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witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 1:21 pm: | 
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You have spoken lies and slander becuase of your insecuirty and jealousy of heart.
You have 24 hours to retract the following statement:
W4G wants to control.... Is she from Texas? I know there is a group out of Texas who has "links" to the LA Times. This group proclaimed that they worked 24/7 to take down TBN. To be honest just referring to the LA Times openly with criticism causes me great dread because they appear to use their power to intimidate and malign Christians.
The controlling one is you: You seem to think you own this forum and every other forum and promote your false doctrine. You seem to think you are the thought police and react out insecurity and call it GOD.
Let it be known that a year ago, you contacted me via Grace and you well know what I know and yet you still slander me.
As a matter of fact the following ladies have contacted me in the past and know my heart: You, new life, winsgaglow and Grace.
I have with held my tongue from you, in your haughty and hateful heart but here recently,
you have crossed the line in condemning those that God did not. You are the acuser of the breathren placing burdens and condemnation on those God did not. That is Rachel with her mother's death and No-no but telling her it is her fault that her husband is not saved.
Hope you are no friend to Carman, you are a Liability.
You don't know all and see all, but God does.
I will expect a full retraction of what you said or you will be refuted line by line.
You are a deluded woman and a bad witness for Jesus and because of You, you place Carman in a bad light to unbelievers and those who do not know him.
What was your reason for RABBLE ROUSING???
Trying to invoke a riot agasinst for your own jealous petty heart?
You don't help the Body of Christ , you destroy it. And you use Carman's name in a spiritually defiling way.
My heart is sold out to Jesus. I follow no man because that is a slap in the face to my Lord and Saviour.
You are truly wicked in decieving these ladies and causing them to also sin against the Lord by ommission and commission.
You are condemned by your own words.
Retraction or we will all be talking to vada about a few things.
Best you swallow your pride. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 533
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 1:34 pm: |
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"And you use Carman's name in a spiritually defiling way."
w4g... I need to learn to use people's names in a spiritually defiling way, got some people on other threads that are hassling me - so you know, I'm thinking about putting a little sp. defilement on 'em and let 'em know who's boss type of thing. Let me know. |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 1:36 pm: |
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P.S.
I don't knwo why you would defend Benny Hinn, for several reasons.
Number one: it is his wickedness that caused mario's death. The great injustice is that the 200 depositions never made it to court and justice was not served.
Secondly, Mr. Hinn has very powerful and unseemly ties. he is anything but Godly. He like many of those false prophets you defend are 33 degree masons, knights templars or other occult belief systems. You can not serve two masters.
I am sure that Carman has seen and experienced much mor ethan you know by people who have used their power and positions to censure others, blackball them and destroy their ministries becaus ethey are of the darkness.
I note that Carman does not push denominationalism like you or allegiance to earthly leaders. In His altar calls are strictly about Jesus.
When My husband saw all the posts here , ESPECIALLY yours, he wanted nothing to do with carman. Thankfully he got to go and experience Carman minister.
You speak so well of judging the body of christ, but you like others have been here, are false prophets and covetous. realize that as you preach judgement according to your carnal mind that Judgement cometh to you. That is if you are a true son of daughter of the Lord He chastises, that is correct and makes the crooked ways straight.
You need to repent. You started a battle and this time my Heavenly Father will finish it. |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 1:40 pm: |
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Get a grip,
To use anyone's name in a spiritually defiling way is to use them as an excuse to do wrong.
As you well know most people are so enamored of Televangelist that want to say they are close to them or representing them. It makes them feel important in their eyes.
Kinda like people meeting a celebrity and telling everyone they are best friends and speak for them.
It's just to impress others.
Like name -dropping.
I appreciate your sarcasm..it is well wasted on me. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 534
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 1:48 pm: |
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Like when I tell people that Tiny Tim is my great uncle.. or that Tony the Tiger went to grammar school with me. I guess I never thought of it that way...
It's funny you say that tho, I was just talking with Mary Lou Retton the other day about that very thing (we were on our way to Wolfgang Puck's house for lunch with Macauley Culkin and Tea Leoni).
So I TOTALLY know what you're talking sista souljah! |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
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Next time you see Macauley ask him when his next movie will be out! I haven't heard anything from Tea either.
Do you think the dreaded Hollywood Scientologists got ahold of them?
Maybe they were flying with Copeland and the plane ran out of gas?
Regards,,mother of the future Mrs. George Clooney |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 536
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 2:16 pm: |
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Sweet! |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 440
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 3:43 pm: |
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w4g,
The death of Carman's brother was in God's hands, no ministers! The healing of a person is in God's hands, not a ministers! If you or anyone else on this "forum" wants to blame or teach others to blame a minister, then you and they are misleading others and keeping them from seeing that you and they are the ones who are lacking in what it takes to please God.
W4g your first post seems to be a threat. What do you think you are going to do to me? All your threat does is prove you are controlling. I believe it was you who were first standing with those who were accusing Carman of harming "prophets" here on factnet. As I recall at first you had been deceived by "her", but then worked to "expose" her. But me, I knew she was false, in the same way I knew to be leery of you--- God.
So now you think you are Carman's protector? And now you have your "second" witness with your husband is that it? For those who don't know she was trying to be my "second" witness but God had me to "rebuke" her claim and since then things haven't been the same between us.
What are you talking about "name dropping"? Those like no no claim their husband is a "movie critic" and those like "uncharmed", "MNP", "charles", and "inspiration" are the ones who have boasted about the ministries they are linked to, I haven't done this. And I have stated my apology on this forum to Carman's ministry back in '05, possibly due to a post by you, when you were going by algeron. I have emailed Carman's ministry and apologized to them for what I write here. So heel witness, heel!
I don't recall contacting you via grace and I do not know what you know. I have never contacted you. No no said it was "my fault" that her husband wasn't getting saved because I wasn't ministering here and/or maybe she also suggested it was the movie Carman did seven years ago that was keeping this from happening. This is controlling and maligning. Much like what you are doing with telling me that your husband was so offended by me that he didn't like Carman... What did people use as an excuse for their dislike of Carman before I posted??? Blame it on his good looks, as I recall.
About me contacting you "privately", I would like to see what was written both ways and the dates. Because, I have never spoken to you but here on factnet. I have spoken to others from here on Christianity.com, but I haven't done this since last February. I've received one email from grace2u via newlife last June or July and that was the only email and she made no mention of you. Therefore I do not know what you think I should know. But if you are saying I have contacted you, then I am concerned that someone has been pretending to be me to get info from you. Which I wouldn't put it pass some of these people to do.
Anything I have referred to you recently was what you posted last year when you kept agreeing with me and what I was posting. As I recall MNP tried to discredit what I was posting because of you... You were a hot head back then, as it would seem now. Now you say your husband was greatly offended by me and almost didn't like Carman.... Was this before or after I "rebuked" you for what you were teaching against preaching the Gospel to reach masses. You seemed to be more in agreement with redeemed4life than me. This is all that I was referring to. You do seem to try and hook your wagon up to others, hoss.... And I just didn't like letting the enemy in just because you wanted to and this angered you.
