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truth_hunter
Intermediate Member
Username: truth_hunter
Post Number: 298
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.55.230.165
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:54 am: | 
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The following statement was a standard in Homestead Heritage.
You need us!
Jesus said we should take up our cross daily, we must put our flesh to death. This is not possible without our aid. You can nail down your feet and one hand but who is going to nail down that last hand? You cannot! That’s why covenant is so important you need someone else to nail that last hand down!
LOL, do you know how many times I fell for that line? I was a total FOOL! Follow that twisted logic and someone (at the top) ends up not crucified.
HH’s leadership has redirected the people’s love of God to them (leaches). HH doctrine is the sin if Jeroboam by saying that the people can find Salvation in community and covenant instead of having a personal relationship with Christ.
In Pilgrim’s Progress, Christian is faced with constant diversions, but one of the first was “You don’t have to go to the cross to have your burden removed, there is a little village up on that hill that can take it from you”. HH is that Village. They are a counterfeit!
Some people in HH really and truly love the Lord, it is so sad to me that men use that love to their own gain. So sad, so sad. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1361
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 216.215.190.138
| | Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 7:39 pm: |
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Yes, you are right my friend there are some people there THAT really love the Lord...
As much as I deeply hate to say it...you are right that place is counterfeit...and I do not mean all the peope are but the double standard is one of the things that shocked me the most...
I weep because of so many good people that are blinded...
So much hurt and heartbreak could be resolved if HH really would confess that they are wrong to divide families...they are wrong to destroy their own...
I wish there was some way I could help them. I do not desire to destroy them as Prax seems to think...Because Prax does not understand what is really going on he says all kinds of things...I don't even pay attention to him because I know he does not even know... |
truth_hunter
Intermediate Member
Username: truth_hunter
Post Number: 300
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.55.230.165
| | Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 12:16 am: |
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I pay Prax no heed either, but I do feel sorry for him, he is so deceived. As of now he only sees an angel of light, he has not seen the darkness as we have. |
not_scared
New member
Username: not_scared
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.187.33
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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so who is this prax fellow? all i read about from this guy is how great hh is even though he never attended? i was at hh, arizona branch, for 7 years and just don't believe the guy. constantly defending hh and demeaning others for speaking out. most of whom i agree with. for the record i am not angry, bitter or poor. living and loving life. |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 746
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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Hi N_S,
I am glad to hear that you are not angry or bitter, and that you are loving life. Perhaps you can share with the oppositionalists here the benefits of eschewing acrimony and bitterness.
Anyway, I was involved in HH for many years, and kept communication and have had various visits since that time. A lot of the posters and readers know who I am IRW (in the real world). Steven from newyawk is fine, as well as my nom de factnet, Prax. My years of active involvement would precede yours.
Generally I do not begrudge anybody speaking out, if they are accurate and hold an integrity line. (Although this Factnet forum comes with a false tinge from the get-go, which I have discussed often but not recently, so it would be good to seek a better venue.)
The defining line on the integrity and honesty now, today, is the blatant and very ugly lie of a 'death covenant' - as in a witchcraft, brujeria, murder-suicide group. Yes, I will speak very forcefully to counter that type of vicious and malicious anger and bitterness (what you say you do not have) - coming forth as a lying blasphemy accusation against the Christian community.
On other issues I am more intent on giving simply thoughtful input and counterpoint, by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. Try to help see the larger picture, while keeping and nurturing a heart of appreciation for the many good and beautiful things of God.
And I have also explained my history on this forum, what I expected when I first took note that it was here, and then my surprise and sadness when I saw how it was being misused for the most tawdry agendas.
I hope this answers your question above a bit.
Nice to meet you.
Shalom,
Praxaluh |
truth_hunter
Intermediate Member
Username: truth_hunter
Post Number: 313
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.55.230.165
| | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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NS, please ignore Prax. His twisted mind has conjured a sick and twisted lie that he seems to daily proclaim here. He is the only one that sees it his way and just keeps clamoring on about it. He is best ignored. |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 748
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 4:21 am: |
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Hi Folks,
Yes, 'Truth_Hunter' is the second person here who has actively proclaimed the sick, twisted 'death covenant' lie on this forum. T_H a while earlier, he has not spoken on it directly recently. Understandably. Conjecture - 'Truth_Hunter' is not dumb, and he senses that the phrase discredits his various oppositional attempts. By showing to those with some sense the willingness to twist truth and even blatantly lie if it will help his politics against HH. So better to divert to other matters.
