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     david_mccarthy Intermediate Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 197 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.227.104.206 |
"Ramtha" has predicted Omega will pay out..... The Omega Wake up call. For those RSE students that have a glimmer of critical thinking left... I appeal to you. This is not a question of “Time Lines” or “Frequency specific”. We are talking about Your life here, including those of your loved ones outside the RSE razor wire walls. Your lives and resources are no more than toys for JZ Knight to add to her current fantasy world. All the while you are drawn ever deeper into her madness and the very ditch you believe you are overcoming. You already have Omega..It is your life. Take it back now. David LARSE@fairpoint.net THE OMEGA CHRONICLES What to do when your trader goes to prison . . . From http://www.quatloos.com/cm-omega/omega-chronicals.htm There are many Omega message boards and newsletters that continue to promote the Omega CULT. Both scammers and delusional victims propagate the insanity. Most of the following Internet message boards are private, but the hosts will allow you to join if you claim to be a faithful Omegan. The most accepted current pro-Omega theory is that convicted scammer Clyde Hood was just a pawn in a bigger holy cause. After being mismanaged by mortals, Omega has now been taken over by heavenly management, and funding is not just about to happen - but it IS happening. Omegans believe those who have received are under a strict non-disclosure agreement. The non-disclosure conveniently provides them with a reason as to why they have no knowledge of particular individuals who have received. Additionally, many use the non disclosure myth to explain the behavior of ex-believers who drop out of the Omega CULT circles. "Jim Bob said he's done with the program. He must be under a non disclosure." The accepted story Omegans cling to is that Clyde was divinely inspired to work with a group of power-moguls turned humanitarians. Clyde's duty was to compile a list of "the faithful". These faithful would later become the direct beneficiaries of a biblical redistribution of wealth -- "The meek shall inherit the earth." Clyde's commission for completing this task was 100% of the proceeds from all Omegans. Omega is GOD's program, so it does not need initial capital, and Clyde was free to keep it. Each $100 unit represented the required show of faith on investors' behalves, hence allowing them to receive God's million-fold gift in return. According to the story, Clyde became careless with his personal management of the funds, and the big bad government stepped in and arrested him. Clyde, being nothing more than a fallible man, cooperated with prosecutors as to possibly avoid the rest of his life in prison. Regardless of what O-Positives now think about Clyde (most hate him), they all believe "THE LIST" made its way to the proper hands before Clyde was hauled off to jail. They continue to wait for the shiny Fed-Ex truck, as funding is always within a day or two away. They keep one eye on the Internet chat boards and the other eye on the driveway. Several thousand people fit this profile. | ||
| in_the_zone Junior Member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 45 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 67.176.40.134 |
I wonder if people have always been this gullible, aka stupid, or if it is a relatively new phenomenon. | ||
| in_the_zone Junior Member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 46 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 67.176.40.134 |
I answered my own pondering when I remembered Eric Hoffer's book, True Believer. It actually shos that the type of people who become ensnared in delusions and swear by their delusions have been around forever. The following is from a website about Mr. Hoffer which I thought might help understand the teragedy of cultism and RSE. "Good and evil grow up together and are bound in an equilibrium that cannot be sundered. The most we can do is try to tilt the equilibrium toward the good." Eric Hoffer was a self-educated longshoreman who came to fame in the 1950's with the publication of his first book, The True Believer. A caustic analysis of the nature of mass movements and those who are driven to join them, The True Believer did what no other book of the mid-twentieth century could: it helped expose the hidden causes of the tumultuous events that nearly destroyed our world at that time. Hoffer said of the 1930's, "It colors my thinking and shapes my attitude toward events. I can never forget that one of the most gifted, best educated nations in the world, of its own free will, surrendered its fate into the hands of a maniac." The True Believer, though, is not solely concerned with the rise of Nazi Germany, but with the origination of all mass movements, destructive or creative. And more importantly, it is concerned with the main ingredient of such movements, the frustrated individual. The book probes into the psychology of the frustrated and dissatisfied, those who would eagerly sacrifice themselves for any cause that might give their meaningless lives some sense of significance. The alienated seek to lose themselves in these movements by adopting those fanatical attitudes that are, according to Hoffer, fundamentally "a flight from the self." Hoffer's first book dove into the subject that ultimately occupied him for his entire writing career and interested him throughout his life. That subject was not merely the discontented individual, but the creative and fulfilled individual as well. The nature of man and the individual human being have always been primary themes in the history of philosophical thought, and Hoffer's struggles with these concepts and questions have produced some particularly illuminating insights. He writes, "It is the individual alone who is timeless. The individual's hungers, anxieties, dreams, and preoccupations have remained unchanged throughout the millennia." It is fitting that a true individual, as Hoffer most certainly was, would demonstrate a deep understanding of human nature not only in his writings, but in his life as well. Born in 1902, Hoffer grew up in the Bronx under the care of a household servant after his mother died when he was seven. When his father died in 1920, Eric moved by himself to the west coast, determined to avoid factory work and "stay poor." A born reader, he began to educate himself in the libraries of California while he supported himself with odd jobs and migrant farm labor. He lived his life on the road until 1941. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 249 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.177.245.142 |