So by all means reveal what I have written to you line by line and give me the email dates and time as well. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 538
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 3:54 pm: |
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YOU rebuke ME? I rebuke YOU!!!
And my rebuking is bigger than your rebuking any day of the week AND I ate lunch with James Garner and Smith Wigglesworth... |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 441
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 4:06 pm: |
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getagrip,
"Are you talking to me......" LOL...
Seriously, did you think that I had "rebuked" you??? I wasn't.... Back when w4g was posting in the beginning there was alot of "rebuking" going on. I expressed my "disapproval" sternly against what w4g said, after all she had been "agreeing" with what I was posting and I wanted her to know without doubt that I wanted this stopped. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 541
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
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Well I rebuke that as well... I rebuke the use of quotations around "certain" words and finally I rebuke myself most severely for not returning Paul Newman's text message to me about playing Bunco tonight over Jeb Bush's place... |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 442
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 4:54 pm: |
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Okay.... |
julia
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Username: julia
Post Number: 193
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.109.161
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 6:49 pm: |
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I am going to have lunch with Jesus and the phantom is cooking, so top that! |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 585
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 7:01 pm: |
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"Let it be known that a year ago, you contacted me via Grace and you well know what I know and yet you still slander me. "
ok . . . I don't recall that either Witness but maybe I have people confused. Gee and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if people were pretending to be me.
On the otherhand, someone did ask me to try to get something the HFL but I don't know if I did or even could at that point because the communication channels were breaking down because people tried to fellowship but satan was attacking. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 586
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Therefore I do not know what you think I should know. But if you are saying I have contacted you, then I am concerned that someone has been pretending to be me to get info from you. Which I wouldn't put it pass some of these people to do.
I totally agree HFL. That thought came to my mind when I was asked if I was the same person that posted on Christian Hollywood. Not me. But God knows who it is. And that's all I need to know because it is HE that they offend when they offend His children. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 587
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Witness,
If someone has been talking to you as me within the last year or so they are pulling your leg I'm pretty sure. I would stop talking to them if I were you.
I've cut off communication with just about everyone here as of last Spring I believe - maybe May. Newlife was the last one I was communicating with I believe. Don't even have that email address active. Now when I say here I mean on these threads. I've talked to Franklin and Rachel some as well as Pdee but not even to them much lately.
Wingsaglow I talked to briefly on myspace but myspace isn't really for me. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 543
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 7:44 pm: |
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"Gee and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if people were pretending to be me"
I'm going to pretend to be you... ready?
I totally am commnicating via Wingsaglow, pulling her leg and trying to fellowship in a communicative sort of a way through Newlife's channels but the devil was attacking through his contacts like Martin Short and Joey Bishop in Christian Hollywood... |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 588
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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The death of Carman's brother was in God's hands, no ministers!
I have to agree with that. Regardless of how painful losing a loved one is to us and our families we must remember that God is in control and allows certain things for reasons that we may not fully understand.
That's the position I'm taking here. My only reason for sometimes avoiding this place is because I'm afraid that someone is going to hurt me. Well finally I realized that even if someone did that God could turn it around for His good.
Well, I guess I should go check out the SCER threads. |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 7:49 pm: |
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Hello Evil witch..
Meaning ,manipulator.
You certainly are full of yourself and no I never wanted to hitch my wagon to anyone and certainly not you. I am not impressed by you and never have been.
But you certainly are a rabid wolf twisting things. God already told me what your fiery darts would be and I am glad for things that happened in the past as much was revealed and to help others.
You are a virtual snake, dead in your religion.
Again accuser of the brethren.
It is you who uses religion and your religious mascots to make a name for yourself.
Its because you have invested you all in a lie. Your house is built on sinking sand.
What a haughty and lying spirit.
Most people who have posted about you are correct.
HOPE RETRACT YOUR STATEMENTS...
YOU ACCUSED ME OF COLLABERATING TO BRING DOWN TBN
YOU STATED THAT I was part of that and a newspaper.
YOU ARE ON THE ATTACK BECAUSE YOU LIED.
THE bottom line is GOD SAID TO TELL that your SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS STINKS LIKE A FILTHY MENSTRUAL RAG..
ADMIT YOU LIED...STOP SUBTERFUGING.
YOU ARE A LIAR. AND A JEALOUS LITTLE SHREW.
YOU ALREADY MADE AN ••• OF YOURSELF ELSEWHERE AND RAN AND HID HERE LIKE A COWARD. |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 544
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
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"It is you who uses religion and your religious mascots to make a name for yourself."
I LOVE religious mascots... I'm going to start a brand new, exciting thread!!! |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 591
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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OK Getagrip - Get a grip! 
Can you do the melodramatic me?
Unfortunately, I don't fake it. 
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Drama Queen - nah, I'm just an emotional sort. Wear my heart on my sleeve. |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 443
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 8:20 pm: |
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w4g,
You wrote this to the four posts by no no--
"witness4god
New member
Username: witness4god
Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:18 am:
Dear No-no,
I agree with what you posted one hundred percent.
Sincerely,
witness"
Are you saying that no no's posts were for TBN and not to stir up trouble?
Are you going to show what you said I wrote to you and what you say I know? |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 546
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
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Any chance of getting you two into a boxing ring somewhere? |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 595
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Come to think of it, I haven't been where I could even communicate with HFL for some time now . . . since I got off that other board. When was that?
Seems like it had to be around a year or so ago or even more. |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 445
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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getagrip,
Only if I get to see you in a boxing ring with a real boxer*, either real or pretend. Are you man enough? Now would be a good time for you to "rebuke" yourself.
*Changed this because I didn't want to use someone's name who has no part in this. |
kookie77777
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Username: kookie77777
Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 68.0.79.87
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 9:22 pm: |
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w4d(witness4devil) not for God unless u have a different god? o what is the point of what u say. does it really matter?? i sure wouldn't listen to u and neither would carman... sticks n stones...... |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
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HFL: I Hope that you quit posting your vicious and rediculous drivel, I have great Faith that you won't because you have no life and I would Love it if your computer crashed totally.
I am posting with W4G's sign on but this is not her. It is her husband. Despite what you think, W4G is one of the most spiritual people that I have ever met. She led me out of the darkness and into the light. She is extremely well versed in the Bible and is against denominations (which exist to profit themselves), charlatans on the TV which target many infirm and shut ins and she can spot a phony a mile away. She has admonished me many times about being the head of the household and to lead our house in prayer! She holds better church for our family at the supper table than most churches I have ever attended.
Now I have to ask you HFL, how can you sit there and defend TBN and the Crouch family? My God, what good they could do with the money that pours into their coffers daily sent by foolish sheep like you and yours if they only chose to. I especially love the crocodile tears that Jan sheds and I am waiting for the time that those big fake eyelashes fall onto her cheek. I must also say that there are no more prophets. There is no need for them. The final prophecy is spelled out in Revelation and whomever can predict when that will occur should get a signboard and head to the nearest busy streetcorner.
Do you not have time to really do some good work in your community? I guess not because you seem to be Chief of the Factnet police. Jesus calls us to serve which means to go out and help those in need, he calls us to minister to someone in the grocery store or the fast food line but not tear down anyone for a televangelist's sake or get so wrapped up in their religiosity that they defend an institution rather than the word.
