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     cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1134 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.69.35.7 |
The Finns exhibit their musical expertise in an expostion of their culture! Very enjoyable! Hooray for the Finns! Especially those in Raamatuu Puhuu (sp) | ||
| minutus Senior Member Username: minutus Post Number: 1076 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.99.96.165 |
That was a riot! The Finns were far better than the Birmingham group. But I guess I'm partial  . | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1135 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.69.35.7 |
The part with the guy with the megaphone was hilarious. | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 152 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 83.102.66.237 |
Finland is rich with music (Sibelius and Kaija Saariaho for example). Kalevala is known all over the world (Elias Loennrot gathered it together from ordinary peasant people). Also you should taste these breast-looking Finnish cakes: JOHAN LUDWIG RUNEBERGS CAKES (13 small round cakes) Served with good coffee on the 5th of February on Runebergs day: Recipe: 200 gr butter 1/2 dl sugar 1 dl brown sugar 2 eggs 3 dl white flour (wheat) 50 gr crushed almonds 1 dl crumbles of bisquites (for example left overs of gingerbread cookies) 1 teaspoon bakingflour 1 spoon cardemumma raspberry jam Moisturizing: 1 dl water 1 dl punch or rum-flavored raspberry juice 2 spoons sugar On the top: raspberry jam 1 dl white icing sugar 1/2 spoon water How you make the Runeberg cakes (looking like breasts) Whisk butter and sugars in a bowl well. Add the eggs one by one. Add the dry ingredients into the dough and mix carefully. Butter a cupcake baking dish. Put with two spoons some dough into the small baking tins (you can also use waxpaper baking cupcake tins) and press a small teaspoonful of jam in the middle of each one. Bake in 200 degrees Celsius oven about 30 minutes. Then turn them upside down (not those which are in paper tins). Moisturize with a boiled mixture of water-punch-sugar. Put the cakes into the freezer in a clean paperbag for one hour. Then take the cakes out of the freezer and put some raspberry jam in the middle of each cake. Then make a pasta of white icing sugar and put it aroud the jam-centre using a pastrytube. Serve with good coffee. See link: http://www.tonfisk-design.fi/products/runeberg_cake.html | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 153 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 83.102.66.237 |
It is funny to notice that Runegergs cakes have something in common with Hanukkah cakes: the icing on the top! The Jews have their Hanukkah-celebration from December to January and make cakes too: http://www.ichef.com/recipe.cfm?task=display&recipeid=82088&itemid=82426 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 154 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 83.102.66.237 |
Also the Lord said to me, that the leftovers from His table are much more valuable that the offerings from the world: Matt. 14: 20. And they all ate, and were filled: and they took up that which remained over of the broken pieces, twelve baskets full. 21. And they that did eat were about five thousand men, besides women and children. 22. And straightway he constrained the disciples to enter into the boat, and to go before him unto the other side, till he should send the multitudes away. So, if you outside from Bible Speaks or GGWO feel like a "leftover", remember, God has a use for you! From the leftovers were made cakes for home return, for those who heard about Jesus feeding miracle. They had something concretic in their hands: the crumbcakes of the gread meal! And Jesus did not make a calculation mistake when 12 baskets of crumbs were gathered from the multitudes, because there were long distance travellers,old ones and children who needed the crumbcakes after the meal for a longer period. So even the crumbs of your life have a meaning, dancer and others (me too!). Tommy said in his sermon once: "We have bread, they haven't...". That is not true! We have Bread, Jesus Christ and his Crumbs are sufficient to us all without any manipulation or suggestion - Jesus-way is odinary blessed life in his promises! His promises in the Bible are the crumbs we need every day helping to face the coming days. | ||
| david_munson Senior Member Username: david_munson Post Number: 3552 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 4.156.105.159 |
You are right Sister Mary, we do have bread and not crumbs. We actually will speak with those who don't agree with us. Just like Jesus does. Tommy might want to check into the "mind of Christ" so he can change his superiority mentality and get back to truth. It sad to see the deception that makes one think themselves better than any one else. That "I got it and you don't" nonsense that permiates the halls of GGWO along with the refusal to correct obvious doctrinal error and manipulation of the flock. Tommy still kicks against the pricks. } | ||
