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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The man claims to be the second coming of Christ. He has the 666 tattoos put on his body, and wears a 666 vest. He drinks, smokes, and has many woman. He claims that there is no hell or heaven. Here is the link to read up on this newest cult that is growing now to around 100,000
with over 300 churches now that he resides over.

Please check this man out, and his new age thoughts to how this new cult can be very dangerous. He resembles another man who poisoned his whole congregation, and was well known for being just as nuts as this one.

Look at this and you will see that we are in fact in the end times.When so many are being taken in by a smoking, drinking man with 666 tattoos, and then to his congregation that is also now getting the same 666 tattoos put on their bodies too.



Here's another link, and he calls himself Jesus: http://www.cultsoncampus.com/jose-luis-de-jesus-miranda.html


Here's another link where you can watch his videos at the bottom. To what he says and what his followers believe.
he is very dangerous and should have this cult known. So that people can warn their kids that this cult is not cool, but a sicknes in the mind for sick thinkers who will in the end sink.

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/c/creciendo-en-gracia/
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julia
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I've seen this guy before, he is a clown. I think anyone with half a knowledge of the bible can discredit him, don't understand where the followers heads are at
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gorobb
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Clowns can lead worship too... even with orange hair.
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bachman
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Gee, he's pretty silly. I mean read this from the CNN link:
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Although it's a number usually associated with Satan, not the son of God, de Jesus says that 666 and the Antichrist are, like him, misunderstood.

The Antichrist is not the devil, de Jesus tells his congregation; he's the being who replaces Jesus on Earth.

"Antichrist is the best person in the world," he says. "Antichrist means don't put your eyes on Jesus because Jesus of Nazareth wasn't a Christian. Antichrist means do not put your eyes on Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Put it on Jesus after the cross."

And de Jesus says that means him.
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I think we need better cults than this to prove we're in the end times. I vote for better cults!
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wingsaglow
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LOL Bachman, maybe so, maybe so, but he's still bringing in over 100,000 people who are just as crazy in their thinking for even following him. Maybe next time we'll all follow the ice cream man if he says that he's the holy ice cream Jesus supreme with walnuts on top.

It just goes to show that people are following anything that blows it's fowl stench down wind. Even if it is still full of dung.

Take care
Wingsy
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alexisd
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goodness, this is the funniest thing I ever heard. I know about a million people who have 666 tattos and claim to be either satan, jesus, or the antichrist, lol. Wow....so why is this guy getting so much attention?
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bachman
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I think he should have used the number "999" -- he could have said he has turned Satan's kingdom upside down or something.

But to use 666 is SO five minutes ago--it was used on all the OMEN movies and the remake, and everyone knows what it is. Every heavy metal band uses it.

If people would put a little more thought and creativity into their cults, I MIGHT be swayed to join -- it would be GREAT to be "told" all the answers and have a corner on the truth.

Maybe "bad/dumb" cults are a sign of the end? "And in the last days, silly and pointless cults will arise and lead many to tattoo themselves?"

Alas, I'll stick with Jesus. He's the only One who rose from the dead so I'm guessing He knows what happens after we die!
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wingsaglow
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Yes Bachman, he is a copycat, but he's milking more money than even the bands. Alexis I think he's getting so much attention, because people are hungry so their grabbing at anything to anyone who gives them a hope. Even if it's just from a dope with no hope himself.
He has led a people with lies, and they fell for it hook, line, and sinker which is going to sink them all.
Again it's so sad to even see their family members crying for their children. Where the one guy who was a millionaire. He divorced his wife, and married a woman in this cult. They now live in an apartment after giving the Jesus millions. Oh yeah this chimp that fed them a whole load of bananas is still full of fleas, and his flock can't even see his filth through all of his fur, but dirt is still dirt, and it smells bad with his real odor.

I don't know what Bible he's teaching from, but
Mine tells me all
About a man like this, and he's a wolf in sheep’s
Clothing. I'll even
Back up what my Bible says to prove he's a fake
When he claims that
There’s no Heaven or Hell.

In my Bible it says that I will see my King
coming from the very
Heavens above, and I haven't seen this guy coming
in the clouds nor have
I heard the trumpet sound.

