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http://www.foundationformeditativestudies.org/

Well, I have the courage to start this new thread. I am sure, followers of this group would like to say, Mind Your Own Business... or do a bit of name calling... but, as I see it... the TRUTH is OUT THERE... and should be known.
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I had been with their movement 'the foundation for meditative studies' for 15 years and had been in their residency program twice and was involved in previous mastery courses before the current one.

I knew to leave for it was more being run by Penny who is on crack and extremely violent. Their are regular severe beatings going on within the residency program and it is creeping into the outer circle.

It has been spoken in the earlier years that the fastest way to work through soul issues so one can enlighten is to be physically beaten, next is to be screamed at by Penny. Mafu rarely does it because people started leaving.

Ocassionally the beatings leak out to the general public. Penny is very foul mouthed and is an ordained Swami by Muktanandas sucessor Nityananda.

When I left, the nightmares with Penny coming into my dreams to continue holding my mind saying if I didn' t return she would continue attacking me psychically and it follows me into the day.

I have spoken to many others who have left who say they are haunted by her as well. They have told their inner core Mastery students that they will die if they ever leave the Mastery course. Mafu and Penny are very suductive and it is easy to get caught up.

They are always raising money. Mafu empowered penny to work with us in our dreamstates to help work through issues and she has become increasingly mad through her drug abuse and is very scary and when she is on she can be seductively sweet and is a master at manipulation and mind control.

It is a worshipping cult where there is bowing and strict obedience if you are in their residency or mastery course and some peole are buying into that they will be beat to assist them to enlighten which is mostly behind closed doors.

Please be careful, for they do not let go once you commit. They are in Ashland Oregon. their ashram is Paramatmandharma.

From an Ex- Mafu Cult Memeber

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The TRUTH IS OUT THERE... Some Where....
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From an Ex- Mafu Cult Memeber

Just for more info to help others this is a very sex based cult where penny has slept with many of the residents and some students and Mafu makes out with some of the woman mostly in his chambers. I was one of them.


There is vodka and beer partys constantly in chambers when Mafu is in the body sometimes down in the temple. in the early 90's Mafu gave many of us at a party a form of LSD called magic mushrooms while everyone else was drinking and he says he is God, an illumed lord who has taken the body to help humanity!

They keep everyone confused and reality distorted with high teachings and low teachings in the name of God.

The cult is also very fear based of losing favor with Mafu or penny if they investigate their doubts. Everyone is just sweeping everything under the carpet...their true knowings that things are off.

Mafu has told us Penny is enlightened and she has been on antidepressants... coverup for crack. enlightenment is a master of love and needs no drugs.

Its all been rhetoric to keep the money coming in and the power over others lives going.

May this foundation built on lies purify and the truth be revealed and everyone freed!

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The point of these post... I too was involved with this group... believe me, for years after I left, I was not willing to come forward or speak up. If you look around the internet you will find very few negative post from this group... it truly is a very MIND CONTROLLING group.

It becomes very confusing when you experience such LOVE from the Mafu the 2nd personality of the Channel Penyy Torres... and the WATCH and SEE how the Channel EXPRESSES her enlightenment.

OF course, there are men on death role that some would identify the same way.

It is difficlt to understand how the wisdom comes from the mouth of such a foul mouthed human.

Belive me, I have never cussed in my life... the RATH that I received from this chanlles included every nasty word you can imagine... and of course told I was the Devil.

It seems to me, that the State of Oregon should investigate this organization... particularly since GRANTS are being awared for the Oregon Tiger Sancuary... the residents are treated like SLAVES to live there.

There is lots of sex, drugs, and meditation happening there.

They place a Happy Face on the great darkness that goes on in this group.

If you look at the web site, you will see Happiness and Joy and inspiration words.... it is a bit much considering the darkness that is there.

Anyone out there know anything about this goup.?
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http://www.cosmicfool.com/discussion/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000729.html

From Cosmic Fool... a bunch of post about this group.
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http://fakeguru.com


Here is some information form FakeGuru.com

Penny Torres, aka "Mafu," now alias "Swami Paramananda Saraswatti"

SUMMARY: First a "Ramtha" clone (Ramtha is a disembodied spirit who allegedly possesses a Montana woman, J.Z. Knight), now "Mafu" has morphed into a Gurumayi wannabe. Said to be a former Playboy Bunny, this cutiepie started out as an absurd "channeler" of an "ascended master" called "Mafu."