| orangetwopay Advanced Member Username: orangetwopay Post Number: 583 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.34.29.182 |
speaking of finnish musical culture, liquid waves of stevens is PROUD to announce the musical debut of SISTER MARY on our site! http://liquidwaves.blogspot.com/2007/01/sister-marys-musical-debut.html yes, sister mary sings for us! her song "loving, loving, loving Jesus" is now up on LW for your enjoyment and edification!! | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 156 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.51.32 |
Thanks orangetwopay. I composed this tune after I was baptised in Liquid Waves after oonfessing Stevens as a prophet... This is just the kind of music I composed at Taasjaervi Course Center (where Tommy started his career as a preacher) in 1977. So this tune really tells about my overenthusiasm duting that time... It was a time of overreligious feelings... but I am not ashamed of that, this kind of behaviour belongs to youth! Sister Mary Jippee, I am still SAVED!!! | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 157 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.51.32 |
Though I noticed that you have added some drumming in the back... maybe it should be accompanied with pure rock'n roll? | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 158 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.51.32 |
Also I had in 1977 a reason to be so enthusiastic: 31st December 1976 I slipped in an icy road and broke my left leg from two places in the shin-bone. In the hospital emergency a male nurse put a plaster around it until my knees and I had to use srutches for seven-eight weeks. Next week Didie and Jackie came behind my door and invited me to Bible Speaks Meeting at Helsinki Metsala suburb. I came with them and did not understand a word Tommy was preaching but then he said that if someone wants to be healed, that person should rise the hand. My leg was aching and I lifted my hand and nearly immediately the pain went away!!! And the leg healed miraculously and when the doctor at the hospital took the x-rays he said that the leg was healed miraculously quickly!!! The plaster was taken away in five weeks. So in your caricature there is a seed of truth: I was really convinced that God worked through Bible Speaks message concretly, because I was healed! But after I left the Bible Speaks the leg started to ache and it ached about a year, and it is still thicker on the left side from the ankle. So maybe this was a deep suggestion I had that time and when the spell broke, my leg obeyed my real process of healing and feelings... If it was a real healing from God, He would have not withdrawn the miracle and the healing. So it was a suggestion, I think. | ||
| boss_martian Advanced Member Username: boss_martian Post Number: 833 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 192.91.171.42 |
Direct from Finland: http://www.lordi.fi/main.site?action=app/gallery/random&dir_id=7 | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 207 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 83.102.36.184 |
Only one thing bothers me in my "Musical Debut" is the naiveness of the structure, how OTP builds their LW caricatures. This caricature "Who is Jesus" can be considered by many as blashphemy of God, but if you seriously think, it is not, but OTP tries to picture how we Christians are very naive in our faith in the view of unbelievers. Question who is Jesus is really a question to hundreds of millions of pagans and backslidden Christians. They ask for a sign: when will His kingdom come? What means really Gods love, mercy and grace? We Christians are all like stars reflecting the "suns" solar power in a way, like there were pictured Stevens as a moon reflecting Gods light and "love". But the moon has a dark side that nobody knows what there is. Everyone of us has a dark side, me, you, the superpastors in the world, politicians, even cartoonmakers. They ask, what will God do to our dark side that he has created in us? I have the answer: He will turn his back! It means he will not notice it so that we will gain mercy and grace through Jesus. God himself could not show himself even to Moses, because human being will immediately die. So he talked through darkness to Moses (Ex. 20:21) and that happens even today: we cannot see God, He is in darkness, but we have His Word and must trust only it! We get grace that is hidden in the darkness. Even when Jesus died on the cross, he died in darkness, God did not show himself even to his Son and Jesus cried why God had forsaken him. So our feelings and doubts in darkness are normal and grace remains, when we leave ourselves in the hands of God, in faith! Gods darkness brings life but devils darkness brings death, that is the distinction between them. Which one we choose, is in our free will... | ||