Jesus did say that he would come back to build
his church, but that
the whole world would see him coming in the
clouds with glory with all
of his angels with him, not us mortals being
Angels here on earth, but
all of his angels are already with him.
So did this guy fly in on a donkey with all of
his so called angel
followers from earth? I sure never saw him. Did
the whole world hear the
mighty trumpet sounding through the heavens
above, and see every knee
that shall bow all around the whole world? I
haven't bowed my knee for
even a taco bell, and the only thing that I heard
from this guy was his
own mouth tooting his own toy horn.
So like the Bible says many shall come as a
wolf in sheep’s clothing

More below......
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wingsaglow
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bearing false witness, and leading many souls to
hell, fire and
damnation, and that to me also makes this man an
imposter. All that his
followers have heard to follow him like lambs to
the slaughter. Is his
sick vocal thoughts from his own messed up
twisted mind. That I know
with some good meds could really help him out,
but he's making too much
money off of his followers to get a doctors help
with his fantasy
thoughts.
Next we'll have another Jesus who will be a
female, and she'll claim
that Jesus was really a she, and then we'll see a
whole new following of
messed up brains following her cult.
Maybe we'll even have another cult where a
donkey is worshipped for
being Jesus brought back to life again now in the
form of an animal. To
me if it smells like fish it is, and this guy
smells like a whole tuna
boat that's lost his lifeline.

He only takes from the Bible what he thinks
will back up his sickness,
and then just like an infection he injects his
sick mind on others. Then
we have what we just saw on TV tonight from a
whole lot of people. Who
really needs some good meds, and a doctor's help.
So they won't lose
their very shirts giving their money to a guy who
will soon use it for
toilette paper. While he's sitting on his golden
idle throne.


Here's some real scriptures to back up that
he's a fake, and until I
see the clouds spread wide open and hear a
trumpet, and see the real
King with every knee around the whole world
bowed. Then this guy will

Some more below.....
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wingsaglow
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trully get to meet the real man called Jesus. Who
will cast Jose Luis De
Jesus Miranda into a burning lake of fire for all
eternity along with
all of his followers, and their 666 tattoos right
along with him. For my
God says that he holds the very keys to Heaven
and Hell. So this man who
claims there is no hell will then meet his new
eternity. Where there's
no taco bell, or even a drop of water, but with
all of his spicy lies
I'm sure that he'll fit right in with his new
followers being demons, an
while they’re stripping his flesh and he's
screaming for mercy. Gee I
guess then we'll really see this Jesus fried like
a chicken daily on a
spittle. As demons turn him and cook him as a
buffet that he's the main
Holy course. There is a price to pay for being a
devil, and
carrying his mark already is just his free
tattoo ticket. He won't pass
go to Heaven nor will he have any more riches.

So from my Bible these scriptures prove right
from the very word that
he is a liar, a fake, and a fraud. He will face
the real deal and his
will be a no deal where he'll lose everything
including his life. When
God throws his soul into the lake of fire
forever. What a sad man and
what a sickness to see another cult where he
claims he isn't dangerous,
but we've seen the so called not dangerous cults
before, and they all
end up the same way in the end.... LOST.

"...They will see the Son of Man coming on
the clouds of heaven with
power and great glory. And He will send His
angels with a great sound of
a trumpet, and they will gather together His
elect from the four winds,

Some more below.....
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wingsaglow
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from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew
24:30-31
"...They will see the Son of Man coming in
clouds with great power and
Glory. And then He will send forth the angels,
and will gather together
His elect from the four winds." Mark 13:26
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven
with a shout, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of
God. And the dead in
Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and
remain shall be caught
up together with them in the clouds to meet the
Lord in the air. And
thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore
comfort one another
with these words." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
"...We shall all be changed in a moment, in
the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound,
and the dead will be
raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must
put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality. So when
this corruptible has put on incorruption, and
this mortal has put on
immortality, then shall be brought to pass the
saying that is written:
'Death is swallowed up in victory.' 1
Corinthians 15:51-54
"And at midnight a cry was heard: Behold, the
Bridegroom is coming; go
out to meet him! Then all those virgins arose and
trimmed their lamps.
And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some
of your oil, for our
lamps are going out. But the wise answered,
saying, No, lest there
should not be enough for us and you; but go
rather to those who sell,
and buy for yourselves. And while they went to
buy, the bridegroom came,
and those who were ready went in with him to the
wedding; and the door