Grip: I would love bobble heads of Paul, Jan and Benny. Can we get Benny flashing the "Hook 'em Horns" sign which nost Texas grads don't realize is one of the signs of satan?
Yes, we're from TEXAS and proud of it! |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
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W4G's husband again, Kookie, you are truly a moron!
Hey were you on 77 Sunset Strip? Ed "Kookie" Byrnes in disguise or drag? That's it, I've had my fun. Now it is off to other sites that are more spiritually rewarding than this henhouse! |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
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Hopeless stated:
Only if I get to see you in a boxing ring with a real boxer*, either real or pretend. Are you man enough?
Even if *he* weren't man enough, I am sure that *you* would be more than *man* enough for us all |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 446
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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W4G's husband,
Then was it you who agreed with no no? Was it you who wrote post #19?
Was it you who posted this to me--"HOPE RETRACT YOUR STATEMENTS...
YOU ACCUSED ME OF COLLABERATING TO BRING DOWN TBN"
Is your wife "no no"? Because you sound like the husband she described?
Just which of you has been posting. And why does it not surpise me that out of all the men W4G could marry it would be a man of your calibre. The manner in which you have used your wife to hide behind makes your behavior even more threatening and serious. How long have you done this? Is this the first time?
Getagrip,
I know you mean no harm but too many people on these threads are dangerous and then they accuse me of being a coward.... This coming from a man or from his wife who he encourages her behavior is far too serious for me to make light of it.
I ask that you go and post to those who are familiar with your humor in posting. I'm sorry I ever posted to you because I know how it feels to have people I don't agree with side with me and so a "tie" has been formed. So please accept my apologies. From most of your posts I have greatly appreciated your knowledge of the ministries such as the Copelands and John Hagee. Unlike most of the posters here I do not flit to one ministry and another. I have been blessed by the times God has led me to listen to ministers like John Hagee, Paula White, Creflo Dollar and so forth, and so it helps when God has me to post something to read what you have written explaining/defending a particular ministry that confirms the "take" I had by my limited experience with them. Therefore, just as I have apologized to Carman Ministries for using him in what I do, I also extend an apology to you. For me everything that happens on factnet is very serious and that is why "God" had me to be so "stern" before. What w4g wrote that I am a coward about writing what I write is true. I am ashamed, even though what God has me to write I know is true, I still want to run away but I only come back because of the Holy Spirit. Rather or not you can ever believe this is something I cannot worry about. All I can say is that I am trusting God. |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 447
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 10:07 pm: |
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w4g's husband,
Your post #22 is creepy. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 546
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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Hey HFL where's the ring and pass me the gloves... or better yet forget the gloves let it be a fight where anything goes. When this getagrip wimp, punk said this about me: I totally am commnicating via Wingsaglow, pulling her leg and trying to fellowship in a communicative sort of a way through Newlife's channels but the devil was attacking through his contacts like Martin Short and Joey Bishop in Christian Hollywood...
This shows me a fake who lets the devil use them for his glory. They show their true colors by trying to call it fellowship in a communicative sort of a way. There in shows the true colors and lies. You can't call your lies as pulling my leg. Why don't you use the real words for your life.
Liar, Fake, and a chicken just like the devil who always sneaks in the back doors under a hidden agenda to try to obtain information.
You will not ever get it from me Saton.
The devil lives for being a deciever among the sheep, and this getagrip is already up to the thighs in the sheep dip.
You can smell a deciever a mile away, because they just plain and simply stink like the sewer they live in daily.
getgrip........ getalife |
getagrip
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Username: getagrip
Post Number: 547
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 72.77.188.86
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Wingsaglow...
It is true, I am a Liar, Fake, and a chicken (not neccessarily in that order, sometimes I am Chicken who is a fake liar or a lying fake chicken depends on color of my mood ring, been doing tai chi or eating only nuts and berries on the special grizzly diet I am on so just depends).
Real reason I'm writing is to get some spiritual defilement or discernment of what "sheep dip" is.
Thank you, carry on with your noble and much needed debate! |
hope_faith_and_love
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Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 448
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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w4g,
You promised you were going to reveal what you said I had told you privately. So where is it? If you are telling the truth then I want to see what you have so I can see if I can figure out who was behind this. This is a reasonable request. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 547
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:22 pm: |
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No I'll let carry on with your noble and much needed debate! You are the one that feels so above all others with your spiritual defilement, and stench.
As for chicken you got that right, because if you saw me right to my face your whole tune would change. I'd be right in your face with all of your filth and lies. That's why you're still hiding behind a fake name to match your fake life.
As for you being spiritual it's not with the light, but of the devil who is the deciever of many, but not me. I'll crush his head and anyone elses who serves him, and God has not given me the spirit of fear, but of a sound mind, and I'm ready for the battle just like King David.
God can put me right in the battle to fight fakes like you, and to wipe out demons that try to pose as being Holy. Where their really good for nothing.
When you pick a fight don't bother trying to intimidate others who are still soft with God's love, but take on a woman who knows how to fight back and will not run you wimp.
To just talk the tough talk here makes me want to beg you to meet me in a ring. Then I'd beat the chicken right out of you.
I have no time for wimps, but for strong people who can fight not just with words, but in person.
So keep on being a chicken you wimp and when you changed the order as being a chicken first you got it right.
As for others here many are nice people and I like them. I may not agree with many but I still like them, but when I find a fake their deleted asap.
I can't stand fakes, and wimps and you fit into both. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 548
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:27 pm: |
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And you know where to stick your Christian Hollywood message to me too. |
kookie77777
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Username: kookie77777
Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 68.0.79.87
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:35 pm: |
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lol |
witness4god
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Username: witness4god
Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 70.120.179.79
| | Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 12:23 am: |
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One more time Hope--
You started this by attacking me and bringing me into posts which were NONE of your business.
Now you attack my husband??
Idiot.Moron. Read the ISP.
I just love twisted snake how you manipulate.
My husband is a wonderful person who has taken care of sick people all of his life including his last wife who was paralyzed and had head injuries and then cancer. He has spent his life helping people out of bondage to drugs and alcohol and served his church and community well. He feeds the homeless, as well as sponsoring orphans.
The world populations is 6 billion plus and everyone has an opinion. If you don't like that Jump the planet..hop a spaceship and get raptured out.
You are of those spoken of: who persecute the real saints and kick them out of church THINKING they are doing God a favor.
When you see Jesus he will tell you: depart from me for I knew you not.
But Lord did I not prophesy in your name and do works??
That is you.
You have zeal. religious, but none for the Lord or no compassion for those who are different or oppressed.
You hate me because I do not bow down to you.
When you have nail- scarred hands and lived a perfect life, and died for all mankind, then you are worthy to judge me and my heart.
Can you count my tears or prayers?
You can not.
You are of your father the devil the liar, who was a murderer from the beginning.
You have hate and that is murder.
Your only desire has to keep me from fellowshipping or speaking of the Lord and HIS goodness and His ways.
Your new name is GOD-DESS..for you truly wish to take the place of the Lord in everyone's lives.
