how bucketheads turn normal again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVNBOIU6S0U&mode=related&search= | ||
| iaggwom New member Username: iaggwom Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 67.161.107.31 |
As fate would have it this discuusion seems to be going on every where http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1837973319671298067&q=IAGM&hl=en |
