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wingsaglow
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Post Number: 474
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just so you can reread what you said right here.
Let me help you then to remember what lies really are then, and again your true colors are shining through.

This was just one of your post:
If you think I am going to read your posts, you are duh tah duh in all repects

I am happy that you ended the comment in all respects. Just to sound nice to me an older lady.

Then from all of the post you have now shown that indeed you have read them all, but deny with the lie that you wouldn't do that?????
HMMMM...

Then if you still deny that you will not read them all, and even to attack others like hfl.

Let me again enlighten you with this post that you finished off with which again shows the lies and your true colors.

Thanks Sweety for all of the post below it does open up our eyes to see.


So here's your post just incase you have forgotten that you posted this and try to again lie your way out of it:

Woww you gave me so much inspiration to post a zillion times.

Here's from the one who as stated above: If you think I am going to read your posts, you are duh tah duh in all repects


There in is the lies that fills your every move, and lets others know who you are. When you also stated about me smoking to only doing one TV show. Boy you are so filled full of geolous hate to spew your vomit like that. I am a singer and would never wreck my voice that God gave me by smoking, and as for a one hit band wonder to doing one TV show.

Again sweety way off in left field. You're still fishing where the fish aren't biting.

To still attack Vada, Carman, to even Carman's mother is just like you. As for always asking why I went private on myspace again my reply is because of the people like you. Who have nothing better to do than live their lost dreams by putting other down who have already obtained ours.

Uncharmed there is doctors that can help you over come your problem of stalking me on myspace, to Vada, Carman, and anyone else on myspace that still stands up for the ministry.
There's also a law against stalking uncharmed, and as for me I have never stalked Carman. Gees! you really must not have seen my picture eh??
I have had no problems at all in the dating filed where men were concerned, but then I found Christ and then found my best friend.
So youngin you still have a lot of growing up to do, because you're still showing me just how wet behind the ears you are where men are concerned.

But uncharmed thanks again for showing us through all of your post your real colors.

wingsy
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wingsaglow
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Post Number: 475
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As for all of the threads. At least mine is on the scriptures about gossip and hate. To how it is a sin.
can you now justify yourself for trying to tell lies to everyone that I smoke? To wanting to read my site so bad so that you can get your next scoop on me to anyone else?

Yeah that's real healthy uncharmed.
As for Fame and fortune no I live for God, and I am worthy of my hire. If God blesses my family with wealth don't be geolous, because you buried your gift. I for one will use every gift that God has blessed me with to multiply my ten. Just like the men in the Bible. The one buried his to keep it safe.
While the rest went out in the highways and bi ways to use theirs. You see uncharmed you really don't know who is being ministered to on myspace, because you don't even have one. Instead you are once again trying to live your life through others who are using the gifts that God has given us.
So for me to now have my site private is so that I can encourage real friends who aren't fake.
As for all of the threads. No I'll just leave them all for you as you're showing just how good you are at it.


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wingsaglow
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Post Number: 476
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also one more quick note for you uncharmed. In your post where you claim that I am into this whole new age with Angels????
Lets just look at what your post really says as in mine when I've replied to people that I pray God sends his Angels to bless you or protect you. It's not right for me to even put the word Angel in any of my post, but for you when you do it it's ok then???

Here let me show you your post just so that we're still on the same page. Notice the ending where you posted the word Angels??? So then let me try and get this straight. When I've sent a message and used the word Angels I'm into this new age Angel religion, but when you use it your not???

Isn't that like calling the kettle black???

Here you can read it for yourself then right from your own post. This is your post right??

uncharmed
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Username: uncharmed

Post Number: 158
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:45 pm:

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Bachman you are a true blessing dude. I like your topic and your list. And I like that you went to Romania. You are a good person it sounds like from your testimonies and a guy who really seems like you have a good heart.

How cool is that, that you served the Lord with reaching out to the gypsies and that you are all about the Bible getting into their hands. I like you!

Merry CHRISTmas.

Sound of Angels!
Peace on Earth Good Will to all Men For unto you This Day a Saviour is Born!!




Yes the sound of Angels and there will I leave you with this thought. What goes for the goose also goes for the gander right???

wingsy
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 159
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Duh Tah Duh Sweetie Pie, You are so boring.
So so so so so so so a copier who can't think for yourself and you put everything back on the person who is confronting you.
In Alanon they call that blame shifter.

I do know that you are ministering to yourself and trying to sound like you are doing for others. Uh Duh, of course I have a myspace with my real name and my families pictures on it and a whole bunch about the health of the oceans.

Did you apologize in your godly and humble [non defensive] posts for minimizing my work and the kind of things that I believe can be service to the Lord? Nope because you are not a sweet enough or humble enough person or a strong enough Christian to do it. Duh.

I just asked you if you smoke because your husband does. Did you answer if you use foul language, nope. Of course not because you don't say anything honest about yourself but you do brag and exaggerate whenever you think someone is listening.

I am not living my life through your gifts duh tah duh. Where in the magical world of your thought life did you come up with that one sweetie?

You are so so so so so so so like so dumb already. I saw your myspace on Carman's page you dope. I didn't go looking for you. I don't think of you. Do think saying I am stalking and that it is against the law, honestly distracts us aside from the fact that you have spiritually stalked Carman? What about your letters and moving to Nashville and going to his church and claiming to best friends with Vada?

Thank you for your sincere compliment on my threads.
You see, Wings you had a chance to be really godly and you declined. We see the real you even if you post a zillion good stories with a moral you wish to make us accept. You do it first and you prefer others above yourself in love and then preach it sweetie.

Oh uh, Wings, of course you are "after fame and fortune". Just be careful dear about using the Gospel or the things of God to make yourself an image and some coin. So so so so so so so wrong and sneaky. By the way, if your husband smokes around you, you are a second hand smoker.

Eh why don't you stop being a liar by putting up a pic from the late 80's. You don't look like that anymore and it's deceiving. Put up a photo of you in wetsuit. You and Vada couldn't possible fit through a door at the same time.
I have my photos with surfing and training dolphins which are current.

