WAS JESUS A GNOSTIC?

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shem
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2006
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 8:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As the definition of a Gnostic is: one who possesses first-hand, revealed, experiential, Divine KNOWLEDGE of God, then it stands to reason, if one believes what is said in the NT, that Jesus must have been a Gnostic!
Why, if this is the case, did (and do) the so-called 'orthodox' churches condemn Gnosticism out-of-hand. I understand that there have always been various 'pseudo-gnostic' sects claiming such Divine Knowledge of God, but the churches tend to reject any and ALL such claims, without even investigating them. This was exactly what happened in Jesus' own time - he was murdered for claimimg to have Divine Knowledge of God by the religious people - the Pharisees and Sadducees!
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frankenchrist
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Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 9:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Why, if this is the case, did (and do) the so-called 'orthodox' churches condemn Gnosticism out-of-hand."

Because the Gnostics considered the resurection to be metaphorical rather than literal. That's it, that is where the discrepency lay. Sure Jesus could be considered a gnostic but that does not mean that we all ought to be according to Orthodox xtianity. Jesus has to be unique, after all he is the son grand cosmic doo-dad.
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shem
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 6:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Frankenchrist,

I think the answer lies in the fact that the Gnostics rejected a hierarchical institutionalized money making business, with a worldly priesthood setting the rules.
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genesis_truth
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah whatever Shem.
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shem
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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 8:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does no one have anything to add to this? Take a listen to this radio interview http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2006/11nov/RIRT-061116-randerson.mp3
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jeff_franklin
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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 9:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know who or what you are selling here Shem. Tell us what is the name of your Guru you want all of us to adore?
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shem
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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not selling anything, just pointing to TRUTH - Spiritual Truth, that is.

Sorry no names - you must seek for yourself if you wish to discover.

Peace & Love }
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jeff_franklin
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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 7:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No cop outs Shem!

What is the name of your Guru?

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