| Author | Message | ||
     praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 691 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Hi Folks, I am reposting the last two posts from another thread - 'If Not Homestead Heritage, Then What?' - as the beginning of a new thread with a subject that matches the topic. Some changes to the two posts. Integrity first. ========== Forever_his, the deceptive little aside along with the 'death covenant' phrase on a recent post is a transparent ruse. Even Mrs. Alvear makes that clear below. For you to still support the sick blasphemy on this flimsy nonsense basis shows that you actually support the acrid lie. Please, stop playing games. It is amazing, we both know that it is an acrid lie and yet you still support it simply for politics. You even defacto acknowledge as much, that you won't speak the truth because the blasphemy comes from your ally against HH. You should hang your head in shame .. more importantly seek Godly sorrow and repentance. This sick blasphemy accusation is the defining issue of the forum. It continues to show the heart of the oppositionalists more than anything. Deeply, truly .. I wish that were not the case .. that the oppositionalists had some honesty and integrity and spiritual forthrightness, apparently not. Their defense of sick blasphemy is shutting the doors. Look above on S_G going haywire with his own impotent 'rebuke' against holiness and integrity. Amazing. More leaden words falling to the ground, a stench in the nostrils of God. And look at the big deception of Mrs. Alvear above .. now she claims she got the phrase from somebody else in HH. Oy vey is mir. Her confusion grows as she repeats the blasphemous lie. Every one of you who has been active in HH knows she is deceiving herself and others on this and you have a spiritual obligation to correct her, one which you decline only in rebellion. The woman has twisted herself into a knot, she is bound in the iniquity of the brujeria 'pacto de morte' phrase, and she is trapped in her own demonic deception projection of the brujeria/suicide/murder concept. Again, if you have any doubt ask folks from the Caribbean and Latin cultures .. they know even if you pretend not to. You know though, please stop playing stupid. Those of you who are married, do you turn to your spouse and say lovingly - "oh, I am so happy we joined together in a death covenant" ? God forbid ! Be real and stop playing the readers here for fools. All but the anti-HH political ideologues here have some common sense. For about a month or two Mrs. Alvear was almost free, at least on the forum, after the two apologies from oppositionalists acted as a check on her tongue. And yet now the demonic phrase rolls off her tongue again and again and again. This is truly sick and cries out for help from EVERYBODY - those who are sympathetic or opposed to HH, or neutral, or anything. The woman is truly spiritually sick when she speaks such warped words and it is very possible she will remain that way until some of you show some integrity. Such a spiritual sickness risks being a sickness unto death. And some of you have it in your hands to assist and yet you refuse as it is more important for you to play anti-HH politics. Truly an abomination. We have seen that truth and integrity is not possible with the gang of three - The 'death covenant' supporters. Mrs. Alvear Robin Seeking_Glory Is there one here on this forum in opposition to HH who does speak and act with integrity ? (Perhaps Under_grace, since he offered a proper and sincere apology - perhaps this does concern him, he has been quiet since, so no full assumption should be made .. any others ?) Did you lose all holiness and integrity when you left HH ? Is this why you left HH? The allure of dark forces and blasphemous demonic lies ? I certainly hope not but the question is asked based on what we see here. (continues) (Message edited by praxaluh on December 09, 2006) | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 692 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Notice that Mrs. Alvear is even brazenly acknowledging that she is trying to accuse HH of a murder/death pact, not anything at all related to a covenant-community of faith. Her own words, even when she knows many are watching, prove out the current wickedness of her tongue. "the word death covenant does not mean they will shoot you with a gun...there are many ways to kill a person..." NOW .. will any of you show any integrity ? Will you still stand up here and make the insipid claim, give us an obvious lie, that Mrs. Alvear is really only trying to use an alternate phrase to the marriage covenant - the 'death do us part' life-long covenant of dedication and love ? Is there one voice of honesty here among the oppositionals ? Mrs. Alvear has declared that she is loosed from her husband's oversight of her words here. And clearly the people in Brazil are being