What is geolous? How can be something that isn't even real? I haven't lost my dreams I am busy doing them. At least I don't lie on websites and pony up false hoods and false comments on books written by a husband using two different names.

You are just being a liar again about myspace. You and the Carmaninjas don't want to be challenged on what is wrong with you or how you are lying. Just a lack of integrity and pride.

Thanks for leaving me all the threads. I didn't realize they were yours to give away. I just had to post wherever I saw your name and your jive.Then I realized that your name is all over the threads and it isn't worth the time it takes.

You are saying that you are wealthy now? When did your status in life change from losing your house in Nashville and having to sue MR.Hearn for losses [even though the Bible tells you not to] and the huge costs of your husbands medical bills? Now you are telling all the world that you are wealthy? You wish you so so so so so so wish.

What is the "dating filed"? Were you in some kind of matchmaking business and kept files on men you imagined were interested in you? Carman never was and he wouldn't be either. I don't want scoops on you. You scoop it and put out here and I don't have an appetite for it.
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uncharmed
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Username: uncharmed

Post Number: 160
Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No SWEETUMS, he posted, "the sound of crickets" and I was being humorous by saying something like that and in the Christmas joy of reminding all of us what happened when Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

What you do with angels is very very very different than what I believe or do. Why do read a sentence or two and then make an entirely turned around story out of it. Defensive much there? Manipulative there?

Woww what happened to the geese you were watching? Suddenly sweetie you are not in such a generous mood? No I did not give you a salutation when I said all respects. I meant in all respects of life. Duh like different areas of thought and culture?!

So so so so so so so inaccurate wings and so so so mean but very very good at hiding it.

Do you ever ask for the Christmas gift of a spelling dictionary or program? Geez!
What are you planning to send to me for Christmas? Anything I will really like?

Well New Mexico gal and Vada's best friend, [even though she named Carman's mother as that person and not you], I guess we will have to talk some other time because I haven't anymore time to spend on this or you. Sweetie duh tah duh, can you try to at the very very least argue about something that was actually said.

God Bless You with whatever you need to hear Him and to see yourself for who you really really are.

Why are you up so late again and on the web trying to make points when you have a family and a sick man to take care of? Don't you have all those successful productions to work out? How DO YOU GIVE AWAY ALL OF YOUR VALUABLE TIME?
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 161
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A parting thought for your enjoyment my dear,
I read parts and pieces and some of the posts I don't read at all. And don't let this blow your mind, I first ask the Lord if He wants me to read something.

Do you plan to answer any questions with any honesty and being the so so so so sweet humble gal you are?
Cause you didn't answer anything that was a moral or spiritual question, you only tried to fight and manipulate your way out of something duh.

Sweet Night to you Sweetie.
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wingsaglow
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Post Number: 477
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You like to twist words so much uncharmed. I said IF GOD BLESSES MY FAMILY WITH WEALTH don't be jeolous, because you buried yours. I for one will use every gift that God has blessed me with to multiply my ten.
Read it again, and please stop lying.
swearing?? here you go again.

As for this post it again gives you away, and even Vada knows who you are.
This just proves it again just how messed up you are, and still praying that you would be a wife for Carman if he didn't ahve Vada around????

This is the section that still proves who you are and that you are still messed up big time:

Did you apologize in your godly and humble [non defensive] posts for minimizing my work and the kind of things that I believe can be service to the Lord?

No because your service is how you want to be Carman's wife in the service beside him, and your post by following his every picture to even all of his friends on his site again still shows how you are stalking him.

I unlike you don't have to stalk anyone as I already have a wonderful husband. While you are still praying that Carman will ditch Vada so that you can then have him all to your self.
as for me staying up late are you my Mother??
As for taking care of my husband that too isn't your business he's not yours either.

Please also don't call me a dope to dumb. I don't have your roots. I haven't called you names, because unlike you I don't have to sink myself to that low of a level to still make my point, but for you there really isn't a point at all, but still another wanna be wife female.

wingsy
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uncharmed
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Answer a question will you sweetie that has a real meaning in it?

Did you have a problem with Happy Feet or did you think it was all good?

Answer the other questions before you go off on one of your defensive lecture trips duh tah duh.

Thanks sweetie.
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 165
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are still spelling JEALOUS WRONG. If you are not dumb or a dope why does your spelling say that you are?
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uncharmed
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

VADA does not know who I am.
Berrkabeep try again.

I know, yes I said I know what the Lord said to me about her and He does know her.
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 167
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I am your Mother. How did you finally figure that out?

As a mother shouldn't you be in bed in the middle of the night. How do you spend so much of your time online? Is your child neglected by you or something sweetest?

I told you a year ago about my finance and his family.Duh Tah Duh his name is not Carman!!! And he is not 51.

Do you think anyone wants to marry a guy who so egotistical he is blind? He preaches the Gospel but his personal life if not really desirable and he is old and shallow. Maybe he wasn't always like that and maybe by some miracle he will change or marry the right woman, [God help her and strengthen her].

My parents knew a number of women who thought they were supposed marry him or were going to marry him in the 90's. Uh duh, I wasn't one of them, I was how old?

You are too so so so stalking him and the people who know him or help his ministry, in your own way Wings.

I don't own or have or do anything with any of his pictures. And I think it is really weird and kind of gross that they have his picture change from a boy to a man on the myspace thing. Creepi.

Do you see some of those people who extol him and what their lives and health are like? He needs to get away from the celebrity world and be a person who serves the Lord and who ignores those flirting and aggressive women. If his standards were more godly for real and so so so so worldy and fleshly he might be heading in the right direction. If I told you that God has also spoken to me a bunch of times and said that Carman was not supposed to marry a divorced woman and that it is spiritual, you wouldn't believe me. I have the right to talk to God and ask Him questions. He often gives me answers that prove their way out over time periods. I think I have the right heart foundation when I ask and that is why He will answer.

Is his life any of your personalized business Wings?