With regard to the comment: "That subject was not merely the discontented individual, but the creative and fulfilled individual as well." I would like to add, that I have been having an offlist private discussion about just this very point. It IS also the creative and fulfilled individual that can become trapped in a cult group. My vulnerability was not any big "lack" in my life. It was because I have a hefty dose of "intuition", and have since I was quite young. When I discovered the RSE teachings, I figured that this is where I could gain more understanding, and learn more of the science behind such things as intuition. Surely if I had a hefty dose of it, then others had more, because I know I'm not the epitomy of human evolution!! LOL So, in that regard, I was openminded to the teachings. It was only after years (I live at a distance so had that level of "detachment"), I slowly saw the instances of the destructive side of the "school". All the while, it the "bad" was intermingled with "good", too. I say this, because I imagine that I'm fairly average and that if that was the general path I took, for those reasons, I'm not alone. It's a case of being openminded biting one in the behind. Oh, well. At least I saw the "man behind the curtain" so to speak, and have moved on. Now I just have to cope with the residue of betrayal, anger, etc. It could be worse; I could still be a current student !! | ||
| in_the_zone Junior Member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 47 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 67.176.40.134 |
Although my time at RSE was only a year, I dove into it with gusto and I would say that I too was one who was not necessarily lacking in anything spiritually-minded. For me, it was more about achievement. I saw RSE as an opportunity to do outrageous things and achieve outrageous results. So prior to each event, I prepared dilligently, (actually it was rigorously) and I got what I wanted at the events and then some. And I will admit, I felt pretty "top shelf" compared to many of the people there...I concluded I was one of the 2% that attended RSE who "got it" as ramtha said. But I didn't do a very good job of looking at myself in the mirror while engaging in all this RE tomfoolery. I had become quite ego-inflated and arrogant. I did not exit RSE because I saw this...I only saw it after I left RSE and a few months had passed when I realized that for all my achievement grandiosity, they were really hollow achievements that had no real meaning & value. I never really saw RSE as a cult, just a place full of people with empty lives trying to do something courageous and so I left because I didn't want to become a hanger-on. I now see that RSE is a dangerous place to be and I thank my lucky stars that my spouse and I never went back. I now see that it is indeed a cult. In fact, I was first introduced to RSE in the 1980s by people who were very gung ho about it and they had been in an outer layer of the inner circle of Scientology. I had forgotten all about that until now. I guess they were cult oriented and traded one cult for another. Fortunately, all of them have since moved on and are not in RSE anymore. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 250 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.177.245.142 |
That's interesting to me, because very recently, someone with experience in these matters, told me that it's common/average for people who are "cult prone" (for lack of a better word), to experience 3 - 4 cults during their "search". I have a friend here where I live, (not in the WA area), who was in Scientology for 10 years and had worked her way up to being one of their high level auditors. It was a challenge for her to escape, but she did. Now, she is involved with the Abraham teachings. She also went to one RSE event, but being a very gentle soul, the abruptness (to say the least), and that whole "warrior" type attitude there, didn't work for her at all. I'm glad for that, since I was the one who introduced her. I would take it personally if she had taken a hankerin' to the teachings. She finds the Abraham teachings more to her liking; they are teaching the same stuff and it's in a kind manner. I love her dearly but I challenge her all the time, as that "entity" can't/doesn't PROVE their qualifications, either, by demonstrating that what they say/teach is factual, in this dimension of time and space. I also hear you with regard to the "achievements" at RSE. I was pretty good at most of the disciplines, most of the time. I did not revel in it, except for quietly, as I'm more of a wallflower than the type to bask in the limelight of attention in that way. NOT a judgment; just my personality. I read that book I referred to in an earlier post, which I cherished, as it reflected the dangers of falling prey to "success" of the trappings inherent in intuitive/psychic/whatever you call that, accomplishments. It even went so far as to say, that doing really great things, like major, instant healings on oneself and others, can be a trap, as there is more to life than that. Well, anyway...the bottom line, for *me* (speaking for myself here!) is that as a friend kept saying to me, "We're here to live THIS life, IN PHYSICAL." I was so focused on the ethereal, I was missing out. Busy being a God denying the lowly human existence. Foolish on my part, but I've learned my lesson !!! I won't make that mistake again. I cherish every breath of THIS LIFE in the physical body, with my physical family, my physical dust, my physical laundry, the beauty of this