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     missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1521 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.35.24 |
Jermy wrote: I make this statement based upon a number of FACTS. First, pertaining to child beatings, I have seen with my own eyes the holes in the walls and shattered ceiling light fixtures from HW chasing his children while beating them. I have heard BA stand and say that he spanked his seven-week-old baby! I have heard him teach that a baby is never to young to spank! GK covered and hid a member of HH from the law who was having incest with his 7 year old daughter. Then lied and said he didn't know it was wrong to keep it hidden,,,,,, after BD turned himself in and was sentenced to 8 years in prison, case # 04-7273. Didn't know? He's an Ex-cop! GL told me a certain girl had come to him many times claiming her mother was abusing her, but he took the word of the mother that she wasn't! One of the Elders told me his daughter was raped by another leaders son. The story went that one of Blair's sons didn't want to take the girls virginity, so he had one of the other leaders kid's rape her. Who got in trouble? The Girl did because "she put herself in the position to be raped". One Elders son had sex with a 14-year-old girl! Did her father do anything about it? No! Why? Because it was an elders son. Another girl was sexually assaulted by an Elders son, but when the parents began to make a big deal they were told it was God's will for the two to marry and so they were married against the girl's and her WHOLE families wishes. Believe me, I could go on all day long, but I dare not. The more I open this box of filth that I try to keep tucked away in my mind, the madder I get. I firmly believe that BA, HW, TY, GL, JS, GK and a few others to be immoral men based upon the fact that they hide ghastly sins and pass the blame on to the victim. To me they are as guilty as the perpetrators. | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1522 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.35.24 |
I always wondered why the kids at hh were so different from normal kids...In fact my own kids keep telling me, "mother, these kids are not normal something is wrong..." It took me a long time to really see that something was and is wrong...but today I asked myself how could I have been so blind???? | ||
| dowen Advanced Member Username: dowen Post Number: 811 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 67.9.93.81 |
Yes, and we all know what a bastion of integrity TruthHunter is. No one is perfect. Not even you Mrs. Alvear. What has happened to the idea of he without sin casting the first stone? The mighty "Hunter" speaks of someone covering or hiding a sin, yet the legal record shows that when the sin was uncovered, it was a mere matter of hours before the proper authorities were notified, and there was swift action taken by local law enforcement. I want to stress how swiftly the matter was dealt with. There was not a minute wasted in dealing with the horrific deed that was committed. The other point that must be made is Mrs. Alvear and her gang is trying to make political hay out of the admitted sins of another. Exactly the thing she accuses HH of doing. Once again, we have a case of Mrs. Alvear following a dubious trail of telling others to do as she says, not as she does. If she even had an ounce of integrity she would be able to see her double standard here. | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1524 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.35.24 |
I cannot imagine a pastor, a church leader spanking a baby... I can imagine HW screaming and having his fits...We heard him screaming on the phone... I cannot belive that anyone would write something like this on a public board if it were not true...and I cannot imagine how we as christians read these things and Look" the other way... This is not the time of the year to look the other way this is the time of the year to bring hope and freedom... | ||
| dowen Advanced Member Username: dowen Post Number: 813 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 67.9.93.81 |
"I cannot belive that anyone would write something like this on a public board if it were not true..." Oh, so this is how we are to judge postings on the web now? Why, black helicopters and reptilian world leaders must be true also! Of course! If something is written on a website, it is true. It must be. Sigh. I am going to go hide in my bed because I am afraid that the Illuminati is coming to get me. I know these guys exist because I read about them on the web. They are a bunch of 'Jews' out for world domination, and they are coming for me, according to a post I read on FACTNet. But, even if I escape their evil clutches, I must be ready for those crazy green aliens I read about on FACTNet. They are coming for me too. I think they want to conduct some kind of experimental exam on my nether regions. Oh my, I better dig a bunker in my back yard and hide in it. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1531 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.35.24 |
your being silly does not take away from these awful things about HH can you come to the board and say it is a lie? | ||
| dowen Advanced Member Username: dowen Post Number: 816 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 67.9.93.81 |
The only one being silly is you. Saying things like 'if it's written on a public board it must be true...' Wow. Talk about silly. | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1538 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.123.158 |
So I am silly...well...whatever...but it would seem to me to be a crime to put what truth hunter put on this board and it not be true...and by the way my lawyer does say it would be a crime...I think TH is smart enough to know that... quite a diffence in saying black helicopters are flying around and naming names of people that are abused...especially minors...and cover ups...you know truth hunter is not the only one that posted crimes here...so be careful what you say things are being investigated... | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1539 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.123.158 |
