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minky_hinkle
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What part of his life was honoring of or glorying of the Lord?

Did he ever inspire you to go to church or read your bibles? Did he win anyone to the Lord or repent publicaly for any of his sins?

What about the whole story of his teen 'live in' who he did take total control over???? With sex and domination of her life in all ways. He made her to look like his mother. Was she happy with him in the end years later? She knew him better than anyone.

That is the real Elvis, including having his guys bring him girls and giving them the rules for what they had to look like in different cities. What did he do with those girls? Have a Bible study? Lay hands on them? Yes he did do that but not the way he should have if he was such a strong Christian.

He didn't live the Word in his character or his lifestyle and he didn't preach it when he could have. He also did things that were completley immoral and lusty.

Why would you want to honor the dishonorable? Next will you tell us that it is okay to be gay or for lesbians to get married like Paris and Nicole just preached? (I am trying to find out the name of the church where that choir came from and I am going to nicely complain because that was immoral.)

Just because Mylon liked and copied him or got rich for a little while through him also doesn't mean Elvis is of God or godly. Mylon was violent too from what we have heard, meaning harsh and judgmental and bad temperamentaly. He hurt his wife and people who worked for him were angry about his controls and anger too. You can be addicted to control not just drugs and be vain.

I don't really look up to Mylon and I know Carman does. I suppose if someone loaned my his bus and made me think that famousness was all that or everything and I was Carman I would too. What about the way Mylon was with his first wife and backstage or if there was language and temper tantrums that would make a person blush.
It is all okay then because the Gospel was preached in songs and with stages? What about the people closest to these people, will they give an acounting to God for that even more?
Okay he was a janitor and won souls, but what about his home life? Does God hate divorce and ungodly anger?

Most performers are phonies and I don't have to be in a pond of denial drowning and idealizing people because you want to be. Doesn't it make sense that phonies defend other phonies? If Carman is all toghether godly why did he get tricked and hurt another minister too? How flaki can someone get to go to Sin City and practice "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas", which is immoral by itself.

Elvis was gross and so is anyone who is a big ego maniac who can't admit the truth about themselves to themselves and who also try force us to look up to them so they can make more money.
You have to be like Jesus after you are not a baby Christian and you have to have the fruits of repentance and the Holy Spirit.

Should I say to you, hey pop open a brewski, flip on E and check out the new Playboy articles this month. Careful don't park your beer on top of my King James???? You would go for that wouldn't you HLF or the others. You judge but say you don't and you lie about who you are also.

I suppose you think I should respect Charlie Sheen and Dog the Bounty Hunter too??????
Can you live without ever listening to or throwing away your Elvis music.
I will NEVER RESPECT ELVIS PRESLY. I will feel sorry for him and frustrated with ministers and Christians who think he was godly. If you base your life on your own thoughts it is error.

Carman should you change you mind and your internal imaging???

Be Holy as 'He' is Holy???
Elvis?
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No one ever told you to respect him all that was said is that in the end he gave his life back to God. As for his past it too was cast into the sea of forgetfulness. It is only those who like to dig up the guck that continues to get their hands dirty in another person's back yard can of blues.

When you quoted: Why would you want to honor the dishonorable? to Most performers are phonies and I don't have to be in a pond of denial drowning and idealizing people because you want to be. Doesn't it make sense that phonies defend other phonies?

No not all performers are phonies, but let me say it again in simple terms to understand the real meaning of that word.

To perform is to memorize a script, or a song and get up in front of an audiance to even behind the scenes for voice overs on radio to TV shows. Then the person performs the job that they are paid to do, and that is to make the crowd happy. Ah yes even if the crowd doesn't see the performer they are happy with what they hear, but here in is a differance. It's called acting and along with performing the two can work hand in hand. Where by the actor/actress learns their lines and then performs the lines to even the songs they sing on a stage.

To worship though is where a performer/actor has learned their gifts and now can allow God to use them to touch the world, but here is where the line is drawn. For many people who get up in front of a lot of people, and they are very out there. They make the crowds go crazy with dancing, and singing, and then when that performer leaves the stage. That person is not the same person that was on the stage, but in fact very shy.

The real act is to then be able to carry the gifts through by lots of Faith, and having no fear even though they tremble inside each time that they face that stage knowing that there are thousands waiting for them. They have to train their minds to be brave, and face those inner fears. So to perform and to act is what every performer has to do to really help them get thier gifts out there. This is also why so many stop performing, because they have given in to those fears, and I could name a lot including some very well known artist. They will still do the behind the scenes studio work, but the fear of getting back in front of thousands just takes too much out of them, and unless anyone has been in front of thousands then you will know that these performers are not phonies, but are people who use their gifts be it through acting, to performing that helps them reach people world wide.

