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40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1769
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 172.191.169.80
| | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 9:13 am: | 
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Look guys everyone here is family kind of. Blood, covenant relationships. Whether true or not we are not going away. So my proposal is send someone out to talk and answer questions. This Justyn fellow is not going to cut it though.
Sure you can set ground rules like Philip R cannot ask our representative more then 5 questions a month or something like that.
Come on were waiting. You got the truth?? Then show it here so all can see. If your right you will prevail if you have faith.
God Bless! |
yeahihearya
Member
Username: yeahihearya
Post Number: 76
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 69.21.232.94
| | Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 9:37 pm: |
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHA!!!!!!!*clears throat* uuckuhmmm.... as if |
philiprosenthal
Advanced Member
Username: philiprosenthal
Post Number: 702
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 198.54.202.250
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:03 am: |
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I think that would be a good idea, but I feel this person should be treated with respect - even if we disagree with him. Justyn I think was scared away by the abuse he got from some on this board. Can't expect someone to come onto the board just to have mud thrown at them. |
mcmstaff78
Advanced Member
Username: mcmstaff78
Post Number: 658
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 24.99.130.74
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 7:02 am: |
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I thought that's what they did with Jon Moseley.  |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1776
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 172.192.63.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 7:26 am: |
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 Best joke all week!  |
ginger1
Senior Member
Username: ginger1
Post Number: 1773
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 75.36.221.192
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:51 am: |
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Justyn M got what he deserved for a man pleaser. |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1785
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 172.192.63.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:03 pm: |
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What happened to Justyn, Ginger? |
ginger1
Senior Member
Username: ginger1
Post Number: 1774
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 75.36.221.192
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:07 pm: |
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Don't know. What I know is that there are people who he talk to in the Philippines and they definitely did explain to him about the abuse and cultic practice. And was also advised not to post since he is only a 3 year old christian. he does not have the experience like we do. Some people here are 10 -20 years experience with MCM. But being arrogant and naive young christian as he is he posted. So he got whooped here. |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1787
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 172.192.63.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:37 pm: |
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Justyn had a muzzle put on him. |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1788
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 65.146.35.155
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:04 am: |
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I will say this though whenever I hear someone addressed as "friend", or dear friend as in, dear friend, why do you say that? Or friend lets be reasonable about this....etc. I always think of Justyn.
We most likely won't get a rep from EN unless we can start a church that they might desire to take over.
In another way some here are like EN reps. MSI/EN members come here to get answers on why.....? |
dust
Senior Member
Username: dust
Post Number: 1128
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 68.52.214.120
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:13 am: |
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40: We most likely won't get a rep from EN unless we can start a church that they might desire to take over.
Dust:  |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1789
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 65.146.35.155
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:21 am: |
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Yeah but it is only a half joke Dust.
In the old days in MCM, maybe Lee Grady would be kind of a rep to the outside world? Today it's Jay Rogers.
I guess Lafoon would be the official rep for EN. |
anti_fascist
Intermediate Member
Username: anti_fascist
Post Number: 107
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 80.119.65.113
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 4:26 am: |
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40/40: I guess Lafoon would be the official rep for EN
Good question this. Who is ultimately in charge? Who 'covers' Lafoon?
As from official EN materials it is very difficult to understand how the pyramid fits together.
And looking at it from a NOLR point of view, they are not the only ones in this game. How much concertation is there with other NAR apostles? (if any?)
Clever scam: the money moves to the top, but if you want to attack the system, it is very difficult to proove who is really at the top...
See what I'm getting at? The Italian Mafia works like this.... |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1793
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 65.146.35.209
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 4:36 am: |
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I agree AF. I guess the board rules and votes but how do you know that really is the way it is. Ever watch the show the Sopranos? Tony a middle aged guy runs the Mafia family in New Jersey but allows his older uncle Jr. to be called the leader. A figure head. |
ginger1
Senior Member
Username: ginger1
Post Number: 1781
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 75.36.221.192
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 5:56 am: |
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A figure head. thats a good one, sort of like Rice Brookes
calls the shot while Steve Murrell is the figure head. |
ulyankee
Senior Member
Username: ulyankee
Post Number: 1330
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 130.70.157.190
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:06 am: |
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According to Jim Laffoon's A Divine Alliance,
prophets are submitted to apostles, not the other
way around. In the past it was quite clear that
Laffoon was personally submitted to Rice Broocks,
including by his own admission. Prior to that,
when he was with Campus Harvest, he was
personally submitted to Ron Lewis,
another "apostle" or "apostolic leader" in EN.