I will not fight with you anymore.
You are beyond hope-
I hope that you have a true salvation experience. |
hope_faith_and_love
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Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 449
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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w4g,
The more you describe your husband and the more I have witnessed of him, he could very well be part of this group that I mentioned in the post that riled you both up so..... Is this what you believed someone had told me??? |
kookie77777
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Username: kookie77777
Post Number: 77
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 68.0.79.87
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You are of your father the devil the liar, who was a murderer from the beginning.
You have hate and that is murder.
Idiot.Moron. Read the ISP.
You are beyond hope-
You hate me because I do not bow down to you.
When you have nail- scarred hands and lived a perfect life, and died for all mankind, then you are worthy to judge me and my heart.
THE bottom line is GOD SAID TO TELL that your SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS STINKS LIKE A FILTHY MENSTRUAL RAG.. you have crossed the line in condemning those that God did not.
dribble drible who are u witness 4 the devil?? huh??? who do u think u are??
ur words trap u!! |
arron
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Username: arron
Post Number: 3149
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 66.169.14.8
| | Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 6:03 pm: |
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kook what about you you just called and said the same things a bout them |
bachman
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Username: bachman
Post Number: 98
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 162.83.245.221
| | Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 7:34 pm: |
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PLEASE everyone -- Carman is SO 5-minutes-ago.com
Everyone is now posting furiously at my NEW TOPIC:
"Your Worst Church Experience--Let's Hear About It!"
Join me now-- Carman is posting as we speak, so you can meet him, and Ken and Gloria are flying over, and Joyce and Dave will be there at 10 PM and hopefully Paula and Randy will make it -- she's bringing the first fruit to snack on!
Here's the link:
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/27910.html?1168729867 |
hope_faith_and_love
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Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 450
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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Arron,
The question is would kookie ever say anything like this to anyone who wasn't first harming someone else and she's trying to make them stop and hopefully keep them from injuring innocent people.
As for me, this is my purpose for posting here. Since you come from other threads on factnet, you may bring up what I have posted to Rachel because many believed what I posted was in error.... but, by their posts they have revealed the error has been with them why God didn't move. If they will not understand their error in this, then perhaps those whose faith is hindered by what they do will understand. In Matthew 11:22-25 Jesus said, "'Have faith in God,' Jesus answered,'I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, "Go, throw yourself into the sea," and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours. And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.'" Many times when Jesus healed someone, He forgave their sins demonstrating how sin can be attributed to a state of unhealth. Not always. The fact that Christians argue heatedly over healing is a sign that something is wrong with our faith as a body. Many who argue against ministries would rather Jesus' teachings appear false than to ever look at themselves and see that they lack faith and to understand. So many fight against anyone God sends to try and teach them.
W4g and her husband are not setting those who are sick or in poverty free, because their faith is used to keep people in sickness and poverty because they use these people to accuse ministries with-- and the world supports them. In their faith they do not doubt in their hearts what they believe and Jesus promised that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. But, unlike ministers who are of God, God is in control and this means God's will is done and not ours. But this is not true in what those like w4g are doing. They would rather people remain captives of Satan in order to use these people to accuse ministries. This is how they adulterate the power of Jesus' words to set people free-- but because this is what they believe in their hearts and speak, they have forged a supernatural weapons to accuse and deceive people with and to stir up emotions of people to sway people to hate these ministries. Their heart is against these ministries, and they use their "testimony" of helping the poor and sick to accuse those Jesus said that if they put the kingdom of heaven first then He would give them whatever they might have gotten if they did like others and worked for themselves. Once again they want to deceive people from believing God's words and deny the proof of God. Paul worked to be an example not for ministers, but for the body of believers so they would not be a burden to the church! Why, because God knew that this is what those like the W4Gs would use to harm and deceive believers. W4G and her husband's faith are not in God, but in themselves. And because they are not controlled by the Holy Spirit, so whatever is in their heart and they believe and do not doubt happens. Satan's power comes from God. And so these like w4g and those they keep in bondage reveal how this power works.
But, God said that those like w4g and her husband have tried to bar up the door He has opened, but by His word He said what He opened no one can shut! And those responsible for trying to bar the way, will be removed! |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 624
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
| | Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 6:37 pm: |
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Perhaps this email was the email that I sent (probably one of the last ones) in which I tried to encourage Witness4God. I think perhaps I even posted some of it here. In my mind that was more than a year ago but . . . I really couldn't say.
But please know that HFL did not tell me to send that to you nor did she influence me in writing that information (that I am aware of). What I do recall is that HFL said something like a comment that would indicate that God told her that I was telling you something encouraging or vice versa (Watch the conversation . . . something like that). I did not gather that she had the exact information but it really struck me as odd that after I pressed the send button to you I came back here and she was mentioning that we were communicating.
All I know is that I did not have access to her to even tell her that. I affirm before you, Christ and everyone here that HFL had to know I was communicating a message to you from another source (I'm assuming God) and not by any conversation that I had with her. Strange I know. I thought it was curious too but hey . . . I feel like I have on rare occasion heard the voice of God so I just said ok.
And even if for some bizarre reason you think that she could have been monitoring my computer activities. Her post was up so quickly after I pressed the send button that this could not explain what happened. I have to say that it was somewhat miraculous or an example of divine intervention. |
no_no
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Username: no_no
Post Number: 28
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
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HopeFaithLove (the three things missing from this person's mind and heart), is probably a man and goes to a church that is in Aneheim that meets in an old theater building.
He tells everyone what to do, where to go, and types in King James red letter to make her un-named, and un-identified personage feel like the one true Bible source on this blog. He has Grace controlled, most of the "fans" tricked and engaged through anger and a nearly blasphemous use of verses, and when not shedding the blood of others, sets up the reader to pity him so that some air of control can be aquired. How can he, dare to throw the stones that Mercy Me describes,(lables)at W4God's husband's work?
When threatened by a new face that you can't fool, pull all the punches and slander hard and long? You are a truly dark person and your use of verses is witchcraft and mind control or intimidation tactics.
What good, what love, what accuracy or life changing, heart converting types truth is in his (HopeFaithLove) methods or motives?
Doctors wound to heal and thugs with ego problems wound to just, wound. This kind of anger and rejection is just sickness.
Why does he care if Wingsaglow lets people know that Carman is dating someone? What is the permission or the relationship that he imagines that he has with Carman to rise up in castigations? He might be more focused on his own love life and his own spiritual condition instead of trying to run Carman's life anonymously on this blog.
If a certain group of women think that he is doing the right thing and that what his involvement is, is really of the Lord, $50,000.00 says it isn't.
Pray for God's perfect will to come to pass for all of the right reasons and pray humbly.
Like I said in the very first post, can't LOVE be the most evident outcome or fruit and most permanent thing that happens here?
**********Equal, impartial, CHRIST-tian love, practiced on purpose, putting God first LOVE!?!**********
I think this is a good place to avoid this blog and to trust God to release His grace and goodness and correction.
Pray for Carman who seems to be listening to someone famous, but not to God directly.
