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     mercy4 Intermediate Member Username: mercy4 Post Number: 243 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 209.222.250.41 |
After looking closer at some recent a.m. posts, some words used were very alarming. For a long time people have been complaining that certain people were praying wrongfully, using curse words instead of God's words of life through Christ. And I've felt spiritual attacks from here too many times, and have sometimes wondered if someone wanted me sick or maybe even dead. There could be some people reading these posts and not writing in who are also doing this. One of the posters warned at least one person about this in the past. So I'd like to know who taught them to pray this way, and why do they think they have this right as a Christian? In my church I've never been taught to pray curse or death words over anyone, and have been taught it's a serious matter to do so. I have never been taught to return curses or evil words back to anyone either. What happened to the Bible scriptures that speak of blessing those who curse us, having an attitude of forgiveness, and of praying for God's will? And those people who have spiritual discernment and words of knowledge form the Lord, are you telling people with the love of God or acting like a clanging gong and a self-righteous hypocrite? Are you here mostly to put people down and upset them, or to correct with the sensitivity of the Holy Spirit, and pray with the love of God? Some of you don't seem to think anything is wrong with rebuking people with words of death. I'm concerned that this will backfire on you, relating to sowing and reaping, and you might suffer extra things because of this wrongdoing. Some also seem to focus too much on the Old Testament, and maybe have developed a judgmental attitude from going too far. The Old Testament should be funneled through Jesus Christ, the author and finisher of our faith. Take any wrongdoing before the Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of forgiveness, asking Him to take it over completely. And plead the blood of Jesus. And break the curses in the Name of Jesus and ask for a blessing, and do not return curses to anyone. Instead, ask the Holy Spirit to convict them of their sin, so they might someday repent, get right with God and reap blessings. Jesus prayed words like this: Our Father Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our Daily Bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, (in Jesus' Name), Amen. ------ A prayer from my church: Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Your Mercy. | ||
| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 402 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
And now I know why, and who it is, and that they will cancel me off of the FN as soon as they read this, but it will already be here for all to see. When these threads die down. There is always some one who comes back in to get it all going again, and there is a reason why. It brings in more money from sponsors when the threads are so busy. Now check out who it is that keeps on changing their names, because they are using the money to fund their one world religian by using Christians even to slaundering our families, because they have no morals or tsate at all. Read this and you be the judge of the real truth that was sent to me by a well known person. Wingsy Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, The information below is to inform you just in case you were not aware. There is a chance that you are indirectly supporting these other sites below if you financially support Factnet. However, even if you are not directly financing Factnet you could still be indirectly supporting them by helping to keep this site popular, therefore encouraging others to financially support through sponsorship or otherwise. This is not for those who are unbelievers of Christ. Nor is it intended to harm Mr. Wollersheim. He and others can freely serve whatever God they so choose. It is merely to inform those who belong to Christ, because they will be held accountable for their actions and need to be informed. Whatever they decide from this point on is between them and God, but at least they will have a choice. All the information below is public information. I know that Mr. Wollersheim will have no problem with this post, because he believes in "Freedom of Speech" and in warning people of things that may harm them... physically or spiritually. All of these sites, plus six more (that I know of) are owned by Lawrence D. Wollersheim who is the owner of Factnet, also known as "The Ghost." http://www.integrativespirituality.org/ http://whois.domaintools.com/Integrativespirituality.org Integrative Spirituality is a new type of open source religion... Our non profit spiritual organization is grounded in the New Integral Worldview... At Integrative Spirituality humankind's spiritual heritage includes both the western and eastern spiritualities as well as the emerging new form of spirituality called Evolutionary Spirituality... Integrative Spirituality is a spirituality that strives to re-integrate the spirituality and mysticism of both the East and West. To this end we often use different names for God; Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, etc... and/or Buddha or Buddhahood, Brahma, | ||
| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 403 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
