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     wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 536 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
No no_no we'll just leave all of that fleshly connections to him and his name for you. See we as in us other ladies are not talking or even mentioning his name in all of our post, because we're talking to each other, but it's only when fruitcakes like you show up. Then La ya ta ding bat da there he is again in every one your post. You are the Jezebell here with the influence of demons, cult thinking or witchcraft of any type. You are also exalting and puffed up, and aggressive, with false authorities. When you attack Grace like you have then it proves your real spirit. Hey no_no get a life and leave the man alone already you wanna be fruitcake. As for me and many of the other ladies here. Unlike you we're married and very happy with our partners, but I will come here when you show your ugly face to others like grace2u. She was talking to us and not even about your wanna be fantasy with Carman in your bed. GEESH! have you ever checked into a brain ER so they can check the air waves up there? Man what a fruit with worms in it. Your seeds are all wrinkled up with nasty rotten flesh no_no. Leave grace2u alone if you want to pick a fight with some one then pick it with me an officer who knows how to fight back you little fruitcake wimp, but unlike you I fight in my training with real men, and not crying females they never last in the training. Have you ever felt the burn from really being tested. No I thought not you'd curl up and cry like all of the other cry babies. Just like you are right here when some else comes back at you. I was the only woman who was in my group of guys and they cried more than I did when we took the mace in the face. Yeah what a burn, and the other woman couldn't take the combat.Many can though and I did make it through with 100% flying colors, and a badge to go with it. I am proud when it comes to making it and not ever giving up. So when you want to try and belittle other woman here and sound tough... That shows me that in real life you're just like the other females that didn't make it through you're a cry baby. Your a wimp fruitcake and you're only tough in here with your words, but in real life your a cry baby, and I'm tough, because it's my job you little punk. (More below) | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 537 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
So boo, hoo no_no I wouldn't even pick you up either with your rotten fleshly skin. Not unless you said that you'r sorry to graceu and others here. That also shows a real adult and not a cry baby wimp. When you go after other woman here that you feel you can be over them.... Then I'm here to face you punk! but see no_no I can fight with you so if you want to go there then by all means pick on me I like it. I'm a woman who knows how to handle a little wimp like you, and in battle I always get it straightened out fruitcake. This convo isn't even about carman you lost in space world fruitcake where your minds not even working right. no_no what grace2u was talking about was about herself with other woman here who was encouraging her here you nut case. She was talking to other woman here and not to you or about your fantasy Carman. So grow up and take off your diaper you'r showing your rash, and you stink. You're such a lost rotten fruit that's lost it's beauty a long time ago. So come on baby bring it on you piece of work. Or are you still a chicken with no back bone? Yeah yer a chicken. I also know many new faces from here, because I've checked over each person on myspace, and then here to see what's being said. Then that's how I can put every ugly face to every ugly message that matches here. Trust me I now know many posters here by face, and real friends who are, and not fakes. That's also why you go after other ladies here, because in real life your a winp you fruitcake. So come after me babe and we'll get it on like we before. Did ya miss me fruitcake? | ||
| no_no Junior Member Username: no_no Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.130.100.144 |
Wingsaglow, You have real problems. But you are covered with prayer in your church we hope. Does your publisher know that you have such instabilities and venom? How many hate statements can you cram into one post? Mature aren't you and non violent. Your words: "You piece of work. You punk, rotten fruit who has lost its beauty"??? You are a frightening person for someone who claims to minister to children, who does not use any substances that alter your mind or behavior and who also pretends to be so sweet and kind. Glad I could bring this out of you, for the public to see what you are really like.  Is this the way that Jesus taught you to respond or to relate as a born again believer in his ways or kingdom, to others? You may consider; 1. therapies and anti-psychotic drugs for your temper and duality. 2. a good year of uninterrupted Sunday School at a functioning-safe church. 3. working very hard to bear the Fruit of the Holy Spirit. which in your case will take fasting on a regular basis. You are so tough and strong, I am so afraid. Please don't corner me or punch me, find me on MySpace, (sorry unlike you in your immense immaturity and empty life I don't walk on or over the people...( or should I more accurately say, "work" over the people and 'work' the streets like you) and the 'streets' of MySpace. And please don't say anymore nasty, mean, things to little, frightened me. You are a body builder and you scare me!!! Just please don't sit on me  ! You are assuredly deceiving others, and obviously deceiving yourself. Does Vada know that you think and talk with such vitrole and ill will? No way, juvenile hick bully. That was awful wasn't it? I couldn't resist after making the huge mistake of reading your entire post. Where is your racey MySpace photo now? That you totally defended without the smallest incidence of conscience or holiness. Because you are so deep and spiritually sound and all, you will be able to forgive me for calling you names. You would never do that yourself so I humbly seek your forgiveness for my bad example. I promise, I will not make that mistake again. I am referring to: Reading your insanity and sin and then watching you report on how you are such the kids minister and the close friend of Carman's office manager. Does your daughter have your vicious nature and hides it as well as you do, as she will model your actions and attitudes? I hope Carman didn't read that post. I hope more so that he didn't like it. I know Jesus wouldn't. I know my husband who is out of town this weekend, would have a field day against born-again Christians, if he saw you write a kiddie-angel book and then have at it, like this just because you can't make one poster succomb to your witchcraft and facade. Love and Goodbye and no...I did not miss you. How did you know my last name? "Winp Fruitcake Nut Case." You are strong in the spiritual gifts aren't you? You did provide a hearty laugh for all of us here tonight. And proof of the character and spirit of the real Darlene Grimmett. I will have to "find a way" to love you and bless you because that is what my Jesus demands. He can demand anything He would like to and I will do my best to accomodate and worship him. Are you going to bless me or curse me now and later? I am so concerned too. Have you ever heard of the youth movement, since you are making some money off of young souls, called WWJD? Think on that for a couple of days and maybe you will get it. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 603 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Yeah I got it no_no but you never will with your fake name and your fake life. keep trying and keep failing. Here's the answer to your WWJD too. The phrase "What would Jesus do?" (often abbreviated to WWJD) became popular in the United States in the 1990s as a personal motto for thousands of Christians who used the phrase as a reminder of their belief that Jesus is the supreme model for morality, and to act in a manner of which Jesus would approve. The initialism WWJD is sometimes also used by Christians to mean "Walk with Jesus daily". Keep being fake and ah by the way didn't you see the date that the above was posted? yeah I thought so. See ya in another long time again no name | ||
| kookie77777 Member Username: kookie77777 Post Number: 85 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 68.0.79.87 |
lol..good bye?? u just can't stand the heat!! can u no no nut!! u cannot dispute what we say... the responses we give to u no no nut convict u.. spend time on ur knees nono.. and maybe then we can talk. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 680 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Well I'm not going to try to get into this. I know what it is like to reap what I've sown. I think I'll try to avoid the next crisis. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 605 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
KOOOKIE!!!!! My long lost picnic friend. I even started a special picnic place just for us who love lots of laughs. Come on over I've already finished the sides off on witness's cabin. They tasted really good, and I was hungry. I left some furniture though so stop on by and we'll really have a party there. I mean hey we may be saved, but we aint dead know what I mean? Be blessed grace2u you are a sweetheart, and when others attack you its like attacking any of my friends. I'm not afraid of putting them in their place. Have a wonderful day. Still wingin it wingsy (+: | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 682 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I once placed a quote by Eleanor Roosevelt and was rebuked because the individual did not feel like Eleanor was a godly woman. Well, first - only God can make that judgment. And God's truths DO ring through [come out of the mouths of] imperfect people. I am only made perfect through Christ as anyone else is only made perfect in Christ. With that said - I repeat this truth that has been spoken regardless of the fact that an imperfect person spoke it: No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. Eleanor Roosevelt, 'This Is My Story,' 1937 US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) You can insert "attack" if you would like. And I feel no shame or concern for speaking these words. Anyway, I do think it is sweet you want to do that for me. I'm just sharing that I have learned what it is like to reap what you have sown and I have to think that this judgment is probably the best thing that ever happened to me. All things work for good for those that love the Lord.  God Bless You! And No No - I love you. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.97.46.163 |
This chick no_no is probably Oksana, either that or another flake. Some of his fans are beyond insane, I don't even know where to start on this one. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 736 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Possibly but we still are called to love the individual. Even if I disagree with no no - which I do. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
