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witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 1:36 pm: | 
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Do we as saints truly know it?
Here are some signs:
People practice witchcraft in the church as thoughtlessly as they do in everyday life. It is an abomination to God when it is practiced in any arena, but more especially when we practice it among one another in the family of God.
Jesus is the head of His body, the called-out-ones. The Holy Spirit is His administrator. Those who follow Jesus are obedient to His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit establishes the Kingdom of God. It can never be established by the hand of self-strength and the practice of witchcraft.
The flesh nature of man is controlling and manipulative--thus, it engages in the practice of witchcraft. When what you have is headed by man (or woman), it will always be under the rule of witchcraft--men building their own kingdoms under the pretext of being the Kingdom of God.
1.When men assume headship over Christ's body and people submit to that false headship, the flesh rather than the Spirit of Jesus is operating. The fact that such terms as ambition, impatience, competition, success, promotion, contention, contrariness, argumentativeness, divisiveness, and unyieldedness are commonplace among those who rule the churches and abide in them is evidence enough that they are operating in the flesh.
The flesh nature of man is controlling and manipulative
2. Self-seeking people who rule the churches are typically fueled by the need to increase themselves in power, position, riches, and domination.
3.They bind people to their own laws and phony doctrines.
4. They build their identities around their names, positions, clerical collars, titles, denominations, traditions, doctrines, and heritage.
5. Some of those self-seeking people who rule the churches may be insecure control addicts who need to maintain a sense of order in their lives to feel safe.
6.Of all of these ways in which we practice witchcraft in the churches--self-aggrandizement, hidden agendas, appeals for money, rage, flattery, possessiveness, hype, performance, and false assurance of salvation--legalism is by far the more cunning enemy to the body of Christ.
They usually use suspicion and turn people against each other. They like to condemn and promote strife. They twist scriptures and flasely accuse others. They like to control who talks to whom and what they say.
They haven't have some form of power however it is not power that sets people free but points away from Jesus and his headship and onto themselves. They do not recognize the New Covenant but prefer the death of the Old Testament. God's Word is used to bring death rather than life. Of course the devil knows Scripture better than anyone.
They stop the flow of the Spirit by attacking any type of true ministry among teh saints or prayer.
Wherever they are operating there is a sense of heaviness and oppression. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 610
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 9:35 pm: |
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That is is so true.
Thanks witness |
no_no
Junior Member
Username: no_no
Post Number: 33
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 4:47 am: |
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There are people in ministry who have soulish witchcraft active on a regular basis or "their own will" being angrily and desperately prayed.
It isn't just the people who are angry with or disapproving of a ministry who have this problem.
If Carman was praying for someone to "give up", and he concentrated and focused and was fueled by a victim or control mentality, he could send oppressions to a person or persons to "give up" and it would rest on their other areas of living even on life, on their talent and so on.
He would have to ask *God* if that was the correct thing to pray. You can be heavily oppressed by a blanket of sadness or demotivation when someone is trying to control you through prayer and get their will done. His prayers or Vada's ill will or judgments on the parts of those who are incredibly self righteous can truly send an oppression or bondage and hinderances. God won't allow that forever.
Its understandable why he might pray that about some people but he would have to be very and exceptionally responsibly, careful and hear from God first before he set in motion some demons or witchcraft towards those he wishes to control in some way.
Also, it really isn't very kosher that he or someone is allowing comments that are purely positive about the Champion movie on MySpace. The reason why is because there are some things in the making and the movie that are not godly. I won't re-hash some of the moral questions and facts of married actress issues and more so, however being in the position I am and knowing so much about film and the professionals involved that movie has real and genuine spiritual problems. It was clearly distinct that Carman was attracted or had a crush as others have mentioned previously. If he would edit the movie and take out the kissing and some other scenes then it could possibly cease being such a clear bad example.
If Carman is actually called by God to do films then he would need to be especially careful to not do what the world calls okay. I think its cheap that he is trying to defend and to revamp the film on MySpace. A true review and opinion must contain both sides, and many reflections.
There were many people who were sincerely outraged by aspects of that production.
Shame on you Carman and your MySpace jockeys.
You could have made such a ministerial film if ego and morality were in a different position.
Don't you love the Body of Jesus Christ enough to change that picture before you ever allow it to be re-broadcast? Would Jan spend the money, which she assuredly can and has, to edit and to discard old copies and replace them world wide?
Do you love the Lord enough to do that? Have you repented for what is wrong in the film and in your heart? If you have repented, why are you defending yourself on MySpace? Let some of the people who were offended speak freely there. That would be more honest and Christian.
Do you admit that there was "anything" wrong in the movie? Does the Bible say to not even eat meat in front of someone if it offends them?
How much do those kind of things exist or matter in your life chippy? NO, not how much you say they do, how much they really do.
*You talk and sing a very big walk, but something...is not gelling.
"Do nothing out of vain and selfish ambition."
"Love does not seek its own..." |
kookie77777
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Username: kookie77777
Post Number: 92
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 68.0.79.87
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 9:05 am: |
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HOW CAN WE MISS U WHEN U WON'T GO AWAY |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 634
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 11:46 am: |
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Thanks KOOKIE you said it.
No_No go AWAY! You are a waisting good space here on FN, and make the rest of sick and tired of your vomit!
If you have nothing good to say then get lost!
By the way KOOKIE that really was funny! Thanks for making me laugh.
You put it all in one line that says it all. This poster is a mess. |
witness4god
Member
Username: witness4god
Post Number: 76
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 12:47 pm: |
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Hi No-no,
I responded to you on another thread, but I am going to aks you some sincere questions okay?
1. You said " There are people in ministry who have soulish witchcraft active on a regular basis or "their own will" being angrily and desperately prayed."
Do you have concrete proof of this? Or is this what you believe? Did someone tell you this?
Secondly ,I wanted to say as Believers we experience much buffeting and oppression but the blood of Jesus protects and buffets such things.
2. You were talking about the movie. Well as far as it goes carman lost all creative control over that. I recently experinced this. Our intention was to bring the gospel city-wide through a video. Unfortunately, our church had ulterior motives. They only wanted to use it to get a few more dead bodies into the building. I had to go through a million committees to get it approved. The pastor wanted to edit it and cut it down. So in short, something which was a pure desire ended up lifeless because a lot of dirty selfish hands got in the way. Did I have wrong intentions? NO! But they did.
3. As far as being in the church system, it isn't easy to serve God as there are always worldly and selfish demands placed on you.
People want to control the gifts of God for selfish game and expect you to work their magic formulas. Its better just to serve the Lord and trust Him to bless the fruit of your hands.
Well that is how I see it and what i have experienced.
Lastly, with the desire to corrupt and destroy what is good. I have seen many a good ministry or person surrounded by people, or witches who wanted to discredit or bring them down.
Satan will use sleight of Hand to place suspicion on certain people while others escape blameless.
and Lastly, It is only by focussing an dliving out Jesus that anyone truly comes to the Lord.
regardless of what who did what or didn't it is what Jesus did that will accomplish salvation and change. So keep your eyes on Him.
Peace
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