The Tao, Enlightenment, Gaia, The Ultimate Mystery... and Godha, Bod, Nondual, Universal One. http://www.worldspiritualityday.net/ http://whois.domaintools.com/Worldspiritualityday.net World Spirituality Day each December 31st is an all denominations celebration dedicated to renewing one's most profound and transformational direct spiritual experiences. These profound and transformational spiritual experiences are the essence of personal spirituality that lies at the core of all great religions. Being a part of this all-faiths celebration of Spirit will supercharge your New Year's resolutions and transition with the revitalized energy and wisdom of your own most profound personal spiritual experiences. http://www.spiritmates.org http://whois.domaintools.com/spiritmates.org Welcome to Spirit Mates the new online venue for dating, matchmaking and personals ads venue for all denominations of cultural creatives... Cultural creatives are activists who tend to be global in perspective and learning and, somewhat optimistic... They are the activists who volunteer for good causes and they are found at the overlap of all the consciousness movements as well as the various social, civil, gay, gender equality and peace movements in our societies... Spirit Mates is sponsored by Integrative Spirituality an omni-denominational, non profit organization. | ||
| mercy4 Intermediate Member Username: mercy4 Post Number: 249 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 209.222.250.125 |
Wingsy, for a long time I got the impression that this website was not run by someone who is a Christian, and now there's confirmation that he runs the globalist site. But that does not discount all that has happened here, and I don't believe that most of the people here came because of who runs it. There might be some posters doing that, but that's not the main reason why this has happened. I believe, as said before, that God has been trying to get Carman's attention to get some important changes made. Outoftheheart, even though I wouldn't use the negative approach you have, and we have been at odds with each other on that, the nice comments you made about me in the other thread were appreciated. And what truth you have to say, minus the insults to people, can be discerning and of the Lord. It would be appreciated if you would please add more love from the Lord to your posts. | ||
| no_no New member Username: no_no Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.130.100.144 |
This is interesting and I can appreciate your commentary mercy4. Let all that you do in word and speech be pleasing to the Lord. | ||
| kookie77777 Member Username: kookie77777 Post Number: 65 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 68.0.79.87 |
no no u dribble out of both sides of ur mouth.. salt and fresh water does not come out of the same spout.. | ||
| baloney New member Username: baloney Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 64.134.5.42 |
Zebra you mean like this stuff above? thanks for the shout out. shucks.  we watch tbn from time to time and while there are many things that they provide, (the Lord through them) and a wealth of edification and good preaching, anointed music (not all of it 'frankly' now)what's disconcerting is the lack of standard that is safe and mature. and they know so much better! (that/this is no endorsement of hatred or imbalance towards them!) when unhealthy people get impacted by a blast of truth they interpret it as abusive. people react angrily to the truth too, especially if they don't want to believe that it's weird to charge people to talk to you when you are "a minister". subscription- OK that's understandable, but the "bonds" and "beliefs" go a tad too deep from what you are saying. it's very uncool that carman changes his history and his story whenever he feels like it for monetary and fan based appreciation reasons. when people want to stay in denial to accomplish their desires or out of fear, they get down right hostile if you challenge them or don't believe their fairytale version of things. the more controlling they are, the more hostile. what would carman do if he overheard the staff at the Holy Land park, (which is very cool for what it is)talking with concern and spiritual distress about ungodly changes jan is making, her controllingness and being off emotionally and the demand that all of her actions be seen as beneficial and innocent and that a Principality spirit is coming and has to be prayed about that is coming with them? "don't bug me i'm hungry, where's the the little pitas and hummus cup they sell there?" well he would keep it to himself, dismiss it, and look forward to the next time he can sign autographs, receive special treatment there as a celeb and guest artist and hope that his TV appearance will boost his new record sales. whatta guy. whatta New Testament Christian. whatta selfish fella. we don't know much about the paid chat, but manipulators and phonies, who are loved by God and are saved too, are comfortable with and attract other manipulators and phonies. witchcraft of the soulish genre is at home with the same. lies are darkness and the darkness hates and repudiates light. God isn't worried. but apparently some of them are. why? if nothing is 'out of order' and if it's all *honest, what's to worry? they think healthy anger is the lashing out kind they themselves must do. also carman and his mom or whoever can keep tabs on people and control content and input and make money on the side. is it possible to find out from any governing or watch organization or tax info, just how much that ministry makes from the tax free paid memberships? how many people sign up. some of them are innocent though and want to see Gospel oriented music and unusual concerts that help kids go forward. what's the fly in the ointment? the carman worship? the sexually charged co dependency stuff. the 'anger levels' are sexual behavior. baloney. they probably don't come "here" because they can be a part of myspace now and get their daily dose of "carma" and his mom too with an interesting bevy of beauties and the juice that makes carman glow like a lightening bug. and anything else that makes them feel *special *powerful and *included and *heard. only if they pay though. and try to visit him at home girls. lol he is your real friend. maybe beyonce will sing with him on his new album. "carman's miami nights". | ||