No_no....I'm not gonna read all the trash you spew out of your foul little mouth. Shut the hell up. I've got no one to impress so I can pretty much speak my mind. All I hear coming out of your •••• is BLAH BLAH BLAH. Shut up already u f'n moron. You whine more then a 13 yr. old after getting her first period. BOO HOO, run away, before I chase you away... | ||
| valkyrie333 Member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.10.4.22 |
Are you the same alexisd that posted pornographic pictures on Carman's myspace? | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
hahaha...does it matter a-hole? And pornagraphic pictures I suppose you mean my picture from myspace? Who cares??????? haha, no one, you loser. And no..I didn't post porn on his myspace, check your facts better. He had a million different people on his myspace, I was only one of them. It's cute how you think you're putting me in my place, shut the hell up, you're boring me... yawn. Next please! | ||
| valkyrie333 Member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 53 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.10.115.21 |
Obviously you're not a Christian. I went to your myspace and they were porno. | ||
| valkyrie333 Member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 54 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.10.115.21 |
IF you are truly a fan of Carman's, you should respect him and not post pictures that would embarrass him. Others blame him for your pictures. Boo hoo I am so hurt by your comments......NOT! | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 23 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
First off...Valkyrie...by your own statement, neither are you Have fun burning in hell. I'll see you there. Yep, I'm into porn BIGTIME, it's my job, and I never once claimed to be a Christian, unlike half of you here. You all claim to love God soooo much, yet you sit here and judge me, and Carman and everyone else. I think this is a blast actually playing with you fruitcakes. If you reall were concerned for my soul like a REAL Christian (Which I already proved that you weren't) then you would email me and try and talk to me like a human. Also...my pictures never embarassed Carman, not in the least bit. He's an ACTUAL Christian (Again, unlike you) and if he felt I was exposing too much, he let me know. No biggie, and soemtimes I would purposly put up a nasty picture just to lure you fruitcakes to me. I loved all the flakey emails I recieved from people JUST LIKE you...made my day, every time. So, thanks for the laughs, and trust me, there was great laughing had by quite a few. So...good 'christian', judge your own life, instead of judging mine. I might be rolling around in trash, but so are you. At least I'm not lukewarm. I'm cold and God prefers me to be cold instead of lukewarm. I can't wait until God pukes you out of his mouth for being so 'middle-of-the-road. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 24 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
oh...and I'm sure your flaky-••• has been aware of my myspace since the very first time I posted on Carman's site, most people obsessed with Carman knew immediatly about me. Funny, how you can all just sit there, make up fake myspace's to email me in secret, just to get information about Carman from me. What a joke. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 837 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Well alex, I for one have no clue who you are or what your myspace page is so I'll have to just try to talk to you like a human here. Besides - myspace is too time consuming (so is Factnet come to think of it). But you have a point about the lukewarm bit. Still I think most Christians desire not to be lukewarm . . . we are just human though. It is only through Christ that there is any good found in us. Have a good evening Alex. Grace | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 839 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Alex, I was just thinking - when you feel that people are attacking or judging you because of your involvement with porn - please consider that they may be doing this out of pain. I can personally vouch that porn has had a negative effect on my life. I'm not saying this to judge you but just to give you a perspective of why people "may" react the way that they do. My first husband had a significant enough problem with this and as a result I felt (and have had to work through) the feeling of a lack of self esteem. Additionally, I have had to try to erase what he and even a parent of mine (but only because instead of "talking to me" about sex they put a pornographic magazine under my mattress)put in my head. Still - there is plenty of guilt to go around. The problem is that people really often do try to act out on such an obsession that porn can create (and even though there "may" be women that "may" be obsessed with Carman - there are probably a lot more people obsessed with porn). An obsession with porn can lead a person to track someone down, hold a gun to another person's head and attempt to rape them. Ask me how I know this? I didn't read it in a book. I personally experienced this. And as a result of this and some other life experiences - I am a bit on the paranoid side. But I've decided who can blame me. What would REALLY be wrong was if I wasn't. So I am too cautious and have a very difficult time trusting people. Franklin can attest to this. I've second guessed many things that he has said. I'm letting God work in these areas of my life and letting Him heal me. Porn creates a view of sex that takes away from what it was meant originally. Again, none of this is directed at you. You are just a sinner like the rest of us. The only difference between you and me or those who are legitimately Christians is that we are saved by grace. When God sees us - he doesn't see our sin. He sees Christ's sacrifice. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
Thank you Grace2u...I appreciate your Christian-like approach. We are all guilty of sinning, and I see that you have gone through much pain yourself. I understand your pain. The reason I am even on this site is because I befriended Carman on myspace, and as soon as some of his fans saw me on there, they attacked me from every direction. I beat them all off with no problem, but they came in droves, some even creating fake myspace's to talk to me. Carman was there for people like me, you know? He was never ashamed of me, and if my pictures were a little too much, he just simply let me know in a fatherly way, then we laughed it off. He never once put down my job, a true christian would attempt to lead me away from the lifestyle I choose, yet too many 'christians' attacked me for it, which angered me. So...grace...cheers hun I appreciate you as a true person of God. Wish more people could look past my 'scarlet letter' like Carman, God, you and a few others have. I know that if Jesus was walking on this earth right now, he would be hanging with me, and loving me like a good father would | ||
| valkyrie333 Member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 55 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 70.146.57.254 |
Actually I found out about your site from reading in here. I don't care what you do. I know you are smart enough to realize that what you are doing is offensive to most people, and have enough sense to not to post those pictures on a Christian website. Just one more case of someone trying to make Carman look bad. And if you aren't trying to cause trouble, why did you feel the need to hack into my myspace website and email me? You're victim act doesn't wash. Just another demonic attack on a man of God. Grace2U aren't you Cincodemayo that usta post? I've enjoyed your posts in the past, but be careful how you engage this one......something is seriously wrong here. Not everyone is as open and honest as you. (Message edited by valkyrie333 on April 07, 2007) | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 844 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Valkyrie, Thank you for your kind post and concern toward me. I understand where you are coming from but I'm at this point in my life where I refuse to live it in a paranoid manner any more. Even if something is seriously wrong then the only thing I can do is leave it to God. At least for the most part. I am only responsible for my actions. | ||
| alexisd Junior Member Username: alexisd Post Number: 26 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
Oh brother Valkyrie....give me a break. It's kind've funny about how you claim I tried to hack your myspace and yahoo, lol. You know what God says about liars right? Thought so. End of discussion, I simply emailed you, and nothing more. But it's cool...God will deal with you in His time. Don't care...we both know the truth, and so does God. Anyway, Carman was there for people like me, and other fans, not for obsessed people such as yourself. How long did you watch my comments to Carman? I actually never posted nude pictures, as if Carman would allow it, Give me a break. Oh..and I never claimed to be a victim, I was simply having a nice conversation with grace2u. You're nothing more then a sugar-coated, wannabe Christian. I'm a daughter of God, Valkrie, just as you are. We are God's CHILDREN, and we can keep fighting on this blog, or you can just be a good little girl and start to play nice with God's other children. Saying I'm A 'Demonic attack on a Godly man' says a lot about your character. I never went after Carman, he's not my personal style, and I never attacked him in any way. I was always appropriate with him, just as he was with me. You're wayyyy wrong about this whole situation. Oh..and your myspace was easy to find, it doesn't take someone smart to figure out you probably use the same handle there as you do here. duh... So...Guess what? God loves me very much. I don't need anyone's approval. So...think about that tonight...I AM GODS DAUGHTER AND HE LOVES ME TOO | ||
| alexisd Junior Member Username: alexisd Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
Oh...and Carman had his comments as 'approve' or 'not approve' It was his choice to approve my comments or not. Besides, I wasn't the only woman in porn to post comments, so don't put all this on me. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 656 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.203.71 |
Hey my friend Alexis it's so good to see you. yes and who would have stopped the hooker from washing Jesus feet? Jesus said yes she could come near him and wash his feet, and ya all know why? He was not a finger pointer in judging her for her sin. No he showed her the love that comes from the real heart of God. To him even though her life style may have been sinful he won her by the love in his heart for us all. Would you who judge this woman cast the first stone? Would you also turn her away from washing Jesus feet? Who without sin would cast the first stone at her? Not me I will go about my fathers will and love her. So my dear friend welcome to my site anytime. Where you will not be judged, but recieved in love. May God bless you, and I don't care what your picture is. I care about your inner soul and not your outer shell. It is only the house that you live in, and on my door it is always open with a welcome mat. Blessings Wingsy I had left here for a long time, but when I saw your post here. I just had to jump in and I love you in Christ. Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 847 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