(That does not mean you HopeFaithLove.) |
no_no
Junior Member
Username: no_no
Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
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HopeFaithLove (the three things missing from this person's mind and heart), is probably a man and goes to a church that is in Anaheim that meets in an old theater building.
He tells everyone what to do, where to go, and types in King James red letter to make her un-named, and un-identified personage feel like the one true Bible source on this blog. He has Grace controlled, most of the "fans" tricked and engaged through anger and a nearly blasphemous use of verses, and when not shedding the blood of others, sets up the reader to pity him so that some air of control can be aquired. How can he, dare to throw the stones that Mercy Me describes,(lables)at W4God's husband's work?
When threatened by a new face that you can't fool, pull all the punches and slander hard and long? You are a truly dark person and your use of verses is witchcraft and mind control or intimidation tactics.
What good, what love, what accuracy or life changing, heart converting types truth is in his (HopeFaithLove) methods or motives?
Doctors wound to heal and thugs with ego problems wound to just, wound. This kind of anger and rejection is just sickness.
Why does he care if Wingsaglow lets people know that Carman is dating someone? What is the permission or the relationship that he imagines that he has with Carman to rise up in castigations? He might be more focused on his own love life and his own spiritual condition instead of trying to run Carman's life anonymously on this blog.
If a certain group of women think that he is doing the right thing and that what his involvement is, is really of the Lord, $50,000.00 says it isn't.
Pray for God's perfect will to come to pass for all of the right reasons about Carman and anyone else you typically send hate to and pray humbly.
Like I said in the very first post, can't LOVE be the most evident outcome or fruit and most permanent thing that happens here?
**********Equal, impartial, CHRIST-tian love, practiced on purpose, putting God first LOVE!?!**********
I think this is a good place to avoid this blog and to trust God to release His grace and goodness and correction.
Pray for Carman who seems to be listening to someone famous, but not to God directly.
(That does not mean you HopeFaithLove.)
People may be too anxious to marry him off, and if the packaging and image is right, but the Lord isn't speaking because He isn't be sought after with a pure and a whole heart. He might not be right for the "young woman", she may have a very different destiny.
Would it be more holy and more accurate to honor God... above anyone's feelings, or dreams or plans? Is it possible for God to victimize or short change someone? Is faith and destiny a reason to marry or desperation, loneliness and the well wishes of others?
False peace/real peace? Is this a vain ambition and a course to make Carman look less like a failure or emotionally off in any way that others may think that he is? Is the relationship based on God's voice and his plans or the inner motivation to not be so weird compared to others in his thinking. So that would be vanity and fear not true love and a calling.
If Carman does not hear from God personally,(many of you say so) and only looks for circumstantial indications or bases things on inspiration only or his own desires and imagination, he really is not playing with a full deck.
God's voice, God's love, God's heart, God's plans, God knows what will happen in five years regardless of how things look now? |
no_no
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Username: no_no
Post Number: 30
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
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Trust in the Lord, with all of your heart and he shall bring it to pass.
Seek first the Kingdom of God, and *his* righteousness then...
My sheep know my voice, and they follow me.
(Jesus) |
julia
Intermediate Member
Username: julia
Post Number: 198
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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True, if this rumour is true and she is anointed (no matter how talented she be in worldly terms), then I am happy, if she is only pretty and talented, I would not be happy, in fact sad, why you say? Because he is a brother and I would like to see him in the Lord and not be just attracted by fleeting beauty, but to have the everlasting in being with One in Him. |
julia
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Username: julia
Post Number: 199
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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Gifts and talents of the world are not as talents and gifts of the Lord, in fact they are completely different, sometimes it seems people think that gifts or talents in worldly terms are the same as the ones in the bible, this is not true, talents in the bible refer to faith, the substance of faith which is in your soul and kept by His Spirit. This has nothing to do with whether you can do backflips or not, sometimes it is nice to show off, but sometimes you can fall on your head and hurt yourself too. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 637
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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I would like the talent of having complete faith in God. I'm not sure why I struggle with it. I remember having the dream where I was on this treasure hunt and won and I believe this (now that I am a little more mature) refers to the Kingdom of God. At least that is what the treasure was. Maybe my problem is that I'm trying to keep faith instead of letting the Holy Spirit do this work in me. It gets so confusing and I keep falling down. I have fallen down today even.
It is true that we are to know God's voice and follow after it but sometimes we just get this wait on the Lord message.
No no, I don't disagree with your post of trusting and having faith but I should mention that you are combining verses in Psalms with verses in Proverbs. In Proverbs God tells us he will direct our paths so while indeed He does bring it to pass, oftentimes he directs our paths so that this happens.
I did appreciate that particular post reminding us about faith and trust. Thank you. |
julia
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Username: julia
Post Number: 200
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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That is the best gift to want because no matter how good you looking you are or how well you can shake your booty,or even how well you can fight that is not gonna get you in heaven,that is not gonna please God, only faith will.
You can ask God to give you more faith and He will, but it is also up to you to have faith. When you can see the end result of something and work towards it, that is faith, when you ignore all discouragement and still work towards your vision that is faith. Our hope is in the resurrection, so if you can see that and work your salvation towards that is what Christianity is all about. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 641
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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You know, I think people here think that I'm some little weak thing and that I don't have gifts. Well the truth is I have lots of gifts some I have even laid down so others could move toward what they feel is their destiny. It's complicated. But at the time I felt that God called me to do that and I did it and I did wind up in somewhat of a dark place because of it but I guess Joseph in the Bible could say the same thing.
I can do a lot of things well but that doesn't always really satisfy my heart. What people don't realize is I do have more letters after my name than Mr. C. probably has in his last name. I do teach college. I can sing, etc. but none of this really brings me joy accept when it is used to help others but still . . . I don't feel that I'm in the right place and I feel certain that I'm being pulled toward someplace but feel discouragement that I will get to this place. And maybe, ultimately, in God's plan it is not about me getting somewhere except to get to a place that lifts those that follow after me to move forward. I don't know.
Franklin tells me not to rush my gifts. But good grief - I feel so close and yet so far.
Well . . . I know this is not about me and I'm silly for going on and on.
But still when I get around Christian ministry - I feel slapped down over and over again. Now maybe this is God orchestrating this so I have to depend completely on Him but it is frustrating me to death!!!
I tried to give a simple blessing to one ministry and I find that it doesn't seem to be accepted. Is this God's doing some how or is there a problem with the ministry? It could be satan causing this but . . .
I try to learn from another ministry to find that I can't get a response from them to a simple email or really a simple phone call.
What is going on in the spiritual? It is starting to hurt my feelings. Should I not try to reach out to other Christians?
(Message edited by Grace2u on January 20, 2007) |
julia
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Username: julia
Post Number: 201
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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When you act out of love, that is the greatest and the fruits therein will last. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 643
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Are you suggesting that I'm not? Feel free to answer from the heart. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 575
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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Thank you Julia, what you said is true, and also grace if a ministry won't accept your gifts then take them to those who will. So many doors stay shut, but there are still many that are open.
There are many who are poor and in need of encouragement. So we can be God's hands extended to help these people.
Don't feel hurt grace by those who don't need your gifts. There are many who need what God has given you. When you seek you will find them and when you knock that door will be opened into a wonderful blessing just waiting for you to enter.
