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osakadan
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 8-2005
Posted From: 58.188.237.120
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Seems like the won building permission in direct violation of city zoning laws.


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So where was the Mayor when his Planning Commission approved the Bethel project on the historic Seward Hall property in violation of the Municipal zoning ordinance?

Nowhere.

At Seward Hall, the City did not have to spend a dime, much less $2.5 million. All they had to do was enforce their own zoning ordinance. The difference between Carnton and Seward Hall was a question of back yard location. Carnton was in the Mayor’s backyard, Seward Hall was not.
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mckays_mill_resident
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Registered: 3-2006
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all, I have not posted in awhile, but thought I would report on what I read in "The Tennessean" yesterday. It reported that Bethel World Outreach in Brentwood had sold surrounding properties that they own near the church for around three million dollors. Just thought I would keep you up to date from Franklin, TN
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ulyankee
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Post Number: 1650
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 74.234.107.69
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

MMR, thanks for the update. I'm not surprised and had been waiting for this for a while. They were sitting on a gold mine up there and once their original plans for expansion in Brentwood fell through it didn't make sense for them to continue to hold on to all that property if they couldn't expand there, esp. since their short term mortgage on the Seward Hall property has just come due as well.

Since these tracts have all been sold to the same developer, one wonders if there are similar plans for BWOC's main Brentwood property, esp. if/when the Seward Hall main sanctuary construction gets underway.

Has there been any progress on the youth center construction as of late?
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robert_unknown
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Post Number: 1425
Registered: 6-2006
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

who will get the money?
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40days40years
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Post Number: 3019
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess that explains why there has recently been a large amount of progress with the construction of the building there.
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dazzla
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Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 2:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will the assets from the sale be credited back to those that tithed ?
Well I know the answer already ....
"When God Spoke to our apostles directing us to buy up property he overlooked the planning laws..on behalf of his almightiness we apologise... but hold on whats that.. its a crackly line .. but we can hear his voice telling us it was his master plan and that we are to use the monies in other buildings or mortgages." rejoice.
Disclaimer... EN will not be held responsible for the Apostolic message not being fulfilled.
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osakadan
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Post Number: 979
Registered: 8-2005
Posted From: 58.188.25.119
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone have the text of the original "message" ?
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ginger1
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Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 75.36.217.14
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We know that Rice and company took some money out, equities. So we dont know how much is left, they still have to pay that back.

When they sold Palos verdez, they sold it also for $3 million but Since Phil Bonasso stole so much of the equity , only $500,000 was given back to them. Far less than what we originally paid for. Which is $875,000.

With all the property value gone down , I don't think Rice and Company got much profit from it.
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kxyx8611
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Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone heard any news that Bethel was considering buying a church in Old Hickory, TN that is for sell and using it as a satelite location?
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ulyankee
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Posted From: 74.234.108.233
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hadn't heard that yet. It wouldn't surprise me, though. They are building quite the network for themselves not just in middle TN, but also extending to Florida.

They call it the "one church on multiple campuses" approach.

It's certainly one way for Bethel (and its many pastors) to survive financially outside of Every Nation and Champions for Christ, particularly since those funding streams don't seem to have done so well in the last couple of years.

According to the Nashville GIS, Bethel does not currently own property in Old Hickory, so it apparently hasn't advanced that far yet.

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