Hope that this clears up the phony section.
To be a real phony is to be friends with a person to their face, and behind their backs stab them with their tongues.

That to me is being phony to pretending to be some one that you are not, but to admire the gifts of an artist doesn't have to make that performer the same way with their life style there too is a differance. I for one love Tina Turner's voice, to Aretha Franklin, and other soul singers, but just because I love to sing their styles now and then doesn't make my private life just like theirs.

See that to me is a big differance.
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minky_hinkle
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Elvis was not a strong christian; that is a myth. He was always firing and intimidating people and was liscentious constantly. I have watched and read an entire mini library of stuff about him because of my brother who was addicted to him and kept more than 8000.00 thousand dollars of memorabilia and records then discs. He wasted his life for about 6 years in a very disruptive fantasy. He thought about doing impersonating for a living and bid at auctions for old clothes of Elvis.

I think I know more about Elvis than Carman does or anybody who has posted. Obviously you don't care about all of his oral sex exploits and his very ungodly damaging temper and the Bible and what it say about that. Being a back up singer for an impersonator is no achievement in my eyes. It is tacky and low class and weird.

I will continue to see Elvis through the Bible and his fruit and his own actions. You know a tree by its fruit. Look at what he did to people behind the scenes and to the women in the world also. You know it is a sin to call evil good and good evil don't you?

I think it is lucky and good news that he cried out to God at the end and God is merciful but his life was full of sin and he hurt or offended many people. Also he could not have become so powerfully famous without some kind of intense lust or sin or witchcraft in his life even if he didn't want to call the charisma around him something supernatural. He was more undermining to those of faith and when people scream and get hysterical that is something weird spiritually. Period Absolutely No Doubt.

I think people who copy him are insecure and weird and have a spiritual problem and lust to be famous or rich. It is so unappealing. Why did Carman go to the Vegas Strip and get married under secrecy on the week of Elvises birthday or was the exact day?

I just watched a program on Elvis and even prayed for God to give me insights or spiritual understanding and I could really see how the people were controlled and intimidated and how self centered and bad temperamented he was. He had a very negative countenance too and was very unreasonable and put people down.

His dancing and his movies were not holy. His private life was not holy or devoted to God according to the Bible and there are many people who have critisized him honestly who knew him for years. HLF you are not someone I could even contemplate as a source of opinion or wisdom so your gun is only loaded with little blanks when you go shooting at me.

The Bible tells us not to be friends with people who have different sins and especially if they know better.

Also I do not believe that anyone who is really famous is normal and they all have psychological and spiritual problems that are not in God's designs or heart.
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minky_hinkle
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Why do you chose to dishonor God and to betray Christianity by honoring lewd and phony men. What about the scriptures that say that there are people who sing to God and about God and who say they love him or the Bible and their hearts and lives are far from him.

Did you know that there were priests who teach in the most prestigious Catholic boys school in the middleeast who came to America and saw Elvis and came back so shocked and offended that they called him that terrible and evil man that the Americans support? Akbar Ahmed went to that school and is a Muslim who is a political leader who trys to moderate and respect Christians in his culture and who is against terrorism and its ideas.

His daughter who goes to Harvard has won a very important award in creating teaching models to stop young men and women from crossing lines into terrorist thought as muslims.

These are people who have an interest and a deep devotion to serving God even though they may not know Christ. To claim he was a Christian makes if harder to witness to muslims. Elvis did not have a good witness and he was very sinful. He knew better and that makes him wicked in his character. Why do you like him? Because he was sexy and popular? Also they were not blessed or impressed with Elvis and really saw him for what he was.

He hurt the American culture and he was not godly. I told you I think it is degrading and maybe even blasphemous for Carman to walk in the image of an Elvis. He is much more high in Kingdom purposes. Not high like lofty and to be worshipped or never scrutinized. High plan of God to win souls and strengthen children to serve Christ.

I will NEVER RESPECT ELVIS PRESLY AND HIS STUFF IS NOT ALLOWED IN MY HOUSEHOLD. I am not an old lady without a normal lifestyle either. Elvis in particular fits in with porn stars and even Beyonce who is not safe for children and who should not be on your shelves at home or in your cars for that matter.

