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     in_the_zone New member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 71.56.236.247 |
I found this site a few months ago doing a search to see what happened to Dr. Joe. Since then, I've read all the comments and I've decided to speak up. First off, I am not a current student and i have no plans of renewing my "membership" as an RSE student. In 2005, I attended Beginner's, Assay 6, Beginner's Follow-Up and Future Now. By the end of Future Now, I decided it was time to graduate from RSE and so that is what I did: I graduated myself. I knew that JZ would take my money for more events as long as I believed that I didn't "get it" and had to keep returning. But now, let me tell you what happened during those events. For starters, I got a total of 5 cards off the fence spanning those 4 events. In Assay 6, on the field with Ramtha present, I went 200 years into the future and met a community of future dwelling beings. In Beginner's Follow-up, I left my body and met my Future Self in an orb in the arena as 1000 people were doing C&E...and we went for a ride in that orb. And lastly, in Future Now, during a torsion field discipline 6 quarters manifested on my mat and I had a witness (the woman sitting next to me) and lastly during Future Now, actually on the opening night, as Ramtha went out to the audience to greet people, he did a full head-to-feet bow 5 feet directly in front of me. Now, I have the same issues as a lot of people about JZ, the school, the seeming lack of warmth with staff members, the huge dollar amount to do these events and on and on. But let me tell you this. Ramtha's presence on the field during the first morning of Assay 6 lifted me into a entirely different vibration such that I slipped right through an opening in the grid and went 200 years out. Do I think Ramtha is real? Yes, absolutely. Then during Beg Follow-up, JZ was on the speakers broadcasting from her home into the arena. She explained to us how she personally does C&E. I did C&E exactly as she explained while we were there in the arena. 1000 people blowing. It was intense. Then I saw the orb above me in the arena...next thing I was in it with my Future Self and we traveled in the orb for the entire duration of that C&E session. I learned soooo much. So do I like the way JZ runs RSE? No, not at all. But she gave me a gift and for that I am thankful. My feeling is that sometimes it's easy to take the low road....to become institutional and expect an event to do something for us....like we expect our employers to give us a paycheck for showing up. For each of these events, I prepared myself relentlessly and vigorously in advance for weeks prior to the event. I practiced and practiced and practiced. I built my expectation of myself to excel, to achieve, to get the most out of my time and money investment of these events and it paid off. So sure, there's plenty that's goofy even downright incomprehensible about RSE. But in the end, one only gets out of something to the degree that one puts oneself into it. | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
in_the_zone, I think you're absolutely right. Even though I attended a beginner intro weekend and I didn't like the politics that I saw nor alot of what the Ram said or behaved, I still had the desire to go to Yelm just to learn the techniques. I don't question most of the techniques that I saw. What you might like to read based on your experiences is a few books by Hank Wesselman. He is a shaman. He went into involuntary trances at the beginning and now teaches, etc. He was tested by parapsychologists and does go into the 60Hz zone which is a known trance state (I personally spoke to the parapsychologists involved). The reason I say you might be interested is that Hank's books talk about his journeys... approx. 5000 years into the future. In the third book he begins to speak of the "grid". It is very interesting to read. Apparently his father had the innate ability to go into the past. Shamanism, via the Institute for Shamanic Studies is a good place to go if you become interested in this. What they do is they take the "ritual" away from the process, present you with the basic drumming and techniques required. It is not at all cultish. | ||
| in_the_zone New member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 71.56.236.247 |
in_the_zone here...thanks for your reply, teigh. In the time travel experience 200 years out, I met some beings...actually Ramtha had told us these beings were there. Anyway, these beings gave me a teaching while I was with them. They told me I can come back anytime I want but that I need to harmonize my vibration in order to move into a deeper communication with them. And so to harmonize my beingness is a wonderful assignment that I have been working on since they gave me that sharing. So my feeling is that I'm not really interested in Shamanic stuff...I'm much more interested in living in a state of inner harmony...an experience such as time travel, bi-locating, and the like is only as good as that which one learns from it and installs into one's consciousness. | ||