And that is why he asks you to ignore the glaring boil festering on the forum. (It was gone for a month or two after the apologies and then returned with a sick vengence). It is so dank and dark that 'Truth_hunter' must ask you to ignore it and look elsewhere.
Mrs. Alvear and 'Truth_Hunter' are the two who proclaim the sick phrase as part of their presentation, their propaganda.
While 'Fovever_his' and 'Seeking_Glory' are the two who shill excuses and diversions to defacto support the verbal sickness and lie. These four work as a team here to promote and encourage the sick blasphemy.
Therefore there should be no surprise on the 'Truth_Hunter' comment above, shrewdly attempting to reverse reality and defend the obscene. Amazing the depths of deception when one looks to defend a sick lie.
And I mention this daily (ie. since the return of the sickness) because integrity comes first. Sadly it shows the abject deception and lying of the virulent oppositionalists here, at least up to this day. And the 'death covenant' lie is clearly the defining issue of this forum. We see not even the fundamental integrity to disown and reprove the demonic phrase. (Not even from those who oh-so-sweetly declare their appreciation of the HH motives and intentions, they simply disagree with the doctrines.)
A phrase that obviously and clearly is used precisely because of its vicious and lying implications of witchcraft, brujeria, islamist murder-suicide-bombers, the pact of assassins or Jim Jones or Heavens Gate.
Understanding that this is the hoped-for-inference is trivial and obvious, it is a transparent attempt to poison the air of discussion, to appeal to the great murder-cult and witchcraft concerns and fears and sensibilities of the public. And Alvear, not as cunning as 'Truth_Hunter', even slips and makes it clear she uses the phrase precisely because she wants to imply killing, murder. And then she even blatantly lies about the meaning of the phrase, as if it means in her culture the same as a marriage 'till-death-do-you-part' covenant of love and commitment and dedication.
Ugh. These folks should be selling you multiple bridges in Brooklyn, the waterfront as well, if they expect you to buy that. Yet the oppositionalists fall in line behind Alvear, eyes closed, ears shut to even the blatant lies.
You don't have to be a linguistic expert to realize the sense and meaning in English, Spanish, or Portuguese. To deny the truth is the technique of the virulent oppositionalists. Let's talk about something else.
Would that it were not so. Originally I really thought they would have the minimal integrity to forego the phrase (especially after two folks apologized for the phrase, one of which is standing today).
However I was wrong.
They have zilch integrity, none, as proven by their using and supporting the vile, sick, poisonous phrase. Since Alvear has been away a few days it has not been directly used, but still, not one oppositionalist, other than the earlier retraction from Under_Grace, has offered and maintained even a mild reproof and disassociation of the blatant, sick lie.
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(Message edited by praxaluh on December 18, 2006) |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 753
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 6:07 am: |
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As I have pointed out, the Mrs. Alvear usage is not so surprising, often you have one person with an unrestrained tongue. No surprise there. Perhaps she is under pressure ('support') from her family, hostile to HH and largely uninformed, not to back off one inch in her words of acrimony. Especially the most vicious ones, which originally passed by without comment here for a season. No back-tracking, no retraction, no apology, is possible, even if it is clearly the integrity path. That truly seems to be the attitude with which we are dealing. Dug in the sand.
And you can be quite sure they love to use the 'death covenant' phrase in Latin American. It would immediately create a sense of abhorrence, anger, disgust, even hatred. Clearly everyone in the latin culture would know the witchcraft/brujeria/suicide implication of 'pacto de muerte'. That is why I showed you some headlines from Spanish and Portuguese newspapers, and you can find dozens, hundreds, more yourself. And also, please understand, you can learn from where Mrs. Alvear got the phrase. It is rarely used in English (Very occasionally for murder or suicide or witchcraft, thats it. With the phrasing often a smidgen different, so it could not look like it was related to a true covenant, the deceivers trick of language-parsing demonic substitution would not work.) And obviously this is not remotely a phrase of any Christian community. This is however a common witchcraft and murder/death/suicide phrase in Spanish and Portuguese, in the Caribbean and Latin America. That is why I talked to people about the phrase from those cultures before bringing the issue to the fore here and suggested others here might research likewise. Not that the vicious lie is really less clear in English, in English it is similarly clear .. it is just that the rawness and ugliness is more understood by folks within those cultures and the reaction is more visceral. (Plus we learn the Mrs. Alvear source for the phrase.)
