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granite
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 63.25.123.108
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone familiar with this ministry? We visited there one time, and I have known several who have been affiliated with them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Stair#Life_with_Brother_Stair
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bachman
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 162.83.236.27
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Um, granite, you DID read the site you posted, didn't you?

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On May 16, 2002, Stair was placed under arrest and charged with sexual misconduct towards several underage members of his commune. Among the allegations that emerged from Stair's arrest and criminal trial:

* Stair provided herbs that caused miscarriages and stillbirths to several women he had impregnated, including some that were underage.

* Stair had obtained a large collection of pornography over an Internet connection that only he was allowed to use.

* Married couples were forbidden from having sex unless approved by Stair

Stair spent over two months in prison as part of a plea bargain to settle the charges. His following and ability to purchase airtime have decreased following the embarrassing allegations, and his troubles with the law have continued.

* In 2004, Stair pled guilty to charges of assault and battery after fondling two female members of his organization.

* The following year, police responded to a 9-1-1 call placed by Stair's wife Theresa who stated that her husband was locking her in a room and preventing her from using the toilet. Brother Stair could be heard screaming in the background before forcibly hanging up the phone. No charges were filed as a result of this incident.

* As of 2005, Stair faced a civil suit filed by several ex-followers seeking over $177,000 in damages.

Acknowledging some of his failings, while denying some of the charges pressed against him, Stair has pleaded for forgiveness on his show, but most of his religious teachings and beliefs remain unchanged.
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arron
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Post Number: 3213
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.119.203.34
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i am fom sc but i have never heard of this man or his group but if anyone had told me not to have sex with my wife unless they apporved it.. why i would have told them they were a fool and that GOD had said have so i would have it with my wife of course.
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granite
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Username: granite

Post Number: 178
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 63.25.15.247
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

bachman -- Yes I did read it. My wife & I were more or less just snooping around down there. Before I knew any of the above, I had listened to his fearless, fervent holiness preaching on the radio on and off for like 15 years and learned a lot, like the Sabbath, the truth about the pagan holidays, and other things which influenced me as a young Christian. He was also the first Pentecostal preacher I came across who refused to identify with either the trinitarians or the "Jesus Only" people, which was a refreshing approach. He also advocated community living, beards, and mixed races in the church, all of which I believe are elusive but Scriptural ideals.

Because of some questionable predictions he had made, I always kept him at arm's length and could not bring myself to support the ministry. But it did arouse enough curiosity to peek in when we passed through the area. It's just scary. But in spite of the devilish deeds and other cultic nonsense from an unaccountable minister, yet I was still strongly impressed that the Lord is at work among those people in a unique and striking way. God is not done with those folks who yet remain, and after Stair is out of the picture I will look forward to hearing good reports.
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yaqakallah
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Post Number: 222
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 68.110.28.40
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Granite,

I believe I have the answers in which you seek. I know some of the former members and are in contact with them. I am also in personal contact with their Pastor by private email. I know where they live, they have a radio program now, a website and a support group for former members and anyone who is Sabbatarian.They also have a new name. They are few but they feel YHVH calling them to form a community, but we Sabby's are few and scattered and and they need help in getting the word out so they can form.

Things may have changed since I last spoke to the Pastor, but I am expecting to hear from him any day.

I would be happy to share all the information with you. They are wonderful people. If you are interested please email me at:

kimberlymfredrick@yahoo.com.

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