| in_the_zone New member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 71.56.236.247 |
in_the_zone here...thanks for your reply, teigh. In the time travel experience 200 years out, I met some beings...actually Ramtha had told us these beings were there. Anyway, these beings gave me a teaching while I was with them. They told me I can come back anytime I want but that I need to harmonize my vibration in order to move into a deeper communication with them. And so to harmonize my beingness is a wonderful assignment that I have been working on since they gave me that sharing. So my feeling is that I'm not really interested in Shamanic stuff...I'm much more interested in living in a state of inner harmony...an experience such as time travel, bi-locating, and the like is only as good as that which one learns from it and installs into one's consciousness. | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I thought you might be interested in reading more of the same experiences that's all. I learned the C&E technique. After other research about RSE, I wasn't sure if I wanted to put the effort into it. Is it the basic C&E that lets you accomplish this? Feel free to email me instead. ba.nancy@gmail.com BTW, do you believe it was Earth that you visited? Wesselman was on Earth.. specifically the now California area which was more like a rainforest. He validated his experience by the star alignment, etc. And they were humans. I'm curious to compare your results. Thanks for posting | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 88 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
It may interest you to know that an author from the early/mid part of the 1900's, wrote a number of books teaching about spirituality. The author's name is Very Stanley Alder. If you take the time to read her books (they are still available from various places), you will read about terms and techniques that are used in RSE. There are students, current and former, who have had experiences before RSE, and continue to have them after RSE, such as the things taught in RSE. Those things are also described elsewhere. Vera Stanley Alder's books, for one place. Alder just didn't copyright her terminology as specific techniques. in_the_zone wrote: "So sure, there's plenty that's goofy even downright incomprehensible about RSE. But in the end, one only gets out of something to the degree that one puts oneself into it." I agree. After being a student in RSE for 17 years, and no longer being current by choice (not due to financial constraints or similar considerations), I have come to realize that it has been ME all along, creating my life to the degree that I do so in time. I do not believe that I need RSE, to do so. The numerous "paranormal" and "intuitive" experiences that I have had in my life, happened before RSE, they happened during my tenure at RSE, and they continue to happen after it. | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 68 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.227.117.76 |
in_the_zone, Your experiences however wonderful do not justify the deceptions and hypocracies I have witnessed by JZ Knight and RSE. Perhaps you subscribe to the RSE doctrine of “The end justifies the means” This is a common excuse used by many a tyrant and cult leader to justify their actions, It is especially destructive if people are led to believe they are “the chosen ones” instructed by God almighty. I would caution you to look deeper into your crediting JZ Knight with your spiritual experiences; she has learnt very well how to capitalize on the sincerity and spiritual reservoir of others. Any “spiritual” experiences you had within RSE I would suggest came despite of JZ Knight/Ramtha… not because of. Whatchamacallit, There is a book called “ From The Mundane to The Magnificent” By Vera Stanley Alder, It was written around 1943. An inspiring book. But you will not find this book on the required reading list of RSE, Perhaps because this is where JZ Knight plagiarized the Blue Body Teachings… David, | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 90 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
David, I bought the book From the Mundane to the Magnificent from amazon as a used out of print book. There were, at the time I bought it a few months ago, only 4 copies listed. I paid $50 for the book. I also have two of Alder's other titles, as well. It seems quite clear to me, that the RSE teachings are based on these books. Others have noticed this, also. Blue body healing is mentioned, levels of consciousness, a being as an atom of consciousness, the grid, etc...the red flags are there and the handwriting is on the wall. As you mentioned, the ends does NOT justify the means. It took me a long time to realize that (which is another story), but once I did, and I learned about what I term the dark side of RSE, I saw things quite differently. There is a large fear factor in leaving RSE. I know plenty of current students, who are very much on the fence, and want to leave because they've realized what some of the rest of us have - but they are honest enough to admit that they are afraid to leave. People are afraid to leave, when they are not personally empowered, and, they are in a cult. They may aruge intensely to uphold the limits that are imposed upon them in the cult - so that they stay emotionally centered and don't have to face the fear of Life After RSE. Life is WONDERFUL after RSE. And if Ramtha is real, he is not going to be limited to working with students who are not current in the school. He should be bigger than all of that...you know...an UNLIMITED God. | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.227.117.76 |