Mrs. Alvear is, sadly, at this time, comfortable lying in this phrase and giving her accompanying excuses to poison others. For her own accountability before God she would need to forego the pharse on Factnet and other venues, public and private, English and Portuguese and Spanish.
For her own walk before God, she would do the very best to follow with a simple and clear retraction and apology. Unqualified, earnest, cleansing.
Meanwhile, playing dumb here ('its just like the marriage phrase') is just a transparent ruse and downright silly. And unless you have behind you slick apologists and shills like 'Truth_Hunter' and 'Forever_His' and 'Seeking_Glory' willing to spin some sophistry and diversion you could never try to get away with such blatant lies. (You can say if you like that Mrs. Alvear deceives herself first so that the deceptions are not conscious and deliberate.)
So as I shared, no surprises here with Mrs. Alvear herself, you often have one person who will have an unrestrained tongue and it is only peers who are likely to have a positive influence. And she would not continue the vitriol lie if her compatriots spoke to her the truth. Publicly, privately or both.
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praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 754
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 6:08 am: |
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What is shocking is the complete abrogation of spiritual responsibility by the others, to see them all glibly and gleefully kow-towing into line to support the demonic phrase. Their abandonment of truth and integrity, selling out for a phrase of porridge.
And sadly, their spiritual abandonment of their own proclaimed friend, a woman in need of Godly counsel and assistance on this matter, Mrs. Alvear. All for politics.
Thus we see that a motley crew is not what we are dealing with here - but a true and deep spiritual deception and sickness infecting the virulent oppositionalists.
And a cowering in the background of some others who could speak forthrightly, perhaps intimidated by the oppositionalists, concerned of being painted as pro-HH if they simply speak the truth on this matter.
And I do call for some of you that have been sluffing this off to speak properly, with integrity. Maybe you were hoping the sick phrase would stop of its own account and go away. By now you should realize the depth of the problem, that this cuts very deep. And that it is your responsibility (supportive or opposed or mixed or undecided or whatever about HH in various other matters) to speak up a word of truth before God.
Shalom,
Praxaluh |
foreverhis
Intermediate Member
Username: foreverhis
Post Number: 372
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 12.162.187.115
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 12:48 pm: |
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2 Cor 11: 3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully…
13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds…
19 For you, being so wise, tolerate the foolish gladly.
20 For you tolerate it if anyone enslaves you, anyone devours you, anyone takes advantage of you, anyone exalts himself, anyone hits you in the face.
Gal 1: 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
What is worse, men who make death covenants, or men who come as Christ with another gosple?
Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 755
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 12:57 pm: |
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Please, who would answer such trap-questions, meant to divert, phrased in the crafty manner of the deceiver, a perfect Pharisee-style question (watch how they question the Lord Jesus in Matthew 9 & 19 & 21, Mark 12).
From a woman sans spiritual integrity on this forum, who can speak from two sides of her mouth -- one side actually still be defending and shilling for the ultra-sick 'death covenant' blasphemy-accusation, the other side of the mouth pretending that it isn't so bad, look, isn't maybe this worse ?
Are there any honest among the oppositionals and posting ?
Shalom,
Praxaluh
(Message edited by praxaluh on December 18, 2006) |
foreverhis
Intermediate Member
Username: foreverhis
Post Number: 373
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 12.162.187.135
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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Welcome to the board not_scared. It is good to hear from AZ. (People should know that HH had an AZ branch for years. Recently they moved to join the Waco group.)
I am glad to hear that you are not scared. It took me a long time to get over the fear.
I am not bitter either. It is hard for those still enamored with HH to believe that we are just telling the truth. It makes me think of how my father would try to warn me a bout a young man I had fallen in love with. I wanted to believe my Dad was just being critical, that he just didn't want to see me grow up and leave home. I refused to see that Dad's opinion, his wisdom, came from his experiences. Now that I look back, I see that Dad was right, and I am glad I didn't get more involved with the guy.