With pretty looks, the channeling shtick, and lots of vague "new age" blather Torres was able to assemble a small following of naive people around her in Ashland, Oregon -- mostly female of course. Getting the scent of the greater glamor found in Indian guru hood, she now poses as an Indian "swami" complete with orange robes of the renunciant and the "guru reception line."

Her house in Ashland is now called the "ashram," and a glimpse of Torres/Mafu is termed darshan.. (In reality the ancient swami orders of Sankara do not admit women. As much as females may seek to steal, there is no such thing as a female "swami.")

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Hey..

Your Fake channel stole my Fake channels teacher…
It was truly embarrassing to see Penny do her Mafu impersonation of "Ramtha".
But does Penny know that JZ Knight is slowly but surely ditching "Ramtha"
and is now presenting herself as the star of the show..
Soon you will hear that JZ Knight has become the first women Christ in history..
I kid you not..
Perhaps Penny will beat her to it...
Speaking as a former student of RSE for over seven years... it is time for us all to wake up….
Claim back our hearts and minds from these spiritual predators,
and to find the courage to speak out and warn others.
Here is a link to our neck of the FactNet woods..

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/779.html?1080795467

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secrets..

Thank you...........
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Hi David

Thank you for the post... and video...

I was going to have these removed but perhaps it is good to leave them alone.

As far as JZ being the FIRST Chirst in History... don't worry... Penny has already claimed the title and also named others as equial.. but their deal is going BEYOND a measley little Christ...

Yep... They are suppose to be teaching their followers to Become God/Man/Women... the Lord God and Then Lord. So in that regard... the tiney little title of CHRIST has been poo pooped already.

One upmansship... who knows... it is all a bit crazy.

If you look out over the past 30 years... all of these people can SPEAK BEAUTIFUL words at times... and BRILLIANCE but talk is cheap and does not cook the rice. LOL

It is AMAZING how in both groups... the only MASTERY that seems attainable is POVERTY... yep in both camps... POVERTY has been the highest degree of consistent mastery amoung both group of followers...


Except for the Channels,they laugh all the way to the bank...as they SING they stupid songs...I Want to Be a Billionaire... I got an email from JZ singingthat not too long ago... it was creapy.

and they have got to ride on the glory of their devoties funds for a very long time... is that Mastery... or a Con Artist using Words to Manipulate the masses?

The answer is .... it is ALWAYS the students fault... you studid slob of a person... smile.

Mafu / Penny says it is not GOOD TO DISPLAY your POWER... because others will only want to wroship you..... HA...HA...HA

That is only OK if you are actually MAFU... but don't Rock the Boad or you will be beaten by the channel or sent packing...

WOOOPS..... Mafu is now a Guru with all the Hindu Pooja's .... and Rituals.. ect and Penny is a Swammi.. so the story has changed a bit.

Do as I say .... Not as I do..

So the teachinig is... GIVE UP Christianty... and become a Hindu... Buddhist or whatever is the game in the moment.

I don't know about the private life of JZ...but
I do know a little about Penny's group... and it is not a very pretty picture behind the closed doors.

As you slam your face in the ground and be a good little deciple / slave.... and hope you are not beaten in the name of God/Karma.... of course in this group it is pointed out constantly that you have Bad or Good Karma.

I found it AMAZING that if either of these being Mafu or Ramth were Liget... then why did they seem to discredit each other? BIG EGOS of the Lords of the Wind. Smile.

Seems these LORDS do not like to SHARE the CENTER STAGE with anyone... as it is. Smile.

My God is better than yours... it is all quite sad to watch.

If these groups were truly intersted in the WORLD... then why not JOIN and UNIFY a MESSAGE of Peace.

Goooooosh... and they expect us poor slobs of a human to get it... When they don't love one another either... smile.

When you step back and just Watch and Listen... it has all became a bet CRAZY.

Beam me up Scottie... No intelligent life here in either of these groups.
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This message has been removed by FactNet per the request of the original poster, "tiger".

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A Little Christmas Humor about Channeling

I want to share with you all a wonderful new channeled entity named LaRaMu as channeled by Anita Gimmic.

LaRaMu is from BEYOND all Dimension. LaRaMu is an Illuminated Lord.... Greater than the GREATEST Channel on our planet today.

He is Not from that 5th Dimension Group... the band that did Aquarius and Up, Up and Away, but from home... HE IS THE ONE... Superman.