Be encouraged grace2u.Don't let anyone ever slap you down either. After you've turned the other cheek then rise up against the enemy and knock em out.
God bless you
Wingsy |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 644
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Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Julia,
I worked with opera which was very hard to do where I lived. I gave that up because I loved God and felt that I was suppose to do that so that something else could take place. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 646
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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LOL Wings . . . oh they will accept my gifts . . . it just didn't seem that they would accept my blessing but I could have the wrong perception concerning this so let's drop it.
On the other . . . I was just trying to order something and with this ministry, I never know if I'm going to receive something or not. It is hit and miss. And then I call to try to take care of the situation or email and I better not hold my breath for a response. And this is a ministry in which I really have appreciated and learned from the message.
HFL, please don't take this as me attacking either ministry. It's just frustrating and it is things like this that make people leary about ministries, etc. They want to trust but others tell you not to trust and then they receive responses or no responses like this. ??? |
julia
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Username: julia
Post Number: 202
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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"Are you suggesting that I'm not? Feel free to answer from the heart."
Not at all, just saying. Only God knows what is in your heart, and of course much of what is in your heart comes out in your words, as you know, and what I hear from your words you are earnestly seeking the truth I was not making any judgment,but Sharing my ideals and my understanding of faith and walk with God.
"I worked with opera which was very hard to do where I lived. I gave that up because I loved God and felt that I was suppose to do that so that something else could take place."
What? You gave that up because it was not in line with God? I don't understand??? I find it a great thing to get all instruments and voices to worship God!
(Message edited by julia on January 20, 2007) |
mercy_me
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Username: mercy_me
Post Number: 108
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 206.228.128.9
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Grace;
I do not think for a minute that you posses a character of weakness. I understand what you are going through. God has placed dreams and visions in my heart given me gifts and talents with such a desire to be using them right now and I am still not using them. For so many years they just seem to be dead ends frustration from all my peers that should be helping me to attain my goals. But this is what I am learning...
Each day surrender everything you have to God lay it all down. Just take one day at a time. The next day you get up surrender all again and again and again and open up your hands and release everything to him.
Picture yourself at the feet of Jesus. Picture laying all your gifts at his feet. Lay your hurt feelings lay everything down at his feet. Get on your hands and knees and cry out to God and lay it all down. And every time satan brings things up again get back down on your hands and knees and lay them down however long it takes and this will get it off of your mind. Everything you feel that you think you should be doing right now because of the gifts God has given you, the desires and visions and dreams of what you should be doing and place it over in God's hands. Then God will show up in a mighty way and you will just know that you know what you are to do. And it may be a year or two from now until you see any fruit but then again it might not. And what is even better he will start putting things together for you just listen and trust and obey and don't analyze just walk in it and trust God with your future, your dreams your gifts and your talents. I think Franklin has a good point on not rushing or pushing things to make it happen. That does cause frustration.
And then when you have totally surrendered your dreams God will bring people to you and things will happen that you could have never done on your own. I am telling you it is truly awesome.
Have you ever done a fast? Jentzen Franklin is teaching on the Daniel Fast. To know God's voice to seek his will to learn how to let go and let God... It is really good. We all have areas that we hold on to and a lot of times we don't realize it. But this helps you to learn how to let go and to see into the supernatural. I am really enjoying his studies...
I know everything I have said you know but sometimes we just need our friends to remind us...
Well I have Got to go!
God Bless
M&M |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 648
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Julia,
I sing but when I was working in opera it was in the marketing public relations side. But it did allow me to touch the field alot. My voice is more of a lyric voice which is not always good for opera (sometimes but often not).
God moved my location and I abandoned this field to get a masters in something that I knew I could make money at . . . and by doing this help another ministry. Now I'll admit, sometimes I like to spend some of that money but it does help my family.
The funny thing is recently, honestly since my contact and friendship with Franklin, I heard (yes I know - I'm weird about hearing voices) that I was to be a librettist. That was odd. It had never occurred to me. My first degree is in music not literature. It may have just been my own voice who knows. But I have no clue how one becomes a librettist. LOL!
It just may have been something I ate. |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 649
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Mercy Me,
No I don't fast because, among other things, I had hypoglycemia but that was in college and maybe I should try it again.
Great points.
Yes, I know these things but the frustration is so LOUD. I do appreciate you sharing them!
God Bless, |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 650
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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Yea, FN is acting weird and I've been on here way too long today!
Of course the librettist thing could have resulted from Franklin telling me over and over again that I was a writer, I was a writer and then working my rear off this Fall when I was kinda playing at the time.
Maybe I should just get serious. |
mercy_me
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Username: mercy_me
Post Number: 111
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 206.228.128.9
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I am like you Grace, I have hypoglycemia also. But the Daniel Fast is eating fruits and vegetables nuts, seeds, oats etc. No meats, breads or sugars. Any way go to his sight and it tells you what you can eat..
I seem to be having a stttttuuuuutttering problem in here today. I keep putting my posts up 2 or 3 times......
God Bless
M&M |
grace2u
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 652
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
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It's factnet - Thanks Mercy Me.
Julia,
I don't want to indicate that there are not lyrics (sopranos) out there but they usually play the very young parts. I did at one time and some people can do it for a career but my personality type that I mentioned (INFJ) is more of a behind the scenes type - although writing is behind the scenes and I might like it.
God Bless, |
julia
Intermediate Member
Username: julia
Post Number: 203
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 61.68.186.52
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Soprano is nice, does that mean you have to be in the front? I am a stiletto, I think? I dunno what it's called all these names get me confused, and a librettist, well never heard that word before! I know I am one of those too, but mostly I know I am a leader, I have a gift to lead people, not sure if it leading them with stiletto or what, perhaps I should take up blowing the trumpet or something lol! I am sure God will make it all clear to me in due time.
Just finished my book and, just waiting now for the right people to read it, I know it's way better than that guy who wrote a book which was made into a film who has no ears, no hard feelings chop chop, you sure can tell a tale lol! |
julia
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If you have a librettist gift, then you should use it, if it glorifies God then it is work which will last, and I heard Creflo say one day that television, is meant for the people of God to be telling their vision, I like that, it is also a great way to fight the prince of the power of the air, praise God I have ears that not only hold my sun glasses up but which hear as well!
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grace2u
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I can't believe I'm back here but I'm on the Internet because I'm working on a paper.
Your post made me laugh so hard!!!! I'm not big into shoes but I thought stiletto's were high heels.
I didn't have to stand in front generally even though I was short. I usually was put in the back because my voice carried. But I did make All-State in high school so I don't think that that they put me on the back road because I was terrible. LOL!
Oh, there are plenty of opera roles for lyrics but I really did fall for art song at first. Later in life, I really began to love opera more and more.
A librettist is just someone that writes words for an opera and some what a poet. Some composers write their own librettos. I have to tell you that lately I have been in awe of the work Nicholas Wright. At least his work with the Little Prince.
For example:
Look at the sky
Look up above
In hope that your Prince appears.
All that you've learned of life and love
Is ringing joyfully in your ears.
