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seekingglory
Member
Username: seekingglory
Post Number: 62
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 24.162.130.84
| | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 10:06 pm: | 
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Prax,
If you can get Blair Adams AND Howard Wheeler to both get on this board and offer a deep heartfelt apology to Janice for all the misery and pain they have inflected on her and her family THEN I will be most happy to see that she does the same. Since they originated this controversy by their evil actions they must be the first to try to resolve it.
Prax, what you don’t see or if you do see you will not admit is that HH thinks they are ‘special’. They really think and say that they are ‘God’s chosen ones’. They really believe that HH is the New Jerusalem. And all others are wrong. And all others are lost. They really really believe and promote this amongst themselves. So sad. And so chilling for those inside who are so misled.
But they are really just a group of people molded to fit a desire of the founder, a former hippie, who had a dream of what he has now managed to create from the blood and sweat of so many followers. If he decides to go away and rest or play, church is cancelled. A regular church meeting will not be held in his absence. If he doesn’t like what is happening in a meeting, he screams...stops his feet like a 3 year old..... and storms out the door while everyone just sits. Then slowly everybody just walks out and goes home.
You will never hear him say, “Turn your bible to such and such”. He does not want you reading your bible during church; trying to follow along with what is being said. Most of the members have never heard of an ‘alter call’. No Prax, this is not a church. This is a private club. And a ‘tourist trap’ to capture income for the leaders.
They have had 30 years to learn how to manipulate the system; especially the tax system (hello IRS); to appease the authorities, to fool the public and to avoid the scrutiny they should be held to. But it is about to start unraveling. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1444
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.82.95.82
| | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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SADLY THAT IS JUST WHAT i WITNESSED THERE...STOMPING OUT...MY husband and I have like a permanent picture in our minds...for when we went there the leader was built up into the high heavens to us...that soured our stomachs to see such childess behavior from a so called apostle...
as time went by we saw so many things from inmature leadership it became a drugery to even go to service...and in the end we had to make ourselves go for we realized it was not a church, not even in my opinion a part of God´s church...
I say these things weeping for so many people there are so deceived...but JW and branamites are also along with so many others... |
seekingglory
Intermediate Member
Username: seekingglory
Post Number: 118
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 24.162.130.158
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 8:34 pm: |
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People generally join Homestead Heritage because of a perceived path to honor God, to improve their personal walk with Jesus and to care for others through the form of community. These folks are generally most often altruistic, trusting persons who may be somewhat naïve. The majority are unaware of the method Homestead uses to recruit, school, and retain members. By using the enticements of a unique fellowship within a special community they employ thought reform processes that affect the decision making and commitments of the person who enters and stays. The techniques and methods Blair Adams uses and promotes creates a vast range of consequences—psychological, spiritual, social, and financial—suffered by those dominated and controlled by this man gone astray on a personal power trip.
Blair and his ‘elders’ use guilt, fear, and intimidation to control the members. They employ the 10 basic methods as seen in so many abusive churches; control-oriented leadership, spiritual elitism, manipulation of members, perceived persecution, life-style rigidity, emphasis on experience, suppression of dissent, harsh discipline of members, denunciation of other churches, and the infliction of painful exit processes. Any person with HH membership experience can testify that the leaders of HH use all ten of these methods. Blair and Howard teach members to accept values and conduct that modify reality. Whatever they want to do is taught as doctrine. I can just hear Blair saying to himself many years ago, “if I create a community that obeys my rules, these rules are then reality, and if I declare myself a pastor I can put God's imprimatur on my wishes, my fantasies, my desires." How can he get away with it? He simply sets up a system where he is accountable to no one and therefore beyond confrontation
Once a person is able to break free from HH then healing must occur. Finding confidence again to approach group or church affiliation and overcoming distorted spirituality are part of a long list of problems to sort out and deal with on the path to recovery. Prax would have you believe that this church is innocent of all charges and most posters here are spiritually dead. But without knowing the heart of any of the posters it is possible to draw a conclusion to all this by remembering..................
Any group that leaves a trail of broken people should be avoided. There is something fundamentally wrong with a church that has destroyed the lives of so many people. |
dowen
Advanced Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 850
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 67.9.93.81
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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"Prax would have you believe that this church is innocent of all charges and most posters here are spiritually dead. But without knowing the heart of any of the posters it is possible to draw a conclusion to all this by remembering.................. "
And by the same token, how can you possibly know Prax's heart?
I guess this is one of my biggest problems with this forum.
The attackers want everyone to believe what they have to say, with only their own remembrances as "proof", yet they discount Prax and several others remembrances as nonsense.
Most of the folks here posting against HH have been gone from HH for a number of years and think everyone should believe their word as gospel truth, yet the experiences of someone like me, who works with HH everyday, should be written off as worthless.
The arrogance of it all really irks me.
What was that Scripture about knowing them by their Love one for another?
Where is the Love from GlorySeeker and Co.?
All I see is arrogant, unfounded, accusations being hurled about with wild abandon. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1745
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.107.49
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 10:27 pm: |
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with only their own remembrances as "proof"?????????????
Have you forgot Dowen people have put names
and dates on this forum and others are
going to do the same.
It is not a faded memory... |
not_scared
Junior Member
Username: not_scared
Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.187.161
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 9:54 am: |
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i wonder how old prax was while attending hh? |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 925
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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Hi N_S,
Greetings.
Hmm. I came to faith in the Lord Jesus in my
late twenties through the burden and prayer
of HH friends and the presence and power
of God in their midst.
Shalom,
Praxaluh |
not_scared
Junior Member
Username: not_scared
Post Number: 34
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.176.231
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:40 pm: |
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thanks, and greetings, i was thinking maybe you were 3 and that maybe your memory was a little fuzzy. i stand corrected. |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 926
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:11 am: |
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Well, I may have acted that way at times  . |
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