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     workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 87.106.27.17 |
emails below from the buried thread: http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/24852.html (Message edited by workadmin on November 09, 2006) | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 85.214.66.61 |
posted by danrepent: -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Nelson [mailto:enelson8735@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:07 AM To: mike@hisfeet.org Subject: about "spousal authority"... Hi, I don't know where to start (like usual). I found that "spousal authority" letter you wrote last year under my bed tonight. Then not two minutes later I opened up the "women's role" book and there it was again! Anyway, I needed to read it tonight. Vince got caught in the p**nography again a few weeks ago and since then it has been an all out war. He is afraid of losing the family/marriage so he has totally bullied me in a corner-- even almost taking them out of state w/out me to prove that he has the right to be with "his children" w/out my approval. I have been so full of fear (in many areas) but specifically that he will try to take the children and accuse me of being in a cult. He has used my mother in this (who already has her problems with me because she wants a relationship that i can't give to her) and she has stood with him. I talked to some ladies tonight and that was hard too. I will forward "notes" that Shelly typed out afterward. I am tired of being a wimp. I agree with what was said. I really don't know how to walk through this. Vince keeps accusing me of controlling when I protect the children and even just in directing them. There is something in his accusation that has shaken me. It's true I have not wanted him to be in control and he hasn't been until he got caught in sin and started blaming me. He says I've taken control over the house. What choice did i have? He has been gone and he's no leader. I know I need to protect the children, but I can't stop him from taking them again without a fight. I want to see why it shakes me. I feel sooo powerless. I feel like his tactics on saying he was taking them to Pennsylvania worked. I am BEGGING for a miracle!!!!!! I am asking God to forgive me and deliver me from the fear of man. I have to let go of what every person i know might think! I want to hear and obey! I have been afraid because I have nowhere to go. I want to tell you this and not fear the risk. I have been asking God since I found the computer stuff if i should stay or go. And i still don't know but i am asking God to make me completely willing. While no one has told me what to do i feel like in the conversation tonight it was encouraged to protect the children no matter what. On the same token it was said by someone that I haven't proven myself with Jesus so i couldn't stay with anyone of them. I am probably wrong to be offended but I am. I don't deny that so many selfish motives have been exposed for which i am so grateful to Him. But something about thinking I have to prove something to people is what i am trying to stay away from. I believe His timing is perfect in all of this. PLEEAASE rebuke, correct, shine light, etc. love, elizabeth | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 85.214.66.61 |
(continued) -----Original Message----- From: "mike" <mike@hisfeet.org> To: "'Elizabeth Nelson'" <enelson8735@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:15:31 -0500 Subject: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking betrayal"... Hi Liz........ I do understand the difficulties here, no doubt. The pain and confusion and unknowns can be quite anguishing, beyond question. You must TRUST Him that if you do your best for HIM, it will work out in the end. If someone told you "You must not murder" they would not be "telling you what to do" - but only reporting what God has said. In your many opportunities to murder someone, then, you should remember God's Command, and SPECIFICALLY CHOOSE those decisions, on your own, of how to apply that Truth. The same is true for "YOU MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN." There are many specifics you must apply on your own to obey this Command from God. The Command to "not be worse than an infidel" by not protecting them, and the many other Scriptures are not "telling you what to do" -- but giving you GOD'S MANDATE for you. You'll have to figure out what that means, day to day. As for the "living situation" I'm sure they didn't mean to "insult" you, but just to point out that "the double minded woman is unstable in all her ways" and that unless you are "without wavering, fully persuaded" and not a "weak-willed woman" -- then you will vacillate and waver and be unstable, NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. Perhaps you can find a "christian attorney" or someone who can tell you what you can legally do to protect yourself from a fornicating, abusive, child-napper, should you choose to do that? But, that's all up to you. I do know that even pagan women don't put up with the abusive situation, the covenant breaking betrayals, and "locking children in rooms away from their mother" and things you have tolerated. But, that's all up to you...... Regardless, PRAYING WITH YOU........ Love, mike | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 85.214.66.61 |