| baloney Junior Member Username: baloney Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 64.134.5.42 |
carman doesn't care about them, not really and he has to "get" something out of the giving. LORD MICHIGAN deliver us from nonsense! how can you say such an evil thing@! EEEEGAD@! What?!!! GAG. getting something from them???!!!! he ***loves*** those women and they are truly ministered to. one of those things might be true, sometimes. of course they are truly special. no really, they are to God, to their families etc. they "wish" they were special to carman. for the right and real reason. now this is getting boring. really boring. to think about and to write. (hi quillia) do you think they have read chapter 6 in First Co and take it as seriously as they do cwo? hmmmm? carman's words or Jesus and the New Testament. hard choice. but if no money and no baloney, he doesn't have the time or interest. they don't know that though. (or don't want to) and their use of carman and 'his demand' to be seen and treated as special (cause his background was so incredibly shaming and painful and apparently extremely degrading in reality), so they can feel "touched by the mister", ( not the Master)is kind of like a cult and not exactly mentally square. yes, carman's tribe or jan's followers do at times curse. sick spiritually and sin. we guess it's a sin to expose things about randy white too. and it has to be malice and evil, but he should just be forgiven and no worries, jan will buy him a church in malibu and she and pam can have a you know what t-shirt contest. Who do you think carman will vote for? girls 'cursing someone' for saying those things? carman and tbn staff or "believers" (in them more than Jesus)praying curses? well, of course "Jesus" strictly forbids that. but who cares about Jesus when you can have a fantasy relationship with and pretend you are loving and "are loved" by Christian celebs. why should anyone care about randy white's lies and life style? we should not talk about abuses and compromises openly as a healthy system. and it's really healthy to curse and refuse accountability and pay for time with carman and his mom. do these girls have a life? maybe they should pay to go on a missions trip, or start a homebusiness and support missionaries if homebound. at least pay for three other interactive ministry relationships, for balance. are there any other 'pay for time' with the amazing but then sadly pitied celebs turned TV host and high interest of focus of jan? STOP picking on jan. don't touch God's anointed. we are anointed too, so who is God going to defend and protect? He's not confused. and they THE TRIBE should not touch tbn with things like compromised celebs and misusing the Anointing and at the same time - pretend 'there is no' molestor who sneaks into the kids bedroom at night and harms them. that would be messy ugly and upsetting.hard responsibility and not entertaining. shattering to a fantasy life. and beyonce is not perpetrating anyone, she's just young hott and succesful maybe a little too worldy and don't forget 'bootyliscious'. could be if you all pray hard enough, that she would help carman make his buns plump, rise and flex to new levels of steely youthful hardness... if only they could work out together on a tour bus or in a gym. let's call jan and see if she can make it happen. | ||
| baloney Junior Member Username: baloney Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 64.134.5.42 |
in compassion and with care we say; this make-believe, denial based, false self stuff starts in our homes and bleeds into our ministry and public lives. it comes out of selfishness, cyclical patterns of abuses and denial, fear, control and sometimes deep injury. but-sssshhhh. no one talk about it. that's not loving. that's evil and angry and mean. baloney. if jan is not responsible for beyonce being endorsed then, our apologies. but she is the program director and carman is following her, right? is she another "queen" that is not his wife that he is submitting to and loyal to? what is he "getting" out his relationship with tbn and them? she's the boss or Jesus? real ques. baloney?!? we like your posts too zebra. the girls don't like you though. good news!! it probably means you actually worship God and aren't dizzy with imagination. it probably means you like truthfulness and normalcy. the cult in the Kingdom doesn't like those who refuse membership and group psychology. you are the sick and off one. why don't you just leave them alone!!! so they can be in la la la land. are you allowed to post in tongues in the chat?  that would be weird to write in tongues. you probably couldn't do it, without a supernatural dispensation. momma nancy would be the only one allowed to interpret.  you have to make a connection and then pray like quillia suggested in humility and graciousness, that carlton is a real cult leader, ego maniac and truth twister attention getter and new age and controller and celeb...he was carman's "best closest friend" for years and his "pastor". *could be that carman has made a clean break, and while not hating carlton, has separated truly. but the personality and the spirituality was always there. does that concern carman and the people who authentically pray for him? why were they 'so' close and so involved? we are being loved right now, can you feel the love zebra? you post more often too. you are one of the only posters who are "with it". let us know if you join the chat family, and keep the world posted on what is happening in the clandestine world of cwo. how much does it cost? (Message edited by baloney on September 27, 2007) | ||