Keep yourselves unspotted from the World.
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Well I'm glad that God doesn't think that way or Esther who was a King's wife might have really been a wacko in your eyes for being a famous wife, and saved her people. She was very well known as were many people in the Bible. Hey wasn't David famous too??? Didn't he have a man murdered so that he could get the wife? And what about Saul another wacko too you might say? Weren't these messed up famous people loved by God?
Yeah there's lots of wackos, but I'll take the famous right along with the poor, because just like Jesus taught in that good book. He's no respector of persons be they well known or unknown he'll take us all.


Thank God though for those other famous people in the Bible, or I might not have enjoyed reading so much that they did do. Instead of all the gossip that they didn't.

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minky_hinkle
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Why do you do this? It is not good for the Body and you are defending a liar with lies and spiritual thoughts not spiritual principles or standards. It is undermining and defiling.
Not everything you are saying but parts of it.

I suppose you think Beyonce is a strong Christian too? They will be judged by His word and especially for making kids stumble and be sexualized at an early age. It isn't okay and we don't have to accept it because it is mainstream or big. Do you believe the Words of Jesus about children or the smiles and sweat and girations of Elvis?


No one said God didn't love Elvis. God loves Pee Wee Herman too. Do you look up to him also because of his Playhouse or movies? Art sanctifies the sinner or is it the blood of Christ, their repentance and the Lordship of Jesus that is demonstrated in their lives, speech and decisions too?

What about that Italian porn star he was making out with on an elephant in front of kids and in a kids movie and his sexual criminal charges?

Do you think Elvis would have a modest show in 2006 if he was young again now? What would his dancers be like? Naked bottoms and breasts hanging out and stripper moves and twists? Would he watch porn do you think? Is that okay? Do you care about the demonic or the souls of children?

Would he just chuckle and avoid the subject of Madonna and her mock crucifixion or her french kiss of Brittany Spears? So it is all alright because God loves these people? No standards exist in the name of love? That is what the gay marriage movement says exactly. Is that wrong according to your thoughts? Would Elvis have been for or against gay marriage?

Did some of those people allow themselves to get messed up by choosing fame and lust for fortunes and so they defiled themselves and others along with them? I am not arguing with you about God's love, it is about saying that people love God and the fruit says otherwise.

You bring up Saul. Why? How did things turn out for him? Are you saying Elvis is like the King of Israel, appointed by God? He was not the King of anything. It is just a secular entertainment title and a spiritual title too misused by some Christians that doesn't belong or fit.

Did you see the middleeastern theme movie that he did where a pre-teen girl belly dances ( a seduction and fertility dance) and her skirt is split open to her thigh? The guy playing the dance drum in the movie looked uncomfortable and he should have been too. He dances with her and sings and the dance is inappropriate as is many things in the movie. He had an inppropriate relating style sometimes with kids and with the characters in the movies as kids. He was inappropriate with his own mother as far as their relationship and the teen live in her age and what they practiced}. Priscilla and then look at the generational indicators and fruit. Look at who his daughter married.

Wake up and don't be asleep in the Light!

Whatever you do in word or deed, do all to the glory of God.
Got a life G2Go.
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Wow Mink Elvis never made it with an elephant, but the again he might have made it with an extra sized gravity blessed lady, but again I don't know I wasn't there, and that too is from his past and is none of my business. The two just don't connect, because he never had sex with animals. As for saying differant people who are famous right now and not serving God and trying to connect them all with Carman come on now.
I happen to agree with HFL as she too knows who you are, and what you are trying to do. You have my private email, and yes we know each other, but not that close which also makes me wonder why your family tries to ditch his ministry so bad?
So what if Carman likes to sing Elvis style in his songs. Again I too like to do differant well known artist styles too, but we don't have to live the way they did in their lives.
As for King David in the Bible he messed up all the time, but God always forgave him he didn't knock him out, and have idle gossip spoken on public forums about his mess ups. That too is sin. The sins that were done were a whole lot worse, and I believe it's called murdering another man to obtain a new wife??? So would you also condenm him too for murder in order to obtain his new pleasure?
Again you keep living in the past of others instead of the present in your own, and that is idle gossip.
I for one will continue to be awake in the light from the present, and the future Mink, instead of the darkness from the past always being brought up on others lives. The Bible is the letter that lives and we learn by it, but to always bring up the negatives from everyone elses walk in their life instead of the changing of your own is not very healthy at all, and is also a sin to live in the idle gossip land blues of others.