| listener Member Username: listener Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 199.46.198.230 |
Hey Cordell, Have you been following the "Reformed Rap" debate? World magazine had a nice article. Myspace is blocked here, but... http://audio.xanga.com/yobydier/56b6a358384/audio.html isn't | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1490 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 67.79.34.66 |
 I gotta let this sink in... | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1492 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.69.35.7 |
OK, I've listened to it twice. I really like it. I'd go to his church. | ||
| sister_mary Intermediate Member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 220 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 83.102.70.28 |
There's a little, little bar, in a little, little town, in a little, little location, in a little, little house. And you'll get a little, little toast, and a bigger, bigger beer, and you'll feel little, little better, hearing little, little music, and have better, better day, by the Porvoo Gewgaws Roads (Rihkamakatu) little, little Bar Mary's... http://www.barmary.fi/index.htm | ||
| david_munson Senior Member Username: david_munson Post Number: 3853 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 4.156.99.133 |
Seeing the title of this thread ,reminded me how Carl would rail against certain types of music.(anything that he didn't like) I remember him saying that certain music was "demonic" or had a "jungle beat" which had something to do with witchcraft. In memorial of this particular drivel which has zero basis from a Biblcal perspective and in honor of the fact that many "thinking individual Spirit filled believers" know this to be rediculous and infantile dogma I submit a song from one of my favorite all time bands, 'Steely Dan', Title Pretzel Logic. I might have suggested Twisted Sister but I don't like them, they're Demonic and have a Jungle beat.  Yah dahs yumer. Stupid Brace!---->} | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1763 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.69.35.7 |
Munson, do you mean you missed this at Christmas? | ||
| sybil New member Username: sybil Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 70.22.77.81 |
I really got a kick out of the guy who played the "boyfriend, husband or whatever.!!" | ||
| bob_brinton Senior Member Username: bob_brinton Post Number: 1239 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 70.109.253.37 |
Time to change the clocks! | ||
| boddah Advanced Member Username: boddah Post Number: 527 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.49.220.251 |
hi bob! stopping by, memory lane and all that-- since i found a friend from ggwo here, my thoughts have been a little trippy. remorse, longing, anger, futility, humor, comfort, loneliness, fear. for the record, i do like sibelius quite a bit. he's complex without being overbearing. | ||
| boddah Advanced Member Username: boddah Post Number: 528 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.49.220.251 |
hi bob! stopping by, memory lane and all that-- since i found a friend from ggwo here, my thoughts have been a little trippy. remorse, longing, anger, futility, humor, comfort, loneliness, fear. for the record, i do like sibelius quite a bit. he's complex without being overbearing. | ||
| louise_connolly Advanced Member Username: louise_connolly Post Number: 637 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.195.22.230 |
Sure is good to see a post from you, boddah! | ||
| bob_brinton Senior Member Username: bob_brinton Post Number: 1240 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 71.161.160.10 |
Hi Boddah! I haven't really been keeping track here much. Things are ever chaotic at work, and my father took a fall and either fractured his pelvis or broke his hip or back. We thought he might not make it through the next 24 hours, but he seems to be a bit better. I may end up having to go out there (AZ) again soon, though. It also was thought that perhaps his cancer had come back, but that's mysteriously disappeared from the hordes of emails passing back and forth between family members. They did a bone marrow test, but I haven't heard results. | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1913 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 70.124.124.36 |
If you pass by my way Bobby, stop in for a Shiner bock & BBQ. I wish you well with your Dad, may the Lord have mercy. | ||
| bob_brinton Senior Member Username: bob_brinton Post Number: 1241 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 71.161.160.10 |
He never woke up yesterday morning. It's just as well. He was really suffering and felt life had been long enough. He's been looking forward to joining my Mom up Yonder for a long time. I feel great peace over it. I'm staying home today and going through processing inward stuff. When I see Dad again, it will be the first time I've really seen what he was intended to be. For the first time, we'll actually have clear understanding between us. | ||