valkyrie, Interesting music on your myspace valkyrie. Reminds me of retro European experimental 80's type of music. You and wings actually have a lot more in common than you may think with your angel type handles. Sorry to give you a hard time early on with the Valkyrie thing. Honestly, the only time I had heard your name before this was in a Wagner Opera. Anyway, I googled the lyrics to the song. A lot of interesting stuff there. Of course the paranoid part of me wanted to second guess the lyrics. Curious what attracts you to this group? Very gothic from what I can tell. You are very interested in mythology aren't you. (That's not intended to be a judgment.) To me mythology is more of a type of mirror that man has used to try to describe the work of God. Sometimes the description of the reflection seems accurate and sometimes it does not. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 658 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.203.71 |
Hi Grace2u yes I like Angels, but I draw the line at worshipping them. I love Jesus and serve him daily as my bread. I also have seen a lot ofpeople who are paranoid. That's why they tell us that by being on the myspace is a sin and then we find them there too with private sites LOL! it just shows the double standard. As for you being paranoid I've never seen that part of you, but I sure have with others. I am also not into mythology, or Gothic stuff at all. To me that is not a ngift from God, but from the very depths of hell. My site if anyone really looks at it is very fun. I am a cartoon charactor LOL! and I have a blast there with all of my friends. There's only a couple angel picturs on my site, but other than the couple of them I am not one when I send others a message. Again I'm a very fun loving cartoon with many laughs there. Have a good day Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 849 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I understand what you are saying wings. I'm just trying to meet valkyrie where she is. And I may have even looked at the wrong site. Just because a certain person does something doesn't completely explain their motives behind something. Look at your experience with your pics on myspace. I, for one, was interested in mythology as a small child because I was in a split class 2nd/3rd grade when I was in 2nd grade and we had lots and lots of mythology (probably both what you were supposed to learn in 2nd and 3rd). I just take these for what they are. No they are not a gift from God but they do represent man's desire to understand the truth. It represents men searching. I like the way Paul presented the truth to those who believed in mythology by meeting them where they were - with their statute to the "unknown" god. I just take this as literature. The goth thing may also just some people's way of trying to understand mysteries and it just may be fiction to them. I think Valkyrie should have the opportunity to explain what this means to her. And again - I may have the wrong person. I like to listen to some lesbian musicians. I was disappointed when I discovered that they were lesbians. I think they are excellent with words and very talented. I enjoy their music. Like Mercy Me told us - I learn to throw out what doesn't glorify God but I appreciate their talent. I don't agree with their sin but hey, I'm not sinless either. They don't attend my church and I don't have any place to discuss their sin any further. But I could witness to them. And if I were so inclined - maybe I could take what I see as entertaining and turn that into something that glorifies the Lord. God Bless, | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 660 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.203.71 |
Yes that is also why I told Alexis to come by my site anytime, because Jesus won the people with love and backing it with the actions to match. Be it healing them, to restoring thier sight, and even raising the dead. We are all born into sin there by not being perfect. So I'd be the first to say that I'm not perfect either, but I do have lots of fun in fellowship. I have never laughed so hard since obtaining my site on myspace. I've met so many cool people there and now can put a face to many new friends. Have a wonderful evening | ||
| ezekiel_37 Senior Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 1721 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.156.148.49 |
I knew I liked you, grace.. Peace in Christ c | ||
| alexisd Junior Member Username: alexisd Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
Thanks Grace2u, and Wingsy. Wingsy has been a blessing since the first day I met her. She has always made me feel loved and accepted, and that's the stuff that makes me want to lead a clean life. Talking to her, is like taking a deep, refreshing breath. As far as the whole Goth scene goes, most people don't delve into studying the history of it, or anything. Most goth people are usually teenagers or immature adults with the whole 'poor me' mentality. Some know the depth that it can go and where it all came from, but most (In my experiance) are just people who only see the sadness in life. They can never see the goodness in anything, and it's a sad life to lead. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 661 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.203.71 |
HMMMM... Yes I like Grace2U 2 that's also why I defended her many times when others would try to pick on her. So does your C stand for Cathy? From the myspace site valkyrie? Just a thought, because so many here have knocked the myspace site. Yet it wasn't long before I see that they too have their very own private sites there. That also is the double standard that I had talked about here before. Nobody should knock it until they go there, and get to meet with so many wonderful people from all around the whole world. Even many who have attacked me here re now my very best friends there. They came to realize that yes we may have different ideas, but we're still brothers and sisters in Christ. So Cathy, if you want to ad me as a friend then by all means drop on by. You just might be surprised, and then again maybe not. This is also why I had stopped coming here for a long time, and will do so again. There is more light over on the myspace than there is here. Grace2U, if you come over to the myspace site and add me. I'll connect you with so many wonderful people that you can fellowship with. So you are very welcome anytime. God bless you | ||
| ezekiel_37 Senior Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 1725 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 67.70.149.129 |
I like Grace's attitude, that I know of. We just recently started to speak. I know absolutely nothing of your situation wings... No I am not Cathy.....I am a male and I usually end my salutation with the initial c...Initial of my first name. I was bored last night so I went through some threads I have never seen before. Upon doing so, I recognized Grace's handle and read the thread. Not that I really know what is happening. I don't even know who Carman is. lol In His service c | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 662 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.203.71 |
Thanks ezekiel, and it's nice to have you here. Grace has a wonderful attitude, and my situation is all good (+: It could always be better, but I accept what I cannot change. In every life I believe God teaches us by the road with all the added bumps. I just came here after being gone for a long time to read what my dear new friend above named Alexis wrote. She is a wonderful lady and we have been felloshipping with each other on the myspace. I am honored to call her my dear friend along with many others from here that have come by my site. If you alo would like to drop by then by all means please come on over you are more than welcome. As for Carman, he's a very gifted man who really knows how to connect with young people. I know this, because my daughter is his avid fan. many who used to attack me here have now come to my site on myspace and are my friends. We all found out just cool we each are, and of course we still as a group had to delete the wanna be wifes of Carman who live in fantasies, and not in the land of reality. This way we get to fellowship and have a blast. I might even be starting a whole new picnic there on my blog. Hey Alexis how about bringing the TP indian special HE!HE!HE! Oh man I just couldn't help myself HE!HE! Now that was a story blast with peace in the wind. Blessings to all including you 2 C. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 850 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Hey Zeke, I've talked to you under a different handle before. I always call you Zeke. (See - I'm far from perfect.) Guys I just can't do myspace right now. It has nothing to do with anything except where I'm putting my energy (or trying to) right now. And there is simply not enough energy to go around. I know it may seem like I'm on here all the time and have nothing to do but in reality that just means my house isn't getting cleaned. Alex - I agree on the Goth thing. To "many" it is probably a rebellious thing. To others - yes it may be deeper. I was never a Goth and if you asked my mother I was the perfect child (which wasn't true) but I colored my hair dark just because she insisted it be blonde. I think "some" in the Goth scene are there for a similar reason. God Bless to all. (Message edited by Grace2u on April 10, 2007) | ||
| ezekiel_37 Senior Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 1756 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 64.228.150.187 |
Hi Grace, refresh my memory...which handle? Ps. everyone calls me Zeke! in His service c | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 864 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Zeke, Would you like to buy a vowel? Catch me elsewhere. | ||
| onebellamia New member Username: onebellamia Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 207.200.116.135 |
I FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THIS CARMAN THING...I HAVE WATCHED CARMAN ON TBN, LISTENED TO HIS MUSIC BUT NEVER GOT ALL CAUGHT UP IN IT...ONE THING I ALWAYS SAID WAS HOW COULD THIS GOOD LOOKING ITALIAN GUY NOT BE MARRIED ! AND ALWAYS QUESTION HIS CELIBACY. NOW JUST FINDING OUT THAT HE WAS MARRIED AND HOW ALL THAT CAME ABOUT.I CAN'T REALLY SAY IT SHOCKED ME SOMETHING REALLY DID NOT SET RIGHT WITH MY SPIRT, HOWEVER BASHING CARMAN'S MOM AND FAMILY IS WRONG. WHAT FAMILY CHIRSTIAN OR NOT HAS HAD SOME DYSFUNCTION?? CARMAN'S MOM SEEMS LIKE A TYPICAL ITALIAN MOM AND CARMAN THE TYPICAL ITALIAN MOMMY'S BOY. EVER NATIONALITY IS DIFFERENT..BEING ITALIAN MYSELF I I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE MOM ISSUE. YOU HAVE TO BE RAISED IN AN ITALIAN HOME TO GET IT. BACK TO CARMAN I WOULD NEVER FIGHT WITH ANY MAN TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 868 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I don't know how looks "always" have anything to do with not being married. I myself (even though I am married) feel that if I were ever single again could be happy by myself. Think of what one could do for the Lord, etc. if they were able to put all of their energies too it? Then again - maybe it's just because I'm getting older that I feel that way and they say that older men are more likely to have trouble living alone (compared to older women). I use to feel a bit like you did but now I can see how people like Condi Rice etc. can go this route. One thing I have learned is we should be careful judging others based off of our own feelings about things. LOL! And I too would never fight with any man to look in the mirror (not saying that Carman does this). The fact is that I probably should spend more time looking in one - just not my thing. Too many other great things to do in life. Funny though . . . I've heard just as many individuals say that they did think he was that good looking. (Not that it really matters.) (Message edited by Grace2u on April 14, 2007) | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 878 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I meant to say that I have heard some people say that they "did not" think that he was good looking. Not that any of this really matters. | ||
| onebellamia New member Username: onebellamia Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 207.200.116.135 |
WELL, I GUESS LOOKS DON'T MEAN EVERYTHING IN THE EYS OF A TRUE BELIVER. AND YES EVERYONE ONE HAS THERE OWN IDEA ON WHAT THEY MAY THINK IS NICE LOOKING. WE ALL CAN BE TEMPTED BY THE GREAT DECEIVRE. SOMETIMES THE WAY SOMEONE LOOKS CAN BE A NEGATIVE IN THERE LIFE OR A POSTIVE DEPENDING ON HOW THEY HANDLE IT. EXSPECIALY IF THEY START TO PUT THERE LOOKS ON THE MARKET. BECAUSE UNFORUNITLY IN THE "REAL WORLD" WE ARE JUDGED BY OTHERS! BY WHAT WE LOOK LIKE, WHAT WE WEAR,WHAT KIND OF CAR ETC. YOU HAVE TO SAY IF A NICE LOOKING LADY OR MAN WENT TO ANY ESTABLISHMENT AND THEY DRESSED SHARP AND SPOKE WITH CHARM. ETC. AND THAN ON THE FLIP SIDE SOMEONE WHO IS FILLED WITH HIS GLORY WOULD WALK IN, AND NOT CHARMING TO LOOK AT ETC. GUESS WHO WOULD GET THE ATTENTION? NOT ALL PEOPLE CAN JUST LOOK AT THE INNER BEAUTY. (CHRISTIAN'S OR NOT) .. JUST LOOK INTO SOME MINISTRY'S AND THERE WEBSITE'S AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL...IS IT ALL ON GOD AND HIS WORD AND DELIVERANCE OR IS IT THERE OWN SELF. ...ENOUGH WITH THE LOOKS ALREADY LOL! I GIVE TO WHO }}I FEEL GOD MAY PUT HEAVY ON MY HEART. I PERSONALY AM A ADVOCIATE FOR HELPING TEENS...ON DRUGS WITH EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS THAT NEED DELIVERANCE... THE HOLY SPIRT SPEAKS TO EACH OF US, IT IS UP TO US TO BE OBEDIENT TO WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD. I GO WHERE I FEEL I AM BEST BEING FEED! | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 879 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Yes - in the real world others do try to judge us. That's what I was trying to say - regardless of what Carman looks like or does there will always be criticism from one side or another. Not that there is not righteous judgment but I'm thinking a lot of what relates to what he looks like, etc. is certainly not righteous judgment. I agree that we should give to who God leads us to give too. Sometimes our perception about what a ministry "may" be trying to sell or not may be off because then we start judging motive. Very complicated then. I am cautious about doing that now. On the Carman think though - for the most part the stuff that you would order points to God. One think I realized is that you can't see God on a website. The closest that we can get is seeing the light of God in the person and in the message that they are ultimately saying. I do not believe for a moment that Carman is perfect but I do believe that ultimately his desire is to serve God. I don't really know why anyone would do what he does otherwise. It's a life that you are called to - not one that you necessarily go willingly. | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 72.153.61.39 |
My myspace is not under the name I use here. My children are destroyed for a lack of knowledge....for a lack of WISDOM. | ||
| grace2u New member Username: grace2u Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I'm glad to hear that. I do apologize if I have offended you but I guess I am doing that a lot lately. Doesn't matter - I have to look at myself in the mirror everyday. I was just concerned if it indeed was you. I hope that is ok. OK - I think I am going to try again to stay away for good. Don't know if I will succeed - certainly will not without God's help. | ||
| grace2u New member Username: grace2u Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
OK, I'm going to try the myspace thing one more time. Particularly since I feel that I may have offended Valkyrie - although everyone is welcome to contact me. I'm not hiding so you all friend or foe can see me: I'm here | ||
| grace2u New member Username: grace2u Post Number: 20 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Please visit me cause I need friends! I only have 1 - Tom.  | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 74.225.32.123 |
Wingsy.....since when is walking in love, encouraging someone to continue on the path to destruction? Alex...you need deliverance. B.D. Hyman has an awesome ministry,if you call her she will pray for you over the phone. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
How would you know what I need...looks like you need deliverance more than I do you lukewarm 'christain' Be hot or cold woman, because lukewarm isn't the place to be. So, deliver your own self, before trying to deliever me. Let me see the plank in your eye, since you seem to see the plank in mine. | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.154.57 |
What kind of talk is that? Did you read that showing love and encouraging someone in the bible that it leads to destruction? That by fellowshipping with alexis about Christ is a sin. that I am encouraging her into destruction? You really are a messed up fruitcake, and two fake finger pointing back stabber. I bet when Jesus let the hooker wash his feet with her hair that you'd say he was encouraging her to destruction too then right?? Yeah I see who you are. Just another fake wanna be standing by the side. Another finger pointer when you should just stick it where it really belongs right back up your nose where the goop is so thick it's clogged your brain waves. Don't ever try to pull me into your fake finger pointing lifestyle. I'm not down with it and I will say the same thing that Jesus said, and that was to allow that woman to wash his hair with the best oil, and to you shut your mouth. (That last part was from me of course.) I'm fed up with fruitcakes like you. Your so nuts in the head. | ||
| alexisd New member Username: alexisd Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.101.214.126 |
I'm pretty sure Jesus would rather hang with me anyday then a fruitcake that like | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.154.57 |
And me too alexis. I would rather talk with you anyday. I also know that Jesus was so mad when he threw out the money making grabbers from the church, and I'm sure if he walked into these kinds of palces today that even he too would be judged for not being in an armoni suit, to a proper look with full neck tie, and shiny shoes appeal. I would rather hang out with those that do not stab other's walks by their fake talk of destruction. They speak of destruction when I know my God speaks life to the weary, site to the blind, and health to the ill. I will not judge you alexis, and I will not judge the poster above either, but I will tell her to shut her mouth. When she comes in here trying to speak forth death in her tongue. that shows the real sickness in the message itself. You Alexis are welcome in my place anytime, and I too will share my food, and my coffee with you. Blessings from a real friend. Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Junior Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 39 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.15 |
Guys I'm sorry - I tried - maybe I'm just not cutout for myspace. One day I'll find a home. | ||
| grace2u Junior Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I want to add that many of you here have been more than hospitable to me. It's just some times there are too many bridges that have been burned (by me) and you (I) have to look for another path I suppose. And sometimes you are just meant to walk alone. My best to you - you are a special group. (Message edited by Grace2u on May 02, 2007) | ||
| zebra New member Username: zebra Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 172.131.248.64 |
Valkyrie333: In your above post # 54, you wrote, "IF you are truly a fan of Carman's, you should respect him and not post pictures that would embarrass him." I do not believe those kind of pictures do embarrass him. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Wingsaglow: After reading your above posts, especially # 536 and # 537, I can feel the love of Jesus in your every word. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ no_no: I'm reminded of the following words found in the Scriptures. "Cast not your pearls before the swine"... May God continue to bless. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Zebra | ||
| zebra New member Username: zebra Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 172.162.2.51 |
Wingsaglow: I must add one other thought to what I posted eariler. Remember the great words of wisdom given to us in another post by Wingsaglow. Perhaps she believes it applies only to others. I include it below: _________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:10 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Psalms 34:13 Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile. James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, but a judge. 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy: who art thou that judgest another? 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is SIN. There in is the words from the life spoken to sin, and that is to not gossip. Pray for those who you feel have done you wrong. So to those here who have knocked my family, to even my friends in a ministry that I can and still do call my friends. I will pray for you, and continue to pray for God to work on the ministry. wingsy __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thank you Wingsaglow for telling us how we should be and showing us how not to be. Zebra | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.2.145.18 |
Wingsy.....why would you encourage someone involved in porn to continue to take their clothes off? "If you got it, flaunt it"...."You go girl" Isn't that what your comments mean? What kind of flaky Christianity is that? And you once accused me of trying to curse you. I never thought I would say it, but thanks Zebra | ||
