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david_mccarthy
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Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The point is, after the movie, I was not obsessed but thrilled that there was someone out there "researching" and science was meeting up with religion. I found an ad for an Emoto lecture by last minute chance... and I went. No regrets there. Interesting research and its out there if anyone wanted to try to reproduce.

Then... I found myself at the Ramtha site for the first time. I noticed that there was a beginner video workshop nearby only one week away (not at Yelm). My finances were pointing me to go... my instincts said go... I'm not a morning person but I got up and went just the same!

Here are my observations. I did sign that gag order so I may try to refrain from names and places but I am truthful in what I say and feel. Conversations mentioned took place outside of the facility and therefore not bound by the order in my eyes.

1 }copyrights, trademarks, illegal to photocopy handouts... all these restrictions raised red flags for me. I believe spirituality shouldn't be trademarked. I understand the need to keep something sacred and unscathed, but this was over the top
2 }While watching the videos, if Ramtha or another teacher so much as raised his hand parallel, people in the room would do the same and try to mimic. Keep in mind… this was a video! This was concerning.
3 }I started to find out, while researching Ramtha more, that What the Bleep was not objective: the directors and many of the scientists were students of Ramtha. This probably bothers me the most.
4 }Lets not forget the gag order.. .that says enough for itself
5 }”immortal gene” and no aging… It was obvious that this woman, who has recently turned 60 as they said in the lecture, has had extensive plastic surgery. The chin tuck I noticed in the movie. The lips… the face… the moisturizer she puts on her face to reflect the light and avoid the wrinkles. Sure she has the money, why not get it done. And she has a face to uphold to the public for her business. But when your business preaches anti-aging… that’s just laughable.
6}Probabably the most alarming thing I heard all weekend was a discussion between a new person and the facilitator of the session. The new person wanted answers to clarify techniques. First, it was said that no more questions would be taken unless they had to do with attending the upcoming retreat ($$$), so the beginner spoke to the facilitator in private. The music was so deafening (they refused to turn it down when asked) that they both went outside. The beginner asked specific questions about the techniques we were shown. The facilitator did not know the answers and stated that after being there for 7+ years, she doesn’t know. Even one guy who was there for 25 years apparently didn’t know. If it took Ramtha 7 years to figure it out… and now he’s figured it out which means its easier to teach… then why is “enlightenment” never accomplished for his students?
7 }Ramtha was clear in one thing, and I respect straightforwardness, which is his intention is to create a religion. “So Be It”, “Amen”… its all ritual. I did not learn anything new at this school. I only learned Ramtha’s ritual for what I had already known.
8 }Oh and finally… in order to stay “current” with the school, you are required to attended two or three events per year. No wonder people are broke.
9 }There was blatant degradation of Christianity (blaming the Jews for Jesus’ death was a bit surprising. I believe that is still a controversial sore spot), trashing astrology, swearing... It was very hateful.
10 }One truth that Ramtha spoke: “You have to become materialistic”. How true. If you want to be fabulously wealthly, no doubt there is a need for materialism. But is that really enlightening?

continued....

(Message edited by David McCarthy on June 21, 2006)

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