poisoned by her words so the attempt of Robin above to offload responsibility is simply Robin's rebellion against God. The peer group that have the responsibility to help this woman is here, on this forum .. now. You who are aware and knowledgeable, all who have been close to HH, are culpable. With your support of blasphemy, or even just silence or evasion, you have spiritual blood on your hands. Yet some can still be watchmen on the walls and speak truthful and clear words, painful as it may seem at first. Even if it is not 'politically correct', it is the only path to the peaceable fruits of righteousness. There is no doubt at all .. this is the defining issue of the forum. The hour is late. Every other discussion is will of the wisp wind, vapid nothings, hot air .. till this is addressed directly, fully, lovingly, properly. Yours in Jesus name, Praxaluh | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 694 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
One note to add. Even to talk about this twisted phrase is difficult. Some friends I might ask not to read this thread even if they follow the forum, or they might bypass any posts with or about the sick blasphemy. The pet phrase of Mrs. Alvear is so sick - but this issue must be raised, here and now, because truth and integrity comes first, and even ones eternal destiny can be on the line. How does the God of all creation, the Lord Jesus Christ, look upon sick blasphemies ? Do we even have to ask ? Shalom, Praxaluh | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1459 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 201.82.95.82 |
Prax...you dig your own grave with your evil twisted words...You judge what you do not even know... The readers will judge between my spirit and yours...so let it be written so let it be done... | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 697 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
True, Mrs. Alvear. Your dark, evil words of 'death covenant' are written .. again and again .. and they are judged. For once I agree with a few of your words. Shalom, Praxaluh | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 712 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Greetings. A follow-up. This can be the main and summary thread, as it has the true subject matter thread-name. In the last three days we have .. Mrs. Alvear again affirmed, as above, that she is trying to accuse HH of murder/killing in some way by using the sick blasphemy. That is her goal and purpose, that is the darkness of her heart, that is the source of the viper-phrase that rolls off her tongue. She makes that very clear again and again. And Mrs. Alvear even added a new absurd lie on the 'Repent' thread - http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/26695.html?1165883337 That marriage covenants are called 'death covenant' (pacto de muerte) in Latin culture. Amazing. Anybody (if necessary with a little help from a Spanish or Portugeese speaker) can see that this is only a fabrication, a cover story, a lie. Tacky. This is well-known, on the thread I gave a couple of examples, anyone can easily find dozens. Then Mrs. Alvear still tries to claim that she is only using HH terminology. Something she 'heard' in passing a long time ago. Or misheard, similar to how she even now lies about the meaning and usage of the phrase in Spanish and Portuguese culture today. We probably have a dozen or so former members of HH posting here and every one, if they were honest, would affirm 100% that is not a HH phrase or concept. Yet they remain silent. (Exception: Under_grace defacto acknowledged this when he gracefully apologized for using the phrase. So far the only one not a hypocrite, however not an active poster.) The basic fact still remains: not one of the active oppositionalists has posted honestly, with integrity. That has not changed. Some slink into the background with the sin of silence, showing us their backing of the blasphemy. Worse, Robin (Forever_His) and 'Seeking_Glory' try to find excuses for the brujeria lingo, or come up with invective diversions. Thereby becoming strong supporters of sick blasphemy. ======== And, in closing, one note of integrity. Daniel on the thread - "Note to Old Watchman" Has very properly shared. "And don't think I am going to let you get distracted from the mesage that Prax has been so faithfully delivering to you. You address me, while all of Prax's points and admonitions go un-noted and disregarded. You need to deal with the sick demonic "death covenant" accusations you keep making. Soon." Amen. Thank you Daniel for commenting properly on the fundamental forum matter, the one that has become the clear line of demarcation, between - light and darkness truth and lies integrity and sick blasphemy. Shalom, Praxaluh | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 350 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.176.48.179 |