LaRaMu explains why they chose to communicate with us, "Well, you see, in your vibrational Universe, where no one can claim superiority over anyone else, we detected an exceptionally bright light. Intrigued, we followed this light to it's source and found one, Mimi BoCeck. We have come to communicate with Mimi and help her in her quest to feel superior to everyone else. We have since discovered that the source of her light was not her clear Soul, but the pounds of eye-shadow she applies on a daily basis. But, hey, even beings from the Higher Realms can make mistakes, what makes you think you're so superior...."

Tapes by LaRaMu:

The Wonder And Power Of Love Bombing

On this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu says that, "God is Love, and You are God, and God is Beautiful, and you are So Beautiful and Love is real and you are real I am the Walrus, koo-koo-ka-choo".

The Magick of Deception

This is a most powerful and seminal tape. LaRaMu discusses how to deceive your friends, spouse, employer, the government. This is it. Once you have mastered the information on this tape you will be all-powerful.

The Power of Deception

Ok, so we missed a few points about deception on the "Magick of Deception" tape. This is the one. Yeah, that's it. After this tape you will truly be all-powerful.

The Wonder of Deception

Right. Well, it seems that you people are so stupid, we need to put out yet another tape on deception. This one for sure will do the job.

The Beauty of Deception

OK, now that you have finally gotten the Magick, Power and Wonder of Deception, you may be wondering why your life is still f**cked up. Well, that's because you haven't dealt with the Beauty of Deception.

On this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu explains how one can deceive oneself and others into believing that Mimi is beautiful.

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Continue...... #2

Stopping Dissent In It's Tracks

It's really a pain in the butt to have inferior people disagree with us. LaRaMu is here to help by explaining how to stop people from dissing you. Contains a beautiful and powerful hypnosis... uh, meditation.

Tying Your Own Shoes: The Skill

Most of us think we are quite capable of tying our own shoes. Well, think again! LaRaMu explains how we inhibit our growth by not tying our shoes properly. How many times have you tripped over your shoelaces, even after all the processing and programming you have done?

It's not because you are bad or wrong. It's because you are an idiot. LaRaMu have never been held back by the tedium of tying shoes, and therefore can help us gain an unprecedented understanding of the subtleties of proper shoe tying.

Tying Your Own Shoes: The Art

You probably thought you had shoe tying issues after listening to the Skill of Tying Your Shoes seven times and clearing away a multitude of blockages. Well, you may have learned the skill, but LaRaMu is here now to teach you the art of shoe-tying. You have long since moved beyond being an idiot. Now you are a soulless moron. Allow the Magick of LaRaMu' mind-control techniques to convince you that you are better than everyone except for the Gangsters.

The Indescribable Power Of Character Assassination

Sometimes, in spite of all the wonderful deception and love-bombing, some schmuck still tries to hold you accountable for your actions. What can you do?

In this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu describes the awesome power of assassinating your enemy's character. This technique has been used by dictators and cult-leaders for millennia to great effect. Allow LaRaMu to show you the Character Assassination Mill, the Lagoon of Destroyed Reputations and the House of Ill-Repute.

The Wonder Of Sycophancy

On this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu describes how you can control the controllers by sucking up to them and using their inflated ego against them. In the Old Age, many were well-practiced in the art of brown-nosing. But good, old-fashioned brown-nosing sometimes isn't enough. We need to move to the next level of brown-nosing with LaRaMu' trademarked "Leveraged Sycophancy".

With this new level, one is able to suck up while appearing to be spiritual. One can flatter while continuing to feel better-than. This is a powerful and seminal tape - oh, right, we already said that...

LaRaMu accepts suggestions for future tapes.
(C) LaRaMu Productions 2006

Any ideas?

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Continue ....#3

Because your Hyper-Higher-Selves have asked, and we do have PERMISSION; and because Mimi wants another wing on her Ranch, LaRaMu has released a new series of tapes:

The Frivolous Vortex

The Sirius Vortex opened a few years ago and we all expected unprecedented miracles. Of course they didn't happen, because LaRaMu is full of excrement. But the Frivolous Vortex, due to open again on March 29, 2008, will provide the world with more humor than has ever been known.

The Frivolous Vortex has not opened for 30,000 light years. (Yes, we know a light year is a measure of distance, not time, but time and space are both illusions. Since they are both illusions, they are the same thing, so the same measures can be used for each. And don't claim that LaRaMu' logic was more sound.)

We can use the energy of the Vortex to amuse ourselves at the expense of LaRaMu and Mimi Doing so releases certain chemicals in our brain which correspond with our Eternal Heritage and hastens our Journey Home - wherever the hell that may be.

Getting Away With Murder

You've stashed the evidence. You've assassinated your enemy's character. But there are still those who would hold you accountable.

