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     clara New member Username: clara Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 88.101.154.117 |
My 22yr old sister has recently moved into a TT community. I've only just found out and I'm really worried about her losing herself. I am also quite shocked, because until now, she did quite a bit of what TT seems to be against (although, perhaps that's why?). She was independent in her thinking and inclined towards feminism and anarchism more than religious dogma. We haven't seen her for a few months and communication with her is difficult. She's hardly ever answering text mesages or emails and what she writes sounds like if coming from someone else. She has just given us a landline number but at the same time said that she wil give up her mobile and an email account and use the communal ones. Please, anyone with any insights into what she might be going through or any ideas, help. if you have any suggestion of how to support her and help her to see what is really going on, I would really appreciate it. All I can think of now is perhaps to remind her to stick to the word of Christ and to check what she's taught with the Scripture, but is that gonna be enough? I fear that anything more direct might cuase more damage than good. | ||
| fullofquestions Junior Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
What is TT? | ||
| fullofquestions Junior Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
It does not sound good. | ||
| bluewater2 Senior Member Username: bluewater2 Post Number: 2458 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.75.252.89 |
TT stands for Twelve Tribes. They are just another one of man christian sects that argue with other christians about the TRUE meaning of the bible scriptures. All christian groups are cults of varying degrees. | ||
| franklin Senior Member Username: franklin Post Number: 4799 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 76.4.117.127 |
All atheist groups are cults of varying degrees. | ||
| bluewater2 Senior Member Username: bluewater2 Post Number: 2459 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.75.252.89 |
What does that have to do with twelve tribes? | ||
| yaqakallah Junior Member Username: yaqakallah Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 68.110.28.40 |
Clara, I am no expert on the TT but I do have some experience with Ex-TTer's (once engaged to one) and have gained a ton of knowledsge in just a few short months from many who were with and still in the TT(in person and online). My advice to you is to pray and be patcient with your sis. She is withdrawing from you now because she is being 'love bombed'. That means that right now the TT (most with pure hearts) are convincing her that she is one of the few and chosen from God himself and sent to the TT for his will. They love her even more when she reveals her ungodly side as she has now been approved by the great God above, for membership in the TT, and to not fully submiit to their teachings, instructions, way of life etc. then they are telling her that she is going against God's will and , well, literally damned as the rest of us heathen not 'chosen' by God' to belong to the TT. As you well know, this is mind-control and easy to reinforce in the right situations.We do it everyday by saying, 'would you like fries with that?'...LOL. You catch my drift. Listed below is a link to a recovery place for ex-cult members. They have strong ties with ex-TTer's. Maybe Bob Pardon(the owner) can direct you in the right path as to how to deal with your sis now. The good news is most people leave cults and never return. The bad news is some can't get enough and never leave or go from cult to cult to comune to comune. I've probably said too much. There are many here who can give you inside, honest adivce. Stay strong! Kim http://www.meadowhaven.org/index.htm | ||
| fullofquestions Intermediate Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 165 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
Clara, Any news on your sister? | ||
| dream_truth Senior Member Username: dream_truth Post Number: 1345 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 72.224.168.31 |
Clara, If you can, try and maintain whatever contact you can with your sister. If you can go to her and visit, that is good. Try your best not to outwardly show your objections to their way of life, because right now your sister needs a reason to stay in contact with you, show just show her love and support. If you try to hard to object to their lifestylye, they will likely convince her to break off all ties with you. It is important that you maintain contact with her so that when she starts to doubt and question her surroundings, when the lovebombing stops and turns against her, then will be the time she will need to feel that it is safe to turn to you for help. Peace ~ DT | ||
| szimhart New member Username: szimhart Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 208.101.162.137 |
You can contact me privately jszimhart@dejazzd.com if you wish. Might be better if we talk--I am one of the exit counselors listed as a Factnet resource. http://home.dejazzd.com/jszimhart Kind regards, Joe | ||
| oceanwaves New member Username: oceanwaves Post Number: 7 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 151.204.236.204 |
I'm not putting down anyone, but this is known to be a dangerous group. First check out websites that suggest what to do if a loved one joins a high demand group. You could also speak to someone who does interventions.try googling the subject. Here are some websites (I don't endorse them but they could provide helpful info) http://www.rickross.com/groups/tribes.html ------------------- http://www.twelvetribes.com/ This is their own webisite......be careful as it is basically an advertisement for them. I only include it here so you can see what they say about themselves ----------------- http://www.americanreligion.org/cultwtch/index.html ------------------ http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010905-15.html ----------------- http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010905-17.html -------------------- http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 ----------------------- | ||
| oceanwaves New member Username: oceanwaves Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 151.204.236.204 |
Continuation of my post... I think you have a very good reason to be concerned about your sister, unfortunately. I wouldn't just rush in and say anything...but I would first study on how to reach a loved one in a cult (high demand group). Keep the lines of communication open so your sister has somewhere to leave. Don't call the group a "cult". Usually they recommend trying to get the loved one to visit for socialization, then presenting them with info about the group, cults in general, mind control, and how such groups work..........and it's often best to have an intervention there with someone who knows how to prepare it ahead of time, so when your loved one visits, they are there.......It has to be approached carefully. The cults train people that anyone who criticizes them is "persecuting". Also see Steve Hasaan's site (he was with the Moonies and got out and has a good site called "Freedom of Mind" or something). http://www.religionnewsblog.com/category/twelve-tribes/ This is an archive of articles on Twelve T. -------------- Apologetics is a Christian site, but has some good anti-cult info on various groups......here are some articles from it (even though the site is Christian, the articles posted include those from regular news sources too) http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010905-16.html -------------------- http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010408-02.html -------------------- http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010907-02.html ================= http://www.rickross.com/groups/tribes.html I already listed this one......This is a secular (non religous) site and has some helpful info. This is the articles gathered on the group. Also has a lot of info on cults in general. | ||
| oceanwaves New member Username: oceanwaves Post Number: 9 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 151.204.236.204 |
http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/books/rtb1.htm http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/books/rtb2.htm Sample online chapters of Steve Hassan's book "Releasing the Bonds" (anti cult) From a non religious viewpoint ----------------- http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/t/tribes/tribes_letter_globe.htm Letter to Boston newspaper regarding Twelve Tribes and a restaurant they were operating ------------- http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/t/tribes/ Info from Steve Hassan's site about Twelve Tribes. Apparantly he considers it a dangerous group as it is one of the ones listed. | ||
| oceanwaves New member Username: oceanwaves Post Number: 10 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 151.204.236.204 |
http://www.twelvetribes-ex.org/ THIS Is a site by ex-members of Twelve Tribes! They may be able to help you help your sister! | ||
| voocitd Member Username: voocitd Post Number: 80 Registered: 1-2008 Posted From: 98.193.216.235 |
Here is another Website dedicated to educating people about this dangerous religious Group: http://yattt.blogspot.com/ Stands for Yoneq and the Twelve Tribes. It contains a consolidated view of a great deal of information from the internet and personal experiences/articles concerning the TT |
