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     mklo Intermediate Member Username: mklo Post Number: 164 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 67.185.118.158 |
This deserves careful consideration: http://notnewtestamentchristianchurches.blogspot.com/2006/07/ntcc-purposes.html | ||
| leftin1991 Member Username: leftin1991 Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 63.25.2.104 |
What needs to be understood is that NTCC's by-laws did not originate with NTCC! That is, they did not write 90-95% of their own by-law book. It was merely plagiarized word for word from the Pentecostal Church of God (Joplin MO), the organization that Davises & the Gaylords were a part of during the 1960s. That is why they say so many things that NTCC doesn't really mean, such as this statement: "We shall not be confined in our fellowship to those affiliated with us, nor discriminate against any other member of the body of Christ." The blog writer was correct, it's mostly just window dressing, fluff and foo-foo. | ||
| imaskingwhy Intermediate Member Username: imaskingwhy Post Number: 247 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 63.237.228.225 |
Has anyone ever noticed the 30 day paid vacation for general board members as stated in the by-law book I have. The one I have is quite old though. How convenient when everyone else has to use their vacation time to go to conferences. BDH | ||
| tracypelfrey New member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 76.211.13.190 |
Let's go back to focusing on the MONEY and what IS and IS NOT done with it in NTCC: Follow the LINK ABOVE, which will then take you to ntccXposed.com...where you can read a copy of the by-laws of NTCC. Follow the Money For those of you men out there who have been a pastor or HELPER in NTCC's churches...or if you still are... Just STOP...for a moment and think about the amount of money generated in your local churches along...(not counting Graham)...and follow the trail of the money. Think about it. Absorb it into your mind. Get a clear picture of what is really going on. Now...Davis has spent a lot of time preparing for his legacy. He has had large buildings erected in Graham and in Missouri. I wonder...is he clearing land now...and are the building permits in order to begin work on the OLD AGE HOME? ...or the REST HOME FOR MINISTERS AND MISSIONARIES? (and God knows that bunch needs a rest)...or the CEMETARY (dont' make it too big guys...not many grow old and die in NTCC now do they?)...or for the CHARTIABLE INSTITUTIONS? I'm sorry...but I can't help going between extreme emotions when I read those by-laws and the STATED PURPOSES. I go between disgust and laughing my head off. MAYBE...when NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA, INC...finally gets the website up and running...(another joke)...they will update their STATED PURPOSES from their by-laws and they will tell us all about their doctrines...as Kekel said he would do on this very forum...LAST YEAR!!! And, more importantly, they might post some photographs of the various states of construction on these projects in their STATED PURPOSES...you know...like Davis did in the Trumpet everytime another stupid building went up...another building that wasn't used... ...The Education Building and the Library...my God...two big wastes of space. Go in that crazy Education Building...and see how much square footage is devoted to bookend lobbies with huge chandeliers. Who paid for this monstrosity? The stupid thing has an elevator...because to build something with two floors requires one by the State. Who uses the thing? No one when we were there. I can't tell you how many classrooms were not in use...they just sat empty...and then, when we heard it announced that Davis was going to build a LECTURE HALL...a LECTURE HALL? It's outrageous. Men and women are eating crackers at Conferences...men and women who love God and who are out there working hard to send the money brought in by local church members to Graham...men and women who have to scrape...and I mean scrape...together enough...just enough to get to the idiotic conferences where the same old tired things are sung and said...so that DAVIS CAN BUILD HIMSELF A LECTURE HALL? He's got the small chapel and the Education Building...(and if you go upstairs and see the room set up for PASTOR'S CLASSES...you know right away that the design was stupid and makes no sense at all)...and the Big Chapel...to lecture in all he pleases. He has to build a new Lecture Hall? And don't tell me that it is an alternate Fellowship Hall...because before we left Graham for Virginia...the Davis' gave my husband and I a tour of it while it was still being constructed. They showed us the closet of a kitchen...and he said that it was an afterthought to put a kitchen in that space. Ask any lady who has been in that kitchen what it is like to try and prepare food and move around and be able to do it without fumbling over each other that it wasn't an afterthought...the room screams to the world: "I AM AN AFTERTHOUGHT!" FOLLOW THE MONEY...and I'll tell you where it doesn't go... | ||
| tracypelfrey New member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 76.211.13.190 |