Steven, My integrity, which you deny I have, leads me to state: I don't personally remember hearing anyone at HH refer to their own covenant plainly as a "death covenant." What ML heard I can not deny nor confirm. Now, using integrity, can you please muster a statement that ML never said they were open devil worshipers and the other ways of “killing” she is talking about is HH statement to her to “kill the baby” (her ministry,) which could have the result of spiritual death for those she might in the future reach, and not physical death? (Message edited by foreverhis on December 12, 2006) | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 718 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Robin, even when you supposedly try to have integrity on this sick blasphemy, you flunk badly. Look at your word 'plainly' you use to qualify, along with your feigned ignorance. As if HH uses the sick blasphemy as their own term and idea 'unplainly' or in some vague background manner. Please, stop the nonsense. Speak truthfully. Say clearly at the very least: "In many years, I never heard such phrasing or teaching, and the obvious suicide/murder/brujeria sense of the phrase 'death covenant' simply does not fit their idea or reality of a Christian covenant-community. Even if I do not think they are right about covenant, I fully disassociate myself from such a misrepresentation." A little milquetoast, but it would be a help. You know enough to at least speak such words of integrity. Yet it seems impossible for you to do, you are so dug into defending the vile deception words. The term is a sick suicide-murder-occult term and even now you refuse to disassociate yourself. You are far worse than Mrs. Alvear, since you know full well from many years in HH that this terminology is not from them. Mrs. Alvear might claim confusion or forgetfulness or pressure - while you are without excuse. What a deceptive writer you are, it is a stench to read you trying every which way to find a way to defend her sick blasphemy. And you are so deceptive and cunning in your sin. You throw in the issue of 'kill the baby' when you know full well that has to do with issues about what we would put ahead of our service to God and nothing to do with a 'death covenant'. Many of us laid up our 'treasures' when we came to God, with trust and faith that God would lead and direct and cover and minister. However, you are simply mixing issues here as a cover story for Mrs. Alvear since she has lied repeatedly to justify the blasphemy. So you look anywhere to find a less flagrantly false cover story. Robin, even if you personally feel 100% that Mrs. Alvear is better not involved in HH you have no right before God to still support her acrid sick lying accusation of 'death covenant'. You are right, though. I know now clearer than before that you have no integrity. You prove it every day as the major 'death covenant' supporter of Mrs. Alvear. Working overtime to come up with excuses with your own slippery language attempts. Mrs. Alvear counts on you as her personal sophist (one skilled in ... devious argumentation) her verbal trickster. You are a bit like Lady Macbeth. Only here you are trying to clean the blood off the hands of Mrs. Alvear as well as your own. (continues) | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 719 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
To help you out, clearly I never claimed that Mrs. Alvear openly and blatantly accusers HH of being devil worshippers. Of course not. The trick of the deceiver is not to over-accuse, but instead to be crafty and cunning in language. (The Lord Jesus ran into that in the Temptation.) Mrs. Alvear couldn't get away with such a blatant false accusation, it would not fly, probably not even to you. Even Mrs. Alvear might recoil from such a direct accusation with a tinge of her remaining conscience, although this is unknown. So she just uses the sick brujeria lingo of 'death covenant' to plant such a seed of poison in the minds of the folks in Brazil and on Factnet. (This poison is especially designed for the Latin American countries where they know very clearly the meaning of 'pacto de muerte', without qualification or any of the sophistry fog you try to put up.) And Mrs. Alvear got away with it on Factnet for a long time and would like to keep the viper poison going to the folks in Latin America even when forced to give it up here by the ounce of integrity left among the oppositionalists, if such integrity ever arises. She can try to do that because she has Robin's assistance as the chief poison sanctioner and publicity flak. Integrity first. Shalom, Praxaluh | ||
| common_sense Advanced Member Username: common_sense Post Number: 952 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.135.39.150 |