whatchamacallit.. Life is WONDERFUL after RSE. Ahh Yes.. And now I understand that... Life was WONDERFUL before RSE. But my life IN RSE... is another matter. Becoming a Christ is not all its cracked up to be.. Chuckle.. David | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 96 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
Life IN RSE is another matter. The pressure to attend all events ($$$$) is enormous. The "peer" pressure to abide by the social consciousness of the cult, in your words and deeds, is enormous. The cost financially, physically (disciplines), emotionally (pressure to conform), and spiritually (always chasing the carrot that gets pulled away when the rules change in the middle of the game and then YOU get blamed for it), is enormous. Someone once said to me, that one doesn't have to taste dill pickles, to know that ice cream is sweet. We don't have to grow through pain, suffering, lack, subservience, enduring long hours in all sorts of weather, outdoors doing disciplines, to know the sweetness of our own spirituality WITHIN. We can grow in love, joy, expansiveness, freedom, and unique individuality as a sovereign person. I prefer double chocolate fudge ice cream, with chocolate chips in it, please. Hot fudge on top and fresh, whipped cream ! YUM. | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 97 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
teigh, Maybe instead of putting the effort into C&E, you can do your own "test". If you really have a heart's desire that you wish to manifest, focus on it yourself, as being part of who you are, having accepted that you are a willing recipient of your desire. Then, if it's something that comes into your life fairly quickly, you will know you did not need to do C&E to obtain it. I have had this happen, myself. So, to me, it's my experience - not philosophy. I have found plenty of cards on the field, some of which manifested into my life. Perhaps they were going to, anyway. I no longer attribute the positive experiences in my life, to RSE. I know now, that it was within ME, all along. I really AM "Dorothy" in the Wizard of OZ. The "magic" was always within me, and not in some fraudulent wizard outside of me, that I may give my power away to. "Ramtha" says we NEED him to evolve, as he is the spokesperson for our God, and he is our Hierophant. I disagree. I have a spirit within, and it is directly tapped into All That Is. I no more need Ramtha, than I need a priest to go to confession to. Unfortunately, it took me 17 years and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to figure it out. But, I DID figure it out ! The resources from which I could have learned, are many. The pressure to be "loyal" ONLY to RSE, is immense. At one time years ago, students were threatened with expulsion from school, if it was discovered that they went to another channeler. HELLO???????????? RED FLAG. | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I agree whatcha. I"ve had many an experience in this life that was, IMHO, attributable to myself or a guided influence. I guess I was looking for a good focus method. BTW thanks for mentioning the Alder books. I just put an order in for a few. I collect parapsychology books and the sort, so they will be a nice addition. (So far no Ramtha books though ;) ) Oh, I noticed Alder did a forward in a book about by Ramala. Anyone know of Ramala and what its about? | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 100 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
teigh, Which book did Alder do a forward by Ramala? Wow, another indicator; Ramala = Ramtha. Very suspicious. You would love my bookshelf. It's extensive. I can't give up my books ! Have you listened to Carolyn Myss' work ? She's not claiming to channel (she thinks it's hooey, anyway), but she has a graduate level background in theology and psychology, also. She's a medical intuitive. Before she "went public" with her psychic ability (had it since childhood), she worked with Dr. Norman Shealy. He would give only a patient's first name and age, and she would focus on their body to diagnose them. Her accuracy, in 8 years of this training and fine tuning, was/is around 95%. I believe she is truly gifted, and she takes credit for it, herself. Anyway, her books/tapes are readily available and there are no mandatory events, outside of which, you are ridiculed for not attending (real Gods manifest the money and time, you know), and the info is not with held for absenteeism - saved for the elite. $$$$$ I mention Carolyn Myss because she is one of my favorite resources. She teaches what she knows about "how to" manifest. Human