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cayte
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what great forum! why not name.. Victimzation Forum...lol..I got better ideia...let's create school that teaches that instead "We are god"..that "We are losers"...that will be so much fun...I am serious..I want to be the channel!!hehe
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LOL....
YEAH.. I was wondering about the state of mind of the whingers in this forum.
Most of you complainers figured out after 10 years that this is fake? lol
At RSE you guys might have missed the beginners where you have been told what to expect or leave with getting a refund....
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BTW...I'm a current student for 10 years at RSE and has worked for me ....
I watched the LARSE gathering videos + Jeff Knights footage and almost pi**ed myself laughing. Joe Szimhardt's info looks a bit pale as he is pointing out different book's as an answer to the many questions. '''chuckle'''
Let's hope he is smart enough not to resolve quickly any post cult trauma - more $$$$ for him.
Carol Cobbs info is fine - his truth...
But it is easy to see through the veil of the Chit-Chat that
the real agenda is to get money back from RSE or even trying to shut down RSE
. I hope there is life after L.A.R.S.E ''chuckle''


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ChemicalExpression.com

I'm sorry to hurt your feelings
(can not believe I said this- "chuckle' - giving kudos to a chemical reaction) but there is no way you guys go far with your complaints.
But then at the end you always have your 'fequency specific' club where you find comfort in each other. What a god's (or rather humanity's) journey -
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No, you're not sorry to have hurt anyone's feelings, actually. You're full of hostility, meanspiritedness and anger, from the tone of your posts. Not to mention intolerance, sarcasm and arrogance.

So this is where we agree. You are a fine example of the sort of immature and unevolved students that the school produces. Your posts speak for themselves. Yes, yes, at the end of the day you, too, have your frequency specific (and you really do need a spell checker), club where you can express your defensiveness and "godly" attitude.

Keep on posting. You make our point about the school.

You must be Blue College !!!
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WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS IS TRUTH !!!

What a superb piece of writing Whatcha.
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I might add that the poster we're referring to gives the impression that his or her consciousness is in complete dis-array and riddled with confusion...if you ever come back here, "inyourface" read your posts often and you will see a side of yourself that you might find downright scary.
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damn...now you got me thinking

the meanest of them all
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"Inyourface" it is time to stop taking David Hudson White Powder of Gold monoatomic elements. I know ramtha told you that you would find enlightment, but you have to face it, it is not working, so you better go to another event and pay $1050 and sleep in your tent in the cold because you are truly dis-array and filled with unkindness.

People here are here to support each other in a loving and caring energy. You may not agree with this forum, but no one invited you, so
find a place that is frequency specific to you because you are just making a fool out of yourself and no one on this forum is going to go down this road with you, so if you are looking for a chemical hit, go to blue college and sleep in your tent or better yet, take a long look in the mirror and you will see your inner monsters looking directly at you. Thank God for mirror work. Now go on and look in the mirror and when you return, show some kindness or don't return until you can express it.

I now see why people after years are still throwing there money at ramtha and I see why he keep saying you just are not getting it, you just prove that with your unkindness.



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thank you for you kind words - naturegirl

I will depart for now - I believe I'm too much inyourface

Good luck to you all... Was not my intent to be really mean ---I better watch that karma
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Thank you for leaving and I wish you well.
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I really enjoyed your post naturegirl.
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inyourface,

being a naughty master doesn't reside in the fourth seal and upwards ! i think you need to do more disciplines. i'm concerned about your ability to attain ascension in this lifetime.

so, that means that in order for you to attain enlightenment, you are going to have to go do at least another gazillion hours of field work. or tank work. or the beach. or sit in your tent and focus for a few weeks or months or years.

and you best hurry it up before doomsday arrives because if you can't ascend your derriere to the big ship in the sky, you better get busy fast preparing your food storage and other supplies. the big guy isn't going to save you, you know. you must save yourself.

oh!! that's it ! i get it now. the wine ceremonies ! they are just to prepare folks for the end times so they can get so happy nothing will matter. well there we have it, folks. just stock up on wine and the rest is irrelevant.

and if you are really not blue college, you are done for. those are the elite, the cream of the crop, you know. you have to do more disciplines, so you have a hope of measuring up to the blue standard. just don't pay any nevermind to the fact that not one of them has achieved all of the disciplines in 25 or more years. if they come close, they will likely go the way of audrey wolfe. and speaking of achievement, why hasn't the CEO of the rse business demonstrated mastery of all of the disciplines ? she's The Newest Number One student, and has direct, frequent access to the big kahuna. What's up with that ? Inquiring minds want to know. Do you know ?

just your underground bunker and some cases of wine ! good to go.


voidgate, you wanna have the party at your place? LOL
sounds like you and inyourface are neighbors. you could practice sending and receiving together!