On this monumental tape, LaRaMu provides many powerful techniques for getting over, including the Race Card technique, the "I forgot" technique, the "depends on the meaning of 'is' technique", and the most powerful technique to date, the expensive lawyer technique. Don't let the bastards get you down!

As a powerful magical Lord, you deserve to be free of the moral and legal restrictions imposed upon the weak masses becuase YOU are so special.

Unstoppable Mediocrity

We have all experienced mediocrity for short periods of time. We relish those experiences. But, sooner or later, we accidentally encounter a success.

This can be frightening, as we know we are too stupid and ineffectual to have created the success ourselves. How can we prevent these annoying successes from happening? You guessed it - LaRaMu has a tape.

On this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu discusses the benefits of mediocrity and the hurdles which stand in our way, such as humility, gratitude and intelligence.

Being Groovy

Most in the Consecutive Reality gave up on being groovy in the early 1970's. Some, most notably in California, are attempting to keep the dream alive.

They try to keep it alive by refusing to bathe or work. LaRaMu warns against such adolescent attempts at being groovy.

To really "get in the groove", one must, like, dig righteous chanting music, man, and, like, go with the flow. On this powerful and seminal tape, LaRaMu invokes the spirit of Maynard G. Krebs. If you're not old enough to remember Maynard, then you are doomed to being un-groovy forever.

Utilizing the Gullibility of Others
LaRaMu admits to getting the idea for this tape from RamLaMu.

There is much money and fame within the wrinkles of Massive Gullibility. This monumental tape examines the pitfalls of underestimating the gullibility of others, while suggesting techniques to harness this gullibility. Contains a beautiful and manipulative meditation.

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It does not matter where you go in God‘ creation, your immediate environment is going to reflect your state of consciousness.... simply a Point-of-View...

YOU ARE... Projections of the "I"... being captured and expressed by the small "i"

Heaven or Hell is not a place to which you go, we are just where we always have been, at home.

It is always the point of view.

Row Row Row Your Boat Gently Down the river.
Merily Merily Merily Merily... Life goes on forever.

Did you remember to smile and find joy in your life?
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Imitation is the highest form of flattery, but this "LaRaMu" is actually "Latrinis" the mascot entity created for the Cosmic Fool website, and this is copyrighted material. Please correct the posts and accurately attribute the material, secrets.

http://www.cosmicfool.com/latrinis/

Besides, it's more fun to meet Latrinis on his own turf! Enjoy!
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Ok, but In all Honesty, I have NEVER seen that part of CosmicFool.com web site.

I have no interest in Lazaras never saw this one.

I have seen the Discussion Board at CosmicFool.com.

The origional came to me long ago via email.

http://www.cosmicfool.com

Your point is well taken. Here is The Link.. and you have already given yourself credit.

http://www.cosmicfool.com/latrinis/
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What happened to your web site... no one is posting any more... for 2 years?

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No worries, secrets. It's just that the Latrinis material represents quite a bit of creative work on the part of the actual author, so we'd like to give credit where credit is due.

The Cosmic Fool website has served its original purpose. Those of us Lazaris believers who contributed there have had our say, and it's time to move on for us.

We are always open to hosting an ongoing dialogue about cults, psychological coersion, undue influence, indoctrination, or creative mockery of "Sacred Cows", etc.

We have hosted a discussion about Mafu, at one time it seemed to be the only one on the net. That came about as a result of someone confusing Peny North of Concept/Synergy, the Lazaris Cult with the Penny who claims to channel Mafu.

We are planning on upgrading the message board software on the Cosmic Fool board, as we are committed to maintaining the information on the site forever if possible. If you or anyone is interested in moderating a new discussion there, we are open to negotiating that.

We are not open to moderating the site ourselves any longer, however. We are long since over discussing "Lazaris", and have moved on to other interests and endeavors, although we will re-open the discussion should any new information become available.

I'm very happy to see this discussion about Mafu/Penny Torres cult. Good for you for getting the word out. I know from experience that it isn't always an easy thing to do, but definitely worth it in the long run. Let us know how and if we can support your efforts!
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Thank you Cosmic Fool...

For me, I am just about done with my writing...

I just wanted to POST about this group because in this Mafu group... no one seems to have the courage to call a spade a spade...and be open and honest.

I noticed all the TIGER Post have been removed... as usual... FEAR or SHAME is present.

Where is the Self-Love when you have fear or shame?

These people live in FEAR and they HIDE from the truth... they cover up the sex, drugs and beatings.