| maurotaliano New member Username: maurotaliano Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 64.12.116.71 |
HEY DID ANYONE GET A CHANCE TO WATCH TBN LAST NIGHT. CARMAN WAS ON THERE AND SINBAD (THE COMEDIAN) WAS ON AS WELL. IT WAS VERY FUNNY. I NEVER SAW CARMAN LAUGH SO HARD. LAUGHTER WAS GIVEN TO US AS A GIFT...I THINK EVERONE SHOULD LAUGH MORE AND NOT TAKE THINGS SO PERSONAL. LAUGHTER RELEASE SEROTONIN...GOD THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING WHEN HE WIRED US...ONEBELLAMIA | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.210.197.212 |
Yes Zebra, you are correct and I was wrong for getting mad at no_no when I should have turned the other cheek, but as an officer my training doesn't allow me to back down. That is a new thing for me and many times I have found it hard to do. So no_no for the start of this post and what I said I can clearly say that I am sorry. To any oher poster that I have aired my temper at I also say sorry. Now that the air has been cleared.... I would like to address that I have never said if you got it flaunt it so please don't put words in my mouth. I will however encourage others, and only God above can judge me so please stop trying to attack others. Ah and Zebra, when ya say swine then are ya refering to me? Cause that too is not right either, and falls under the same scripture. James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. Which would mean that I aint no swine and two wrongs doesn't make it right. As for saying you go girl yes I have said that many times, and still will. I am not afraid to be anyone's friend no matter who they are to what they do. I'd rather anyday be like Jesus amongst the thousands being fed with the miracles of fish and loaves of bread. Than be among the holier than thou sitting in a pew like the holier men of old.In a church that's spiritually dead. As for cursing me... God have not given me a spirit of fear, but of sound mind. So I have no fear in useless curses. Also thanks Zebra for the above message where you could see Jesus in my reply to Alexis. God bless you, and maurotaliano, yes I watched it and man that was so funny. There is healing in laughter I so agree and we sure need a whole lot more of it. God bless you 2 Wingsy | ||
| walk_thru New member Username: walk_thru Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 216.54.35.34 |
hello everyone. i saw carman on tbn and thought it was good that he talked about doing new things that one never expects to do. the laughing was truly enjoyable, although i thought donny was competing with carman just a bit. he mentioned his concert with 'over a million' people in africa, he did runs musically that carman can't do vocally and he kept talking about himself. we would mute him and then turn carman back on. wingsaglow, you were very hostile to no/no, it's good to hear you apologize as a Christian. also, if momma nancy has oksana as one of her first friends, why were you going nuts on her a few months ago and accusing her of all kinds of things? you have a serious temper problem it pans out. if you are an 'officer' what do you want us to think? are you in career law enforcement? regards to other posts about photos and immoral things. one thing that is not cool about carman's myspace is the whole incredibly long control dialogue and numbered out things he wrote out using free will and immoral photos. the fish thing that was okay but still objectifying. it looks like the biggest moral he has is not to be critiqued by anyone or disagreed with. that is really kind of crazy the way he goes on and on about not judging people when the Lord says have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. if you look at michael sweet's space and some other ones, these men of God are nice, but totally clear on moral things and racey pics. carman's massive statement of defense went on and on and it didn't seem very mature in the Lord or otherwise. you can't not like the movie the champion even if there are moral problems and technical problems in the acting. so he puts out the comments that make the movie look better than it is in both of those categories. a good ministry or producer type of situation allows and looks forward to critiques and values them without defensive attitudes. he probably doesn't read Oprah's magazine, but last month she had an article about defensive people that maybe he should check out. and Donny mentioned Oprah like she should count more than than she should believe me. she had the govenor on who left his wife, ruining her life for a gay affair with an intern on her show to defend him. the whole show was about how good and how of "God" it is to be gay and to follow that direction like you can't help it. she totally supports him and his book where he said that God made him gay and wants him to express it all. she is a very compromised Christian. you can take a crack at this post but that's alright because that's your opinion. if people can post whatever pics or moral things and he says it's free will and they are entitled, then so is anyone here. unless the only wrong thing in life is looking at carman through more honest eyes or to disapprove of him in something. does he not have a serious problem with the CWO block adverstisement where he said the scripture about himself? Yesterday Today and Forever???!!!! hey there caraman, that is ONLY about Jesus. CWO is not Alpah and Omega and it's surprising that he would use a very huge scripture like that. didn't this guy have much higher and stronger standards in year past? zebra your posts are truthful and when you demonstrate that you have an education the people who try to push others around fly off the handle at you. this carman site has so many power struggles and bitter destructive fights it should really make a turn. i think that there are some people who do curse others with carnal prayer and negative words and they are not allowed to do that according to the Bible. still kudos and hugs to carman for many things well done in the Lord and for the Lord. (not champion movie) | ||
| walk_thru New member Username: walk_thru Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 216.54.35.34 |
if you come here and read throughout the various arguements and positions you have to question if people are truly saved or just religious. the idea of cult does come to light when there are those who are willing to seriously hate and curse for the sake of a person or a ministry that is based on that person. does carman believe in cursing people or praying things like Psalms to try to snuff out anyone who questions or for that matter attacks the man or the ministry? you can have a very large ministry and have the wrong heart or an abusive method spiritually. all of the talk around hawaii and those people but on myspace his theme is hawaii in the background. when you talked about his eyes looking black and things like that we scoped him out on TBN and one of his eyes looked very dark. but he looks better overall. less phony and nice and chubby instead of too skinny and puffed up. he seemed obessed with weight and image for a long time and like he was being phony. now he seems better. when do the teachings of Jesus become first no matter what you think and feel. not talking about Him to make money or to look like somebody's some leader type when you ain't. if Jesus is your leader then you do things the way He leads and says. you can disagree and disaprove without hating or cursing. prayer is something special and powerful and you have to be submissive and based in love and unity. if the Lord wanted someone to support carman it would be without violence or bogus positions of power that they make up whatever their reasons psychologically. we can all walk thru the fire and not be burned if the Lord is there in the fire with us. GBU | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.143.94 |
Yes I was, but to read my message it was to reply to no_no from their message to me on another site where I was attacked verbally. It is now past so please don't continue bringing it up by adding my name to your post. My reply to the anger yes I have one. Walk in my shoes before you point the speech my way. Just go and get yourself an officer's badge then move your family right in the middle of a drug infested gang banging tagging area. Now protect it while watching the opposite gangs fire their guns at us daily. To even a few days ago watching the swat team surround another gang's house where the son has beaten up the mother and sent her to the ER. Now try to tell them that Jesus loves them, and watch them put a bullet in your head. You just can't work without relating daily to a lifestyle that makes you rough around the edges, but these gangs here respect us, because we have made friends with them on their level. They don't have to prove anything to us and our area has never been so safe as the neighbors have said with their gratitude and thanks. It's not an easy job watching drive bys to drug deals on a daily basis. All the while protecting our family, and the community. So next time you want to talk about anger yes by all means find out how to use yours, because unless you've walked here in my shoes you will never be able to relate at all. I have such a huge anger against sin, and that also includes gossip. I have and will always protect those that I call friends, and my family too. So GBU2 | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.143.94 |
I also have to add this. By all means come on down to our area tippy toes, and see if you get burned. This isn't no game with words either, but just like Job. Unless you have alked it right in the middle of this gun fire. When bullet's wizz right by your head just missing you. Not even your bullet proof vest will save your life, but only God himself. So unless you can relate to the fire. then don't speak the words without having lived in it. It's always easy for a college student to tell a chef what to do, but unless they have cooked and worked their way up in a kitchen. then it's just hollow words. This line to me is just a line until you have worn my shoes. we can all walk thru the fire and not be burned if the Lord is there in the fire with us. It's more than having the Lord with us, but it's us carrying that breastplate daily or we can die at anytime. Life is not to be toyed with just words, but with the actions that have come from living them daily. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 203.214.111.213 |
Do you know what I can't believe? How Christians look up to Oprah as though she is some type of goddess, she has got a large following, but she doesn't preach nor teach Jesus. I didn't even know she was Christian until I heard a Christian mention her. And that man she has, he seems to bent on trying to show her up for something, just for money and fame for himself, seems like he's just hanging on and (not being religious) but out of curiosity, are they married? Oprah has not given me a good example of being a Christian, her primary role is to engage the people, but not for Christ. Never knew she was even Christian until i came on a Christian forum and heard someone talk Oprah this and Oprah that, she has fame and money but that don't get no one into heaven. | ||