.....for anyone who reads this - i like voidgate, so this is said playfully teasing and she knows that.....but.....i'm worried about inyourface !
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Maybe whatchamacallit we will have a party soon together (meaning you and I and some others) I am looking forward to it.
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hey whatchamacallit-

i had heard that audrey got in trouble awhile
back. cheating or something. did she really get
the sack? gone for good? good!
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oh, yeah. audrey was accused of cheating and she was ...in my opinion...coerced into changing her story. there just has to be more than meets the eye with that situation, i think.
she denied cheating until her conditions of employment seemed to be on the line, and her story changed. she ended up leaving and getting bagged, anyway, (from her job). last i heard, she moved to the east coast.
i would like very much to get in touch with her.
oh, that whole situation is a story i don't have time to type now. but i will.
there were a bunch of folks who were becoming high profile who ended up on the outside looking in by design or choice when their eyes were opened. lucky them.
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Oh well I find it funny that people keep giving there money to RSE and people live so poor in yelm and she just keep opening new stores. She just open up a new store in Bellevue Square, it is called JZ rose as well. It is in bellevue square, which is a very, very expensive location. Ramtha said he was not a guru, yes he is, his followers takes damn good care of him, well they live in fear and in poverty. I am sure JZ and her sister Penny must be laughing how they have fooled everyone. People need to wake up and run as fast as they can from RSE.

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I just want to say thank you all for this site.. It has really helped me process life after rse.

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voidgate you are welcome

I don't think it is nice for people to put us down because we have seem the truth. This forum is about processing RSE and healing ourselves as we move on from RSE. It is a process they we are all going through and attending RSE was painful and very destruction for me personally, my life was extremely happy before I gave my power away to ramtha and now it is all about reclaming my life and taking back my power and gaining the wisdom, so I never allow someone like ramtha come into my life again.
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whatchamacallit-

i kind of liked audrey and got along with
her in a peripheral sort of way. her and i
didn't have much to say to each other but
we had a certain kinship. i was raised in
martial arts myself and had an interesting
experience with audrey. it was in 1997 - the
first archery event. it was a new thing and
really quite fun. only 70 people came to it
so the sardine effect was missing. anyway,
the first day of archery, r had audrey demon-
strate. she did really bad. the next morning i
saw her marching out alone to the archery field
and followed her. she was i found basically
p*ssed about the prior day's performance. she
put on blinders and shot 10 arrows in rapid
succession. all 10 were within the target, and
if i remember correctly about 7 were in the
bulls eye. that was an inspiring moment.
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naturegirl-

about a year and a half ago i was passing
thru yelm and dropped into jz's store - outback.
my god i practically fried my brain in there.
when my mate and i left i said to her it was
as if a dozen grannies on lsd had gone in there
and decorated.

that was pretty scarey.
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Thanks for your comments naturegirl. Likewise my life was extremely happy prior to Ramtha relatively speaking. I went to school in order to change the unhappy components of it that everyone has.
I look at all the new age/ spiritual offers on the planet. I have not observed any of them working better than any other.
However some do not destroy lives by robbing people of the families, assets, incomes, health and in some cases lives.
Like you I would never give my life or my money to a concept that has little tangible substantiation offfered.
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>>>when my mate and i left i said to her it was
as if a dozen grannies on lsd had gone in there
and decorated.
<<<

OMG !!! I'm laughing my xxx off !!!!!
i'm not going to admit now, that i actually liked the decorating in the outback. all the flowers, and perty scents. just eye appeal all over the place. it was certainly more of a girly girl thing, though. no hint of home depot in there at all !