being to human being. I steer clear of channelers at this point. I feel spiritually raped by my experiences at RSE. I am not a victim, either. I have a wonderful life. It's simply the facts, Ma'am. I taught those teachings, with total faith, to my children. That's faith. Now, I must backpeddle, so they never fall prey to such as the likes of JZ Knight. Those teachings are, in my opinion, partial truth and partial lie. That's why so many spend their lives until death there, with no results. They are VERY sincere. The give up everything (we are told we should be willing to give EVERYTHING up), but JZ gets richer and more materialistic. Hmmm. Truth should be free. It is - when we go within to our own spirit - straight to the SOURCE of creation, to our original atom of being - spark of consciousness - whatever term one uses. It is still within us. Ammachi is another one who is in the body, claiming her own divinity - not some ghost channeling through her. She's from part of India. I have read her books and I met her once last summer (FOR FREE). I have never donated to her ashram, nor will I. Is she for real ? I can't say. But, the message is in her books, and they are very inexpensive as books go - about ten dollars for thick books. Everything I have ever heard at RSE is in the Amma books ! And I have heard about 25,000 hours, in the audience, with Ramtha, and probably triple that in tapes/books. So, I know what I'm talking about. Breakfast calls.....fresh, warm bagels and tea are ready. | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I do have a Myss book. Don't think I finished it. I am however reading the third book in a series by "Adam" who is a Canadian kid with amazing healing powers. He talks about quantum field and how he sees holograms of the body, etc. Its interesting. Funny thing is, after reading this board and some thing about What the Bleep... I went to buy the third book and noticed the two reviews on the back were from two people on What the Bleep. I double checked the first two books and they don't. Any comments on: Pavel Mikoloski and Cate Montana? I don't remember who they are from the movie. This kid has alot of teachings in Qi Gong since he is of mixed background. Adam also has been mentored by Edgar Mitchell. This last book is about the quantum side. I don't see any influence of RSE so far. The second book was about about how to heal ourselves with visualizations. His intention really is to empower others. Here is the link to the Ramala thing: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=502904746&searchurl=an%3Dramala%26y%3D0%26kn%3Dramala%2Balder%26x%3D0 I also took a quick look at this: http://www.ramalacentre.com/home_page01.htm | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.227.117.76 |
interesting posts... Vera Stanley Alder....Ramala, + Judith Darlene Hampton + Ramtha + $$$$$$$$ = a very suspicious equation indeed…. David (Message edited by David McCarthy on June 25, 2006) | ||
| in_the_zone New member Username: in_the_zone Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 71.56.236.247 |
you know, whatchamacallit, I agree with you that Ramtha tells partial truth and partial untruth. In fact, there have been times when I felt that Ramtha told all untruths on purpose and that by doing this he was provoking people to find the truth themselves. Funny thing, I can't listen to Ramtha...on tapes & CDs, it's as if there's nothing there...no vibration and I don't hear a thing. In person isn't much better but and here's the big but for me, I tune into his vibration and I find it extremely powerful which I shared on an earlier posting a few days ago when I went into the future while Ram was on the field the first morning of Assay 6 last year. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 101 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
in_the_zone, the FACT is that we do not know if ramtha is real or not. what we can do, is evaluate our experiences, or choose blind faith, and decide if we believe he exists and genuinely channels through jz. if he does, does he do so 100% of the time ? i certainly would not deny you the experience you had ! i know plenty of people, myself included, who have had ...let's just call them for the sake of conversation ... mystical experiences, at the school. but they have happened other than being in the school, too ! this is important to remember. WE are tapped into source. WE can tap in, anywhere, anytime. it's free. i am only recently non-current. i did plenty of work whereby i was told (along with others) that I "made it" to 500 years in the future. then, at another event, we were told we were hopeless and were going nowhere. which is it ? (rhetorical question) i saw visions. i had experiences of futuristic things. however, i have had them since i was a little girl. they are not new to me and i cannot truly say i understand what caused them then, or in the more recent past, (in school),to happen to me. i'm not a nutcase. i'm a normal, intelligent person. but i have had mystical experiences, and i cannot say i can be SURE that they were a result of ramtha being real, and working with me to evolve me toward union with