Simply put all that I'm trying to say is be like Jesus was in the Bible. For all of those that you feel are not walking the way that you want them to. Then Pray.

As for Elvis no wasn't a King from the past, but he was called a King by all of his thousands of fans. So he too was very well known and given the name by all the people who loved him. No in this day and age unless you live in London there are no Kings above God, and in the end yeah he fell, but again just like King David, God still had mercy on his soul, and in the end he found Jesus again and was born again.
For his salvation I am thrilled, and ah I'll still sing like Tina Turner, to many other artist that I love. Many have such awesome voices including Elvis. I love the talents and will use the gifts God gave me even by putting in some of theirs.

I won't have to swing my behiney either or shake my tops half all over the place either to obtain the vocal style. There by still maintainin my own style with their kinds of flavor when I sing.

Carman has his own blessed style of singing, and if he adds Elvises style of singing. Then I think that's cool as he already has a gift all his own. He's just adding more versatyle flavor to his own. It's really simple, and a lot of people do it. I am sure that you know of a young woman yourself who also does it too all of the time. Everytime that she sings why I even bet that she's related to you am I right? Yup and there in lives the anger from the past not let go, but kept alive to fester.

To let go of that past Mink is to then really live in the light isn't it? Yup to me it sure is.

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minky_hinkle
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I never said Pee Wee made it with an elephant. Do you drink or something? If you are going to quote or conflict could you please do it factually?

Do you even know that he was arrested for exposure at a porn theater? Also his TV show had sexual things undertoned and "dropped" in. They are replaying it now on one of the cable networks.

I was saying that he had a 12 minute french kiss with a porn star from Italy while they were riding an elephant in a kids movie! I have no clues about the young woman who sings and whatever you are talking about.

I said it was degrading to Carman. And I never respect Elvis or be suckered into believing he was anything different that what he really was.
I go by Scripture not personality, talents and impressions. The Bible tells us to base our lives on the Scripture. Elvis was a performer all the way around and he did not have a godly character or lifestyle.

Nobody with boy crushes on him (guys) or men who are amazed about or covet his success will change the reality of his fornication, addiction and lack of appropriateness. You know using drugs like that and charming the heck out of people men and women are forms of witchcraft and that includes pharmekeia and controlling of others. His stage shows were not godly and they did not bear godly fruit. Many unclean and unhealthful things come in through the Gate of Entertainment. I would say more than70% of defilement and compromises start there. Those "seeds" and those ideas are instruments of satanic strategies and lead people into sin through carnality pleasure deceits sensations and that kind of stuff.

Try stopping defending lies with more lies and walk in the Truth.

Be Holy as He is Holy
Keep Yourself Unspotted From the World
Be a Living Sacrifice

Mink
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minky_hinkle
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What part of his life was honoring of or glorying of the Lord?

Did he ever inspire you to go to church or read your bibles? Did he win anyone to the Lord or repent publicaly for any of his sins?

What about the whole story of his teen 'live in' who he did take total control over???? With sex and domination of her life in all ways. He made her to look like his mother. Was she happy with him in the end years later? She knew him better than anyone.

NO She wasn't and she wrote a book and talked about it several years after he died finally. She was angry and shared some things that were real for once.

That is the real Elvis, including having his guys bring him girls and giving them the rules for what they had to look like in different cities. What did he do with those girls? Have a Bible study? Lay hands on them? Yes he did do that but not the way he should have if he was such a strong Christian.

He didn't live the Word in his character or his lifestyle and he didn't preach it when he could have. He also did things that were completley immoral and lusty.

Why would you want to honor the dishonorable? Next will you tell us that it is okay to be gay or for lesbians to get married like Paris and Nicole just preached? (I am trying to find out the name of the church where that choir came from and I am going to nicely complain because that was immoral.)

Just because Mylon liked and copied him or got rich for a little while through him also doesn't mean Elvis is of God or godly. Mylon was violent too from what we have heard, meaning harsh and judgmental and bad temperamentaly. He hurt his wife and people who worked for him were angry about his controls and anger too. You can be addicted to control not just drugs and be vain.

I don't really look up to Mylon and I know Carman does. I suppose if someone loaned my his bus and made me think that famousness was all that or everything and I was Carman I would too. What about the way Mylon was with his first wife and backstage or if there was language and temper tantrums that would make a person blush.
It is all okay then because the Gospel was preached in songs and with stages? What about the people closest to these people, will they give an acounting to God for that even more?
Okay he was a janitor and won souls, but what about his home life?