grannies on lsd............ohhhhhhh too funny!!!

anyway, those prices sure were something on lsd. geez. in a poor town like yelm ? you have to see it to believe it. must be a tax write off.
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nyk,
interesting about audrey and the archery. she had tenacity, that's for sure.
i had a few run-ins with her, butting heads so to speak, and she wasn't my favorite person. but i do not think for a moment that she was treated very well with regard to her 'demotion'. even if she did lie and she did cheat - it was that one time. so the ceo can't work with a person on fixing a mistake ? especially when you know that the person is a really successful student with disciplines ? makes NO sense to me.
some folks even think she was set up and the card she held, was placed in her lap, so she thinks she created it. who knows. whatever happened, REALLY, we may not ever know. but i wish we knew the whole truth. i hope that audrey is doing alright.
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What happened to the old OutBack Australian goods is it still in Yelm? Haven't been there for a while... that lady who is in the movie owned it with her partner... then they broke up or something... I heard the story long ago... What happened to that man that owned it... he had a home that was totally self-efficient without govt electric and such... anyone know anything about him?
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secrets,

not sure about the questions you have. the only outback i knew of was jz's store...and she changed the name of it recently.

have you seen the new website some former students have created to develop a support network of ex-students and similar types of folks?
http://www.enlightenmefree.com/
there is a msg board, too, that has gotten off to a rapid-posting start ! check it out.
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Secrets, I know what you are talking about, I left Yelm three years ago but when I was there it was there. Not to sure about it now. I think it is on a street called binghampton I lived in Yelm about a year and half what a hard time that was for me, I have never experience anything like that. Since I left, I have never been back, I just have no desire to return or engaged anyone there. Since I left my life have totally turned around and I finally getting me back after allowing RSE steal it from me. I will never give my power away again. You know I remember living in that community and Ramtha called for Lock down and people were not allowed to go anywhere, the store or nothing. I can't believe the things that I personally witness. No, I did not honor lock down, but so many did and when they realizes that I did not honor lock down, they wanted nothing to do with me, I remember the person that I was staying with, told me if I went to the store one more time, I was going to have to find another place to live.

They tell me that they create there own reality, but that is a lie, whatever Ramtha say's THEY DO!!! He is there GURU just in sneaky way...Anyway, I could go on and on and tell many stories. smile
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ramtha said that god is lawless. well if you
obey commands then you must be refusing to be
god.

lockdown. hah!
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nyk,
will you please behave ? ROFLMAO !!!!

naturegirl, thanks for posting that.
i'm just sitting here laughing when i read your post !
it's so true - those fanatical people just don't get it. whatever ramtha says, they DO !
i once had this woman as a "partner" during an event, and ramtha was up on that stage talking up a storm. well, i sat there thinking, "this is nuts", and he says, "talk to your partner" to everyone. so, i listened to my partner tell me, like a robot, "whatever he says to do, i march!"

i just stared at her.
i just thought about jim jones.

wow.

it's just really amazing to me.

so, go ahead, and tell more stories ! doesn't it feel wonderful to be FREE from all of that!?

oh, whatever took me so long ? oh, well ! it's embarrassing. but i'm not fragile. i can't handle it. i'm HUMAN, after all ! LOL
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not everyone involved with rse was a fanatic,
in the cultic sense of the term. naturegirl
chose to live in yelm. and she chose to live
with a fanatic. she could have chosen otherwise.

i chose to live in olympia. plenty of ramsters
came to town to break the rules. go to bars
despite the infrared demons dripping over the
thresholds waiting to suck their souls. not
just the mexicans. but also staff and inner
circle. also my friends, who were not so cultic,
afterall fanatics were afraid to drive that
far in the event the world decided to come to
an end while they were out, god forbid. ;)
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nyk, i agree with you.
what i said was in reference to the students who only do as ordered by ramtha. my post said, "it's so true - those fanatical people just don't get it. whatever ramtha says, they DO ! "
i didn't say all students are fanatics. of course they aren't/weren't. but plenty of them were/are.
i didn't live there full time, but i spent a LOT of time there. i traveled back and forth on a very regular basis. i considered moving there. my spouse was willing to relocate and transfer a job for ME to be able to move there. not due to any personal desire.

