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david_mccarthy
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A "Ramtha" quote from the RSE Primary Retreat, March 26, 2000.
"Prozac isn't a drug. It is an inhibitor,


Another "Ramtha" quote from the RSE Boktau IV event, October 1, 1998.
"In the old days, really old days, leaders of continents, nations, and principalities taught people how to think. To help them along, they used to put an herb called rauwolfia in the community water well. In other words, quietly they endeavored to put the herb equivalent of Prozac in the village water well. The reason they did that was because leaders of peoples a long, long time ago had a very different responsibility than the famed and fortunate ones of today. They had the exquisite duty of reinstating confidence, protection, and equalness within the people, and rauwolfia was a wonderful drug in water that relieved people's insecurity."



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Prozac seeping into water supplies
KEVIN HURLEY
THE anti-depressant drug Prozac is being taken in such large quantities in Britain that it has entered water supplies.
Experts from the Environmental Agency are calling for an immediate investigation after it emerged that quantities of the medication were found in rivers and groundwater used for drinking supplies.
http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=912662004

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THE STORY BEHIND PROZAC...
the KILLER DRUG
by Thomas G. Whittle and Richard Wieland
In the face of ever-mounting evidence of the dangers of the psychiatric drug Prozac, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has balked at moving against the antidepressant which has accumulated more adverse reaction reports than any other substance in the 24-year history of the FDA's adverse drug reaction reporting system.
Based on documents recently obtained by FREEDOM under the Freedom of Information Act, as of September 16, 1993, 28,623 reports of adverse reactions to Prozac had been received by the FDA. These included such effects as delirium, hallucinations, convulsions, violent hostility, aggression, psychosis, 1,885 suicide attempts and 1,734 deaths - 1,089 by suicide.


http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html

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This is the first time a court has blamed a violent killing and would-be suicide on one of the Prozac class of drugs - the SSRIs, or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors - and is likely to help those families with civil cases against the drug companies.
http://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/media/zoloft/Guardian.htm

http://www.drugs.com/Prozac/index.html


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david_mccarthy
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From Joe Szimhart.....

David,
I read the Nov 2006 RSE newsletter with its claim that Ramtha explained the "mechanism and benefits of Prozac in May 1996, exactly ten years before the scientists disclosed their discovery based on the study of lab mice."

JZ or whoever put that newsletter together must be truly delusional if she or he thinks anyone but a naive true believer will think the "Ram" did not read up on the drug before talking about it. Furthermore, there is nothing in the quote from Ramtha in the Nov 2006 newsletter that reflects the discovery mentioned in the Scientific American magazine report by David Biello (2006) about how fluoxetine "increases the number of neurons in the adult brain."

Research on the chemicals that led to fluoxetine (prozac) began in 1960.

from wikipedia.com (fluoxetine)

History
Prozac was invented at Eli Lilly by a team headed by Dr. Ray W. Fuller, with Drs. Bryan B. Molloy and David T. Wong. They were later awarded the Pharmaceutical Discoverer's Award from NARSAD (National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and Depression) for this. [1] [2] The molecule of Prozac has its origins in Diphenhydramine. In the 1960s it was found that diphenhydramine inhibits reuptake of the neurotransmitter serotonin. This discovery led to a search for viable antidepressants with similar structures and fewer side effects, culminating in the invention of fluoxetine (Prozac), a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI). A similar search had previously led to the synthesis of the first SSRI zimelidine from chlorpheniramine, also an antihistamine.


[edit] FDA approval and marketing campaign
Eli Lilly's Prozac was approved by the FDA on December 29, 1987 and introduced in the US at the beginning of 1988. The drug became very popular, with millions around the world having taken the medication. In the fall of 2001, Eli Lilly lost a patent dispute with Barr Laboratories and now fluoxetine hydrochloride is manufactured by many companies. Prozac's popularity and selling success has been aided greatly by Lilly's extensive marketing campaign for the drug, considered one of the most successful in the history of American pharmaceuticals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine

Thank you Joe...
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voidgate
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Ramtha stated in the conspiracy days of the early 90's that Rauwolfia was something they put in the village well to sedate the population that they would be more compliant with authority.

Here is some information on it.

Rauwolfia


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Latin name: Rauwolfia serpentina
A Remedy For



Insomnia
Nervousness
Rauwolfia is also used as a remedy for anxiety, abnormal muscle tension, and twitching, In folk medicine, It has been used for fever, diarrhea, general weakness, constipation, intestinal diseases, liver problems, rheumatism, water retention, and mental disorders. However, its effectiveness for such conditions remains unverified.
Asian medicine uses it for giddiness, high blood pressure, slow and painful urination, and wounds. In India, extracts of the plant are used as antidotes for poisonous snake bites.
What It Is; Why It Works
Reserpine, an extract of Rauwolfia, combats high blood pressure, and is found in such prescription blood pressure medications as Diupres and Hydropres. Reserpine also combats irregular heartbeat and has a sedative effect.
Rauwolfia, a small shrub sporting white to pink flowers, is native to India, Indochina, Borneo, Sri Lanka, and Sumatra. Its medicinal properties lie in the dried root. The fresh root has a very bitter and unpleasant taste.

Avoid If...
Rauwolfia can trigger severe depression. Do not take it when depressed.
The drug also tends to stimulate the lining of the digestive tract, so you should avoid it if you have an ulcer or ulcerative colitis.
Avoid Rauwolfia, too, if you are pregnant or nursing, or are taking a drug classified as a monoamine oxidase inhibitor, such as the antidepressants Nardil and Parnate.
Special Cautions
Side effects can include nasal congestion, depression, fatigue, impotence, and slowed reaction time. Use caution when handling machinery or driving.
Taken from website: PDR Health - http://pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/herbaldrugs/102320.shtml

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It appears in the later years of RSE Ramtha's words have been rearanged to benefit authority.

Given the history of corruption and tyranny on the earth do you really think world leaders put Rauwolfia into the well for the benefit of the population?
Just why has Ramtha rearranged his words and for what purpose?

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From Wilkepedia about Rauwolfia:

This plant is used medicinally, both in conventional western medicine, and also in Ayurveda, Unani, and folk medicine. It helps to reduce blood pressure, depresses activity of central nervous system and acts as a hypnotic.

Snakeroot depletes catecholamines and serotonin from nerves in central nervous system. Refined snakeroot has been used extensively in recent years to treat hypertension. Animal studies suggest snakeroot may produce cancers.
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whatchamacallit
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Voidgate writes: "Ramtha stated in the conspiracy days of the early 90's that Rauwolfia was something they put in the village well to sedate the population that they would be more compliant with authority."

Yes, I also recall "Ramtha" saying this about Rauwolfia.

Joe made a good point, also. If "Ramtha" knew that scientists would be discovering a connection between the new neurotransmitter growth and who would publish it in 2006 in a certain magazine, then why didn't he predict that back in May 1996? Even if he didn't say the exact name, he could have given all the other details. But, he didn't.

There are MANY discrepancies in the teachings. They would be excused away as a "change in timelines". In my opinion, that's a scapegoat used to avoid accountability.
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whatchamacallit
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Why didn't RAMTHA know about this??? JZ really ought to talk to the Big Guy about this killer drug that he promoted.
Do you think Ramtha buys stock in pharmaceutical companies ? hahaaha


THE STORY BEHIND PROZAC...the KILLER DRUG
by Thomas G. Whittle and Richard Wieland
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html

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