Does God hate divorce and ungodly anger?

Most performers are phonies and I don't have to be in a pond of denial drowning and idealizing people because you want to be. Doesn't it make sense that phonies defend other phonies? Elvis was gross and so is anyone who is a big ego maniac who can't admit the truth about themselves to themselves and who also try force us to look up to them so they can make more money.

You have to be like Jesus after you are not a baby Christian and you have to have the fruits of repentance and the Holy Spirit.

Should I say to you, hey pop open a brewski, flip on E and check out the new Playboy articles this month. Careful don't park your beer on top of my King James???? You would go for that wouldn't you HLF or the others. You judge but say you don't and you lie about who you are also.

I suppose you think I should respect Charlie Sheen and Dog the Bounty Hunter too??????
Can you live without ever listening to or throwing away your Elvis music.
I will NEVER RESPECT ELVIS PRESLY. I will feel sorry for him and frustrated with ministers and Christians who think he was godly. If you base your life on your own thoughts it is error.


Carman should you change you mind and your internal imaging???



Be Holy as 'He' is Holy???
Elvis?
Mink
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man minkie get a life.. do u judge urself like u judge elvis and carman or are u holier than thou art? if u judged urself like u judge others it's no wonder why u are so miserable.
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UH WHAT??? EXCUSE ME?
DID YOU SAY THAT I AM MISERABLE??

Your posts are always so holy and edifying. You always come on attacking and putting people down. I can't recall a single post where you said something that wasn't hostile and was ever excellent in the Spirit of Christ come to think of it. Do have a little notebook with copies of your posts and do you look through and say My what an awesome poster I am?

I am not miserable and where you decided that is more likely something you feel about your life. I can "judge" Elvis as a performer, person and idividual of influence that is not a sin. Did you take a few Christian moments and follow along what I said about memorabilia? What would you do if your husband wasted thousands on an addiction and great big giantic fantasy? You are not very kind. Ask Jesus to give you a new heart and new ears that actually hear.

I can dislike and shout it all from the roof tops that people are getting weird now even more weird than they were already to begin with over the whole Elvis lies. Was I judging Carman? I don't really see that. I do see you judging just anybody you feel like it. Your posts are almost incoherent and brashy. You are judging me aren't you?

Yes you can bet on some black jack tables in Vegas that I am way more holy than Elvis ever was. Carman I don't know. I am not a public figure but I think he has some compromises that I don't have. I didn't know it was a competition until you made it into one. God knows if he is more holy or I am. I think it is more important to compare ourselves to the example of Jesus and do what he said which is to be holy as He is holy.

So you are cool then with Pee Wee and Charlie Sheen? Guess we shouldn't "judge" pedophiles or criminals or anyone. You are so completly compassionate and holy yourself as can be seen from your very graced and "intelligent" posts. You are a real minister of the Gospel!!!

God doesn't like us to be caught up in fantasies by superstars or drink in the spirituality of licentious and deceitful people. What is your compromise that you would rather put down someone who posts a standard or two than you having any "REAL" standards?
Do posts that you do create a bond of unity and or deliverance or just meanie beanie put downs?

Have No Fellowship with Any of the Unfruitful Works of Darkness But Instead Openly Reprove Them!
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When I said "sue anybody who outed him", that can be construed as a gay indication. No, it means outed in anyway. Like his temper or controllingness, sleeping with that actress, greed and so on that everyone has argued about.

If he hurts those who try to tell him things that are true or from the Lord especially, and his mom and partner relations person have sexual compromise through media in their lives; then he could very well be trying to hide something by the anger and the "power trips".

I don't know if he has done anything blatantly homosexual and that isn't what these posts are about.Any man who stays in hotels or has showtime and hbo and gets massages is at risk. He definitely, absolutely should not have those pay channels in his home and he should block all porn in hotels immediately upon check in or before. Possibility that he does this.

He should purchase the best filters and never peek at any "types" of porn. Gay things can become addictive even if repulsive at the start.

He should let someone check his computers as accountability and do whatever it takes to guard his life and his heart.

If he sins, he should not cover it up.

If he is hiding sexual sin it explains why he can be so hostile towards and has tried to "criminalize" or hurt some people who confront him.

Usually guilty people try to make someone who is speaking about things, look crazy or guilty of something to protect themselves.

If he isn't guilty then why hate accusers? Why not take criticism with the kind of humility and forgiveness that Jesus commands?