My God Within. there was a time when i would have readily attributed my experiences to ramtha's guidance. i no longer can do that. in a very recent audience, ramtha said something i have not heard before. he's always said that if you leave the school, you are a quitter and a victim. well, i never accepted that, anyway. i know lots of dedicated, sincere people who simply refused to accept the status quo with regard to the business functions of the school, and even from "ramtha" (wine ceremonies, humiliation, vulgar swearing in front of children, etc). they voted with their feet - what courage that took. if ramtha is real, i hope that i will be blessed with CONCLUSIVE PROOF which brings a smile to my face. i would like that very much, because despite the fact that i'm a happy person, with a "good" life, i have an emotional scar of betrayal due to what i have directly seen/heard/experienced with myself and others that i care about - even if i don't personally know them on a close basis. i CARE about them. it is not alright that certain people have been cast aside like cockroaches, and publicly humiliated on top of it. Continued in part 2 of 2 | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 102 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
as david questioned .. and i will answer for myself .. the ends do not justify the means. "ramtha" could easily choose to be a teacher who set an example of extremely high morals, integrity, respect, nobility, etc., in how he approaches the teachings, and the students. that has not been the case. students are told to be that, and yet the teacher does not exemplify it himself - even when children are present. that is disturbing, in my book. you believe you tune into ramtha's vibration and it is most powerful in his presence when channeling. i will never deny you that. i will only suggest that you question WHAT or WHO (or both) that you tapped in to. you are assuming that it was ramtha's vibration. let me say it this way ... if it was not ramtha's vibration, does it make the experience any less real ? right now, on the east coast it is 5 p.m., and yet, right now, on the west coast, it is 2 p.m., yet both are happening NOW. so, expand that ... right now on planet earth it is june 25th. but right now in the pleaides, it could be 200 years ahead, both happening right NOW. who can say that YOU (or any of us) did not tap into some life existing in that time-space, NOW ? nobody. do you need to be in rse with ramtha's power, to do so ? NO ! do you need ramtha's permission, on any level, for THE ENTITIES IN THE PLEIADES to be aware of your presence ? no ! i would imagine that they are free beings who can put their attention wherever they wish. i only suggest that you take credit for YOUR mystical experiences YOURSELF. whether ramtha is real, and was there, is secondary, in my opinion. just my thoughts ...  | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I could be anticipation of Ramtha's presense or the expection itself that drives the vibration higher. Pure excitement will do such a thing. I think there are several types of people that go to this school. So far I have categorized two groups: Those with *strong* innate psychic abilities which thrive in the environment and are successful. I say strong because everyone has them but some people have more natural access to it (just like playing a piano) And those that are romanticized by the environment and the subject matter. I think its these people who continue to return. Its not just the events but its the party atmosphere. Its equivalent to the yearly family trip to the cottage. Its a community and its always good to see friends and feel like you belong. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 103 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
When mediums gather together in a circle, they will sing songs (church, too). Why? To raise the vibration in that room. What do they do in RSE? Get people sending out energy - with the loud music that makes you want to dance (or put in earplugs!)  . It certainly generates excitement ! It is very exciting to see what one believes is their genuine spiritual teacher coming to be amongst them and teach them "truth" about their spiritual evolution. Dedicated students...who had better conform, or else. Conditional "truth" and conditional "empowerment of your God". People who have questioned authority have in some cases, been physically thrown out of the arena. I witnessed this happen to one woman who simply did not take her seat quickly enough. She was thrown out, literally, in the rocks on the ground. Why such intolerance ? What is the threat in being questioned, if you have TRUTH ???? There are clear control and suppression issues in the school. Some folks have a theory that it's the ones you call strongly psychic (and I do agree it comes more easily and naturally to some), that are groomed for elite positions in the school. There are a number of reasons for that I won't elaborate on now. But, yes, some people join the school, already "psychic", and then they get the teachings and fall into the trap that everything else they accomplish is due to the *teachings*, and not to their own ability. I don't see that as any different that the Catholic church putting a priest as an intermediary between the parishioner and God. You are totally right, in my experience, that there are people that attend the school because they have become accustomed to the social environment of being with "like minds". That "feels" good. It's an emotional high, as it would be to spend time with friends or relatives one hasn't seen in a while, but shares a relationship with. However, the difference is (to more or less degree), many (not all), of the relationships in the school, are superficial. Once I left the school, some of my "friends" dropped me like a hot potato. Fanatical. Others have experienced the same thing. Continued in part 2 | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 104 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
I don't harbor any ill will toward them. I just have compassion for their limited minds and hearts. I know now, who my real friends are. It takes a lot of effort to justify and rationalize away the many hypocrisies, and discrepancies that are rampant in that school. When students "quit" because they choose a different path, it presses buttons in others. They don't want to look at it. If they leave and miss the ride on the big ship in the sky, what will become of them ? So they stay. FEARFUL choices. I say if that's a ship that will suppress me, I don't want a ride on it ! I deserve better than that. Many of us do. They are romanticized by it all - and fearful at the same time. It is a community, also. But, it's a divided community. I considered moving there at one time and I am SO grateful that I did not go through with it. A significant number of people have moved their with the best of intentions, only to leave at a later date, emotionally scarred, and many times, financially broke. Others have stayed the course, waiting for their fabulous wealth, or healings...and they died waiting. One man died right in the audience. We were told for YEARS that nobody in that teaching would die because they were learning. How long can you sustain "faith" in such a claim, when your friends age, and die of awful diseases, too ? Yet, they will be blamed, or it will be rationalized away as "They chose to die and that's okay." NO ! Many of them focused daily on being healed and whole again and living to be 200 years old. They believed the teaching would kick in and one fine morn, they'd be fine again. They died. They WANTED to be masters. Christs. Nope ...not in 20 something years....not a one. Red Flag. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 105 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
teigh, Don't think I know who Cate Montana is. Pavel has been in school a LONG time. Think he still is. However, a number of folks connected to the What The Bleep movie have left the school. Their eyes were opened to the control/suppression/tyranny of someone who needs to have all of the limelight and cannot share any of it. You figure that one out, LOL. Interesting links about Ramala. I must admit that it appears that those teachings are about SELF empowerment. Also the comment about the teachers doing a last teaching. The delivered their message and that was it. Done. Now, the students need to stand on their own feet and LIVE it. How the channeling process is a separation from God as it keeps one's focus without. Geez, that's what I've been saying in my previous posts ! Maybe there is hope for me after 17 years. It is about my connection to the God within me. Period. I would like to read those books. Am curious, and I enjoy reading books. The first one listed, says sold out. Maybe amazon has it. The medium mentioned that brought this couple together, is a medium I know of. She lived not far from me. Small world !!!! | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 11 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I recommend the Adam books. I'm reading the third one now and he did mention wanting to open schools (which made me cringe) in order to teach people how to heal themselves. That made me feel a bit better. He's half Native American and have european. I found the first book to be basic. The second is on visualizations to heal yourself. I think you can go right to the third if you're interested. There is some overlapping too. Let me know if you do read them. There are some interesting discussions to be had. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 108 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
adam books ? did you mention those already? doesn't ring a bell. i'm trying to get through the vera stanley alder books now. not a lot of time to read right now, but i'm doing my best. it's not for a lack of wanting to . | ||
| teigh New member Username: teigh Post Number: 12 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 72.139.26.252 |
I mentioned them about 2 or 3 of my replied up there. I thought that is what you were referring to hehe. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 110 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
Ohhh. I was thinking of Vera Stanley Alder ! oops !! |