They let ungodly people on and don't clean out the "beautiful buff women" who are kind of or even really sleazy, but if you are someone who has a normal and critical thing to say you are not going to last or be seen. Now does that sound like a cult at all to you?
No duh of course not.
Is it controlling or arrogant? Is it dishonest?

So sexy is okay, witchy is okay, worldly is okay but it is so so so wrong to question his lifestyle or anything that sounds like a lie or spin machine fruits?

Okay let's really end this for a long long time. Who wants to think about all this?
Christmas is way more fun and special than this stuff.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 3:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK OXANNA and that's why I deleted you to give myself an early Christmas Gift by getting rid of fake friends.

May your Christmas be filled with lots and lots of fish OXanna

wingsy
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 172
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 4:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think that the people who think that you drink are accurate. The way you are ranting and striking out in a crazy way sounds and feels like someone who is drunk.

You didn't delete "me" at all. I am not on your myspace or anyone's who is here or anyone who is connected to Carman duh. Poor Ox Anna I guess unless she is strange towards Carman. You are being the accuser of the bretheren now Winks.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No I am putting the devil to flight, and caommanding you in the name of Jesus to get behind me Saton and take your foul gossip with you.

It's very simple you are the author of confusion, and still trying to hide your real name and of course I know who you are.
The only person that I deleted last night was you, and then you left here ASAP. Which is why I made the post OXsana has left the site, because you went right over to the myspace site and instantly checked to see if my picture was still there. Then you saw that it was deleted, and assumed that my whole site was now gone just like Vada's and Momma Nancy's.
But my site is not gone, but you are from it so you can't get into my site ever again. That is why you came back here ASAP and claimed that I had closed my site too. Again you are found out OXsana for being a mess, and a liar.
It is not I who is the accuser of the bretheren. I have not gossiped here about Vada, to Carman or anyone else, but in every post from you proves that you are the accuser of the bretheren.
I have encouraged them and uplifted them, because of people like you.

Get a life OX-sana and move on!

And hfl thank you for being right on. If you contact me on my private message site on myspace I will give you this person Uncharmed's site, and you can then put her face to all of her comments, and you will all see her dolphins to her ocean pictures of working with them.
I'll give you the link from my private message site if you want to see her for yourself.

May God bless you
Wingsy
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hope_faith_and_love
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Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 5:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wings,

Just to avoid any accusations that I am meeting you privately and gossiping with you, I am going to say this here that I must decline your offer. I hope you will understand. For now, I still haven't figured out how myspace works but one day maybe I will.

I've seen some shocking things on myspace, but I have also read a lot of uplifting testimonies by Christians whose behavior is so removed from what happens here on factnet. I hate being part of this continual contention but for now I am learning what God would teach me.

Wings, don't let anyone keep you from making yourself available to others on myspace. Think of it this way....it is a ministry. It is one more way to let your light for Jesus shine. And the more Christians who come the brighter this Light shines! And the more Light that pierces the darkness the more the darkness will dispel.

Do not let anyone provoke you into "limiting" the reach of your ministry. If any posts are inappropriate for children to see then remove them. If someone from factnet comes there to spill their poison, remember "you" are in charge of your space and can delete their posts. You've been open and provided everyone an opportunity to get in touch with you in various ways so if these people come just to cause trouble it will be shown that they are at fault and you are innocent.

As for me, for now, let these people say what they have to say to me publicly here. So God may finish what He is doing by bringing me here.
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wingsaglow
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Thank you HFL I agree, and as for myspace if you ever want a site. Make sure that you put private and by invitation only. Then when anyone comes to ask you to add them. Go to their site and check out who they are friends with, and read their profiles. I am now doing this before allowing anyone on my site, and if there is a new person that I don'y know, and they have maybe one friend. Then I keep them in my hold space until I really check them out. I also can just like OXsana (Uncharmed) learn who they are as their main site pictures will give them away.
That's how I found out who uncharmed was to even Zebra.
The breadcrumbs that uncharmed was dropping was enough to expose her, and she knows it. I then deleted her from my site, and she came right back here to say that my account was now gone, but in fact it's not gone just she is.
When you delete a friend their picture of you on their site will say deleted. That's also why she came back here to say that my page is now deleted too.
It was her message though about the dolphins to the ocean as she's the only one that works on myspace by putting all of her pictures in the ocean working with these dolphins. That's how I knew who she was. She gave herself away and as for my real friends there.
I am though having such a wonderful time in fellowship with so many wonderful people there.
Tonight though a new guy wanted me to add him, and when I clicked on his picture. It was then that I saw so many horror pictures to the messages that doesn't uplift, but brings you down. So I deleted his request ASAP.
Yes there are some really bad things there just like anywhere, but I jjst scan through them all before I accept them.

May God bless you hfl, and I also have my site now where every comment must be accepted by me first. So nothing is posted unless I accept it I like having that control over my site.
It took me a few days to figure the site out, but am now doing good with it.

Have a wonderful evening
Wingsy
and again I understand, and appreaciate your response.
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zebra
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Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 1:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wingsaglow:

In your above post # 488, you stated the following, "That's how I found out who uncharmed was to even Zebra." Now that is an interesting statement on your part. Please tell all of us who Zebra is? I want to see how intelligent you really are. (smile)

As a matter of fact some of the girls from the paid chat site have been trying to find that out for a long time. Some have purchased software to try and trace who Zebra is. Some have relatives they have contacted to see if they can assist
them in discovering who Zebra is. Some have contacted FN to try and get the information from them. Some have tried to follow IP's in order to get that information. To no avail. Perhaps, you are more intelligent than all the rest. Please display your great intelligence and reveal who Zebra really is. I await your answer.

Perhaps, Hope_faith_and_love can dream up an answer for you.

Zebra
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I WILL NOT RISE TO YOUR BAIT?
That's what you live for. You are the author of confusion and you allow Satan to use you as his author here.
You need to repent before God for being a tare of the wheat. Yes I know you and yes I know uncharmed. You both been fake not only with your names, but also with your intentions.

There is your answer zebra, and unlike you my color stays the same, and is not striped with being fake.