I wish someone could have warned me about HH. I wanted to believe it was the "Garden of God" so badly, that I probably would have had to see it for myself anyway. Our parents warned us, but they just had a feeling; no facts. We have facts, but HH's claim of "just disgruntled ex-members" is all some people WANT to believe.
Well, again I say welcome.
God Bless you,
Forever His |
foreverhis
Intermediate Member
Username: foreverhis
Post Number: 374
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 12.162.187.135
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 1:37 pm: |
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PX, For the record AGAIN, I do not use the death covenant phrase to describe HH because your chosen definition of the phrase is not a fair representation of HH.
Yet I am not going to condemn someone else’s use of the phrase who clearly gave her definition of it.
I am not playing politics. I am being sensitive to both of you.
I was trying to say in my previous post that my greater concern is eternal life or death. Yes, I do believe that HH holds to a gospel by men. Yet, I do believe there are Christians in HH who still quietly hold their belief in the true Gospel they learned before going to HH.
Before you call me a liar, please post HH's gospel here using a quote from their literature and the reader can then see for himself. |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 757
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 2:16 pm: |
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F_H, I have even gone to the extra effort to demonstrate, with -
a) documentation from articles where the sick phrase is used
b) common sense and understanding
c) highlighting Alvear's own words of purpose
d) disassembling multiple blatant lies
All in language that anybody can understand --that what you very deceptively and craftily call 'my chosen definition' is obviously and clearly what is desired for the reader and hearer to be inferred by Alvear and the 'death covenant' crew, which does include you.
Your public protestations here are meaningless, they barely have the weight to fall to the ground, since you are the prime public supporter today of the sick blasphemy. You are 100% culpable.
All this I have gone into in depth even though it obviously should not be necessary, anyone with a smidgen of honesty and common sense knows the sense meant of the phrase. Including you, who on other issues seems to have the smidgen of common sense.
And you have ignored all this, making you a transparent shill for the phrase, a classic 'oh, I am so sweet' front-woman flak & deceiver for the vilest, sickest blasphemy we have ever seen.
And you want the diversion of restarting earlier conversation about this and that doctrine ? While you are bound in iniquity defending your oppositional 'death covenant' vitriol-smear ? You want to be balanced, 'sensitive' to both integrity and the vile ininquity you have been encouraging, shilling, defending ? Please.
My feet must stay dusted off - till you cleanse yourself of the demonic phrase that you defend daily.
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You can see the 'Integrity First' thread for my thoughts.
As to how 'Forever_his and the Oppositionals' got to be so bound in their demonic 'death covenant' deception.
And far more importantly, how to be set free.
Shalom,
Praxaluh
(Message edited by praxaluh on December 18, 2006) |
not_scared
New member
Username: not_scared
Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.176.162
| | Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:37 pm: |
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well folks i usually don't post much and prolly never will. i mainly just come occasionally and browse. have no idea what all the fuss is about the death convenant phrase is about, but it seems to upset prax. seems most from arizona left and the remaining few went to texas. see ya around. ns |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 773
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:56 am: |
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Hi N_S,
Sincere and simple question.
Are you serious ?
Do you really not understand the 'fuss' when someone takes words affirming Christian community covenant (and we can agree that folks can have all sorts of perspective on this .. I am not at all saying you should agree and accept, or not offer various counterpoints or even your possible objections) -- and then try daily to smear it by twisting it to a phrase that comes 100% out of the dark realms of witchcraft, suicide, assasins, murder, Jim Jones and Heavens Gate, brujeria ?
Placing the low bar of blasphemy over covenant vows, as if a satanist offering 'sacrifices' to lust-gods similarly called the beautiful traditional marriage vows a 'death covenant' in order to justify their own perversions.
And here the propagators of the lie even set up layers of additional transparent surrounding excuse-lies about the meaning and purpose and origin and usage of the phrase - just to try to smoke-fog the vitriol ? All amply exposed here in detail.
Please answer to the point.
Are you really, really saying that, understanding all this, which is not complicated at all, you really don't understand the 'fuss' ?
Or are you actually saying that you don't care .. as long as it is an attack against HH you will give it a free pass. The integrity issue does not concern you.
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The same question could be asked about the recent partner-blasphemy-lie of saying that the folks view '(leader) as GOD'. Another one where not a single oppo has spoken in correction and integrity. Not one.
