Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda

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trainedobserver
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This man bills himself as The Man Jesus Christ and many believe him to be Christ returned to Earth.

Amazing isn't it? Take a look at this confidence man and the outrageous show he has taken on the road.

http://www.cegenglish.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqESrrnrv7k&mode=related&search=
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trsrinheaven
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age

Jesus made it very clear many false people would come on the scene and claim to be Christ. These fools come with no miracles and no true signs as accurately as he stated and accounted in the Gospels.

7 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?”
8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. 9 But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”
10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake.
The Destruction of Jerusalem

20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
The Coming of the Son of Man
26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

5And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
6For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

7And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
Mark 13
In Matthew 24 Jesus states
3"And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Matthew 24

Do not be deceived read the total accounts in the Bible and you will easily be able to know these are false people. Jesus told how he would return, in the sky and clearly be seen by all.
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trainedobserver
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It just boggles the freaking imagination doesn't it?

Did you get a look at any of the videos? Those folks are, as we would say in the business, possessing high strangeness or a.k.a. "Crazy as Hell!" , and imminently dangerous, a.k.a. “Scary as Hell!”
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kimberlyfredrick
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This guy really loves himself.....LOL.

I was wondering, What does the church do in a situation like this? I mean, mainstream and others. Do they witness against people like him or do they just ignore them?

Guys like him, are they common worldwide or is this something new? How does a guy like him develope a following?
Did this guy start out preaching to those who did not know anything about Christianity?

Anybody have any answers? Just curious.
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rachelengland
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This really isn't anything new. I mean this type of scam has been going on for years-the only thing original is they now have websites and more people are going to happen upon such outrageous claims!

You ask if the church should speak out against people like this??? I would say of course they should and they should build their congregations up to be wise enough to know this type of thing is a farse.

There are many weak-minded individuals or maybe I should groups that will fall for claims like this, they have in the past-but most well-trained christians would know better. R



(Message edited by rachelengland on October 02, 2006)
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getagrip
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I watched some of the video and the thing I found interesting was not so much what he taught (in fact a lot of what he stated about the Love of God was quite good) but that the crowd sincerely believes that he is Jesus Christ and they were still upright in their chairs... very strange, I would have thought most would have assumed the position, if you know what I mean.
Thanks for the link, very interesting.
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kimberlyfredrick
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.....LOL.....

I had not thought of that, were was my brain!?!
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hoodornament
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This guy is mostly funny (and a very little bit scary).

Much scarier is just how easily sheep are led.

:/
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trainedobserver
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

'Jesus Christ' Now Claims To Be 'Anti-Christ' With 666 Tattoos

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4adc1e71fd
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ihavesinned
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice,
hey TO, did you see in the news a few days ago, a cult leader in Iraq claiming to be the Mahdi, or Islamic messiah was gunned down along with 200 of his followers. They were planning to attack a shiite holy festival or something.
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trainedobserver
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"a cult leader in Iraq claiming to be the Mahdi, or Islamic messiah was gunned down along with 200 of his followers."

He probably had the saps believing bullets wouldn't hurt them like during the Boxer rebellion.

Can you imagine someone like Jerry Falwell standing up on T.V. and showing off 666 tattoos?
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ihavesinned
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Yeah, if it meant more publicity. This guy's pushing it though, somebody might take a shot at him thinking he is the anti christ...
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trainedobserver
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It really is incredible. I don't think anyone since Crowley has 'seriously' claimed to be the Antichrist, but I could be mistaken.

I cannot imagine what is going through this guys mind. Is he insane or does he just have a wicked business plan? Amazing.

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