| anon_brief Advanced Member Username: anon_brief Post Number: 616 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.74 |
Sorry for your loss, Bob. | ||
| cordell Senior Member Username: cordell Post Number: 1917 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 70.124.124.36 |
Empathy from this side too. | ||
| rjfernalld Senior Member Username: rjfernalld Post Number: 1875 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 71.123.73.9 |
Bob.....you and yours are ever and always in my prayers....now even moreso. Love to you and Mary both, from Scott and I. | ||
| bob_brinton Senior Member Username: bob_brinton Post Number: 1242 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 71.161.160.10 |
Thanks all. Processing all this seems to be a very positive experience, without having to 'put a good face on it'. I'll be 55 soon, and a lot of those in our generation are facing this and care of elder parents. I belong to an email list associated with one of the defunct bands from the 70s, Gentle Giant. While we're supposed to avoid addressing religion and politics, we're quite free to do it off-list. When people send condolences, they generally also send those off-list. In these notes and responses I'm able to be quite candid about what I'm seeing, learning and thinking. I don't feel grief. My Dad is upstairs, free and done with the pain. His thinking is clear now. I'm rejoicing. It's easy to let go of the negative stuff; but I can also address it as difficult to deal with in time. I think a little light creates capacity for more. I'm not trying to 'use' my situation. But I'm open to saying what I can to those who seem open. I'm processing semi-publicly. My younger brother David, who used to play piano in Lenox, and I are going out to AZ, and will get up to Sedona for a day. He's very hesitant to open himself up to church structure. But he believes and we discuss spiritual matters. I sense this visit may be very therapeutic for him. I've found my own ways to walk within the structure without being its product. I have those I'm accountable to, and regularly attend in one place with someone I trust enough to be really open with. Isolation is not a good answer. The Body is intended to be connected. It is very diverse and wide ranging. And the connections within it vary a lot and can look very different. I wrote to a couple of friends earlier that there's a true 'machinery' of the Body from the Spirit, and another organizational structure that may or may not be led by the Spirit. There is a place intended for each of us in the true 'machinery'. The other structure is not the enemy, as such. But it can distort your instructions. You have to exercise your spiritual senses to know not only what is true; but what is pertinent to you. Obey what 'belongs' to you. Of the one that knows much, much is required. The one who knows things which are inaccurate will feel responsibilities which are false. | ||
| jeannie Senior Member Username: jeannie Post Number: 1407 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 141.157.124.14 |
Bob,So sorry for your loss. Boddah, Good to see you here. My daughter was accepted into Goucher..which made think of you! Love to you both.. Jeannie | ||
| isabella Advanced Member Username: isabella Post Number: 742 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.128.143.230 |
Bob, Thanks for telling us about your family and your ordeal. I will pray. Isabella | ||
| louise_connolly Advanced Member Username: louise_connolly Post Number: 638 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 24.61.151.107 |
Bob, God bless you as you go through the loss of your Dad! It is a relief to know that God has our loved ones who have passed from this life resting with Him in eternal peace. This is the big weekend to think on how fortunate we are that Christ died that we all may live. Happy Easter to Bob and all of you! | ||
| bob_brinton Senior Member Username: bob_brinton Post Number: 1243 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 71.161.160.10 |
Thanks to all of you for condolences and prayers. Sedona was very beautiful and interesting. The sides of mountains that look like semi-abstract sculptures. There are a lot of mystic/New Agey type things there with the artsy stuff that often goes hand in hand with it. I've come to the conclusion that these people feel the drawing power of God, but have misinterpreted Him. It reminded me of Paul and the statue to the unknown God. What they are looking for is Who we already have. They just don't know it. I'm not going to let the presence of all their props and signs spoil my appreciation of my Creator and his handwork. Tibet doesn't 'belong' to them. India doesn't. Haiti doesn't. All these places, indeed the whole of creation is our inheritance. So many people seem busy trying to conquer what's already theirs'. I want to just walk in the reality of what is. There's a rest for us to enter into. The battle is His. Always has been. | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.49.44 |