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wingsaglow
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was shut.... Watch therefore, for you know
neither the day nor the hour
in which the Son of Man is coming." Matthew
25:6-13
"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and
all the holy angels with
Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
All the nations will
be gathered before Him, and He will separate them
one from another, as a
shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He
will set the sheep on
His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then
the King will say to
those on His right hand, Come, you blessed of My
Father, inherit the
kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of
the world...." Matthew
25:31-34
"...that you may be counted worthy of the
kingdom of God, for which
you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing
with God to repay with
tribulation those who trouble you, and to give
you who are troubled rest
with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from
heaven with His mighty
Angels...." 2 Thessalonians 1:5-7
"In my vision... was one like a son of man,
coming with the clouds of
heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was
led into his
presence." Daniel 7:13
"...And seated on the cloud was one 'like a son
of man' with a crown
of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his
hand. Then another
Angel... called in a loud voice to him who was
sitting on the cloud,
'Take your sickle and reap, because the time to
reap has come... So he
who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over
the earth, and the
earth was harvested." Revelations 14:14-16.

"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye
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wingsaglow
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will see Him, even they
who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth
will mourn because of
Him. Even so, Amen.
'I am the Alpha and the Omega, the
Beginning and the End,' says
the Lord, 'who is and who was and who is to come,
the Almighty.
Revelations 1:7
"For this reason I also suffer these things;
nevertheless I am not
ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am
persuaded that He is
able to keep what I have committed to Him until
that Day." 2 Timothy
1:12
Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem,
coming down out of
heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for
her husband. And I
heard a loud voice from heaven saying, 'Behold,
the tabernacle of God is
with men, and He will dwell with them, and they
shall be His people. God
Himself will be with them and be their God. And
God will wipe away every
tear from their eyes; there shall be no more
death, nor sorrow, nor
crying. There shall be no more pain, for the
former things have passed
away. Revelation 21:2

See the proof is in the Bible Gee I wonder if
he can even read,
because if he could then he'd be able to see that
there is a Heaven, and
yes there is a Hell, and I'd hate to be in this
guys shoes when he is
thrown into the lake of fire where real demons
will rip at his soul
forever with no let up, and not even the real
Jesus will save him it
will be too late.

There is only true salvation through the real
Jesus Christ who does
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wingsaglow
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not smoke, drink, or have sex with woman, to 666
tattoos. Again if it
smells like fish it is.
Thanks for reading my take on another man who I
feel is a danger to
all of his followers, an is milking them for all
of their earthly
possessions. While he lives high on the hog from
telling his followers so
many lies.

The show tonight on him was very sad story
that again just shows the
day and age that we all live in. With way too
many messed up people
searching for something, and only being fed
bananas from another Jones
Town chimp.


And that my dear friends is the truth, and the truth shall set this nut free. When he too will see the real King coming in the clouds of Glory with the sound of the trumpet. Then his knees will bow when he comes face to face with the real Jesus.
The man with nailed scared hands, and nail scared feet. Oh yeah even a stiff drink, and a 666 tattoo won't be able to save this guy's soul.
He thinks he's all that now, but soon his reality will crash down on his very head
with the thunder of lightening from God the Father, and the son Jesus, and holy spirit all three in one.

Now that's my proof on another fake cult with no flavor flav.

Blessings ya all.
Wingsy
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oeg
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I have heard of this nut! He is in Sugerland, TX. just a little outside Houston. I saw a local report on him.....WOW....can
we say delusional!!!!!
He also was reported of saying there is no reason for him to pray
because who would he be praying to.....???????? What???
That's what he said........It's both, sad and scary and I guess it's
pretty funny at times.
WOW...i wouldn't want to be this guy when he stands
before God and gives an account of himself!
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wingsaglow
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Yeah I agree oeg, and it is guys like this drinking, smoking non praying wolve.... That's going to take a whole lot of people right with him to his new fire home in hell. That's the saddest part. Then to even see them giving this guy all of their money. While they move into an appartment from being former millionaires??? He's a sick man with a sick mind, and all of his followers are just as sick as he is for believing, and following after his lies.
yes he's a real joke, but so is the people who are just as sick following him. Hey why don't we all serve JP Patches the clown and paint our faces, and give him all of our money too???
See if it looks like a clown, walks like s clown, and talks like a clown..... Then it's a clown.

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