God will expose you zebra, and your stripes will be then known for who you really are.

wingsy
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hope_faith_and_love
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Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

zebra,

The same things have been happening to me! People {the imposters and pretenders that work to cause trouble for the members of the paid chat site and Carman} have purchased software to try and trace who hope, faith and love is. Some have relatives they have contacted to see if they can assist them in discovering who hope, faith and love is. Some have contacted FN to try and get the information from them. Some have tried to follow IP's in order to get that information. Some have even threatened hope, faith and love. Some have been watching hope, faith and love comings and goings. Does this make zebra and hope, faith and love and Carman birds of a feather? Never! One is a chicken (you), one is but a dove (me), and one is an eagle (Carman, because he is braver than either you or I who hide behind our usernames! Even wingsy is braver than both of us.... How does this make you feel as a man.... or a woman... to know the woman you scorn is more than you will ever be. Unlike you I know that one day God will reveal my name, I've always known this, it's just that Satan wants to make it happen before God's timing. But you, and those in your "flock" will not want this.) Just be glad that wingsy chooses to be a member of the geese family and not a chicken-hawk. Maybe that's why you keep looking over your feathered shoulder to see where she is... I don't know what your name is. It could be "Foghorn Leghorn" for all I know... "Ah say, Ah say!" You are indeed a chicken with no fear of being plucked and fried, so you're arrogant and like to make noice and bully others. But, unlike the cartoon, you do not have Foghorns likability, and ingenuity and flare for pranks. "Ah say, Ah say," even with this you are little more than a bogus imposter! The same is true for the others in your "loony camp" of cooperatives-- "Foxy Loxy", "Dawg", "Egghead Jr." and last but not least "Miss Prissy". You're all spurious imposters with nothing humorous or charming about your behaviors!

You want me to tell who you are.... weeks ago after reading the origin of the word zebra, I began then believing that calling yourself zebra was most fitting. Please don't change a thing, it suits you.
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zebra
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Hope_faith_and_love:

Your confusing even when your angry. (smile)

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Wingsaglow:

Are you and Hope_faith_and_love related in any way? You sound so much alike.

I ask the both of you. Why are you so angry? Please try and settle down. It's not good for the heart when one continues in anger.

Zebra
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hooper4evr
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Zebra U dont get it do you? Bad things will happen to you if you keep doing what youre doing. God will not let it continue to go on and on. Think about what it does to Christian people. U have been warned.
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kookie77777
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ZEBRA ARE U RELATED TO UNCHARMED?? U BOTH SOUND SO MUCH ALIKE. WHY ARE U SO ANGRY WITH CARMAN AND VADA?? IT'S NOT GOOD FOR UR HEART? I ASK BOTH OF U THIS QUESTION...
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zebra
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Hooper4evr:

Thank you for your concern for the Kingdom. I totally agree that we all should be very careful in what we say and do. This leads me to a question. Please answer this question before (bad things happen to me).

My question is this. Are you a member or have you been a member of the paid chat site? If you answer this question for me I believe it may shed some light on why you post the things you do.

Zebra
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wingsaglow
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Again Zebra you ask all of the questions, but when any of us have asked you questions you turn it around and bait us. This again shows that Saton is the Author of confusion, and so if the shoe fits then you are wearing it, and I for one rebuke you zebra! It's not an anger that will hurt my heart, but it is a righteuos and holy anger against the enemy of darkness that does not live in the light.
For if you lived in the light then the light would not gossip, nor bait others with wicked behavior in attacks, but would be in spirit and in truth Godly. As for being related to hfl no I am not related by the flesh of man, but by the blood of the lamb. In Christ yes we are related, because we are standing up for a ministry that you are still trying to attack.
Thank you hooper, and thank you hfl
Oh and Z I am also not in the chat site, but I will still stand hand in hand with those who are. They know what the real meaning is of being a friend, and not a fake.....
Stop baiting Christians to answer to you when you can't even answer all of our questions.

Saton is an Author of confusion, and you are really here helping him write the book.

wingsy
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uncharmed
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Duh Tah Duh.

Blah Blah saton Blah.

When you stand praying, forgive those who have offended you or God will not forgive you.

If you are not praying God's real and perfect will and if it isn't a prayer that Jesus' Name can be over then you are praying out of yourself and you are being out of order. There are pastors who are praying and they are causing demonic assignments and oppressions if they believe it or not, because they are not really hearing from God or praying His will. They don't have the right to pray about people that are not in their churches like they are. It is a misuse of imagined power too.

Hooper why did the really bad things happen to Carman that did? Winks had bad things happen to her in her business and her husband so so so bad. So did Vada.

Why are you so superstitious and what is Zebra doing that is so bad besides not being a blind fan of Carman's? When Jesus was reviled the Bible shows, He did not threaten.

Why don't you bless Zebra and rebuke Winks?

Winks is no one's authority and she is acting uppity because she is taping a kids puppet show for local cable. Uh duh, is that someone to be listened to? If you had any discernment you would not be very comfortable with Winkie Sweetie.
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zebra
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Wingsaglow:

In your above post # 497, you used the word "Saton." Would you do me the honor of telling me who that might be. Thank you.

In the same post # 497 you stated the following," Oh and Z I am also not in the chat site, but I will still stand hand in hand with those who are. They know what the real meaning is of being a friend, and not a fake....."
No, Darlene, you aren't in the paid chat site but you are the topic in many of their conversations.

As far as your rebuke, it means nothing to me. One must have Godly authority in order to rebuke. You have none. I do not know your heart but from your conversation you are only a babe in Christ, if at all. You appear to be a "fish out of water." With all due respect, you are in "way over your head"} and it definitely shows.