speaking of the world coming to an end...
this new year's event that just passed, students were AGAIN WARNED that the earth changes are upon us and they best prepare NOW. emails are out and about. perhaps you've heard it, too.

anyway, you might want to go stock up on 2 years of food, cuz this is IT ! 2007 !
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...and...

my parents lived in olympia for ten years (yes, they were students). i used to stay with them a lot when i traveled. it was free!

they're back on the east coast now. and they are "quitters", too.
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"students were AGAIN WARNED that the earth changes are upon us...".

the cromagnon who cried wolf.

anyway, my point really is that many people who
attribute their suffering to rse might also
consider that it was their approach to rse and
the decisions they themselves made with how
they actualized that relationship that they are
in the main now dealing with becoming liberated
from. putting all of the blame on jz and rse
for the abuse and deception is in effect also
giving ones power away too.
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nyk,

again, i disagree with your viewpoint. (which is okay)
i'm enough of an adult to know that i am responsible for certain things in my life, and i accept that. but i also know that it does not equate giving my power away to see where others have abused their authority in whatever ways.
if i beat my children is it there fault for driving me to that (which i do not do, it's an extreme example) ? of course not. i would be responsible. especially since i am the adult.
my approach to rse was similar to many folks - i was very sincere. but, i was duped. and the dupers are responsible for what they've done to the dupee. it's just that simple.

and i don't think anyone is putting ALL the blame on jz and rse. but i also don't think certain people who have had the courage to speak out about the red flags there, are going to accept that they alone are victims/wrong/lacking/to be blamed/full responsible for the CHOICE OF ACTION OTHERS CHOOSE TO TAKE.
it is my choice to beat my children or raise them in a loving, safe environment. that is MY responsibility, despite THEIR actions, or conforming.
there are plenty of times in that school i "raised my hand". sometimes just out of plain old habit. for years i complied with that. and sometimes i even agreed with why i was raising my hand. but for me to NOT do so, does not give authority for the teacher to then speak to me in an abusive manner.
there were multiple responses that "he" could have chosen. what was chosen was abuse of authority...beating the child when one claims to be the adult.

there IS responsibility and i am not to blame for everything that i experienced there because we are all only responsible for OUR HALF OF ANY INTERACTION.
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i understand your desire for accountability.
only i dont think you are ever going to get it,
because that woman is clearly insane and appears
to be getting worse day-by-day. and the people
still hanging on there...i just cannot imagine
how they can possibly still be there.
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nyk
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by-the-way...what is this hand raising business?
something new? something desperate? too many
sheep not returning to the flock?

also by-the-way...i was not duped. i moved
thru something - it took two tries - and came
out the otherside. that is how i see it.

all-in-all it was beneficial for me to have
done that. i couldve and shouldve done that
in a much shorter time...say six months instead
of 10 years. but to have remorse about that
would not be to my advantage now. i did not have
what i would consider 'bad' interactions...

anyway, that's my perspective. i know that yours
is different.
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in_the_zone
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Reading the posts, about who is duping who and all that, I will add something that I feel deep in my being to be true.

That one which wants you to call him ramtha is evil...and that evil being is a master at duping people. I would suggest raising your gaze a little higher and see who is pulling the puppet strings.

This is the real tragedy of rse...that people there are being attacked in their souls and they don't even see who is their attacker because people adopt the New Age indocdrination that evil does not exist...that a master evil doer is just bible thumpers from the south looking for the "devil" under every rock.

Evil does exist and a master evil-doer is in complete control over JZ and most everything that happens at rse...look at the nature of the teachings...obsession with self....this is the calling card of the evil doer.
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nyk
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in-the-zone-

obsession with self is the calling card of the
evil doer? well it seems to me that it is a
certain surrender of self that has got every-
dupee in yelm into trouble in the first place.

if we were all a bit more self-reliant we
wouldnt engage in feeding frenzies and tangled
webs. we would stand on our own and we would
also have more to give to others because we
would not be taking from them.
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david_mccarthy
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I get the sense you are demeaning those that
did not "get it".. especially “those dupes” that still live in Yelm..
NYK..you were in RSE for 10 years and talk about it like water off a ducks back..
No..the RSE waters are a poison that permeates deep into the Soul..
Where evil plays dice with the lives of humankind just for entertainment.
I am sure you understand the issues far extend beyond the boarders of RSE and Yelm?