Let's go back to focusing on the MONEY and what IS and IS NOT done with it in NTCC: Follow the LINK ABOVE, which will then take you to ntccXposed.com...where you can read a copy of the by-laws of NTCC. Follow the Money For those of you men out there who have been a pastor or HELPER in NTCC's churches...or if you still are... Just STOP...for a moment and think about the amount of money generated in your local churches along...(not counting Graham)...and follow the trail of the money. Think about it. Absorb it into your mind. Get a clear picture of what is really going on. Now...Davis has spent a lot of time preparing for his legacy. He has had large buildings erected in Graham and in Missouri. I wonder...is he clearing land now...and are the building permits in order to begin work on the OLD AGE HOME? ...or the REST HOME FOR MINISTERS AND MISSIONARIES? (and God knows that bunch needs a rest)...or the CEMETARY (dont' make it too big guys...not many grow old and die in NTCC now do they?)...or for the CHARTIABLE INSTITUTIONS? I'm sorry...but I can't help going between extreme emotions when I read those by-laws and the STATED PURPOSES. I go between disgust and laughing my head off. MAYBE...when NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA, INC...finally gets the website up and running...(another joke)...they will update their STATED PURPOSES from their by-laws and they will tell us all about their doctrines...as Kekel said he would do on this very forum...LAST YEAR!!! And, more importantly, they might post some photographs of the various states of construction on these projects in their STATED PURPOSES...you know...like Davis did in the Trumpet everytime another stupid building went up...another building that wasn't used... ...The Education Building and the Library...my God...two big wastes of space. Go in that crazy Education Building...and see how much square footage is devoted to bookend lobbies with huge chandeliers. Who paid for this monstrosity? The stupid thing has an elevator...because to build something with two floors requires one by the State. Who uses the thing? No one when we were there. I can't tell you how many classrooms were not in use...they just sat empty...and then, when we heard it announced that Davis was going to build a LECTURE HALL...a LECTURE HALL? It's outrageous. Men and women are eating crackers at Conferences...men and women who love God and who are out there working hard to send the money brought in by local church members to Graham...men and women who have to scrape...and I mean scrape...together enough...just enough to get to the idiotic conferences where the same old tired things are sung and said...so that DAVIS CAN BUILD HIMSELF A LECTURE HALL? He's got the small chapel and the Education Building...(and if you go upstairs and see the room set up for PASTOR'S CLASSES...you know right away that the design was stupid and makes no sense at all)...and the Big Chapel...to lecture in all he pleases. He has to build a new Lecture Hall? And don't tell me that it is an alternate Fellowship Hall...because before we left Graham for Virginia...the Davis' gave my husband and I a tour of it while it was still being constructed. They showed us the closet of a kitchen...and he said that it was an afterthought to put a kitchen in that space. Ask any lady who has been in that kitchen what it is like to try and prepare food and move around and be able to do it without fumbling over each other that it wasn't an afterthought...the room screams to the world: "I AM AN AFTERTHOUGHT!" FOLLOW THE MONEY...and I'll tell you where it doesn't go... | ||
| tracypelfrey New member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 76.211.13.190 |
SORRY...I tried to delete the double post. It must have been my BIG HANDS...which hit the keys more than once. FIRST OFF...THE MONEY DOESN'T GO: To Help Start New Works Ever since I attended a fellowship meeting...I was told when the offering was taken up that it was going to go to HELP START NEW WORKS. I'm wondering what the preachers say now when the money is taken up? Does it stay locally now? Hopefully the public attention in this matter has caused them to change their ways...BUT...even if they have changed within the last two years...it still doesn't do away with the decades of offerings taken up at Fellowship Meetings in the name of GOING TO HELP START NEW WORKS. As any of us know who have gone out to START A NEW WORK...none of us were given a stipend from the FELLOWSHIP OFFERING FUND to HELP START THE NEW WORK. It is one thing if you never gave the impression that money was taken up to go to a particular cause, but when you say it plainly...over and over again...over many, many years...then I think an explanation is due as to where all that money is. Where did it go? Who has it? If it was given to some and not others...then what was the criteria? We have yet to find someone who received money...specifically from the Fellowship Offering Fund. TO BE CONTINUED... | ||
| tracypelfrey New member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 76.211.13.190 |
SORRY...I tried to delete the double post. It must have been my BIG HANDS...which hit the keys more than once. FIRST OFF...THE MONEY DOESN'T GO: To Help Start New Works Ever since I attended a fellowship meeting...I was told when the offering was taken up that it was going to go to HELP START NEW WORKS. I'm wondering what the preachers say now when the money is taken up? Does it stay locally now? Hopefully the public attention in this matter has caused them to change their ways...BUT...even if they have changed within the last two years...it still doesn't do away with the decades of offerings taken up at Fellowship Meetings in the name of GOING TO HELP START NEW WORKS. As any of us know who have gone out to START A NEW WORK...none of us were given a stipend from the FELLOWSHIP OFFERING FUND to HELP START THE NEW WORK. It is one thing if you never gave the impression that money was taken up to go to a particular cause, but when you say it plainly...over and over again...over many, many years...then I think an explanation is due as to where all that money is. Where did it go? Who has it? If it was given to some and not others...then what was the criteria? We have yet to find someone who received money...specifically from the Fellowship Offering Fund. TO BE CONTINUED... |