| maurotaliano New member Username: maurotaliano Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 205.188.116.74 |
JULIA, I AGREE REGARDING OPRAH I HAD NO IDEA SHE IS A CHRISTIAN. I KNOW SHE SEEMS TO BE A VERY GIVING AN CARING PERSON. I AM GETTING CONFUSED OF THE TRUE MEANING OF A CHRISTIAN THESE DAY'S. I SAY IF YOU HAVE THE JOY OF THE LORD. HAVE IT BE KNOW TO ALL!! SPREAD THE WORD... | ||
| hope_faith_and_love New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.207.189.16 |
Apparently walk thru didn't see the same show I did last week with Carman on TBN. I saw Carman, but I also saw two of the most wonderful examples of Christian men who are able to be friends with and work with individuals that for most Christians would think these people are beyond ever turning to or back to Christ and to just write them off. But, Donnie McClurkin and Sinbad never did this, they didn't get "confused" by what it means to be a follower of Jesus Christ and they are able to lead those back who people like walk thru want to write off because they lack vision to see that when these people come back to Jesus, they come with a love and humility that is so powerful that enables them to reach people that other Christians could never do. And when scientists and political activists try to convince those who are lost "there is no God, don't listen to Carman, or any of those other preachers, teachers or evangelists on TBN" they listen. And many lost ignore the Holy Spirit that is pulling at them to believe. But when Steve Harvey tells them and breaks down and begins to worship and praise the name of Jesus Christ and tells those who are being bowled over these days with an onslaught of movies and primetime news shows trying discredit Jesus Christ and God's word to keep them from believing... it's harder for them to deny one of their own telling them God is real, Jesus Christ is real. Praise God for men like Donnie McClurkin and Sinbad who were loyal to Jesus Christ and were examples and reminders of Him to those when it would have been so much easier for them to "save" themselves and shield themselves from ever being exposed to the temptations in these mega-stars' lives and risk themselves denying the Word of God. Isn't this what walk thru fears she would succumb to? But they both remained faithful to the teachings of the Bible and a friend to those who had been led astray and are a spiritual physician to those who need the Mighty Healer and Physician. This takes amazing fortitude and faithfulness to God that few Christians possess. God has used Sinbad with his gift of humor to talk about his Christian parents and how a very real God worked in his life disciplining him and kept him from succumbing to the call of a counterfeit fame. God uses Sinbad to remind many of these men and women of their own Christian parents and grandparents who raised them and they remember a time when God also tried to restrain them but because of God's love, He had to let them go. God can only restrain us if we allow Him too. But as Sinbad told us that no matter where he tried to run from God, he could never get away from God, because God is everywhere! Sinbad was revealing very real experiences with God that those in the Bible wrote about and many of us have also experienced and many people who we would write off have experienced but because of God's love, He had to let them go until they were ready to submit to His restraining love.... Then they discover that it is the restraint of God's love that sets of free. cont. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
yeah you know, perhaps me asking if she's married is a tad religious, but as far as her being someone I am supposed to look up to I don't, some may say she has faith because of her works, but I say works without faith is as dead as faith without works and unless you have the faith of God and seeking His approval and not that of man and woman, then your works are as filthy rags, no matter how much monetary value they have. Now if she is a Christian and a man has to search God for her heart, then it's a sad thing cause unless she is proud of Jesus, He won't be proud of her and being hidden from the world is like burying your talents as I trust you know the talents in the bible have nothing whatsoever to do with the talents we have as far as what we are good at doing here on earth. Yes Bellamia, I agree the joy of the Lord is to be spread,but it too will be rotten fruit if not tempered with God's will (as we can use joy as an idol, through which we can be popular to men), the fruit of the Spirit is much more than merely joy if it is indeed founded on faith, and if on faith then it has love, and love is so much more than just joy, love is also crying with those who are crying and laughing with those who are laughing. And I also agree that the church is in a sad and sorry state, so I can see how you can be confused. Stay in the word and don't look to man, only look up with your heart and pray, pray that you don't fall into temptation, pray that He deliver you from evil as we are all prone to and look to Him only as your king as man and woman will always disappoint, but Jesus Christ is always faithful. I think there are a few soldiers out there, even if some are wounded. I know that people will be amazed when we get to heaven as to who has got crowns,some will be unknown here on earth, but adored in heaven. That is all a part of the great mystery God has made plain to us, yet some cannot see, nor hear. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.207.189.16 |
Learn from Donnie McClurkin and Sinbad how to love like Jesus Christ did and how important it is for us to maintain our walk based on the Word of God and not by our own thoughts of what God and His love should be like... because this is what many in the world get confused because they think God loves as they do. I heard a pastor Sunday morning teaching on TBN that said God's love is a Holy Love and this is what many Christians like Oprah Winfrey may not understand... But it will be those Christians like Donnie McClurkin and Sinbad God can use to show them the difference. Sinbad may not understand why God has been so hard on him all his life, but it was because Sinbad was faithful to God. Sinbad doesn't realize just how important his life is in the God's scheme to touch so many people's lives and to draw them back to God. God bless Sinbad! And God bless Donnie McClurkin, because if anyone can reach Oprah and lead her back to the God of her childhood, it will be him. Donnie McClurkin is an example of being a greater influence on others, and not others being a greater influence on us. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
I don't know Donnie, never heard of him, he may have a good voice but that don't mean much in the greater scheme of things. He has never been an influence on me personally. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
HF&L got any brown stuff on your nose? | ||
| hope_faith_and_love New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.207.189.16 |
julia, What did I ever do to you? Do you really think that what you wrote to me was of God? I know you think because of your past that you are excused, but if you are going to judge others for failing in their Christian walk in your eyes, take a look at your last post. Believe it or not God is just as concerned about Oprah as He was for you. You must feel worthless and so you hate others who you think view you as worthless. You have a chip on your shoulder and you want an argument... why? The answer is when a child demands love and attention and acts inappropriately to get it. They think love means that they are lavished with constant praise and never spoken a cross word. But, this is not love. If I "praise" you and use charming words to you, you might then view me as a friend, but that's not the kind of friend God wants me to be... this is not the kind of friend Jesus was... I've done nothing to you. If you're here to defend Carman, then do so. But I do not see where I've ever directed more than two posts to you over a year ago. If my being here is all that it takes to make you angry and hostile, you might want to ask yourself who is really behind your "anger". Just because you had to be tough in prison doesn't mean your behavior is correct. Many Christians may have overlooked your behavior, this is what I have done, but its time you recognize that it is wrong... it may feel right to you, but it is wrong! Maybe this is what God wants to teach me. It was wrong when you used this kind of talk when you were defending Carman, but because you were attempting to do good, He did not have me to speak up because He didn't want to break the tender reed.... but now this same behavior is present and instead of you attempting to do good you are now full of hatred for me. Instead of growing more in the Lord, your are getting further away. Your behavior is not of the Holy Spirit. You are spoiled. You need to set aside your childish behavior of believing that because of your past and the tenderness God showed toward you is how He is supposed to be with you always and recognize you are wrong. Yes, God loves you, but you must stop with this tough talking spirit and allow God to heal you. But you have to acknowledge that there is something wrong and want God to heal you and change you. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
How can YOU tell the quality of my relationship with the Lord? You seem to be a celebrity seeker and a fan who likes to say nice things just to be in the good books with people. You sound so religious it makes me want to vomit. I suppose you judge the favour of God by the things you have or the amount of people who know you? You fancy yourself speaking for God all the time and say the way you speak is like idolatry the way God has you say this and God has you say that, I wonder whether you even speak like this in real life and I also wonder about your ministry in real life. Don't tell me what's wrong with me, and yeah God does want to touch Oprah but a Christian (Donny) you are magnifying shouldn't be using her as a Christian standard as she certainly falls short in that department. Hey, if you really want to know God made me tough because I was like a mouse before. You annoy me tremendously the way you talk and yeah perhaps that's something I need to take a look at, but there is no spiritual discernment in things you say about people it's just idolization talk in my view, the observations of me being a child is talk straight out of a text book and has no sense of individuality about it, you just sound like a recording, no well thought out statements just empty hot air. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
Nothing from the heart, God gave me a heart of flesh, that can feel, and I don't need to say God would have me do this and God would have me do that, would God not have you run because your cheeks might fall or get stretched or whatever? How of God is that? The bible says those that wait upon the Lord shall run and not get weary Take a look at yourself you fake and empty person, go and ask God to fill you and to make you individual with a heart, because it seems you lack in that department tragically. Love is not being some limp wristed brown nose, love is tough, love does not overlook truth, love points out truth, love doesn't respect persons, as you do. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.207.189.16 |