Lets see if we can lift “Ramtha’s” rock of deception and see what scurries out?

In that… your strength will be much appreciated..

David
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nyk
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now david...cut and pasting the same rejoinder
in two different forums does not feel like a
very genuine reply.

at least change a few words or something.
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whatchamacallit
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nyk,

i just tried to reply to you and my post is too long.
i'm going to post it on the EMF msg board where i won't have that issue.
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david_mccarthy
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NYK,

I assure you I was very sincere in my reply..
and request, both times..

and now a third?

David

http://pub43.bravenet.com/forum/3633497066/show/597253
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nyk
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i know david. just a bit of persiflage on my
part. keep in mind that i am a viking. we
are known to cause a wee bit of trouble
here and there.

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NYK,

Ahhh now I understand...

thanks for clarifying..

Its time to use our brains with our battle axes..

chuckle

David
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nyk
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something to keep in mind, if you will. just
because some tyrants have mixed together greed
with spiritual principles, does not mean that
there is no magic in the world. there is. and
though the enslaved may be hamstrung by
contradiction into impotency, we who are
unflocked are not so constrained.
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nyk,
i don't think anyone is saying there is no "magic" in the world.
what i hear being said is that the mixed messages we've been taught at rse can't be depended on as true/valid, so the source becomes worthless.
i certainly don't disbelieve in "magic". i was born with a hefty dose of highly developed intuition. i did well with my "disciplines". but that's the point - it came from ME, not as a result of the teachings. and certainly with no thanks to the rse mixed messages, etc.
it was the fact that i KNEW there is magic in the world, that i was vulnerable to the general message of human potential rse sold.
i'd have been better off going to a local buddhist temple. or spiritualist church. or UU church. or just reading books and meditating. or just being ME. i'm every bit as intuitive now as i was prior to rse. but now, i can move on with my life and not fret that i haven't bilocated because i didn't focus "good enough".
i may distrust outside sources, but i still have MYSELF, and i can trust that. it's good enough for me. and there is nothing wrong with sitting back and letting someone who is making claims, prove their qualifications for the claims that they make. just saying you are qualified, just isn't good enough. not in my book.
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nyk
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i am glad to hear it.

you know, we were at our best on our first day
at the ranch. we were wide-open. the unknown
was big. and then came the shrink-wrap. the
grind. we got smaller and dirtier. some of us
died even. it is easy to see that now - that
de-evolution.

we didnt know it then, but we were much better
off just being ourselves, being with ourselves.
and that whatever we were was really not so
bad. that our ignorance and innocence was in
reality our liberation. then we gave it away
and became unenlightened. we let jz's demon
in. and it ransacked us.

oh, i just got an idea for a devilish counter-
attack. i better not say it in public though....
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>>>>oh, i just got an idea for a devilish counter-attack. i better not say it in public though....<<<<

you just don't behave, LOL.
you'll never get on staff at rse with that attitude !
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nyk
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okay, i give in.

remember what c's wife yelled?

imagine a sublim version of that utilized as
a counter-measure.

see what i'm getting at?

anyone around here with a multi-track?

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in_the_zone
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nyk...you are very clever with words but your words are a huge waste of time and energy...why don't you go somewhere else to post your clever-isms...this is a serious site for people who are serious about helping others who are digging ramtha/jz's claws out of their necks...it's not intended to be a free-for-all pit stop on your journey through your own mind.
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nyk
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i assure you in-the-zone that this is a
genuine suggestion. and pragmatic. fighting
fire with fire.

you on the otherhand are in my view just another
typical ramtha fanatic. love ramtha, hate ramtha.
same thing - a fanatic. dig the claws in even
deeper. that's real useful.
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whatchamacallit
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in the zone,

perhaps you've seen the new website for folks who are ex-rse students ? there is a message board there you might want to check out.

www.enlightenmefree.com

emailwhatchamacallit@yahoo.com
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this is it

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