The Bible tells us that we will be "falsely" accused and persecuted and lied about; and that if we take it the way God tells us to, then He will give us a reward in this life and the next.

God is not reverencing of ethnicity either. He expects us to and even commands that ethos comes under Him. Acting Italian or being that way spiritually can be idolatry if it placed above God and His ways. We chose to reverence Him and lose any ethnic mind sets or agendas. I can't agree more about the Elvis thing in his life apparently.

He is not Elvis so it isn't spiritually sound or mentally stable to process your life thinking that you have the same dilemmas and trials or something like that that Elvis had. Just because Elvis read his Bible in the 50's-60's doesn't mean he was serving the Lord!

Ed Sullivan wouldn't show him girating on TV and a whole lotta preachers were upset with him. That is why he was tortured with the duality of his truly sinful life. He had hidden sexual sin and his music and acting was riddled with sexual sinful things. It is just crazy how people are trying to make a new buck, on the completely new notion that Elvis was a godly guy singing for God. When we see those "Gospel" discs in Christian stores that are Elvis, we complain very nicely.

This is very blunt but singing Amazing Grace by day and fondling to mutual orgasm sex with a minor by night, learning oral sex from Cybill Sheperd and kissing dozens of actresses plus and don't let us forget the drugs and gluttony in the afternoon and very bad temper himself; is not what the "new Elvis movement", is being "honest" about. Tony Orlando thinks Elvis was a God fearing, God loving man because he underlined powerful scriptures.

And he acts like Elvis' Bible is a special one. Performers who want the ultimate in success and popularity, look up to Elvis the performer and they are trying to reconcile the truth about him with lies.

The fruit is the proof. Idealizing someone is idolatry and lying and vain imagination and that "darkens the heart", and those that worship God}, "must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth".
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keep_it_true
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2006
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who started Carman on the Elvis track anyways?
Who else does he want to be compared to? Prince or Gene Simmons? Just watching the new Gene Simmons show is a darkening experience because of the demons and witchcraft and immorality there too. The whole set up is defiling.

Carman should not be identifying with things like that and why he would seems like a foot out joint Biblically speaking.
His mom likes Sean Connery. That is who she most wants to meet. He is a womanizer and terribly bad tempered person and abuses substances. Plus his movies are HORRIBLE SPIRITUALLY and morally JUST HORRIBLE DEFINITELY. More sexual immorality and power trips in the movies themselves, and wanting to be like that person.

How many scriptures are there about anger, and what does the Bible say about a person who is an angry person or what to do with it?
Scriptures not scripts!

Yes, and why does Jan Crouch have the "Elvis pose" of Carman singing in Nashville, on the intro for TBN TV? Why not him laughing or preaching? Singing Hunger for Holiness or God in America Again would be so much better. She is someone else who is very Christian (Ted)is many ways; but is materialistic, hides sins about her husband and is "sexually" dressed in a costume of a " much younger sexy woman". She also has a very bad temper and is meanly controlling behind closed doors. Her TV personna is just the opposite isn't it?

There is too too much anger and too too much denial in Carman's camp and whole lotta worldliness and carnality. Something is wrong.
It is a great question to ask.

Is Carman more concerned with what he is doing wrong or has done, or is he more focused on what he thinks or knows others have done wrong?

If Jesus came into his room one late night and held his hand with both of His, and looked him intently in the eyes, would He counsel Carman to forgive and to trust or to be bitter and to act like a "wronged dignitary", who hates those against his personal cause. If his friends that loved him, told him the truth about his life and the mental distortions he has, and about his mom what would he do? Stop being their friend?

He is too busy with a career to make any deep personal changes that he might be required or called by God too. He looks at things from a performer's point of view or a man with the challenges of a celebrity more than a Spirit Filled Christian man.

Is his "real cause" the Gospel or himself? Who in his camp or ministry would "hate" you and reject you out of hand for even saying that?

I totally believe that Carman has sent curses out to people with his words or carnal praying.
There is a deep black oppression that comes from him and infirmity from his mom and others that are around him. It is real and it has to be warred against. He sometimes acts as though he has some authority from God that he doesn't have just as his mom does.

They should be uncomfortable "out of love for God", that people look up to her spiritually in any inappropriate way. Carman ministries does not and can not appoint or make you an authority with God's people, God does that.

Holiness and humility qualify you, not power trips, being Italian or singing in big stadiums and neither do manipulative aggrandizing myspace pages.