2 Timothy 2:14 | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 723 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Shared from Common_Sense - (One of the posters who has lacked the ounce). 2 Timothy 2:14-17 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Although the context here was the eschatological beliefs of H & P, there is a good analogy to the canker of the words of sin that have been spoken and supported by the oppositionalists like 'Common_Sense'. Accusing of a 'death covenant'. Those sinful words clearly "eat at doth a canker". Though this aspect was not his purpose, I will thank Common_Sense for bringing this to the forum's attention. Shalom, Praxaluh (Message edited by praxaluh on December 13, 2006) | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 352 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 12.162.187.80 |
Prax, you read so much into so little. You are grasping for straws. By plainly I just meant the two words "death covenant" without the words "until" or "unto" or something else to qualify them. I already told you I am not some highly educated communicator. I promise you I meant nothing else by the word "plainly." You have judged our hearts and wrongly and accused us so many times of evil intent; God have mercy. | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1496 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.6.135 |
he just wants to fuss...pay no attention...he neither believes or lives like hh... | ||
| dowen Advanced Member Username: dowen Post Number: 795 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.153.236.230 |
ML, The only one fussing here is you. You constantly troll and flame in all the threads, leaving little one-liners designed to do little more than irritate and Prax and I, and cause HH the most grief possible. Take a look at all the HH threads. You have had the "final" word in nearly all of them. Nearly all of your "final word's" are snarky little pitchfork jabs at HH. It's really pathetic. Re-read the article I posted on trolling. It describes you perfectly. When you decided to part ways with HH, they let you go in peace. Why can't you offer the same civility to HH? | ||
| missionary_lady Senior Member Username: missionary_lady Post Number: 1497 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 200.147.111.197 |
They let me go in peace???LOL....Can't even have a relationship with my missionary mom...you call that peace? At any other normal church I could...but cults are like that...maybe you should study the word cult..Do you not know I know what they have said about me...not everyone in the inner circle is as tight as you would like others to believe...there are many disgruntled people there but they have been brainwashed by their covenant and are afraid to walk out. | ||
| common_sense Advanced Member Username: common_sense Post Number: 953 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 69.106.179.170 |
I beg your pardon, praxaluh, but YOU are the only one who is quarreling about words! Your petty repetition and striving is indeed of NO PROFIT. In the context of this HH thread, though, I think you have done more than anyone to validate the words of those exposing the errors of HH. Your dogmatic tangents only confirm that they were indeed onto something from which you desire to distract the readers' attention. Now go ahead and question my spiritual acumen. Call down God's judgment on me. Attribute blood to my hands. All I have to say is......... WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?????????!!!!!!!!! | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 725 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Robin, your 'plainly' was only one small element of your PR (public relations) shilling for the vile, sick blasphemy. A small one. We have seen about a dozen major ones in all. From ignoring the clear words of Mrs. Alvear talking of killing as her context for the phrase, to ignoring the headline multi-documented usage in the Latin culture, to ignoring the clear meaning in English, to ignoring that nobody in any culture ever calls a marriage covenant a 'death covenant', to ignoring that Mrs. Alvear blatantly lied on this point, to coming up with every attempted coy excuse for the vile blasphemy from Mrs. Alvear, to ignoring that no Christian groups ever use the phrase, to knowing that this is used for suicide cults, and people on drugs who make a pact to kill each other or themselves, or assasins to murder a target, or Heavens Gate or Jim Jones where the members were poisoned, killed, murdered, or similar with other witchcraft and murder pacts, to issues of genocide -- to not even simply stating that this is not HH language (!) to pretending that this is not important (!) to steadfastly refusing to disassociate yourself from the blasphemy, to giving an apology that was one of convenience, defacto trashed when it comes to the daily viper tongue of Mrs. Alvear, to the hypocrisy of your whole position, trying to excuse Mrs. Alvear's daily blasphemy any way you can - rather than helping