physical earth, etc... yeah !!!!! But in the meanwhile, the likes of RSE is duping many, and it's not alright with me. Nor is it alright that I was defrauded. Spiritually raped. And that IS my OPINION on my experiences there. It is NOT okay. It was my choice to leave, and it was the choice of those responsible for what is presented at RSE to allow it to be run in a manner that verbally ridicules, disempowers, berates, financially strains (or ruins), and other related things, its "beloved students." This is love? Believe that and you can also believe 2 + 2 = 5. But I only said those horrible things to you, and made you walk that field for 12 hours until you could hardly stand up anymore, and swore at you and called you an a*s*o*l* for your OWN GOOD, because you are so wretched ! (sound familiar?) Some call that abuse, not love. Leaving that hel* for the freedom of living a real life in this real world, is at least a breath of fresh air ! There truly is Life After RSE. | ||
| in_the_zone Junior Member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 48 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 67.176.40.134 |
You know, this site rocks. Looking back 6 months ago since I first found this site and started posting, my perspective on RSE has indeed changed. Not so much because my opinions have been altered directly as a result of other postings, but the postings have caused me to take a really good hard look at the delusions I create. For example, the delusion of spiritual "achievement" or that doing those disciplines at RSE have anthing to do with "spiritual" in the first place....or have anything to do with anything of value. My perspective has changed in part due to the sharings on this site but mostly because I have taken them and allowed them to rattle my tree to see what falls out. And I am happy to say that I am much smarter or at least more discerning about offerings such as those at RSE. Like you, watcha, I too have a lifetime peppered with somewhat deep inner experiences. It started at age 16 out of the blue and it was quite discheveling to my self image and what I thought was my place in the world. And so for 40 years I have been trying to find a place within me where I can find congruency between deep inner experiences and the outer world which has been a challenge. I have now come to the restful spot that there is no such things as two worlds and that living between 2 worlds is a delusion. And that delusion, long held onto by me, has finally flew the coop. I would venture a guess that there are a lot of people who have multi-dimensional experiences out of the blue. It can be disconcerting and because of this people look for an answer to find congruency or some sort of experience or knowledge that can explain it all. I suspect there are many people at RSE and other cults who find their way there in an attempt to find resolution and peace of mind. We go to places like RSE with open minds and yearning hearts. Little do we realize we're just pawns in a multi-million dollar entereprise that is designed to fleece us of our capital and our self-respect. We're so eager, even desperate to experience truth...not book-learned truth, but truth in our souls that we easily and gratefully overlook any signs that we would normally notice...such as all the goings on at RSE...the contradictions, the rampant alcoholism, the mental abuse, etc. But in the end, I think it's all about developing the will. We learn to wake up to a cult and just say no and walk away. I don't think it's disrespectful to oneself to wake up one day in a cult. It develops enromous self-respect to walk away. Having said that, I would still prefer it that people learn the wily ways of the RSE CEO and steer clear. This site is very good in offering the suggestion: Buyer Beware. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 251 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.177.245.142 |
"the wily ways of the RSE CEO" LOL !!!! I love that ! Never heard it summed up that way before. ITZ...my "intuition" was intact prior to RSE, during RSE, and CONTINUES AFTER RSE. I imagine that is true for all of us. I agree that there really are no boundaries between the physical/etheric/intuitive realms (I think that's what you're saying). It's ALL a part of who we are. As someone else said to me, they believe (and I agree) that it's not something we consciously control like turning on a light switch. If we are supposed to have an intuitive dream, or feeling (etc), we will. It happens when it needs to, or is supposed to happen. It's integrated into who we are. Walking the field for a gazillion hours, telling oneself that one is ...insert something one is not... then guess what ? We are not that. It's true, too, about overlooking red flags because we're so eager/desperate to experience truth and the claims that RSE makes, that folks can achieve. Of course, those are the "get you in the door" claims. After you've been in awhile, the rules change and you're told a semi-secret; that only about 5% of the students will ever "make it". So, then you try harder cuz you sure as heck want to be in that 5% !!!! Uh huh. To date, there is no 5%. There isn't even 1%. There isn't even ONE PERSON who has consistently accomplished achievement of all the claims made by that "school", of Godhood in the flesh. I have to ask, if the teachings worked, why then in about 25 years of teachings, and thousands and thousands of hours of teachings and doing disciplines, has the "school" FAILED to produce a God In Flesh, manifesting UNlimited/anything/anytime/anywhere/healing the world ? It would be a cinch. Yet most, don't even have the money to pay for their next event. Discrepancy ? ...grin... What hasn't the RSE CEO manifested Godhood ? Anyone with a few bucks can "manifest" a facelift. That's not age reversal. That's not living until you're 200 years old without death. If in truth, we are spirits inhabiting a physical body, then we cannot be anything but connected to God...so might as well get on with LIVING OUR LIVES, which is why we are alive. To live, and give it all you got. Whistle while you work...and play...and do no harm. That's my two cents. |