You know a ministry by their fruits, ALL of the fruit, not just the shiny green apples of sold out concerts and prayer emails and the songs that God gave to Him.}}

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kookie77777
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Post Number: 44
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do u feel better now that u have puked out ur opinions? will be praying for ur delverance too huni..
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keep_it_true
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Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 3:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kookie hun, when will you decide to post something that actually ministers to the rest of the kingdom and to the Lord?

I doubt your prayers are heard or answered by a Holy God, Who is an All Consuming Fire and a Just Judge and a Loving, All Knowing Father, when you pray your ego and your hissy fit prayers.

Spell this word if you can.
E_ D_ I_ F _ I_ C_ A _ T _ I_ O_ N.

Then you can also attempt if not overwrought, R_E_A_L_I_T_Y and don't strain but one more, I_N_T_E_G_R_I_T_Y.

Now try to walk over to the library, find a dictionary or search in a dictionary site there at home and find a concordance that will give you insight into what that word and action means. You obviously have no idea.

Yours, and every prayer on this board; are firmly, completely bound, cut off and refused in the GREAT and all powerful Name, of Jesus!

Because, they are a bundle and expressed soulish perversion of witchcraft, prayed in the flesh and sent out in the wrong spirit, and not based in truth or love and the Spirit of the Lord!
But knock yourself out.

When you are perusing the concordance take a pit stop in the flurry of your hatred, to read all about Moab. Enlightening, unlike your posts or attitudes!

Since you are obviously so steeped in profundity and studious and dedicated to truth, you can find an especially insightful definition and application for perusing at dictionary.com, and see how it can structure your understanding further moving away from irresponsible thoughts and words, to real understanding.

Yes, I feel better now, thank you for your kind inquiry.

Including about Ted Haggard, and how things are being handled, and the fact that there is hope for Carman and correction that applies to his very arrogant, worldly, curse sending, "ministry people and Christian family".

I guess "they" would consider me a criminal now too and hate me just for saying anything they want to cover or contest, but OF COURSE 'say' they don't do things like that.
Sweet Spirit Filled Secure Gentle Honest People.

They say the opposite is true of them, they are so kind and balanced and they are but only wonderful, important victims. There is always the terrific teaching by a pastor from GA where he defines something called the "Evil Perverse Jezebel Opposite", that could very well apply to them. Can't be true Can't be true Can't be true of them, only of others.

They don't have to keep standards, they are "the" standards. Would they ask the Lord, or be able to actually hear Him, if anyone who doesn't "go with the fantasy and the "program", (programming)is right and *STOP THE UNIVERSE* folks;THEY might be wrong, a little sick and in need of cleansing, changes and abasing?

I will have to seek the Lord, carefully, and humbly without blaming others or exalting myself like some others my have the urge to do, and ask what "He thinks" and go ahead with that.

Jesus does heal us of blindness the physical kind and the spiritual kind.

Which one of you does God love the most here?
Any opinions, doctrines, and "discernment"?
Wait, I know! Carman and his Mom!
Pasta Mangnia I have been delivered!
Thank you Rome and New Jersey!
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keep_it_true
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If betting were okay with the Lord, how much would you bet that Carman will minimize and be angry, haughty and nash with his mind and teeth over these posts? His mom? Think that she will bless and humble herself and love?
Is it a sin to be arrogant and to be bitter? Wicked to deny you are and say you are victimized and great?

Is it a sin to deny that your hatred and ill will can curse someone/those that God loves and expects you to? Especially if you're in a ministry and the GREATEST "CHRISTIAN" ARTIST OF ALL TIME?

Carman, is Nancy sastisfied enough yet?

What are you "really" supposed to be doing and what fantasy do you need to break faith with, and be authentic according to God's opinion and will; and not other famous artists or your fan base and family?

Do you need God's phone number?
He even has ITT Coretelco types of services for the hearing impaired.

If you had a life question, who should you call?
Bill Gaither or God?
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kookie77777
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Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yeah yeah yeah and airing carman's laundry is edification???? one finger is pointing at carman and his family, but 3 are pointing back at you. you will not give an account of carman when judgement day comes but only of yourself.....
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 198
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Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blurb. What no caps Kookie?
Are you all calmed down now? Spending some time at a spa or something?
Were you trying to sing the Beatles song Yeah Yeah Yeah?
She loves me Yeah Yeah Yeah.

Do you love? Duh Tah Duh Huh?