It's a bit murky now with the changes of the last
year. Laffoon's still a pastor at Bethel World
Outreach Center, so that would bring him under
Broocks' leadership/covering. However, Steve
Murrell is president of ENC. So is Laffoon
submitted to him instead? Or submitted to
different people in different situations?
I'm so confused. I'm glad to be under Jesus
Christ's covering, because He NEVER changes and
NEVER has to step down.
(Message edited by ulyankee on January 31, 2007) |
speakword2004
Senior Member
Username: speakword2004
Post Number: 1096
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 196.207.32.38
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:30 pm: |
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Amem.
I agree. Jim is just a messenger boy, hachet man, Mr Fixit and ambassador of crack plastering. |
dust
Senior Member
Username: dust
Post Number: 1131
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 68.52.214.120
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:44 pm: |
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I would say Jim Lafoon is submitted to the evil spirit that rules Every Nation. And, he is in charge of propaganda control.
When the people are leaving, his prophecies revolve around their destiny and he may even pick a few sharpies out of the crowd, blow up their egos and maximize their influence.
When the name needs changed, Lafoon will get a word,
When a position needs changed, Lafoon will get a word.
I don't think any of these men are submitted to each other, but to the spirit that drives this thing. |
yeahihearya
Member
Username: yeahihearya
Post Number: 79
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 69.130.98.245
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 5:38 pm: |
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I think they are submitted to their own pride |
anti_fascist
Intermediate Member
Username: anti_fascist
Post Number: 111
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 80.119.65.113
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:06 pm: |
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They submit to the Antichrist, the spirit that drives EN |
the_west_here_i_come
Junior Member
Username: the_west_here_i_come
Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2005
Posted From: 128.186.152.123
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 7:17 pm: |
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I agree with anti fascist. The spirit of the anti christ is inside thier church. In fact, some of these leaders are antichrists. |
ginger1
Senior Member
Username: ginger1
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 75.36.221.192
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 7:45 pm: |
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It looked like Jim lafoon is losing his edge.
He is ineffective and unproductive. People are still leaving.
2 Peter 1: 5
5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
7and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love.
8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9BUT IF ANYONE DOES NOT HAVE THEM HE IS NEARSIGHTED AND BLIND, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
And it does look like people are waking up that Jim Lafoon is Nearsighted and BLIND, that his false prophesies are NOT WORKING ANY LONGER.
IT is very clear that they never pursue Godly things. |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1815
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 17.184.103.245
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 1:19 pm: |
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Ulyankee said: It's a bit murky now with the changes of the last
year. Laffoon's still a pastor at Bethel World
Outreach Center, so that would bring him under
Broocks' leadership/covering. However, Steve
Murrell is president of ENC. So is Laffoon
submitted to him instead? Or submitted to
different people in different situations?
I'm so confused. I'm glad to be under Jesus
Christ's covering, because He NEVER changes and
NEVER has to step down.
40/40: Here is the thing I find kind of confusing about the prophets being in submission to the apostles. If you are a prophet and you hear a message from God what happens if the apostle covering him disagrees with the word? I don't get it, back in old testament times was Elijah under the covering of anyone. Could a high priest pull rank on Elijah? I don't think so. How do they legislate something like this?
One thing that has always bugged me about this thing why are the "prophets" not calling for reform? |
dust
Senior Member
Username: dust
Post Number: 1162
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 68.52.214.120
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 1:38 pm: |
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40, it's the PERFECT set up.
The LEADER MAN controlls the FORTUNE TELLER man and thus, controls the FUTURE and the FORTUNE. |
40days40years
Senior Member
Username: 40days40years
Post Number: 1817
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 17.184.103.245
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 2:04 pm: |
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$$$$$$$$$$$ put it in my Mercedes trunk please.
The whole prophecy thing??? The thing that is confusing is that many posters here who do not believe in the office of the prophet also say that they have gotten legit words from God. So is'nt that kind of confirming God is speaking? I occasionly think about that one. |
mcmstaff78
Advanced Member
Username: mcmstaff78
Post Number: 681
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 24.99.130.74
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 7:07 pm: |
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40, I think its like the guy who gets some "legitimate" insight or direction from a psychic. Human beings have a tendency to latch on to what was agree with, or what strikes a harmonious chord in us, and forget all the times stuff "missed it". Some guy gives 10 "words" and 2 of them pan out - whatever that might mean. Well, anyone can get lucky. And when one has trained oneself to selectively hear - you know, "discern", judge those words, i.e. screen out the obvious junk - the stuff that syncs up with our inner being becomes a "word from God". |