Zebra
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Again you bait with questions yet never answer them yourself. This also shows just how far over your head that you are.
As for being in the conversations then you are a fake there too?
When you then bring the gossip here from his chat site. That in itself is a sickness z, and then to ask me another question?
Well as you are helping him write the book on confusion I'll leave that answer in your head. You already knew the answer before you asked.
I will not answer your baiting questions when the inner core is a sickness in gossip and sin.
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uncharmed
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Zebra is so much more together spiritually and psychologically than you sweetie. You are the one who will NEVER ANSWER ANY RATIONAL OR CHRISTIAN QUESTIONS. You are one of those people who go around in circles until you think the other person gives up. What you really are is someone who looks and sounds controlling and stupid. You act just like immature puffed up addict types and like a queen of something when you are not even in the Court.

You are gossiping when you call someone a wanna be wife. Too bad you don't know what people really say and think of you and that you imagine that its all good and that everyone should listen to you. Woww even obey you too.
Uh no. Duh!

Zebra's posts make total sense and yours are like your best friend, kooky.
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No I'm not the one who claims to be a woman one minute and then Carman the next. So if anyone is going loopy around in circles it's you. You just can't figure out which sex you are, and that sounds really stupid and immature. As for gossip no I'll leave that up to you. Why you're a pro at it by now.
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uncharmed
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Its because you have no sex that you are up so late every night and that you pursue Carman and think about him everyday. Its because you have no sex life that you are a busy body meddling in the lives and the feelings of people who have known him or they wish they could. Its because you have no sex, that you are so mean and uptight. You are so intrusive because you a person with no healthy marital sex. Leave Carman alone his life is just not any of your business and you are so so so intruding and molesting.

Carman should be warned.
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Ah and here you are again a female? You really have this sex on the brain bad don't you?
I do hope that your fiance is your best friend, and that you are not basing your whole relationship on just sex. Again what a big let down. I also don't pursue Carman just because I stand up for Vada, and myself here. GEESH! He's not even on my friends site go figure.
I also am only mean when I am being attacked by a mixed up fe-male who doesn't even know who she is.

That is very sad. So do you get these feelings often that you are actually Carman? Or are a woman with your Godly man and only change into Carman at night?
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You again? Don't you have a bedtime?

Can't talk to us without putting Carman and Vada in the same sentence with you. Little strange isn't it? Does Carman know that you keep posting about him and that you talk with people privately who are angry with him?

Yes, I often dress up like Carman and even shave a little bald patch on the back of my head. I call my mom like 50 times a day and try to walk and talk like George Clooney on Mondays. Then on Tuesdays I dress like Dean Martin and on Wed I dress like and talk like Sean Connery. Thats when I take my mom out for dinner and we both dress up to the nines. On some days I dress up like CSI cast members and try to act really cool and so so so scientific and all. Saturdays I reserve those for Elvis dressing. Sundays I like to do Steve Martin or someone new that hasn't come out as a gay guy yet. My fiance picks out all of the clothes for me and sometimes he dresses up like Patty or Jan.

Its hard being me and all of them. But it keeps me so so busy. My mom likes it a lot. Vada doesn't know about it and I like to keep that way so you won't tell her will you? Duh you would never do that would you?

I better spend some time with the Lord right now because I am obviously in need of some serious help and repenting. Thank you for telling me how sad my situation is. Yours is wonderful and you are the greatest example or inspiration I have ever seen or heard.
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Now that was so nice thank you uncharmed. I also bring them into the picture, because they have been so attacked here on a daily basis.
I don't know Carman, but I do know Vada and she is a doll, and my friend.
So while your on your knees why not say a special I'm sorry for gossiping about Vada, to his Mother, and Carman, and even to my family. It doesn't matter to me if you even include me, but you know what uncharmed? I have for you many times.
I may not be perfect, but we are all human we all slip up and to gossip about people here on this public forum is a sin.
So to cast all of your cares on God is to then also make things right.

So I'm sorry for teasing you about being Carman, even though you did tell me you were him. Now can you also say you are sorry to Vada, Carman, and his Mother? See I didn't even ask you to say sorry back to me, but to accept a wrong is to then make it right.
Then a peace will come for doing God's will
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uncharmed
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You can't speak for any of those people. You are not in the same league as Carman. I mean me, sorry.

I love you and wish that I would have married you before he did. If only you and me and my mom and Vada who really is her best friend could go on cruises to Hawaii together and the chat room could like pay for it and get a tax deduction.If only. But you are stuck staying up nights only communing with me and holding on to me by web sites and discussion boards. I will always love you for that and I write your name over and over in my journal at night. You are the person I most want to meet. Thank you for defending me. How would my ministry survive without you and you alone. I am so indebted to you. But most of all I am attracted. Thank you for running interference with the mother daughter fruitcakes and crazy people like oxanna. You are irreplaceable. Vada speaks of you to me often and I wrote a secret song about you too Darling Dar.

I am so so handsome and so intelligent that is why you and I belong together my sweet. Always put your name next to mine in as many public places as possible.

Goodnight my dearest love and thank you too for staying up late at night and meeting with me this way. C
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HA!HA!HA! Oh my and now that you are a man again what will you fiance say on your wedding night.

You are really a hoot, a little mixed up on your gender, but still a hoot.
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wingsaglow
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Goodnight uncharmed, maybe by morning you will see what gender you really are, but thanks for busting my gut laughing out loud pranks, but it still doesn't work.

Carman would not say the things that you have here, nor would he attack Vada, to even his Mother. So you see I don't fall for games, but I do know of some really good places to eat on davie street in Vancouver, BC where all the cross genders hangs out at.
I went there one day and thought that it looked like a great place to eat, and the this gorgious lady came to serve me. At first I thought wow what was a really tall model type lady works here instead of modeling? Well that was when the guy at the next table saw my face and leaned over to enlighten me that it was a man.
So hey uncharmed what ever rocks your boat, but please stop sending me love messages. That is way off in some other la,la land and isn't normal or right. It did however give me a good laugh though. You should however practice those exact same lines on your man though, because your good at it. I mean at playing the male role.

Thanks
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zebra
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 4:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hooper4evr:

In Zebras above post # 245, he asked if you were a member or ever was a member of the paid chat site. I can see by your non-response that you have answered the question. You are not unlike the girls from the paid chat site and some of the other supporters. They never really answer the questions. Most of the supporters of the Clan are female, with few exceptions. However, I believe that you are one of those exceptions. The way in which you express yourself tends to give that away.