So then if you are only going to give an account of yourself then why are you telling others what your judgment of them is and what they shouldn't be doing according to you? Does being loyal to Carman or his IMAGE make you closer to God?

If you see your brother in a sin and you don't warn him, the blood of his soul is on your hands. What does that mean about judgment?

CAN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU REPLY RUDELY AND IN SELF.



(Message edited by uncharmed on December 19, 2006)
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is the role player again Kookie with her special repeats. like: Duh Tah Duh Huh?
Yeah Yeah Yeah

now where is the sososososososososo
you know the SOS messages that really hold the answer for you. That you need help???
As for seeing your brother in sin, then why instead of airing his laundry here on a very public forum? Why don't you tell him to his face, or are you still related to a chicken?
Yup there too is the answer that's really wingin it.
You're so good at flappin yer beak about everyone else. So why don't you just fly up North already and lay some eggs?

By the way as for anyone else being rude naw, I'm just sending you a compliment. A chicken is a very popular bird, because it always squaks at every other bird.
You know the birds of a feather?
I knew you would (+:
So are you leaveing for BC yet?
Yup Christmas is sure looking better now. It will even look better when this one uncharmed chicken is gone.
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 204
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can say so as much as I want and I have said duh tah duh forever. Other people laugh and you are just jealous that you don't do or say anything original. You copy everyone. Sad.

You really have me! You are so right on. Thats right Winksie I repeat myself because I need help. Its not because I want to make a point or I feel something very deeply. You are so nice just like you tell us you always are.

Yes and geese are very intrusive and take over territories like ponds and lakes. They are aggressive and abusive and they are very messy.
Woww are they loud and bad tempered. Dumb too duh tah duh.
Yup you and HFL and Kook and the girlies that you "gossip" with are chickens and you always try the "pecking order" behavior here. Stop judging me because you are doing what Kook says, all those other fingers are just pointing back at you dorkascore.

Go and lay an egg and then don't keep it warm with your big butt because you leave it alone while you go peck on the keyboard late late late into every night.
Flappy Holidays. Honk louder. Duh!
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uncharmed
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You think I am a role player because you are. The people you defend and trust are big role players. You wouldn't know a genuine and real person when they appear to save your life. You try to make those people feel small or to see you in some puffed up light. You are so so so so transparent for all of your tricks Winks.

When I was real about my fiance or any part of my life you always make nasty little jokes or try to put me down. You are such a HUGE PHONEY.
YOU REPENT AND STOP PLAYING ANY ROLES. WOWW THEN YOUR LIFE WOULD BE EVEN MORE SO TOTALLY EMPTY.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So have you you now had a sex change then uncharmed? cause you just said in the other post that you are Carman. So then who is really messed up with being a female to then a male??
Thanks again for the funnys
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 211
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No comment. You are really being mean and you so so so so know how.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No I'm not you just can't descide what you are that's all. Maybe I can help you out HMMMMM do you stand up during TT time, or do you sit?

That should tell you the truth right?
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 214
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WHATEVER!!!!! Not going there EVER! So So so so crude and rude.

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What I do when I play golf or how I do it is not your business, Busy Body- Nosey Buddy!!
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nope just trying to help you figure out what sex you are. It's really simple if you think about it, and it's also natural not crude, or even rude.
God made us this way so I was just trying to help you figure it out that's it.
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uncharmed
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Post Number: 216
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So so so so so honest. God's name is very important be careful how you use it sweetest.

You are always so so innocent and never have a rude or crude bone in your body.
Woww.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now I wouldn't say that I'm still human and I make mistakes, but I also would never bring anyone elses faults here to a public forum and trash them by using thier real names. Even when I know some of the posters I still will not use their real names.
And as for using God's name I didn't use it in vain, but that God made us and we each have the human things to do right?
So I am not then using his name in vain at all.
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uncharmed
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HUH Duh what do you think you do when you are flippy and rage away threatening to reveal emails and announcing names like oxanna. You know paintings, bangs, mother daughter angst?

Sorry sweetums, you are so so so using His name and when you rebuke people who are not being rebuked by Him and you use His name, well duh.

So you are not human and you don't make mistakes or just as you finally admited to what we have been saying to you forever, you won't "say it"?! Duh Tah Duh.
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wingsaglow
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can you ever just stop already? and also please stop using that lingo Duh Tah Duh it doesn't even fit with the message. I am also not your sweetums I'm not into females like that.
By the way where is your Mommy and Daddy?
Shouldn't they have tucked you be in bed by now?

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