her with a word of truth. Your whole approach is truly sickening, and all of this just to support a vile blasphemy !!! Is this an example of how far you have fallen away from hearing from God ? Now, granted, at this point you may have confused yourself so much with your own sophistry and twisting that somehow you actually don't realize that this is a demonic-murder-suicide-cult-brujeria-pact phrase, in English and Spanish and Portuguese. It is hard to imagine that level of self-deception from anybody, even you in regard to something with HH. Speaking straight, I believe the window may be closing on those like you who have had ample opportunity to forsake this demonic-phrase-bondage. There has been plenty of time. There comes a time when ones conscience can become seared beyond repair. In an earlier time the forum actually understood this problem. Some apologies were offered, and Mrs. Alvear stopped its usage for a good season. However there was no full repentance and cleansing, and we can be sure Mrs. Alvear would use it in Brazil and was anxious to dribble it out here. And when it returned (after a much fresher and crisper month or two on the forum) it returned with a demonic vengeance, capped by the shilling of Robin as the active 'death covenant' protector, trying to reassure Mrs. Alvear that she could do as much vile blasphemy as she liked without objection. Sick. And all this support of the death blasphemy from a woman who coyly and slyly states how she respects the motives and intentions of HH. Such crass hypocrisy I have rarely seen. Robin, I ask you to step back and really ask the Lord Jesus about this, today. Perhaps there is Godly counsel you can find, untainted. And if you want a day or two to seek and consider the mind of God with a moratorium here of usage and discussion of the blasphemy phrase, that is fine by me - as long as you intend to use it constructively. (And a sidenote: I don't insist that you label the phrase blasphemy, accurate as the term is, simply to see the basic truth of this matter and speak with a few ounces of integrity.) Shalom, Praxaluh | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 726 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
To 'Common_sense' - one believer in the Lord Jesus Christ trying to help some folks with a deep need. A watchman on the wall. And note, there was no tangent until the oppositionalists demonic phrase returned with with a sick vengence and shills. The tangent claim is a red herring, trying to shift attention away from the defacto support by 'Common_Sense' and others of the acrid, sick 'death covenant' blasphemy. God knows the importance of such words, and our responsibility to help those whose tongues are not restrained by the Holy Spirit. Matthew 12:34-37 ..for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Shalom, Praxaluh (Message edited by praxaluh on December 13, 2006) | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 354 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.176.48.179 |
Robin, I ask you to step back and really ask the Lord Jesus about this, today. Praxaluh, I want you to know I am in no way being sarcastic with this response. Let’s lay aside our difference for a moment please. I am being very sincere and sober in this reply. I can not with a clear conscience say what you wish me to say. The Lord has led me to be reserved, not sharing my full feelings or knowledge on this, and it is best for HH if I don’t because there could be some misunderstanding. Those feelings have nothing to do with either Sis. A., blasphemy, or politics. Please pray asking the Lord if I am telling the truth. I am praying you will understand. If after praying, you still don’t feel I am being totally honest with you, and you think you can be respectful enough of my attempt to explain, please e-mail me and I will reply with my phone number. Please also note again, I VERY RARELY use my name here. Please refrain and I will do like wise with your name. ForeverHis | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 733 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Robin, you had used your name a number of times recently in your own posts. And when we are dealing with your shilling for the vile 'death covenant' blasphemy it would seem to be the proper name to use, along with Mrs. Alvear for the one speaking daily the sick blasphemy. Similarly, on my side, personally it would be ok if somebody wants to call me Steven rather than Prax (especially since I use my name on other forums). Anyway, at your request I will go back to using Forever_His or F_H at this time as I did earlier. The issue with you on this thread is your shilling for the sick blasphemy of the 'death covenant' accusation. And what you decide to do is definitely your responsbility before God. If you cannot for some reason see the stench of your current stance it is your accountability before God it is not remotely a