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voidgate
Intermediate Member
Username: voidgate
Post Number: 155
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 144.138.162.169
| | Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 5:25 pm: | 
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The RSE administration is renowned for accusing any objectors against RSE to be pointing their fingers at the organization and not taking responsibility for their lives.
In view of the fact that not one student can validate the teachings by being a bodily example of having accomplished the fourth seal (the basic level of accomplishment) and almost no student can prove any consistency at anything taught it is in fact the RSE administration themselves that point the fingers at others and do not take responsibility what they offer.
The evidence against the teachings working is far greater than any evidence for it.
It could be concluded that the administration itself is red in the rainbow and cannot see their own reflection in the holographic universe. |
whatchamacallit
Intermediate Member
Username: whatchamacallit
Post Number: 256
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 24.177.245.142
| | Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 9:01 pm: |
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C'mon, Voidgate ! You just haven't focused long enough, sincerely enough, passionately enough ! You should be a God by now !
Seriously, it's true what you say. In view of the fact that the president of the corporation, Ms. Knight, hasn't mastered the teachings herself, in all these years, and she has a (hahahaha) direct connection to the big guy and shares his Energy, then how the heck are the rest of the students ever going to make it to God-hood ? It's just all ridiculous.
David is right - she clearly seems to be paving the way to get rid of Ramtha, or marginalize him to very part time status, as she puts herself in the limelight and takes credit upon herself. Part of me feels sad for the current students; they are so clueless, or to scared to leave. Part of me is beyond feeling bad for them. There are SO many red flags, that it has to take some serious denial mechanisms to hold the illusion in place.
They're so busy calling ex-students "victims" who couldn't make the teachings work - but - they have yet to make the teachings work and they are CURRENT students !!! HELLO ????? |
secrets
New member
Username: secrets
Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 70.125.85.168
| | Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:12 am: |
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Ramtha HAS LEFT the Building?
This POST is THE BOTTOM LINE... in many of these groups.... EVEN THE CHANNEL... who is the closes to the teacher... has not reached illumination.
What do these channells and con artist have in common???
The ability to TALK a good game.
and then BLAME YOU... for the lack of achievment.
No Accountability...
Not too much diference in the Jim Jones group and these... they just have not drank the Koolaid yet.
Smile. |
naturegirl
New member
Username: naturegirl
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 24.18.11.144
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 9:17 pm: |
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I remember being at a afternoon wine event with jz at the ranch and that day I could not tell the different between her and ramtha. Her voice was the same and then she would talk like jz, but most of the event was his voice, it was strange. The way this person would look at people, she did it the same way that ramtha did it and someone said to her, you act and talk just like ramtha and she said, no ramtha talks like me. I am telling you, it was a strange event and I thought to myself is this person the same, is there really a ramtha? But I will say this, jz recently has been out in the public speaking, but ramtha said several year ago in a wine event, that jz can teach this stuff and he told her to do it, what I felt was this plan has been in the making for a while, jz has been about taking over completely for a long time, this is a master plan game in the making and now it is out. jz has been preparing coming out and taking over for a long time, I don't know if there is a ramtha or if jz and this person is the same or different, all that I know is that I was at a wine event with about 100 people for over 6 hours and I could not tell the different. I have been at events and I have heard her speak different, but this event this person was exactly the same person as ramtha. I heard a story from a person that was hired to do work in jz house. One day she walked into jz room and she was in the mirror and jz was practicing the ramtha voice. The person left the school after that and she swears that it is true. |
secrets
New member
Username: secrets
Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 70.125.85.168
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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One day she walked into jz room and she was in the mirror and jz was practicing the ramtha voice. The person left the school after that and she swears that it is true.
Yea, I think that was Sophia... she worked on the Hawaii Videos and then went to Mafu for years.
Am I right? That is a very old story and I had been circulated for years. |
whatchamacallit
Intermediate Member
Username: whatchamacallit
Post Number: 266
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 24.177.245.142
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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Naturegirl,
I agree with you that the stage has been set for a while, for JZ to "take over" doing the teachings. I also recall hearing "Ramtha" make comments about having taught JZ so well that she could do the teachings herself.
It is interesting to me that she turned 60 this year, and "retirement" is coming upon her. How timely for Ramtha to leave !
Confusing, too. (tongue in cheek)
Why? He said he'd never leave us again. He also said the day will come when he will be done teaching and he'll go back from whence he came. He wouldn't lie, would he ? Again. He's stated he is not above or below doing ANYTHING ... and not to trust him and that he will lie. |
naturegirl
New member
Username: naturegirl
Post Number: 8
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 24.18.11.144
| | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 11:22 pm: |
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Secrets no it was not Sophia, I never heard of her.
Whatchamacallit, Ramtha said before he would leave, he would show himself..lies, lies, lies |
in_the_zone
Member
Username: in_the_zone
Post Number: 54
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 67.176.40.134
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 1:55 pm:
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Looking back at my experience at rse, I can see clearly now that the reason I was attracted to that place was because I was obsessed with my own spiritual experiences. And I was under the impression that by achieving great results there I would accelerate my spiritual prowess. And that somehow had value...oh, woe is me.
I have since come to understand that the kinds of so-called spiritual experiences fostered at rse have no value but even worse they have a very negative impact. I am wondering if this is the actual definition of a cult...sounds good but traps you in what's bad.
The reason I say what goes on there has a negative impact is because everything that is presented is basically to become even more self absorbed than you ever thought possible. And in my experience, nothing really good comes out of spiritual self-absorbtion. I found an expression for my seething arrogance that had never felt so much at home as it did at rse.
In life, arrogance is a hard thing to nurture because there's pressure from one's conscience to be less arrogant. But at rse, that little inner voice that tries to show us our own arrogance is silenced because arrogance is the ultimate benefit of being at rse. After all, if arrogance is the tone of one's life, it's much harder to make sense of kindness, compassion, love, forgiveness, et al and of course I truly think this is the ultimate goal of ramtha - to confuse people to the point that they go bonkers. Whoever is the being known as ramtha, he/she/it is not a beneveloent one.
Rse is the perfect resting spot for an ego just waiting for permission to rise up and roar its ugly little mane. Rse is a breeding ground for mastering the delusion of self-importance, which in and of itself is about as far from "spiritual" as one can get. |
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