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missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1516
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.137.128
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 6:34 pm: | 
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As many know we just arrived from the far rugged northeast of Brazil. We had been so blessed to know the Name of Jesus while millions in this world have never heard His name ever mentioned one time. I am told that we have over 100 Indian tribes in Brazil that do not have the name of Jesus translated into their language…Who’s sin is this?
Traveling today we were talking about hh and its leadership.
I told my son “I really believe that HH started out with a leader that had a real desire to please the Lord and seek deeper things of God than just the normal…Men and women throughout history have made great marks on our world because of their devotion to God. Sadly many have failed because of flesh."
Some of the Possible reasons for hh to be as it is today…could be that the leaders came from the hippy world and never sat very long under pastoral leadership. They never had the proper training themselves.
I would say that some of their Past problems were never really resolved and now have surfaced…
The author of the book of Hebrews speaks and warns us about a root of bitterness. Heb. 12:15 Maybe some of their “laws” comes from the fact of where they came from…who knows…
I saw in HH worship for creature more than worship for God… The building up of ego has no place in a leader of GOD…I think all the demonstrated “Force” authority…is a cover up for what leaders there have failed to deal with: which in my humble and simple opinion is: their own spiritual needs…and that oversight is destroying them.
The secular enterprise that they must depend on for operating expenses such as the fair etc forces them to create an image that is not true. Independence of not answering to a higher authority has warped them into thinking they are higher and so much above all God’s other children. Exaggeration contributes for what we saw there…Gimmicks such as using God’s name to force people to complete obedience…
God never gave His glory to another our goal should be to know Christ and make Him known. Anything else is off center...sadly in my opinion hh is far off center...
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missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1517
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.137.128
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 6:38 pm: |
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I am well aware that in the beginning of HH great sacrifices were made, people labored hard and long and intentions were noble and in the beginning the efforts that were made are laudable but they set a dangerous pace for today…I tried to tell Mom about these things but she would not listen for her opinion had already been shaped by hours of “brainwashing”.
Saying we have something to add to the Bible is dangerous and we are cursed for doing so.
HH is experimenting a progressive fall and I would say people are discovering that Blair Adams is not Moses no more that Braham was Elijah.
Personally, I have nothing against Blair Adams. I just don't agree with his doctrine. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1518
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.137.128
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 6:47 pm: |
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I do not believe we have to force people into blind obedience. I do not believe we have to scare people to get results...
There are more ways of forcing people other than physcial force... |
dowen
Advanced Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 812
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 67.9.93.81
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:41 pm: |
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"I do not believe we have to scare people to get results..."
Then you do not believe that Jesus should have done what he did when he violently ran the money changers out of the Temple?
Then you do not believe Jesus when He said that no one gets to the Father but by Him?
Talk about a scare tactic!
Jesus said that we must believe in Him, or miss out on Heaven.
I think your real gripe here is with Jesus, not HH. You seem to think that Christianity is a comfy bed of hippiesh "Peace bro, we's all a gonna make it".
Nah, come to think of it, God doesn't want us to fear him. You're good, I'm good, let's go party. God wouldn't want a Brother or Sister to warn another Brother or Sister, no, He wants us all eating drinking and making merry. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1527
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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So I will get up in funerals and tell about people's sex life and why they were killed...
You are sick...
I have no gripe about Jesus I spend my whole days, weeks and years in pagan villages telling people about His love. How do you spend your days, weeks and years??????????????? |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1528
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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So I will get up in funerals and tell about people's sex life and why they were killed...
You are sick...
I have no gripe about Jesus I spend my whole days, weeks and years in pagan villages telling people about His love. How do you spend your days, weeks and years??????????????? |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1529
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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I refuse to scare people into obedience...I refuse to prophecy doom trying to get someone to come to perfect obedience...No I do not believe Jesus acts like HH. |
dowen
Advanced Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 815
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 67.9.93.81
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:06 pm: |
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"...I spend my whole days, weeks and years in pagan villages telling people about His love."
And what was that Jesus told the Pharisees about praying on the street corners? |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1532
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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I don't pray on street corners...I was so far back in the backlands I was wishing for a corner...ha........you are so off target it is funny... |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1533
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:23 pm: |
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Why don't you tell us a little of your life story working for the Lord of harvest? |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1534
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.35.24
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:23 pm: |
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6.5 billion people in our world today, 193 countries. It is my job as a disciple to tell the story of Jesus and warn people of evil...that is why I write on factnet...to warn of false doctrines...false christs... |
dowen
Advanced Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 817
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 67.9.93.81
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:31 pm: |
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"It is my job as a disciple to tell the story of Jesus and warn people of evil."
Warn folks of evil eh?
Oh no! That would require using those "evil" scary tricks that you so hate HH for using!
No, you can't warn me of evil, that would be using scare tactics, and you are against that, remember? |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1535
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.123.158
| | Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 6:48 am: |
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warning of evil does not require scary tricks...you have been around hh so long you must think all use tricks...no daniel there are real men and women that do not resort to manipulation. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1536
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.123.158
| | Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 7:00 am: |
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warning of evil does not scare elderly folks into not making trips with their children...just because some "elder" didn't get the answer he wanted...scares some people Daniel but does not scare me...
When I first went to HH I felt such a respect for what I thought was so "out of this world"...until I stayed long enough to find it all just another "setup"...do you really think that make me happy? I really thought all that stuff was real...wish I would have just took a quick tour and left...I am very let down and in no way do the things that happen there resemble my lovely Lord Jesus...
Do you think it quite odd that a leader talking to another person would laugh and call the HH people jaded...laugh about their blind obedience?
I think that leader needs to go back to the alter and learn what it means to lead God's people...I hate to hear someone say.."I skinned the people tonight". In my mind I see little bleeding cold sheep. No I do not agree with overbearing leaders...
I saw what they do to God's little lambs... |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1537
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.123.158
| | Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 7:05 am: |
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No Daniel I would not use scary tricks to warn you...just go home and read your Bible...pray for God to clear your mind and set you free from the things you have in your heart that are not like Him...No one has to scare anyone to warn them...
We serve Jesus because we love him not because we are scared of hell... |