Listen to how the bells resound.
The music will calm your fears.
What you have lost
And what you have found
Will guide you through the years.
Every sound
Every chime
Mends the heart.
Makes it whole.
Starlight bells
Deep as wells
Reach through time
To heal the soul.
I want to be Nicholas Wright when I grow up. Is it too late? Can I be a Grandma Moses of sorts?
Every time I read or hear the libretto specifically this part I am where I need to be.
What is your book about? |
grace2u
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I think that's why God brought Franklin in my life. I was a bit leary of him at first but it's kinda funny and this might sound strange but it's almost like there is a mantle passing between us (at least from my perspective) with the writing.
I felt this somewhat early on but still I have always been more reserved than he is so I was cautious.
That's why I defend him even when we have disagreed. He's just a man anyway. |
julia
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My book is about my unfortunate life, and what a wild life it was, but in it I speak about a lot of the visions I had and then there is also my deliverance and conversion as well as some of my criminal ventures, the disappearance of my husband in the underworld etc etc.
I focus mainly on my calling from God, but I also speak candidly about everything else, seeing the audience I am targeting are the unconverted there is also a lot of the exciting escapades I have been involved in, including getting shot by police (they missed) and escaping police custody, getting stabbed and all the other stuff that has happened in my life. And, my conversion and the triumph of my spirit in the victorious battle I had with the powers of darkness and how Jesus came in and kicked all their butts.
So with it, I hope to reach some unconverted souls for Christ.
That is a nice poem or libretto you wrote. Hey if I could sing good, I would be be right up there singing my heart out for Jesus, but I am not a tremendous singer.
Dancing, yeah I can dance, even in the ring, I can dance, but no one will let me fight, my age won't allow it, even though I kick the young butts in there. Plus I got some people who care for me who have told the guys not to let me fight.
I have been through rough times, to meet me, you wouldn't know it, people usually mistake me for a police officer or a lawyer, also I have had a good upbringing and that helps. |
grace2u
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It's pointless rushing destiny.
It's much better having faith.
It's pointless to wish
You were in another's place.
So when you find yourself pursuing
Much like Christ with His bride.
Seek for a virtuous woman.
Don't let your heart divide.
It's pointless rushing destiny.
It's much better having faith.
It's pointless to wish
You were in another's place.
Don't covet what one has
Like David and Uriah's lamb;
Much better to have faith
God pleads reproach from Nabal's hand.
Never anger over another
Trying to do God's will-
Who's shoes you could be wearing
Pray God's will those shoes would fill.
So when you wear those shoes
When the season comes
You will have done to you
As you indeed have done.
Then let your actions be a blessing
And many blessings you will receive
To every thing there is a season,
So don't let any woman deceive.
Bide your time and wait for God
His blessings to you bring.
When you get discouraged
Praises to God you shall sing.
I pray for you your destiny
But in God's time not yours.
For if you try to rush destiny
You'll find your eyes forget the Lord.
I pray for you a bride
Clothed as the Bride of Christ.
Who's faith in God abounds
And who knows eternal life.
(I wrote the above for my son.) |
julia
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That is very nice, may you be blessed in your ventures in writing and may they glorify Christ. |
grace2u
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Oh I would love to take credit for the first but that is Nicholas Wright's work!
Your book sounds interesting and exciting. I can imagine that it can indeed witness for Christ!
Take care and God Bless my friend! |
julia
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Yes, thank you, God willing! May Our Lord belss you too! |
julia
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BTW, a police badge doesn't mean you are a good guy, I have met many bad guy police, perhaps my husband was killed by a police, I don't know (my daughter is re -opening the investigation, brave girl!), I have had many bad dealings with police where they have taken my money and it is my word against theirs. And also other dealings which I will not mention here. Now I train with many police, boxing and close quarter combat, still haven't met a police woman who will go toe to toe with me in the ring, but hey perhaps the day will come and I will be surprised. But I do know some that are good guys and that is a good thing, I would've liked to be a police officer, but I missed the calling, and I can't be a body guard because of my record, I can still protect the weaker though.even if I don't get paid for it. |
julia
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I strongly suspect Warren Lanfranci ( big time drug dealer or loser, whatever you choose to call him) was killed by Roger Rogerson (a police officer), even if it is Neddy Smith doing time for his murder and that of Sally ann Huckstep. Many of these guys get on tjhe take and when there is money involved even murder happens. |
grace2u
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Well never mind about Franklin. I love him as a Christian but we can't seem to get along either. Get's that's the way it goes. |
franklin
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No it is not the way it goes. Why don't you try? Why don't you try to communicate? |
grace2u
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Dad gum it - I've got to get into church!!!
I do communicate. You don't listen. Or you just make an assumption without looking at things to see if something could be presented from a different point of view than yours.
Do yourself a favor and read about my personality type and then maybe you will get it:
Google it "INFJ" - I can't think or be like you ok? It bothers me when I try and fail and then get deleted because you don't see yourself the way I am seeing you. |
franklin
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There is only ONE personality type we should all be striving to be and can be. That is the "JESUS" personality type.
That is why God sent him here for other reasons. To get us out of being ourselves and to try and be more like HIM. |
grace2u
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God made us all unique. What I am saying does not go against the your post #4838. I try to understand the various perspectives that Christians present and understand where they are coming from because I know they haven't seen Christ face to face. That doesn't mean that they are not striving to be like Christ. It means I appreciate that God did create them uniquely.
I apologize if I expect the same from others. |
franklin
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The world would be a boring place if we were all alike. What the personality of Christ teaches us is to try to get along and understand one another peaceably with tolerance and yet without compromising God's truth. |
grace2u
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Yes and you just told me not to be so sensitive and that's the worst thing you can tell someone like myself because when you do that you are telling me I can't be myself. |
grace2u
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It does not help to have people tell me, "Oh, just stop being so sensitive." To tell an INFJ not to be sensitive is to ask them to murder themselves. Out of our sensitivity comes wonderful things. But our sensitivity needs to be protected.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/14OCU0YFC7861
That's ok . . . I'll just not participate. This is exactly what happened last time. |
grace2u
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I will only keep logged in elsewhere so this discussion can be held in private. |
grace2u
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I want to state that I do not endorse everything on the page cited above. I'm just referring to the statement quoted. |
julia
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Not sure how I started talking about some of the injustices in the world, nor what they have to do with this thread, I do know vengeance belongs to God and He will repay the wicked. And I also know I am not the only one addressing stuff here that has nothing whatsoever to do with Carman or his ministry. |
grace2u
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Yes Julia . . . we are so off topic. LOL! My issue is that I live in a world where I am in the minority big time. I spend my whole working life adjusting to others way of viewing the world etc. But this is my private life. It's not that I can't take direction from others but in my private life, I can at least expect that they take the time to understand that I think differently - whether I end up being right or wrong. At least why I do a certain thing before they make a judgment.
I guess I'm asking for too much. It's not that I want to be right; it's that I want people to understand where my point of view is coming from and just accept me as Christ does.
Life is very frustrating for people like me. Many - like Emily Dickinson - just withdraw.
