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voidgate
Intermediate Member
Username: voidgate
Post Number: 143
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 144.138.162.52
| | Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:25 am: | 
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In the early years of the teachings Ramtha stated that the Preliminary Objective was to free oneself of one's past. That meant to get rid of the unwanted emotional baggage in the emotional body.
He stated that prior to puberty the energy in the body was located in the chest region at the location of the fourth seal and the thymus gland was quite large...about the size of a peach. Upon puberty the energy decended into the sexual area and the attitude of the child changed to a sexual being. The thymus gland at puberty shrunk to the size of a pea.
It was stated that when a student is free of their past that the energy rises again and swells the thymus gland restoring the body and making it youthful again. The person has also become an individual instead of a sexual being. This refers to their state of mind not the gender of their body.
In the early 90's students focussed a lot on becoming 10,20,30 years younger depending upon their age. A youthful body has far greater capacity than even a middle aged one. It usually has the benefit of a more desired appearance as well so naturally a lot of students wanted it.
Ramtha stated that being free of one's past was the BEGINNING of the greater journey. After all it is only Bridge Consciousness according to Ramtha's education and there are several more levels above this.
The evidence of getting there according to Ramtha's teaching is that the body should be significantly more youthful.... with a birth certificate to prove it.
There is not one person that can prove that they have passed the Preliminary level of the teachings after nearly 20 years of "education" at RSE. J.Z. Knight's body is not the frame of a youthful person. None of the RSE staff or appointed teachers could prove this teaching. No student present, or past, can prove this teaching.
RSE presents itself as an educational organization. As such there should be evidence of students accomplishing certain levels with a consistency. This is a requirement in any sort of education. There is almost no consistency in any student at accomplishing anything taught at RSE. Many have been students for 15 years or more. What sort of educational institution has no graduates at the basic level after this period of time?
Ramtha has not stated the purpose of the teachings is to better your worldly occupation. He presents unwordly concepts. Make known the unknown. To use the wordly occupations of students as an example of the benefit of the teachings is plainly ridiculous. There are huge numbers in the world of non students who have accomplished all sorts of things without ever having had the benefit of a very high priced RSE "education" in how to achieve it.
Why would anyone consider the need to defend the teachings of a Supreme Being that supposedly is Master of constructing his reality? Does he need to use them for his ulterior motive? Does a Master of Time and Space really need unconscious humans (the are not conscious if they cannot prove the fourth seal) to make him appear better in the marketplace and newspapers? Can he really create his reality? In view of the above this is in fact highly speculative.
The evidence above indicates that the teachings are NOT working. Many will deny this. How many incarnations do they consider it is acceptable to chant OM before they conclude the education is flawed? When will they cease to listen to the excuses on the podium and begin to have common sense? |
voidgate
Intermediate Member
Username: voidgate
Post Number: 144
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 144.138.162.52
| | Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:30 am: |
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Continued.....
There is a proliferation of defending the teachings in the media by the RSE administration and the collective student body everytime there is an undesirable viewpoint put forward in their opinion.
It is hypocritical to accuse and undermine those that object to the lie of RSE when they cannot prove the basic teaching of the serpent rising. All of those words in support of the benefits of the teachings mean nothing until the speaker of the words PROVES what he/she is saying. |
voidgate
Intermediate Member
Username: voidgate
Post Number: 145
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 144.138.162.52
| | Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:43 am: |
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RSE should be evaluated by assessing the number of students who pass a level of accomplishment with consistency relative to the teachings given forth.
Ramtha's existence cannot be proved at present. He can also not be conclusively disproved.
What can be proved is the student's collective lack of consistent accomplishment after a long duration of study. |
journeythroughramthaland
Junior Member
Username: journeythroughramthaland
Post Number: 42
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 76.170.95.25
| | Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Lots of salient points void.
One simple proof would be about health. Many student besides not seeking health care because they consider it their responsibility to cure themselves, simply do not have the funds to obtain health care due to the expense and time required by RSE.
Those that can afford it (JZ included) activley seek it. Could it be that they know something the others don't?? That they do not perform or believe what they teach, that they don't practice what they preach????
A simple dental exam of the students I am fairly certain would find that most students dental health is lacking. The rest of ones health can be effected by this. This is common knowlage.
Why do you think one would deliberately place themselves in this position???
I do not think that most are aware of this . However, I am fairly certain that JZ and others are. For them it continues to keep all with something that needs curing and the older one becomes in the school, the more one can feel they need "the teachings" to protect their health.
The claims made by the school with regard to health are simply untrue. The higher ups are well aware of this as they lie and present information which they know is unsubstanciated.
I personally find these claims to be some of the most detrimental and the most easily challanged. I also find these to be the most despicable as they "create" the victims for the school to cure, yet it doesn't do so! |