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Uncharmed:

Thank you for any and all of the kind things you have said about me or to me. I do believe you have hit on a part of the problem that many of the supporters of C have, especially the girls from the paid chat site. In your above post # 212, you wrote the following, "Its because you have no sex life that you are a busy body meddling in the lives and the feelings of people who have known him or they wish they could." Perhaps, many of the girls feel they have missed out on life because they have not been able to share themselves with another. Perhaps, they feel they have failed because of that. Perhaps, they are trying to fill that void they believe they have by pursuing a dream they have had. You may have hit on a part of the problem that many of the Clam members have.

Zebra
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wingsaglow
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OH Zebra, and you are just as messed up as she/he is. What is it about the sex, sex, sex talk are you related to DR. Ruth? GEESH! Do any of you who are married, and I do mean married to the bone.... ever base your mariage to just sex?
Please give me a break. I married my very best friend and we don't have to have sex to love each other. See hwta I mean we have a whole lot of other things in common that keeps us having a blast.
Zebra, and uncharmed because you talk about it so much. I do believe that it is both of you who desire it, you want it so bad that you can't talk about anything else. You live for being bale to have it, but you haven't got a partner yet to experiounce it. HMMM then when the reality of it wears off. Then what will you have in common?
As for being abusy body no I'll leave that up to both of you who live in the nasty gossip of others lives, because you don't have one.
I for one do and will continue to stand up for my friend. Do you know what that word really means? HMMM I'm sure you do, but your meaning of the word and mine is very different. Mine means to stand up for my friends who are always being put down. A real friend regardless of being human and not perfect is still a best friend. there in is a huge difference.
Uncharmed/Zebra stop being drawn in all the time with Carman, to what or who he's with big deal. I really pray that he finds the most gorgeous babe and marrys her quickly. So that the rest of these wanna be wifes can then move on. I will still be a friend to the ministry, and to my friend Vada. Even if she wasn't working for him she would still be my friend. So you see it's not about who she works for it's about how many ladies that she has ministered too that has come back to Christ.

Please get a life and leave the sex talk to your own bedrooms. As for me I haven't ever missed out on life, and I do have my man that I share more than a bedroom with, and that is called friendship first.

Wingsy
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hope_faith_and_love
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A few days ago God had me to write a post directed to zebra. It was written with humor. After writing a second post, I visited Carman's myspace and for that instant there was such a different spirit there as Christians were edifying, and I longed to be part of this and no longer part of factnet and so I began to doubt what God had me to write*. I deleted the last post I had written and gave into feeling remorseful for the other one. I knew God had me to write these posts, yet I couldn't believe. Recently God had me to write on factnet what He told me that whatever people used to accuse me or trap me with He would use to teach His truth. I was uncertain these two posts did this. So I began to doubt, then God reminded me of the scripture someone had posted on their profile that promises us that "no weapon forged against you shall prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and this is their vindication from me, declares the Lord." Isaiah 54:17. God said that what zebra does with quips and quibbles) are weapons to detract from the truth He is revealing. The posts by no no are done for the same reason. "No no" posts spoke of love, for the same reasons those who judge bring up not judging. They use the teachings of Jesus Christ to form a weapon against what God is doing to purge this duplicity from among us as He prepares us. God had me to write that these people are like Satan who only uses the truth Jesus taught us as a weapon to deceive and to thwart what God is doing through His servants. This has been a weapon Satan has used against me so many times and each time God would keep pressing me to keep speaking what He wanted me to but I would be caught in this trap and struggled to do this. Early on it was a trap with my mother. My mother disagreed with what God had me to do and so I was having difficulty going against her and obeying God. I was literally being torn apart by my faith to obey God in all things and God seemed to be deliberately having me to go against my mother and what I was taught. It was constant arguing and I was repeatedly being told that Satan "also appears as an angel of light" and that I was being deceived because God said to "honor thy father and thy mother. And I was trapped, unable to trust God and obey him. That is what no no's posts did. And it seemed that everywhere I turned it seemed like this was the message--- peace and love. I know this feeling of peace and love but felt I was was going against this, then couple it with the fear of what other Christians who "wrote" these reminders would think of me, was all that was needed to trap me and make me once again resist God..... But this morning God began reminding me of what He taught me with my mother and I felt Him freeing me of the trap I was in. "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn '"a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--- a man's enemies will be the members of his own household."' Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." So when uncharmed accuses me of not having a life by being here, it is because I lost my life for His sake!
*(NOTE shortly after this there seemed to be those who came to spread darkness. But God reminds me the more of those whose "light is true" comes the effects of darkness will be dispelled.)
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hope_faith_and_love
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In the above post God had me to use humor was how God chose to deal with the weapons zebra "forges".... below is something God had me to write but because I was struggling, He did not have me to post it until now. Zebra is back and saying such horrible things about women who support Carman.... here is what God told me to stop your fiery arrows from harming me.... In Isaiah 54:16, God tells us, "See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and gorges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to work havoc;"... In other words zebra, it was God who created Satan, who is behind every technic with words you come up with to accuse us with....