question of what I 'wish you to say'. It is the fundamental question of integrity and you only deeply damage your own walk by your rebellion against God shilling for the vile and sick blasphemy. And everybody here knows how ugly and sick this is (maybe not Mrs. Alvear for reasons discussed elsewhere) even when they are throwing out diversions and smokescreens. Even if they want to rah-rah the vile words because of their animus to HH, they still know it is sick and unGodly. Everyone knows Mrs. Alvear is trying hard to give the impression that HH is a covenant like that of witchcraft and murder and suicide. She is trying to give that impression here, and she wants to poison those who will listen in her home Latin base with the sick vitriol. And she has blatantly lied time and again trying to spread her poison. That is why I find more diversions suspect. You are the only one since the return of the ugliness who has actually thrown out active excuses for the poison-viper language. Others here understandably seem to be reticent, even when hostile to HH and allied with you and Mrs. Alvear, to put themselves out as active acrid blasphemers. There is a bit of Holy Spirit check. So they will play diversion only. Sadly, they (the oppositionalists) lack the integrity to speak the truth to Mrs. Alvear and the forum, yet they also are checked from being active vile blasphemers. Only you, since the nice respite of a month or two of fresh air was polluted with the vomit, have been the active, direct excuser and shill and supporter of the vile words from Mrs. Alvear. The rest of your post is too vague and veiled for me to comment with any sort of approval or disapproval. And I will be honest with you, I am now wary of your airs of sincerity and sobriety as they have failed miserably in the past. By your statements and actions you have given yourself a reputation for sounding coy and sweet and carrying a concealed sicarii. I don't say this to shoot down your post, simply to be upfront. However I have no problem in trying again. If you have something to share straight, I will have a listening ear. The vileness of the poison asp 'death covenant' lingo is simply clear as day and that is the topic of the thread. And you have repeatedly sought to muddy the waters, raising side-issues and non-issues and pseudo-issues, ignoring the true and documented and obvious, speaking sophistry and blowing lots of smoke. Apparently now you want to mix some more apples and oranges and kumquats and carbon monoxide into the smoke mix. Switching the environment. As for your telling the truth about .. something new .. God knows, since there is no indication of what you are talking about anyway. I find the technique you use above of basically asking me to agree with something unknown as dubious. Even more so with your track record heretofore. The proper path is very simple - (continues) (Message edited by praxaluh on December 13, 2006) | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 734 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
If you have something to share that is better off the forum you can simply write me at - praxeus@bigfoot.com without preconditions. And if you feel there is something that you would share that would explain your shilling for the vile words from Mrs. Alvear, I will listen to you respectfully. Now I tell you square, it is difficult to come up with anything you could share on any topic at all that can justify this verbiage vomit that you are encouraging. However I will listen and if you want I will respond privately or converse more. Or any other topic is ok. Over the years I have always had cordial and respectful emails and phone calls with folks on this and other forums, and those channels are always open to just about everybody (everybody on Factnet). Nobody is blocked and I try hard to give those with whom I agree or disagree a fair listening ear, a measured response and respectful conversation. Shalom, Praxaluh (Message edited by praxaluh on December 13, 2006) | ||
| foreverhis Intermediate Member Username: foreverhis Post Number: 355 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.176.48.179 |
Apparently now you want to mix some more apples and oranges and kumquats and carbon monoxide into the smoke mix. Switching the environment. Switching the enviroment? I know you can't hear me, but I have been soft spoken, calm, and sincer. You are the one who has been judging hearts and calling names. I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I am trying to communicate with Mr. Vocabulary.  (That is NOT meant as an insult,) to the best of my ability. That is either brave or stupid of me...lol. By the way I read your posts before you editied them. Thanks for the changes.. I think. As for your telling the truth about .. something new .. God knows, I am not sure what you mean by "something new." Yes God knows, that is why I asked you to pray about it. I think He would show you I am telling the truth. | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 735 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