julia, You can continue to fight with yourself if you want to. It is obvious you are only looking to provoke a show down. I will have to leave this in God's hands because this is not my fight but His. | ||
| julia New member Username: julia Post Number: 7 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 59.101.138.7 |
yeah sweet matey. And look who likes to put on shows? God will deal with me and He will also deal with you, because i think you are a fake....... do you want a tissue for your tears?  you strike me as heartless, and of no substance. I hope you awaken from you delusion as you are the only person who you are convincing, having said that ta ta! | ||
| walk_thru New member Username: walk_thru Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 216.54.35.34 |
h.f.l. is your temple of worship based upon the notion that Christian celebs are holy as the Lord and should be worshipped and always defended even if they are wrong or off? what you do is really idolatry and religious thinking. Jesus does not condone or inspire religiousness. He rebuked it and He said that Love is the greatest command of all. you are so snotty and willful and that is not deep Christianity. yes that would be great if Donny led Oprah back to a childhood love of Jesus. but he seems to use her contact with him to exalt himself. he also spoke of her in too high of esteem. she likes that british singer who is gay and is a criminal and who is on drugs. she said it didn't matter and laughed when he was arrested for homosexual sex in a guys restroom or park three different times. you can have a 'love for God' and deny the power thereof, the Bible shows. opray is far from trustworthy and she not all that nice off camera. we have good friends who live in santa barbara ca, who live two or three houses over from her and their daughter worked as an intern on her show and there are so many things that are not of God in her life and work. she isn't all that nice and is extremely controlling herself. she has so many people praying for her and influencing her even natilie cole and many other ministers so that shows that even with all of that, she is very worldy and immoral. is it alright to sleep with the man she has been with for so many years and never marry him either? her magazine shows her immorality in places too. some things are awful. you have to look at fruit instead of actually being a fruit, and being so self righteous that you are uncorrectable. wingsaglow, there is no need for us to argue. too bad you defended yourself so much and put almost everything back on no no. that isn't really a Christian heart and character but it's your choice. also if carman had the personal courageousness or humility to come here and read maybe prayerfully then he would see what others see that he could be in denial about. he should see what others think and not take it too seriously unless the Lord wants him to and not take it too lightly like the devil might want him to. the devil hates truth and the Bible says tell someone when they offend you or if you see them in a fault. the fact that he put that scripture up about carman ministries being the "same yesterday today and forever", is really wrong and strange. mabye that was someone else's idea, but he really should get that off of the myspace adverstising area it's not cool at all. he is cool in many ways and with many things however. | ||
| walk_thru New member Username: walk_thru Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 216.54.35.34 |
julia you were a tad harsh with h.f.l., but you told her some things she needs to hear from somebody. thoughts that we have but don't put into words here. she needs to get a life as they say and move away from her crazy attachments to ministers like they are gods. she doesn't believe what people tell her even when it's accurate and that is off. if you all love carman so much then pray for him about the scripture misuse and for people to not worship him but the Lord only. like him yes but not worship him. everyone should be open to reflections and corrections with a good attitude and if they are a minister then they should have a really good attitude. you didn't want to see the truth about donny h.f.l. because you appear to use these ministries like a drug or something. that isn't of the Lord it's like witchcraft of your mind and spirit. carman was being humble, and he was being rivaled which isn't why God allows donny to be on TBN. he was not nearly as anointed when speaking as carman and we muted him often because it felt stressful and empty. he was talking so much about himself and kind of putting carman down sideways. it's cool that carman lives in miami, as long as he doesn't cave privately to the wickedness around that area. talk about worldy. miami is intense. it would be good if carman had the charismatic strength and virtue to come to a blog and read what the ungodly and the godly are saying for humility and truth or perspective. some of it would be uncool and dribblish or rude that's true. better to hear critique than delusions or puffing up things if your a Christian. he isn't perfect and the people who comment or have thoughts aren't either. only Jesus is perfect right? are you willing to hate others that are God's most valued and loved because of a minister that you think is above truth. GBE | ||
| walk_thru New member Username: walk_thru Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 216.54.35.34 |
wingaglow, an after thought is i'm not sure i believe you about being a police officer. looked it up on line and there is no proof of you being liscensed anywhere. are you just completely lying to make a point or tell us a story? weren't you doing tv spots or something and lived in arizona or new mexico from nashville first? many people have accused you of veing a liar and i don't want to do that. does your husband have a recording studio and a band and when did you actually take the tests or go to the academy to be a law enforcement person? are you telling us that there are gangs in arizona or if that is not right, where are you speakig about? you are saved and so you should never lie. if you are true then you should hasve no problem telling the total truth. have an inspired day. | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.143.94 |
I never said police, and you are a stalker. What I do to where I live and what my job is...... Is none of your business. As for me I don't lie, but you do when you claim to know so much, but in fact no nothing. Stalking is also against the law | ||
| not_alone New member Username: not_alone Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 70.183.138.194 |
you know wingsaglow, you are in just a huge fantasy about yourself and your life. who is stalking you? you wish you were significant enough in some realm to be stalked. first, since you are an officer who wears a bullet proof vest yeah sure, you would know that stalkers are always out to harm someone. your information is all over this and other web pages. why do you attack people who ask you if you are lying. that just proves you are. you mix truth with lies and lies with truth and have no conviction about going on the attack to perfectly innocent comments. why don't you just answer the questions and if you aren't guilty then why go on the offensive? oooooooooooooooohhhh. "Stalking is against the law". bada bing bada boom. you are so powerful. why don't you repent for stalking carman, his mom and vada and anyone you think can out fox you. maybe tink can whisper this into your circumsized ear, change your name to foxy but not in the hott sense. you take rationality and honesty and drive your car through it like a drunk ramming into a living room some warm summer night. and it's know nothing, not no nothing. how's your big tv gig going? you living on the streets of LA now and rising to fame? are your kids out there with you playing fake street cop? what time do you put them to bed? 8 pm like you should? and since you are so professional and Christian and all, how about trying a more normal or edifying thread. you show your real talent and mental health with that title tootsie. buy a Bible, read it and try to live it. at least try. God Help YOU. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.207.189.16 |
wings, I have been debating whether or not to post anything to you fearing that it would only stir up more trouble when it seemed things were relatively peaceful... but then someone decided to break the air of peace. This is difficult for me because it feels like to be "friendly" toward you in the least way will be viewed as hypocrisy by some, but to remain silent it felt as if I was holding a grudge... which I am not... but to be as we were before does not feel right either for the simple reason God is changing us both and for me to go back to the way things were before would stunt my development in what God is doing in my life and perhaps this is true regarding your own life and how God is developing you. For example its like two lifetime best-of-friends but then one or both start to grow apart... To remain "best-friends" like they once were means that one or both may have to give up who they are becoming in order to remain those childhood friends. Sometimes friends have to go separate ways in order for each one to grow and be all that God has called them to be... But, it is their own individual relationships in God that will always link them together to hope the best for each other no matter what. I do not know what is happening in your career, all I do know is what God has done in those close to me who God had called in a certain area to accomplish things for Him. They would come so close and then it would seem like everything that could go wrong did and they were left asking why. But they learned that at times God had to discipline them i.e. refine them and then afterwards God would open the doors. They learned to recognize this was what God was doing and learned to be thankful for these experiences... even though going through them was never easy. This has been a repeated pattern in their lives as God continually leads them to fulfilling what He has called them to do. There are times when it seems like there is one endless delay after another but during these periods of "delay" was when God opened a different door than what they were hoping for, but it provided an unexpected opportunity to learn something new or to learn a new skill to add to what God was calling them to do. When these times happened they would worry about what some people would "think" and that some people would "gloat"... but they learned that God has His timing and those who "gloat" don't understand how God works. But those who do understand, they understand that if we are wise we know it is these times God changes us the most. Eventually, we all learned to praise God for what He knew had to be done because we see afterwards how far we've come. I really do hope the best for you and your family. | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.146.27 |