posted by Danrepent on behalf of Elizabeth Nelson ----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Nelson [mailto:enelson8735@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:48 AM To: mike@Hisfeet.org Subject: Fwd: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking betrayal"... Thanks for telling the truth... I know something has to change. I wasn't insulted by anything that's been said except about "proving myself"-- I'm sure that i took that the wrong way and i want to clear that up. i stayed up last night looking up child custody laws and divorce laws. Anyway---thank you for praying and listening and writing back. Love, elizabeth ---------- Original message ---------- From: "mike" <mike@hisfeet.org> To: "'Elizabeth Nelson'" <enelson8735@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:02:57 -0500 Subject: RE: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking betrayal"... I have always thought of you as "very special"....... Stay close to Him..... xoxoox | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 85.214.66.61 |
Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 12:15 pm: Posted by First_Truth: Here are some examples of some emails that you all may be interested in. Plus if I may add I witnessed first hand Mike counseling a wife to take her children and run if her husband tried to take the children with him to a local church gathering (non-Peterite or should I say anti-Peterite). This was right on the heels of a "movement" in the group for everyone to make sure everyone has a passport and that it is up to date. Some emails (note the commentary at the bottom): -----Original Message----- From: mike [mailto:mike@Hisfeet.org] To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>' Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: slander/willls Hi <wife>... Well, we COULD start with <husband>'s slander and namecalling this way: it puts him in direct judgment and into the "fires of hell" according to Jesus. No matter how he "feels" about it........ (Mat. 5:23) -----Original Message----- From: mike [mailto:mike@Hisfeet.org] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2003 4:13 PM To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>' >> they probably think I'm terrible for not going to church every Sonday with my husband what kind of unBiblical vocabulary ("go to church") is THAT??! Yucko! As for <friend> and the rest - don't get into a discusion trying to justify yourself. NOWHERE does the Bible command you to hold hands and give away affection to a hypocrite. Jesus SURELY didn't! (Mat.23!) Try to be kind as much as possible, don't argue, but DON'T YOKE WITH HYPOCRISY. -----Original Message----- From: mike [mailto:mike@Hisfeet.org] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2003 1:02 PM To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>' <wife> you should say, "<husband> what do you want from me? tell me how you want me- to be except don't expect me to believe you're a christian when i see your temper and your life. i can be a great wife in every other respect i know how, but the Scriptures define a christian in luke 9:57-63 and 1jn.3 and many other places, and the Spirit of Jeus inside of you? i see no way base on the lack of "fruit of the spirit" and the obvious continuation in "the acts of the sinful nature" in Gal.5. So tell me how you want me to be in matters NOT related to 'church' and 'prayer' and the like, and I'll do my best to change. But, until i see you have a conversion experience and the marks of conversion in luke9, 1jn.3, gal.5 etc, DON'T demand that i accept you "christianity" until it meets BIBLICAL measurements! Everything else i want to improve in, but don't ask me to deny the BIBLE and Teachings of JESUS and accept yours and <friend>'s definitions instead of the exact quotes from JESUS." -----Original Message----- From: mike [mailto:mike@Hisfeet.org] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:19 PM To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>' Subject: RE: <friend> put us on the radio 2-nite! <wife>, perhaps you can highlight that legal advertisement that I sent you when answering your question about slander and libel -- and smile and hand it to <friend> and ask him if he really likes living in a house, instead of an apartment? -------------------------------------- Continued to next message... (Message edited by workadmin on November 09, 2006) | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.157.15.26 |
Names edited out (except Mike) for covering over the effected family. Commentary on the above emails: 1) Jan.14, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife how to judge the salvation of her husband. 2) Jan.15, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife to NOT hold hands with her husband or give affection to him. Mike again tells her how to judge him (a "Hypocrite"). He also says not to "YOKE" with her husband (which may mean NOT to have sex with him). 3) Jan.20, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife how to interact with her husband, and again telling her how to judge his Christian testimony. Mike directly tells her to NOT go to church or to PRAY with her husband. Ironically, Mike is telling her how to be a "biblical wife" while telling her to withhold most things a wife should be giving her husband. If you wish to contact me my address is: then_freedom@yahoo.com In Christ's freedom, First_Truth | ||
| workadmin New member Username: workadmin Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 204.13.236.244 |
Posted by cult_fighter on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 2:11 pm: === Don't forget the "secret email" on Mike's own website!! In this one, Mike is not only secretly counseling a wife to NOT submit to her husband (because of his falling away from their cultic beliefs), but he concludes with his trademark "Love mike". http://yourkingdomcome.com/authority.htm Also note how this Peters-following wife exhibits ALL of the now familiar Peters descriptions of an "evil husband". He is "bullying", "controlling", and EVEN like the Muslim in the movie "Not Without My Daughter". As Elizabeth (above) testified, this movie has been handed back and forth between Peters-following women. |
