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sallydaniels
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Username: sallydaniels
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 68.170.49.37
| | Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 7:35 pm: | 
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So, who are you, and how do you know this to be true? |
faithandtruth
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Username: faithandtruth
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 208.54.15.1
| | Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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You are pretty bold in the things you are saying while keeping your identify a secret. I know that most of the things you are saying are not true, and the Brocks over a long road have been proven innocent of the charges you are bringing against them. For someone who is concerned about the "body" it would seem to me that you would follow the scripture on an issue like this. Plus there are people who were involved in the investigation [15 years ago] who now say if there is any question on the Brocks they should be contacted so that truth would be known. Maybe you should contact them before you post anymore accusations. Remember who the accuser of the brethren is before you decide to post anymore what you are calling facts. |
sallydaniels
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Username: sallydaniels
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 75.85.94.51
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
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And you say "many people know this to be true". Does this mean that you do not? It sounds as if you are basing your acusations on hearsay. I asked you "how do YOU know this to be true?". I meant YOU, not other "christians" who have filled others' ears with stories which become embellished or tarnished as they get passed along. I would be interested to hear YOUR story, if in fact you have one. |
huck_finn
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Username: huck_finn
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 67.159.44.138
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:13 pm: |
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Where there's smoke, there's fire, and this guy is smoky as all hell. |
bachman
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Username: bachman
Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 162.83.236.205
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:53 pm: |
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Curious if this is the Tom Brock from California?
I was saved in Thousand Oaks, CA in 1974 and there was a "youth house" called the New Life House run by some "Jesus Freaks" and Tom Brock was one of the leaders. (Long hair and beard, but everyone looked like that!)
I think (?) he was married, probably in his early 20s?
Anyway, is there a link to his ministry? |
grimaldi
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Username: grimaldi
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 76.173.216.41
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 8:58 pm: |
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Huck_finn - Do you know Tom Brock? Yes, he is a deciever, liar, and serial adulterer (and more) of 30 years...all while calling himself a "minister". I have personally talked to many of the victims rather than believe "talk". Unfortunately in so doing I have found that what Tom and Suzie refer to as "vicious gossip" and "talk" is very very true. Stories are so similar from victim to victim even when they don't know each other. Can you shed any light further? It is a crime what he has done to his family alone. If they only knew how much he has lied to them. I feel very sorry for the ones working with him now. |
grimaldi
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Username: grimaldi
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 76.173.216.41
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 9:30 pm: |
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Sallydaniels (I mean, Suzie)...you sound a little defensive and freaked out. Have you ever once stopped to consider that these "stories" are TRUE? That would mean you've been lied to for 30 years. Stop and consider the ramifications of that. I do believe you know the truth but choose to walk in denial as it's too much for you to deal with. These are not just old stories but new stories with new women every few years. He will be caught and you will finally have to face the truth about the man you have enabled all these years. All the important people he surrounds himself with will eventually discover the truth as sin cannot go on forever. God will not be mocked and as the Word says "that which is hidden will be shouted from the rooftops". It is wrong to protect one who has damaged so many lives. Have you ever talked to the victims (that you know about) yourself or do you just choose to believe his embellished "stories"? It sounds to me that the one who is believing false stories is yourself. You should take your own advice and get the facts from the women...it would be enlightening. Yes, where there is smoke there IS indeed fire. |
olga_olson
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Username: olga_olson
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2007
Posted From: 12.107.111.221
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 10:46 pm: |
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Truth is always considered a lie until the liar is exposed to the light. Fact is always fiction to those who choose not to believe. Truth is always hard to swallow when you have been deceived by someone you trust. Faith & Truth, please give the names of those who conducted an investigation 15 years ago for those who need to contact them. What about investigations 30 years ago, 20 years ago...what about the last 10? There are more recent events and that is a fact. Yes, where there is smoke...there is fire. |
grimaldi
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Username: grimaldi
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 76.173.216.41
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 12:22 am: |
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The sad thing is that this guy has lived in torment his whole life. He lies so easily and so completely that even those closest to him are deceived. He has had to live with the knowledge of his actions - to face himself in the mirror each day, to be alone with his thoughts before his God. There is compassion for him, yet he needs to be out of ministry as he has sorely abused and misused his position. Scripturally, morally, and relationally he has lost all credibility. It's so tragic as he may lose it all someday. |
grimaldi
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Username: grimaldi
Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2006
Posted From: 76.173.216.41
| | Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 11:43 am: |
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Bachman - yes it is the same Tom Brock. He has a 30 year history of a well crafted public persona of a "great man of God" while behind the scenes he is a serial predator of vulnerable women in ministry near him. He is quite skilled in his game and his moral character is deceptive on every level. When he is caught he moves his ministry to another place in the world. It's a continual history. |
sallydaniels
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Username: sallydaniels
Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 75.85.89.190
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 1:01 am: |
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"Grimaldi", It's funny that you think I am Suzie. I assure you I am not. I don't know how much of what you say is true, but I do know that you are a coward. You boldly make accusation after accusation behind the protection of your computer screen. Which part of your finger pointing do you feel is Scriptural? |
sallydaniels
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Username: sallydaniels
Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 75.85.89.190
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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I understand that Mr. Brock may have sinned in his past, as have you and I. In fact, I bet you still sin (in thought and deed)to this day. I'm sure you would not be helped to have your failings posted and hashed out over and over and over in a public forum. It's a disgusting thing that "Christians" do to one another. They circle around a weak one like a pack of wolves, and when he/she finally falls, they pounce on the fallen member and mutilated them beyond repair. All in the name of Jesus, of course. I think my question is, why do people like you feel that it is your job to destroy another believer's life by posting their failings on world wide media. Isn't that the job of the accuser of the brethren? Does he really need your help? Even in the world's legal systems, this is considered wrong. I thought it was our job to correct and encourage and "come along side of" one another. If you do not have a personal relationship with this person at this time, I don't think you have the right to be speaking into his problems. And since we are all supposed to be "in the ministry", I wonder if we should strip you and your loved ones of their life in the kingdom because of your sins past and present. |