It is time that all of these groups be held accountable for SELLING swamp land in LALA Land...or at least admit it was a scam.

The only people getting rich here in the name of god are these channels... yet, it has been spoken in these groups to move beyond the NEEDS of worldly things. Yea.

That teaching caused many to sell their homes, businesses and leave children behind in the name of God... to later be send away, with 100.00 in their pocket and living at the fate and hands of anyone who would open their doors to them. Now that is Manifesting Happiness and Joy.

I can look back over my many years with them and see the very subtle programming.

Particularly ALL THINGS are GOOD ENOUGHT To Be God... and if you DARE QUESTION... then YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM.

But if you lie to yourself... and KEEP QUIET... that real nasty COVERT behavior.... you are someway better or more illuminataed than others.

Oh please... give me a new age break.

You can tell by the lack of anyone SPEAKING UP the degree of programming that is going on in this group. They simply will NEVER question GOD.

Covert Behavior... and Hidding the truth... to me means you support the lies.... these people really belive if they leave they are doomed.

and that beating people to speed up KARMA is a good thing... of course just say the mantra like a zombi... I am So Happy.... Beat me... I am So Happy... The scars are not so bad... I am so Happy.

How crazy is all of this.

I say,they are just as doomed FOLLOWING they will all come again.

FEAR Magnifies when it is held covertly

But what happends the day the channel dies? and that day will come... what then?

They they are truly doomed.

I see no one who has Stood Forth as A Soverign Lord .... this was the vision for 25 years. The group has became similary to the Estern Guru's.
Come come to me, I will save your . smile.

Thank you for your post. It is a blessing that Cosmicfool.com / Factnet.org and RickRoss.com allows people like myself to express and speak up, although, when others tried to reason with me, for years, I simply would not listen.

It is so intersting that everyone is wrong if they dare question these groups... but in fact questions open the doors to greater truth and the evolution of self.

Merry Christmas

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Secrets, what you're doing is a blessing to all of us! There is more value in someone like you standing up for yourself and sharing your process of leaving a vile cult than you might imagine.

The Cosmic Fool board gets a LOT of hits from people who are interested in Mafu. We've never been able to get the full story though, because no one has been courageous enough to speak up. I don't know if the visitors to CF are followers or critics of Mafu/Penny Torres, but there's been a stream of them showing up on our logs for quite some time now.

Creeps like Penny Torres and Jach Pursel have no more of a clue about who or what "God" might be than a goldfish does. But I realize that what you're saying is true, the followers are terrorized into believing that they do, and that they will have to risk the wrath of God should they stand up to these abusers.

I hope to live to see the day when this kind of conscious, deliberate, and mercenary indoctrination becomes illegal. These cult leaders need to serve some prison time, IMO. I am all too well aware of the intense amount of damage they cause due to our hosting of the CF site, and our own experiences.

Secrets, I hope you continue to speak up. You have my support and I'll assist you to every extent possible if you do. If you'd like to post on the CF board, just let me know, and we'll arrange to open it up for new registrations again.
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secrets
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Username: secrets

Post Number: 50
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 70.125.85.168
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for you're support Cosmicfool..

I have a very good life and simply do not have the time to get all caught up in these things.

I do like to occassional make my little post.

I post only because NO ONE... is very honest these days with self.

Out of Fear or whatever... but truly, we do have a right to question.

It is only by remaining silent that bad behavior is allowed to continue... looking the other way as someone is being beaten only teaches the beater that it is ok.

Yes, in the beginning days, I had some wonderful experiences with Mafu... he was a tool... a vision of myself for a while.

But, as the bible says..

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.

I do not hate anyone... but I do ask that the behavior of the wicked be examined.

I wonder if Buddha or Jesus would be able to just look away and WATCH a Minister BEAT someone... and just brush it off and say it is their Karma?

Seems to me, this is JUSTIFICATION of actions... not the Ascension Beyond them.

I enjoyed your web site at Cosmicfool... it is wonderful to have places to post.... and SPEAK UP... for me... COVERT BEHAVIOUR of keeping these SECRETS in the name of God is not a very high thing to do.

Smile.
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david_mccarthy
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Username: david_mccarthy

Post Number: 236
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 12.178.97.66
Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cosmicfool..

You have been a great inspiration to many..
your courage and spirit is still reverberating through the realms.
We have finally launched our own website “enlighten me free”, here is the link... WWW.enlightenmefree.com
If you would like to say a few words as our guest speaker page we would be honored, But I totally understand that you have moved on past the channeling quagmires..

David.
LARSE@ywave.com

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