Thank you HFL, and you will always hold a special place in my heart. I will always remain your friend no matter where our paths leads us. I too pray God's very best for you, and your family too. many new doors have opened and I am going to continue to walk right through each one. Have a wonderful day Always your friend Wingsy | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.9.181.178 |
So......I guess a Christian in rebellion is still saved????? and going to heaven????? Jesus said....IF you love me, keep my commandments IF one truly loves God, they will not do anything to hurt Him.....like be rebellious. | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 74.225.223.192 |
Wingsy, you said "You go girl" and "If you got it flaunt it" to someone who was partially clothed and had other pornographic pictures on their myspace. Why would you encourage someone involved in pornography to continue in taking their clothes off? | ||
| grace2u Intermediate Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 164 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Leave her alone. I'm not saying that I agree with the statements made above but I do know that now is not the time to bother her. All I will say is that she has had an emergency - a real one and I'm not that close to her but I do respect that. No holier than thou attitude and no attitude that uses a distaste for holier and thou attitudes as an excuse to not "try" to surrender to God. Just a sinner saved by grace here. | ||
| valkyrie333 New member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 72.144.78.248 |
Baloney.....a convenient excuse for someone caught in a lie. Wingsy accuses of witchcraft and twists other's words......then deletes her post. She is a wolf in sheep's clothing trying to sound super-spiritual and full of the love of God. | ||
| bugs New member Username: bugs Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 66.16.124.148 |
this is a person who is absolutely a phony. wingsaglow seems to lie about things on a regular basis. and she really attacks people and gets super nasty when she decides to let it out. read her posts for proof. lusty barely clothed girls are not godly. God loves them and will help them change. let's not forget carman or anyone, God changes people and He says not to let a hint of sexual immorality be in you. that means turn off your tube. who knows what carman's criteria for a wife is? is it more sexy or more spiritual. does he ask God for the right heart or does he think he already has it??? and grace who has constantly said she is never coming to this "prayer board" again, even when it harms her mental health and she falsely prophecy's is now defending someone who pretends to be something she isn't. yes because she is like that as well. what is really interesting also is the false counselor hope. her posts are so blay blay blay and full of spiritual sounding sentences without the Spirit of God and love of Jesus. she is the 'holy' spirit in her life and plays it boldly in yours. can you imagine what her existence would be without carman? where do you people come from. Jesus loves you absolutely but you are off and so sinfully self centered and invasive. the phrase 'controllers of anyone and everyone possible' comes to mind. cult boards are the right place for some of you. so do you think that it's right with God for carman to sue another Christian and if he is so right with the Lord, why is he so desperate for that kind of money. he is suing him for the same amount he paid off his "wife" with. not good. some of the pastors you are always talking about that back him up, are they going to compromise their lives and ministries following carman's bad example of suing someone? that's right, pastors are not God just as it has been said and are servants, encouragers and helpers. not "over lords". does the Bible actually matter in this circle except when it's used inappropriately? you try to give him the benefit of doubts and you are happy for him that God gave him a couple of years of church concerts to restor him. you pray that the jan crouxh weirdness where she inappropriate about him as said here. yes she did say laughing one time, how old is he, 60? that put him in her category and it was just so gross. talk about your cougar. that is absolutely true. he is young enough to be her son. sicc. they never look in the mirror of reality to ask, am i being sexualized with myself image and with carman who is always struggling with sexualizing in his image and his life. you think that he goes down to south america or hangs out in florida and doesn't like the thongs? can these people stop lying about themselves for 48 hours. is jan's outfit, costume look refined or classy and conservative. no way. she is dressing, its true like the playboy people and old time sex symbols. even the way she speaks is sexualizd. talk to someone who knows this kind of insight and see what they think instead of being a blinded follower and something like a cult member who won't see any truth that is disturbing. God mandates self reflection and being truthful about our self first. gloria copeland is the same age as jan and she is so appropriate, that's right. even joyce meyer is so much more normal. carman has never been to therapy right? because he could take all of these posts with him and ask what the therapist thinks. maybe the professional would get him to actually think about it all. God can teach him how to think outside of the italian stuff and the eogcentricity or victim stuff he does. google some of the info on sexualized behavior if you just won't even allow yourselves as cult members to see it at all. | ||
| grace2u Intermediate Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 192 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
What false prophecy? Saying that I planned on not coming back? You have a strange definition of prophecy. It's my understanding that prophecy related to speaking to God's words. When did I become God? Don't think so. Those were my words and I changed my mind. More example of "bad logic" on Factnet. My mental health is very fine thank you -  now that I allowed God to work in me and work on the pain, suffering, and even my own mistakes of my past. Sounds like a manipulative tactic to keep me from posting a rebuttal. Allowing God to work in our OWN lives seems much more productive than attacking others from my perspective! No a Christian should not go to court with another Christian from what I read in the Bible - I would be interested in other perspectives? How do you know if another person is a Christian? By their fruit? And then should you just walk away. I think the Amish would . . . don't know. To me righteous judgment is the hardest thing . . . and we know there is only one righteous judge. | ||
| grace2u Intermediate Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 195 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
they never look in the mirror of reality And do you? You have all the answers don't you? Now that's an illusion in the mirror. Only God has all the answers. Let me ask you what is the difference in Carman suing someone and you posting your statements against him here? Get the beam out of your own eye! | ||
| grace2u Intermediate Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 198 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Baloney.....a convenient excuse for someone caught in a lie. All I know is that I heard her brother's sister died. If you want to throw stones and not give her the benefit of the doubt well . . . I'll leave that between you and God. | ||
| revelation New member Username: revelation Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 65.32.90.210 |
Thank God for his mercy & grace..we all are sinners saved by His grace.We all make mistakes...thats why we need Jesus daily..pick up your cross daily. | ||
| revelation New member Username: revelation Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 65.32.90.210 |
Thank God for his mercy & grace..we all are sinners saved by His grace.We all make mistakes...thats why we need Jesus daily..pick up your cross daily. | ||
| wingsaglow New member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.213.184 |
Thank you Grace2U, you are a wonderful friend. Yes my husband's Mother who had just gotten out of the ER from having a heart attack. They found my husband's 47 year old sister's body and she was dead. She was given only 3 months to live and it is now being still investigated, but looks like she took her own life. Yes our July 4th is not a joyful one and I'm sure the above posters who love to attack me will feeljoy over this. So go ahead and enjoy my sorrow, but with my Father in heaven I however know that real joy comes in the morning. So I have nothing at all to say to you. Even if I tried to talk with you about my friendships and encouraging others by being friends, and having fun laughing with them, and not knocking them down. You would again just go on a feeding frenzy. So go ahead and ejoy spewing your same old venom, but my trust is in God, and once again thank you my sweet friend grace2u for your prayers. Today's concert which I had to do alone went off with so many being blessed. There was close to 800 people, and through my songs being sung I was able through the pain to touch their hearts and lives today, and to me that's so much more important than what I just read above. You are always welcome on my site, and the door is always open sweetheart. Feel free to message me anytime. Love Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Intermediate Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 203 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I was just thinking - and I am having a hard time not participating in gossip - but it seems reasonable for me to consider that Rendy sued Carman Ministries first (if my understanding is correct). If that is the case then that action in itself pretty well would throw the whole don't take your brother to court issue out the window. HOWEVER . . . I don't know the facts and I'm just trying to look at this from should you sue or should you not. I think if at all possible you should not whether it be a brother (or sister) in Christ or not; however, at times some actions just have to be stopped for the greater good of everyone. Anyway - I'm sure there is more to this than we really need to know. I am in no position to judge except to make these statements here that may make us think that there are sooooo many things that we may not be aware of. May God touch the hearts of your family and comfort them during this time Wings. | ||
| rachelengland Intermediate Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 236 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 4.158.210.228 |
"lusty barely clothed girls are not godly" Bugs.. Really, who says? I think that is a matter of opinion. One persons idea of lusty, half naked women may be different than anothers..Usually people who say things like that bugs..have nude pictures of themselves floating around on the internet and they don't want anyone to see them-so they throw the ball in someone-elses court..Is that what YOU are doing...hmmmmm |