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grace2u
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OK - I communicated with you Franklin. I left you a pm. |
witness4god
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And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the [women] that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive [that come] unto you?
Eze 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear [your] lies?
Eze 13:20 ¶ Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make [them] fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, [even] the souls that ye hunt to make [them] fly.
Eze 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.
Eze 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
Eze 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD. |
hope_faith_and_love
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w4g,
The scripture applies to you. You are the one who was deceived! You are the one who disheartened the righteous with your lies, when God had brought them no grief. This is why you first came. Back then you used scripture to intimidate with... only to come back and tell me how wrong you were.... but now you have returned to your old ways. You've even brought your husband in.
witness4god
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:12 am:
DEAR HOPE FAITH AND LOVE
I have watched your posts the last few days and I will tell you that I know and the Lord knows and we testify that they have all been true to the smallest detail.
Many are they who have been caught in the snare of the fowler, and we must forgive the victims for who knows what truths they have witnessed.
Perhaps it is time for the spell to be broken and the many to go free.
Please rely on the wisdom the Lord has given you and perhaps this thanksgiving He will move on your heart to do a certain thing and answer certain prayers.
"in all things give thanks unto the Lord"
Happy Thanksgiving to all,
WITNESSFORGOD}
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 1:39 pm:
A truth from God:
But God says it is nothing but another snare of the devil that these "foxes in the vines" use in your midst to remain undetected.
(Message edited by hope_faith_and love on November 23, 2005)
THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Spirit of Truth is loosed and the Light is making manifest the HIDDEN WORKS of DARKNESS and REPROVING them!"
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 7:49 pm:
Hello Evil witch..
Meaning ,manipulator.
You certainly are full of yourself and no I never wanted to hitch my wagon to anyone and certainly not you. I am not impressed by you and never have been.
But you certainly are a rabid wolf twisting things. God already told me what your fiery darts would be and I am glad for things that happened in the past as much was revealed and to help others.
You are a virtual snake, dead in your religion.
Again accuser of the brethren.
It is you who uses religion and your religious mascots to make a name for yourself.
Its because you have invested you all in a lie. Your house is built on sinking sand.
What a haughty and lying spirit.
Most people who have posted about you are correct.
HOPE RETRACT YOUR STATEMENTS...
YOU ACCUSED ME OF COLLABERATING TO BRING DOWN TBN
YOU STATED THAT I was part of that and a newspaper.
YOU ARE ON THE ATTACK BECAUSE YOU LIED.
THE bottom line is GOD SAID TO TELL that your SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS STINKS LIKE A FILTHY MENSTRUAL RAG..
ADMIT YOU LIED...STOP SUBTERFUGING.
YOU ARE A LIAR. AND A JEALOUS LITTLE SHREW.
YOU ALREADY MADE AN ••• OF YOURSELF ELSEWHERE AND RAN AND HID HERE LIKE A COWARD."
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 9:26 pm:
HFL: I Hope that you quit posting your vicious and rediculous drivel, I have great Faith that you won't because you have no life and I would Love it if your computer crashed totally.
I am posting with W4G's sign on but this is not her. It is her husband. ... |
witness4god
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Hope,
You are paranoid as can be.
Are you a witch? you act like one
I brought My husband on? No m'am he doesn't like to see evil women such as yourself, attacking innocent people.
I didn't send myself to Factnet, God did.
That is why you falsely decieve.
You have an agenda NOT of the Lord.
You must be one of the many who dabble in the occult, one way or another, that have attached yourself to Carman and the saints of God.
Is that why you are shrieking so loudly?
Raging? Losing control? What's the matter? can't see all? Know all? Is the queen of mean being dethroned?
I knew that Obessesion was a perfume by Calvin Klein but you make it a lifestyle by stalking people what's your obessession with me?
What's the matter..your familiar spirits aren't telling you everything? Must be frustrating!!! |
grace2u
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I wish you could have all participated with me in a seminar about value judging etc. this weekend. I learned that when you value judge you are bringing judgment on yourself. Been there - done that - going to try not to do that again. |
grace2u
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http://logosresourcepages.org/Believers/judging.htm |
witness4god
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Hi Grace,
I think that you have a sweet heart and a kindness about you.
However with all due respect, God does resist the proud, but draws close to the broken and contrite.
I don't think the awesome an dloving God that I serve would allow someone such as HFL to continue to gnash on the saints, LIE, and desire to have pre-eminence over the saints.
God is NOT speaking to this woman. God does not bring condemnation on the saints,nor tell people who to fellowship with.
A true saint will point people to JESUS alone and not desire that people follow them.
Everyone wants the power but not the broken-ness. I like my people real...who show me their scars with all lowliness.
I certainly hope that HFL will listen to you but prideful never do.
Tell me, is there one person here that HFL hasn't attacked?
Point taken? |
witness4god
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Grace-
read the link, thanks! But very sure I am in the guidelines. Thanks for your concern.
I find nothing wordly about what was said...it's too bad others have such a distorted veiw but I am not responsible for their skewed perceptions. I think self-righteous is the most loathesome sin... SO is covetting what is not yours or causing strife or LYING.
Apparently SOME people feel free to judge without considering that God will judge them by the same METE( measure). But then again I am not a vain insecure woman who hides behind the NAME of the LORD in a cowardice way.
But for anyone's future edification, God has not nor will ever send a haughty arrogant person to correct me. Yet one who is meek and contrite.
For the prideful they usually ended up broken on the floor.
Amazing how God never shows HFL the truth about my walk and faith and heart. Nor anyone else's. |
grace2u
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Apparently SOME people feel free to judge without considering that God will judge them by the same METE( measure).
Oh I suspect that many have been there at one point or another.
I know I have.
I know some people think that I spend time with those that they probably think that I shouldn't but I'm just going to love them for caring about me. I agree with what HFL posted about David saying he hasn't done this and he hasn't done that (although if we look at his history we know that he is not above sin himself). I suppose we are judged (by man) by the company we keep but the problem is - I look around and God tells me that everyone is a sinner. So if I find someone who has an interest similar to mine and if they love the Lord and are trying, I'm willing to try to accept them as the Lord does. I've tried changing some of them in the past and I've learned that this is only a job that the Holy Spirit can do - in them and in me. |
cybermom
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Amen, grace.
witness
God has not nor will ever send a haughty arrogant person to correct me. Yet one who is meek and contrite.
I agree with most of what you say, but not with this part of your post. It's been my experience that ANYONE can speak into my life if I choose to listen. Just because they don't present the message the way we'd like doesn't mean that the message itself is not good or acceptable. I've had more than one haughty and arrogant person as an authority in my life, and I found that I can learn much about myself from them. People don't have to have it all together to be able to speak truth to us. And since NO ONE has it all together, who then CAN? I'd never receive correction or exhortation at all if I only chose those who were OK by my standards.
Just my opinion. |
grace2u
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I tend to agree with cybermom on this one.
On another topic, I've been thinking to myself today why are we all spending our time here instead of doing something else? Fellowship is good but for the most part fellowship on Factnet is not all that edifying.
Then I looked at the question of the day and I'm thinking this is one treadmill that I would like to fall off. I feel like a gerbil in a cage going round and round.  |