F_H, You didn't quite get the sense I meant by switching the environment. That had to do with the culture of the discussion, switching gears from the issue that is before this forum. Let's let that phrase drop and move on. And since you don't say anything substantive it is hard for you not to be 'telling the truth'. Except I only saw one statement that was an assertion. That indicated that no matter what you will offer yet more excuses, more diversions, and will continue to play dumb, acting as the support and encouragement for the vile blasphemy. The stench. For some vague and veiled reason you assert that you cannot speak with integrity and you must keep up the charade. And that is like the 'truth' of the 'liar's paradox'. -------------------- btw, I did not mean any insult before to those who work on turnip-trucks, driving, picking, harvesting or even falling off. They could not play as dumb as F_H and the Oppositionals who still pretend that they don't really know what their pet sick & vile Alvear-phrase means. In contrast, the country-bumpkins and vegetable-laborers have my deep respect. Shalom, Praxaluh (Message edited by praxaluh on December 13, 2006) | ||
| praxaluh Advanced Member Username: praxaluh Post Number: 756 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 74.73.4.159 |
Hi Folks, This morning I spent a little time in review on the 'Who Needs You?' thread, due to the cameo reappearence of 'Truth_Hunter', one of the ones who has actively embraced the sick 'death covenant' phrase, returning in order to downplay any significance to the sick accusation-verbiage. This got me to thinking. How did they get this far gone ? That they end up looking for every out to defend vicious and sick blasphemy-lies. To slink, to divert, to dribble, to hide, to ignore, and to play games with God ('a marriage covenant is like a death covenant, same thing'). Many of them, no less. Lies that everybody except a very hardened oppositional can see right through. Here are my thoughts. They simply cannot, in any way, acknowledge that an attack on HH was simply wrong. Especially not if it comes from the public front-woman attack-HH-leader Mrs. Alvear. Now of course this seems irrational, and it is. They would only help their own cause if they would announce the truth to each other and the world. 'OK, we made a mistake, it wasn't right, we may still be opposed to HH, but we will retire the false phrase. Apologies'. Maybe they are concerned that it would give me, personally, extra forum legitimacy. Such a 'big' issue and I was right after all. After so much head-in-the-sand, so many diversions and rah-rahs and attempts to downplay. And I really don't care about that at all and honestly there is nothing I can do about it at this point. You missed the better opportunity to quickly forsake the sick vitriol but at least .. 'better late than never'. You can recover with minimum losses for the 'battle' that you hold so dear and, more importantly, actually be strengthened spiritually before God with a true acknowledgment. Listen, I have no desire to gloat about any of this, I simply want to see some integrity on this forum. And please, don't be concerned about a precedent, there is nothing even remotely close to this. There may be other issues, we all go back and forth about this and that, but nothing at all remotely comparable. This phase alone by itself is today the defining issue of integrity on the forum. So it seems they are stuck, they cannot forego the Proverbs 22 type of mentality. They actually would rather be the snarling dogs of 'death covenant' compassing this forum . They have trapped themselves. However, they could bite the bullet and get real with the forum. It might not be easy, even unto the (gasp) really-needed-apology to HH. As very properly and gracefully done (twice I think) by Under_Grace, once on a much, much lesser but still idle-word issue, thank you U_G, a mentsch-response. Probably these oppositional folks are so far cornfused that they will give him flak for being righteous and sincere in words, for setting a 'bad example'. Or they also have this .. Oh, we can't apologize for these reasons a..b..c. Balderdash, stop deceiving yourself. You have defined the throes of wickedness with your 'death covenant' junque. Or perhaps.. "oh, no, what will happen to our politics, our publication, seminar, brief, whatever, if we put it on the record that we erred with a smear" Makes no difference, just do what is right. Stop being politicians first. It is time, long time, to get real and put the death covenant lie out to pasture. Reject the demonic phrase, forsake it 100% in all venues .. and give a simple, crisp, sincere apology to HH. Yours in Jesus name, Praxaluh (Message edited by praxaluh on December 18, 2006) |