Shalom,
Praxaluh
(Message edited by praxaluh on December 22, 2006) |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1512
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.147.63.55
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:46 pm: |
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most cults did not start off deadly but without a set of checks and balances many ended up dead... |
not_scared
New member
Username: not_scared
Post Number: 6
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.177.39
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:13 pm: |
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well prax lets see here. if they use the death convenant phrase in terms of jim jones and heavens gate i would say they are wrong. however if they use it in terms of if you stay at HH it is a path leading down the wrong road to ultimately death, well i could agree with that version of it. my opinion mind you and i will not use the phrase. sorry took so long to reply but had to get thru the holidays and the new grandbaby! ns. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1695
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.57.69.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 7:17 am: |
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As one pastor told me, "Sister Alvear, murder is murder in God's eyes wheter we use a gun or words to murder people."
Wonder how many HH have spiritually killed, mammed, wounded in their drive for earthly perfection?
In the name of "God" I wonder how many families will never be a true familiy again? Some cannot even talk to each other.
It is easy for people to believe something if it is told to them over and over...I heard what was told to people over and over...
Jesus will not only know how many people we helped save He also know how many we have destroyed... |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 854
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 8:07 am: |
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As usual Alvear continues her 'murder', 'cults', 'deadly' acrid smear campaign. Her tongue remains sick. Nuff said for now.
Not_scared, perhaps you missed the detail posts. The reasons the d.c phrase was used again and again (and is likely being used daily in other venues today) was precisely to give the jim jones and witchcraft/brujeria sense to those who do not know. You don't have to be a collegiate logician to understand this, even look right above. And a whole body of lies and fictions was even built to 'defend' the abomination, the forum became like a chapter of 'hand-wavers anonymous' as folks like F_H ran to the defense of the vile phrase usage with whatever sophistry could be found.
I won't go further now since theoretically that particular phrase is off the table (on this forum) for most , although not the underlying sickness and ugliness from which it sprang. And no restraint in other venues.
What is really needed is a new beginning.
Full forsaking, apologies, sincerity, integrity.
Shalom,
Praxaluh |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.57.69.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:17 am: |
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I only quoted what someone said to me...
Yes, a new beginning...maybe if HH had a pastor and overseers they would do better...a leader without a pastor is dangerous...no set of checks and balances...one man is God's voice with the latest revelations...Prax I am not a sucker to believe something like that... |
not_scared
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Username: not_scared
Post Number: 9
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.181.100
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:42 am: |
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prax, i am not one to use the d.c. words, however i could see in the future for hh a scenario where under different or current leadership something bad could happen. the submissive idealog is ripe for abuse. |
missionary_lady
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Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1701
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.57.69.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 10:16 am: |
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and abusive it is to those that cross them! |
praxaluh
Advanced Member
Username: praxaluh
Post Number: 858
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 74.73.4.159
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 10:34 am: |
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not_scared
"prax, i am not one to use the d.c. words"
Good, it would best be left just like that.
And perhaps you could speak clearly against 'living dead', 'killing babies' 'jim jones', and all the other viciousnesses that are coming forth daily from the oppositional vanguard here.
When a number of people speak clearly, then Alvear and her parrots and shills will have to take note and reconsider their current words.
In fact, many could take the lead and simply offer their own apology to HH .. even if the words have come from their comrades only. Now that would be an integrity path !
Then, from that integrity point, if someone added ..
"Oh, I am concerned in the future the patterns of authority and ministry could be abused in such and such a way .. "
A real discussion, in depth, could be in order.
Integrity first.
Shalom,
Praxaluh |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1708
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.57.69.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 11:49 am: |
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God does not give His leaders power and authority to control anyone, but to speak a truth that sets people free. |
missionary_lady
Senior Member
Username: missionary_lady
Post Number: 1710
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.57.69.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 11:56 am: |
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hh = control....
Prax tell us why you left so many years ago? |
not_scared
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Username: not_scared
Post Number: 10
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 166.165.189.71
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:51 pm: |
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prax, i just don't have enough time to devote to this forum in regards to what you ask. you'll just get honest comments from me every so often. also i don't feel me apologizing for someone else is useful here. unless you want me to apologize to you. here, with sincerity, sorry prax that these people offend you.
prax did you really leave hh years ago? i would be interested to know why also, briefly preferred. |
fullofquestions
Member
Username: fullofquestions
Post Number: 65
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 70.57.32.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:56 pm: |
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be careful |
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