zebra,

You stated that you hate even sharing the same planet with me or maybe it was you hated being part of the same human race as me... So I must ask, is this also how you feel about the "members of the paid chat site"? Do you feel this same kind of hostility toward them that you cannot bear sharing this big ball of blue planet we live on with them as well? Or, that you can no longer remain being part of the human race as long as they were part of it? Is this why you decided to become a zebra??? Is it possible, that for the first time I am fully understanding you and why you have all this anger toward us... Well, I kinda know why I tick you off... but wasn't certain about the members of the paid chat site... Is your resentment toward them because you believe Carman spends too much time with them and not any with you? Do you feel that if only you could just get rid of them you could then have Carman all to yourself??? Zebra, since your friends on factnet won't tell you, I feel I must, you must let go of this insane need of yours to drive everyone from the human race away from Carman-- at least the women. Destroying his ministry so he will have to spend more time with you is not the way to make Carman love you. Don't you see? It's also time you face the truth, you're a zebra, not even a real woman... and Carman is a man and can never love you the way that you want. Don't be hurt, remember there are other fish in the sea--- not dolphins, because dolphins are not fish, so never ever mistake them as being fish or uncharmed will be offended--- but it is not a fish you want, it is another zebra.... try george, he is astounding....and he has only alledged he is married, do a background check to see if this is true or false, as you would any zebra you would want to settle down with....and if what george says is true after a thorough background check and he is married, then run, run like the wind and feel it blow through your mane and tail... wait, do zebra's have tails.... never mind looking, just run, run and while you are running maybe another zebra will come along galloping and find you... who knows maybe he will be a stallion... oh wait a minute, is this why you became interested in Carman because you heard of the Italian Stallion... Sorry to have to tell you this, but that's another Italian and a man also... this just isn't your day. But don't feel too bad, after all you are only a zebra and you couldn't possibly have known. I know this is all coming as a shock to you, but after all this wasted time don't get mad at your own foolish, foolish romantic zebra heart, just next time do a more thorough background check to make certain that you find another zebra to fall so madly in love with, okay! Life is too short and zebra's love too deeply to ever let this kind of mistake happen to them again! Promise yourself, next time to do a thorough background check and make certain he has stripes... and four legs... then you two can settle down and have little baby zeeblettes...(smile) I know I am....


(Message edited by hope_faith_and_love on December 23, 2006)
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no_no
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HopeFaithLove,
You seem to be so determined to not feel or appear weak in any way that you are finding various meaningful-to-you-mechanics to sound more enlarged. Italics and red letters and the abosolute condemnation of others. Try mixing that all up with "your call from God" bomb and then you really have the others by the tail.

You truly feel and sound as though you are psychologically ill and spiritually misleading.

Mr. Stallone took back the ground that Carman seems to have taken from him in the first place and the film is photographed with some of the same angles and ideas so as to get his creative material back where it belongs. It belongs to him. It is surprising he didn't sue Carman for the Champion movie. His goal in this new film about Rocky, is to present the value system and heart of Jesus. How he went about it, and if it has some compromise or sin, then he will have to be told about that kindly. However, his premise in making this film was to make a difference and not to just make an empty film. Carman should have made a different type of movie altogether and should have had much higher standards and morals over all.

My husband is a professional critic and a well known and admired man, and the only critisism I could have for Carman aside from some moral questions that have been raised, is this type of thing. My husband is not saved yet, but he will be. He can be very objective about things that Christians do because he is not being loyal for the sake of being seen as non argumentative.

Can I ask you a simple question? Isn't Zebra a man and a former pastor or a minister? You seem to be off kilter in most of your conclusions. It hurts to see you all hating and accusing because I struggle to be a strong and open Christian sometimes in a very secular home and business world. Some of you had the opportunity to minister to me and perhaps to my husband. That will never happen because you are so self-centered, angry and unchristian.


Love one another.
Prefer others above your "selves" in love.
As much as is possible, be at peace with all people.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Let your gentleness be known to all men.
Bless and do not curse.

Satan is the accuser of the brethren.
Love covers a multitude of sins.
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hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love

Post Number: 413
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 4:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no no wrote---Can I ask you a simple question? Isn't Zebra a man and a former pastor or a minister?
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zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra

Post Number: 181
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.167.46.120
Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:48 am
"To George: I do believe we are brothers and sisters in Christ. Please keep posting the truth. Perhaps, some of those who are misguided will find their way.

Zebra"

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Unless you know that george is not a man, then this would leave us to believe that zebra is the sister i.e. a woman.

No no, why do want to convey that you know the word of God so well that you know I am wrong, and use a claim you came here to be ministered to and I failed to minister to you? Are you not practicing deception? Why are you focused on Carman's imperfections if it is God's perfection you are seeking? It is only the Holy Spirit that can draw us to Him. God uses ministers such as Carman to reach the lost. The movie you oppose, God used to touch others. Are you saying that because of you and your husband that Carman should not have done it, but done something else? You are implying that you knowingly are refusing to accept Jesus Christ unless Carman does something you approve of.... Is the hardening of your heart so vehemently against one movie not you putting your own "self" above others who God would minister to throught this movie? You sound too much like others and this is just another lie to sow seeds against Carman. God spoke to me earlier today about how false prophets become false, because He has been revealing the "wolf" characteristics in those who are not "yet" teachers, preachers, or prophets.... God said that some never followed His Spirit but followed after the spurious spirit. God said because these were never able to acknowledge truth, they follow the lies of the spurious spirit.... therefore, these people will always be so angered by those who are working in the Holy Spirit that they rise up to oppose them using whatever means they can. They begin to sway people away from what God is saying through these ministers-- focusing people's attention on their faults, while their own evil ways go unnoticed.

Your posts only support what God has had me to write. It was God who made me believe in the first place that your first post revealed you were not here to stop the arguing, but just to stop what He had me to write. Then by your posts today you have proven what He told me was correct. I will continue to follow His voice and write what He has me to write. Your entire post above is a snare. (I know people think I am being redundant, but God wants those who are His to recognize all the ways of those that are false work to deceive and trick.)

No no, if, indeed you have a husband who is not born again, then may he, unlike you, choose the Holy Spirit to follow. And if he does, then he will discover that he is married to Jezebel who will hate him. Then He will learn what God has me to write is true and be grateful for what God is doing. If you are seeking God, then God brought you here to open your eyes, if you choose to remain blind, then God brought you here to use as an example of those who did not follow the Holy Spirit--- but ultimately it is your choice.
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no_no
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Username: no_no

Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your accusations are mentally ill and spiritually wicked. I am not Jezebel and you say that in your conclusion to me, because it is a projected reality about you. Each sentence in your last paragraph is something you should read and speak to yourself as it assuredly applies to you wholly. You are blind and you are a hater.