The Eurovision Contest is in Finland, Helsinki, today! http://www.eurovision.tv/ | ||
| iris New member Username: iris Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 80.186.253.106 |
Yes, it's a big thing here in Helsinki. The streets are full of people. AND Finland beat Russia in ice hockey today. Yahooo! | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.49.44 |
Marija ŠERIFOVIĆ - Molitva Song named "Prayer" won the contest. I liked the song a lot. Serbians have learned to pray after their bloody history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia Finnish Hanna did not warm people with her song "Leave Me Alone" and voters mostly wanted to do so what she was singing. That means WORDS have immense power to created inner visions in the listeners minds and that is why rhymes should be carefully considered. But our Hanna was very nice and did her job well still! I just read about the imagination of words and here is one example: Man: "Oh, I made wrong estimations in my work, couldn't fill the hole and made a mistake, fell and now I can't work!" First you may think that this poor man lost his job. The meaning in that case was that the man was filling a cealings hole and step aside the ladder, fell down and broke his leg and cannot work at this moment. In religion we may interpret things in many ways. When you are brainwashed, you do not interpret anything but assimilate the opinions of the leading group and do not evaluate it anyway. Later when you learn being mislead, the shock will be immense. Ding Dong Bell is a childrens rhyme and loved. What will you interpret about this distortion? Ding dong bell Tommys in the well. Who put him in? Little Carla Stewie. Who pulled him out? Little Mary Scout. What a naughty boy was that who tried to drown poor Tommy-cat, who never did him any harm, but licked his but in his fathers barn! What imaginations did you get from this??? Well here is a funny video about how mean Tommy became a loving cat because of the heavenly demand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il14mOah1g4&mode=related&search= | ||
| dancer2 New member Username: dancer2 Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 80.186.182.93 |
I considered mentioning Eurovision, but decided that the associations between Finland and gay tolerance were running strong enough here without. The stout lady in the black bluesman suit who won only reinforces the stereotype. | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 87.94.49.44 |
I did not pay attention, how Marija was dressed or what was her weight... All women are beautiful, even slim, wrinkled or fat ones. Most important is, what is inside the mind of a woman... Today is Mothers Day. I got phonecalls from my son and husband to my workingarea, knowing that I am loved as a mother and wife. I think respection between family members is meaningful and important. Even yesterday Marija sent her greetings to her mother. I saw a man, a single parent in a city tram with his two 6-12 year old daughters that were dressed like boys. Maybe the fathers wants to protect them from harrasment. Some do not have mother at all. A loving mother is a gift from God and Jesus' mother was an example of a mothers unselfish nature putting her needs beside. Congratulations to all Mothers also spiritual ones, who teach and guide others children all over the world! Send flowers or a card or a text message to your mother! Or you can gather some from a nice meadow and make a crown of them and place it on her head! Or you can serve cake and coffee... http://www.dotflowers.com/mothers-day-flowers-flowers-77.html or you can order a private concert to her or take her to the restaurant for dinner or order a housecleaner to clean the house!!! Or a kiss and hug and whisper that you love her... http://www.live365.com/stations/butero | ||
| sister_mary New member Username: sister_mary Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 80.223.33.226 |
I am amazed that my song "Loving loving loving Jesus" has become a hit with those odd drums in the backgroud that sounds like Sister Mary is singing her song with her keyboard in her monastery one-room flat in Napoli just behind a rock bar.... http://www.searchmyvideo.com/watch/3334501270/loving-loving-loving-jesus-by-sister-mary/ Well, maybe ... Little Sister Marys prophesy is good to be listened and followed: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v512853ZCp93NWZ Summer sent You is a nice song, I think Mary Blacks music is very inspiring too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V-_NUW6AOw If FactNet is soon closed I want that you will remember that these talks were not in vain - these talks helped many to recover the post traumas of GGWO and Bible Speaks memories and become free mentally and spiritually, without hate and bitterness! |