dowen anyone can put what they want to on a public board but I paste here again: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jermy wrote: I make this statement based upon a number of FACTS. First, pertaining to child beatings, I have seen with my own eyes the holes in the walls and shattered ceiling light fixtures from HW chasing his children while beating them. I have heard BA stand and say that he spanked his seven-week-old baby! I have heard him teach that a baby is never to young to spank! GK covered and hid a member of HH from the law who was having incest with his 7 year old daughter. Then lied and said he didn't know it was wrong to keep it hidden,,,,,, after BD turned himself in and was sentenced to 8 years in prison, case # 04-7273. Didn't know? He's an Ex-cop! GL told me a certain girl had come to him many times claiming her mother was abusing her, but he took the word of the mother that she wasn't! One of the Elders told me his daughter was raped by another leaders son. The story went that one of Blair's sons didn't want to take the girls virginity, so he had one of the other leaders kid's rape her. Who got in trouble? The Girl did because "she put herself in the position to be raped". One Elders son had sex with a 14-year-old girl! Did her father do anything about it? No! Why? Because it was an elders son. Another girl was sexually assaulted by an Elders son, but when the parents began to make a big deal they were told it was God's will for the two to marry and so they were married against the girl's and her WHOLE families wishes. Believe me, I could go on all day long, but I dare not. The more I open this box of filth that I try to keep tucked away in my mind, the madder I get. I firmly believe that BA, HW, TY, GL, JS, GK and a few others to be immoral men based upon the fact that they hide ghastly sins and pass the blame on to the victim. To me they are as guilty as the perpetrators. Now Dowen remember truth hunter is not the only one that accuses them of crimes...neither is he the only one that includes names....dates, places.... shall I paste some more that others gave information...oh yes you will call me a troll...but will not prove that hh is innocent because you know you cannot... | ||
| seekingglory Member Username: seekingglory Post Number: 75 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 24.162.130.84 |
First I must say I do not believe that the leaders at HH could ever transform enough to make things right. Too much water under the bridge. They have done sooooo much damage they should depart and let someone else try to ‘right the ship’. The people with the Branch Dividians were very sweet God loving people that just fell for a warped leader. The more Vernon was persecuted the more his followers protected and admired him. Remember Jim Jones. Members of Jones' church called Jones "Father" and believed that their movement was the solution to the problems of society. The group gradually moved away from mainstream. Jones’ intention was to create an agricultural utopia in the jungle, free from racism. Jones was widely respected for setting up a racially mixed church which helped the disadvantaged. Around 70% of the inhabitants of Jonestown were black and impoverished; Sweet people that fell for a warped leader. That’s why we write. We want to affirm that the general population of HH is good people. The leaders are warped and abusive and we just want to caution potential candidates to know what you are getting into. If you desire to be controlled and manipulated and abused then by all means go join them. There are actually people in this world that need to be led through life and cannot even feed themselves. Remember, some of the people that burned with the Dividians and some of the people that drank the Jonestown Kool-Aid were very sweet intelligent misled people. | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1554 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.82.7 |
and people that had no where else to go...others had failed in life and were at a loss where to go...so they fell into traps,,,I see the same pattern at HH... Somebody loves you, feeds you and then you are trapped... | ||
| allforchrist New member Username: allforchrist Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 65.218.218.131 |
I am new to this board but not new to HH and the discussions going on here. I wonder if perhaps there is another place where X-members gather without the condemnation of those who seem to be part of HH or at the very least, support the doctrine there? Has anyone formed a support group elsewhere? I can't imagine the Lord being pleased with all the confusing discourse here. | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 395 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.176.48.179 |
Hello, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exhh Do NOT use the "join" option. Follow the instuctions on the main page. | ||
| allforchrist New member Username: allforchrist Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 65.218.218.131 |
Thank you FH. Is the yahoo group moderated? Is it an open group available to anyone on the net? I do not wish to expose anyone or mention names in an open forum with my questions and/or discussion for I know for certain my loved ones would suffer and that's the last thing on earth I want for them. I will wait for a reply and then possibly meet you in the yahoo group. | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 397 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.176.48.179 |
There is no guarantee that someone has not been honest about who they are or their intentions when they join. It is not open to just anyone who gets on the net. Only members can see the posts. But we can not guarantee that all the members are who they say they are or that they are not sharing their password etc. I encourage the use of initials instead of names. You can use a nick name for yourself when you sign up on the board, but a moderator has to know who you really are by personal e-mail contact before they will let you sign up. Mostly it is just a place where people can share without being badgered. There are three moderators including myself. We have never needed to delete a post or ban a member due to ugliness, but we easily can if it became necessary. It is a small group, and most of us are busy. Not much goes on. We share prayer requests etc. Feel free to email me at formerhh@yahoo.com | ||
| allforchrist New member Username: allforchrist Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 65.218.218.131 |
Thank you again, FH. I will email you. |