You are not "here" to judge me and to figure out why I am posting or what my real intentions are. Do you read the Book of Romans? God has never spoken to you about me. You are most assuredly focusing other's attention on the supposed faults to keep yourself from seeing your own evil ways.

My posts don't support you in any way. It is not an absence of peace to contradict an abuser or a liar. You attacked and accused me and called me all kinds of names from Jezebel to a false prophet. That is because those things are true of you. You just copy the vocabulary and the styling of other writers to gain a small sense of empowerment and it is sad and manipulative.

I haven't sown any seeds against Carman. You sow seeds against others freely and that is why I doubt that your salvation is genuine. You are religious that is undoubtable, but saved with the fruit of the Spirit of Christ, doubtable.

God is not speaking to you. It is clearly evident by your fruit, lack of love and violent arrogance. This is your only stage in life isn't it. It is the epitomy of self aggrandizing spiritually to place your voice in the role of God's. You do not wound to heal or confront to help and you center the outcome of your efforts to garner attention and focus on yourself and that is not christian. Paul said, It is not I that lives, but He who lives in me. He taught to die to self and to put others first.

I think that one of the only ways to "be at peace with you", is to not involve oneself with you.

Your sense of peace is based in believing you are called by God to write here, that you are an authority over others and that one must have your vision of Carman to be right with God. There is no peace in my walk and my understanding of Jesus in those three foundations.

Stop accusing others madame. Focus on your own faults and the Jezebel witchcraft in your own spirit and false proclamations of being sent by and authoring for God. You are in no way over me or my spiritual counsel and you have no right to condemn and to judge. You are attempting to "sway" others to your ill will and your dictates about Carman. It does not seem possible that he would agree with you in your modality and your vanity. He is a real christian and you are something else.




*Would you please be forthcoming and place the name of your church and
your pastor on the board so that we may contact him and weigh your actions and words under a true authority?
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lampost
Junior Member
Username: lampost

Post Number: 49
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 164.111.22.127
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Wingsy!

Well, we did it. Hubby and I renewed our vows and we went to Orlando. I said hi to Mickey for you like you asked me too! He and Minnie are doing well, I might add. They have been together for a loooong time now!

Gee what has happened in here?? It feels like i just walked into a food fight. Is your face on a dart board??? LOL

The internet is a strange thing huh? I bet if we were all together at a ladies tea that the church was hosting we would all be acting rather different huh? Does that mean we would be acting fake at the tea, or are we fake here? Would we talk to each other like this or would we show gentleness, kindness, goodness and self-control? Would we smile at each other's face and go home and talk trash in the car on the way home about everyone who was there?

Well there are a lot of new "faces" in here since I was here last. But, anyhow, I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and God bless us everyone!
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wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow

Post Number: 531
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah my face is on a dart board, and that's why I'm feeling so Holy.....
I'm so happy for you and your husband, and that's also why I respond to my real friends on myspace. I keep my site there private where I get to screen my friends, and then if anything is gossiped about here... Then I know who it is and I delete them asap.
I have now put a face to many of the real fakes here, and their only mission which is to try and get anything on me or my friends from there to post it here.
With people like that if I was face to face they would not be speaking to me. Their too stuck up and feel that they are perfect with no mistakes.
While I would be on the other side of the tea party handing out crumpets, and having a party with the real people who love to laugh and have a good time.
I for one have never hid in here and have always had my real name sprayed everywhere that these fakes want to spread it. LOL!
So I don't have anything to hide like they do. What they see is what I am and if they don't like me then Boo, Hoo.

Thanks for the smile Lampost.
See ya in the myspace site where real friends like you my friend can fellowship with me, and uplift each other with a good time.

Wingsy
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no_no
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Username: no_no

Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 72.130.100.144
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 6:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Paranoid and self inflated aren't you?
Does Jesus teach you to love your friends who see things your way and share your compromises, or to love anyone, all of the brethren, with his love?

You are lying again by saying that you have never hid. You have hid here others have exposed you it is plainly seen in the posts, and there have been angry discussions and exposures over it.

You are hiding by making an open myspace as you were confronted about, into a private one and making excuses and victim statements. You don't have to accept others as friends on myspace, or their comments there, so you are hiding, because you have things to hide.

(I'm so sorry, other than your bottom and thighs.)

Is it about you and your friends and you you and then you once more, or is it about loving and being kind to others? One moment you are spouting off preaching that you are there to witness Christ to people and then you do and say all of these things. If "what they see is what you am and boo hoo to them", then why hide your myspace? Odd contradiction Wingsaglow.

Your reason for starting that space was for public attention. Can't you communicate to your 'friends' via regular email or by phone?
You are assuredly a real liar. God can forgive you and give you the grace and strength and perhaps the chastening you need to change.

My husband does not have a myspace and either do I, we are more professional than that and are not teens or lonely people who don't have a life. Or people who are looking to garner attention and are willing to lie online to get it.

There is something wrong in your life and something empty or you would not justify yourself and advertise yourself as you do.
You also would not be online 24/7 and need a myspace to find friends and then keep a private raport going with them about yourself.

Gosh I hope and pray that you have a Happy New Year and a better character this coming 07.
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wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow

Post Number: 532
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Instead of always judging my character here which I could say the same thing about you too. Why are you always here tearing down everyone? Do you also have real friends that you can email and phone instead of being here attacking me to HFL, and others?
As for going private it's becuse of people like you who now can't achieve getting any more sick gossip. You live for my site and my life don't you? You're just not fullfilled in your own life that must be it. That's why you have always got to put others down, because you really don't have a life of your own.
I'm happy that you don't have a myspace account so if you don't have one then what's your real purpose in always going there?
Is it to see what I'm doing?
Or are you still trying to see what Carman, to Vada's doing?
So what's your real reason for going to a site that you have no part of if indeed it isn't to still try to find more gossip to feed your sin?

So I can also say the same back to you: Gosh I hope and pray that you have a Happy New Year and a better character this coming 07.

Because what you are in fact really doing is a big NO_NO

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