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voidgate Intermediate Member Username: voidgate
Post Number: 125 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.67
| | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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I attended a Dimensional Mind event in the early 90's. This event was held after the required follow ups in October/November thus a lot of foreign people were present and elected to attend before returning to their countries. Ramtha stated that no one was permitted to attend unless we each brought four items of food for the poor. He listed the type of items we must bring. I knew an elderly lady had come from Australia. She sold some furniture in order to attend. It was the last financial effort she could afford in order to attend. She was very poor ...on an old age pension. Nothing materialised in her life as a product of her participation. No one sent her any food, nor a cheque to go and get some. The pension in Australia is very little if you have rent, telephone and a car to run. You can only buy the least expensive of food. Where was the gift of food for this student? She certainly qualified. Has anyone ever heard of anyone getting any money from the Master's Fund. I have not. it seems a lot of things are thoroughly biased in favour of local residents. Why are students so poor they cannot afford to eat properly anyway? I have heard of students begging for cash from one of the more affluent students, living in the Yelm area, in order to eat. So much for the benefit of applying disciplines. |
   
trainedobserver Senior Member Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 1686 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 198.49.119.6
| | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 7:40 am: |
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What a freaking horror! This is what I am talking about when I say the public should be protected from these conartists that hide behind the skirts of religious freedom to rob and lay people's lives in ruin. Let's face it. Some people just do not have what it takes to see through these religious hucksters. For whatever reason it is. I was one of them but I've faced reality now and things look a lot better. It is societies problem when these vampires are through taking everything, including a person's sanity, they are nonproductive and no longer contribute what they otherwise could to society creating even greater strain and tension in the world. Where's the damn "spirituality" in that? |
   
whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit
Post Number: 191 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97
| | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 6:16 pm: |
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It was for many years, common practice to listen to certain designated people, be on stage and solicit funds/donations from students, for the Master's Fund. This was supposedly used to go toward the students who were relocating to the Yelm area. There was a building, too, called The Master's Center, where these people stayed (though there was very limited space, so many were turned away). They took turns cooking and cleaning. Local students donated food to the center from their gardens. When we atteneded events around October - the MANDATORY events we had to attend or we'd be booted back to lowly newcomer status (which was a fright to even consider), it was common to be TOLD to donate food. We were to either donate non-perishable food items, or money so that more could be purchased. One year at least, (though I believe it was more than that), there was a specific push to get turkeys for Thanksgiving dinner for folks who couldn't afford to buy and make a meal. We were told to invite others to our homes if they could not "manifest" their own meals. Well, I always had an issue with that. Let me state up front that in MY OWN COMMUNITY I do donate plenty of things, and for the holidays, my children choose gifts to give to other children that we will never even see. It's teaching them to give from the heart with no strings attached. I am all for helping other human beings out! However, to use a captive audience, who paid to attend a spiritual retreat (hahahahhaah....spewing tea all over the monitor at the memory of it....) is just wrong (in my opinion). The students are RSE have endured what I believe is an abuse of authority with regard to why the students are there, so that JZ can promote her own agenda. Over the years, that agenda has been political, and financial (enduring fashion shows of her clothing designs which we should purchase and wear..it has status you know!). We have also endured being told what our political views should be. Thanks, but I disagree with the consensus view they hold. Also, we've been told to support HER community via the food/money donations. Excuse me ? I have my OWN community to support. It's up to the locals to help one another out, not me because I am attending an event. I did comply a few times. After that, I simply ignored it. Maybe I should have sent JZ Knight a letter and asked her to donate to my community's food bank. Yes, I agree that they should be protected. But, as far as I know, the best way to do it is to haul their derrieres into court and have them shut down. David is having a gathering, reaching out to others who may not have a place to turn After RSE. Hopefully, that will be the start of a community forming, and action being taken as a collective, to seek justice. |
   
mathew_morrell Junior Member Username: mathew_morrell
Post Number: 32 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 12.73.194.40
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 3:19 am: |
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A person mentioned that one of JZs agendas is political. I agree. In the early nineties I begun to understand what that agenda might be and how it might be defined in categorical terms. RSE used to sell a monthly publication called the "Spotlight Magazine" which is the leading anti-Zionist newspaper in the nation. Being young and impressionable, I bought a copy of the Spotlight from the RSE bookstore and took the magazine home to read it. The cover story was on David Duke, a former member of the KKK and a holocaust denier. JZs political views can be summarized as follows. * Her book, The Last Waltz of the Tyrants, is a very veiled admonition against capitalist society and the control that the banking system (controlled by Jews) exerts over the world. * Society frees itself only after “the capitalist system” collapses and the world descends into a semi barbarous state, during which over 2/3 of the people on Earth perish. * The survivors of the apocalypse, according to JZ, go on to create a utopia in which governments are no longer necessary. The only barrier that stands in the way of the creation of this new age utopia is the forces of government subjugating the population, thus her anti-government bias. These proofs show that JZs political philosophy contains both extreme Left Wing and extreme Right Wing elements. (Message edited by mathew_morrell on September 02, 2006) |
   
whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit
Post Number: 193 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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Mathew writes: The only barrier that stands in the way of the creation of this new age utopia is the forces of government subjugating the population, thus her anti-government bias. ............... So instead the "governmental" forces subjugating the population that are not dead, and have survived the earth cataclysms, could be such as JZ's political perspective of Utopia ? hahahahahahaa ..........and that isn't called SUBJUGATION of her kind? Who wishes she were the government? (insert humor) I'm currently reading a book called The World Is Flat. It makes me laugh when I read viewpoints Other Than those espoused at RSE. At RSE, in my experience, globalism is being touted as the ruination of America. The author of The World Is Flat would disagree. Very interesting read. Yet more data to support JZ having her own agenda. Preferably one students adapt themselves to accept. About two years ago, I sat in my seat in the arena, having quietly noticed that a woman a few seats in front of me had some things in a Wal-Mart bag. I just sat there and laughed, and nobody knew why. Most of the students have accepted, and have certainly been encouraged, to be against Wal-Mart. But these same students, many of whom can barely pay for their next event, are supposed to shop at the Outback B...I'm not even going to say it...and we know who owns that store. The prices are extremely expensive there. At a recent Christmas event, the "spiritual teaching" was along the line of getting people what they really, truly wanted, and paying whatever it took to get it for them. Including paying off charge card debt. Why not just tell the person you love them and ask them to spend the holiday with you for dinner!? I cannot imagine expecting someone that I care about, whose finances are strained, to go out on a charge card limb to make me happy with a material gift ! Good grief. |
   
whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit
Post Number: 194 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 9:33 pm: |
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check this out....... http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0510/050309_news_mossback.php |
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