| baloney Junior Member Username: baloney Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 64.134.5.42 |
too much. spiritually? psychologically? doctrinally? baloney? let's rephrase that other last statement. you join the chat, or have covert ops join and keep the "Body" posted on what happens in the clandestine, highly controlled, italian, arrogant, spin world of a huge man, his mom (queen perhaps) and numbers of broken, lonely girls and sincere folks alike, celeb wannabees and on the make chics, in the "zone" of pay for their view, cwo. if we can stand the baloney. | ||
| zebra Intermediate Member Username: zebra Post Number: 284 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 172.191.15.80 |
Baloney: You stated in your above post # 25 the following: "they probably don't come "here" because they can be a part of myspace now and get their daily dose of "carma" and his mom too with an interesting bevy of beauties and the juice that makes carman glow like a lightening bug. and anything else that makes them feel *special *powerful and *included and *heard." First of all, in their minds they can never get enough of their Chief. Secondly, I must inform you that they do come to Factnet and often. They are very much upset by what they read on Factnet. This is one of the reasons several of them wrote to Factnet some time ago stating they wanted Factnet to shut down and they were praying that such happened. Even V. was included in that group. Several are upset with C concerning his Myspace site. They become jealous when other girls write and post things on his site. Some have sent some revealing pictures while others have said some wild things to him and this really upsets the members of the paid-site. I'm not sure why, perhaps it's their denial that C isn't as perfect as they would like him to be. Or perhaps they are jealous and do not wish to share their man with outsiders. Or perhaps they are a bit too overweight to send in their own pictures to his site. Yet, they continue to pay their $19.95, or whatever it is now. You should see the petition they came up with to try and get C to come to the paid-chat site more often. It is pathetic. Again, I must compliment you on you writing. It has a certain "style" about it. Or perhaps, it's the truth that's contained in its message. I couldn't have said it better myself. (smile) Please continue to post. Zebra} | ||
| rachelengland Senior Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 2863 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 38.119.107.74 |
ahhhh....it doesn't get any better than this does it (lol) I think you all give Carmen exactly what his pocket book wants-bad publicity, the more you talk the guy UP or shall I say DOWN. the more attention his joke of ministry receives..crazy but true. | ||
| saygoodnightgracie Intermediate Member Username: saygoodnightgracie Post Number: 322 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 72.64.222.20 |
Why do you say his ministry is a joke? | ||
| rachelengland Senior Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 2919 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 76.112.72.225 |
Actually, that was an incorrect statement(2 months ago) I know it happens from time to time.. I have changed my views.. CARMEN IS FANTASTIC!!! The Holidays have softened my hardened heart-a scrooge no more..just love for all the saints! | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 1881 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Stop it! Stop it! You're killing me!  | ||
| rachelengland Senior Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 2921 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 76.112.72.225 |
I thought you would enjoy that!!!! I'm still laughing Happy Thanksgiving and I will be dreaming of Carmen as I watch that hunk of a man Brett Farve take Detroit down one more time-much to the shame of all my male relatives...R | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 1882 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Go Packers!! I grew up a Colts fan in the 60s and roundly despised the Packers until the realignment (and they were so bad for so long - as were the Colts). But when Atlanta traded Farve (whom I had been familiar with when he was at Southern Miss terrorizing SEC defenses whenever they had the misfortune to have scheduled them for a non-conference game) I knew he was going to be great and started rooting for the Packers again. Plus, Bart Starr was always a truly class guy. The Packers are the one NFC team besides the Falcons that I take pleasure in their winning. The Falcons being so bad this year - I'm rooting for the Colts tomorrow night! | ||
| rachelengland Senior Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 2923 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 76.112.72.225 |
MCM, Your my kind of guy..you know the song "Hide the Beer the Pastor's Here", you enjoy rootbeer and you like the Colts...Who could not love that adorable Patton Manning... I still don't understand the whole game after all these years- I just pick the teams I like by the "charmingness" of the quarterback-and usually they win the superbowl...LOL | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 1883 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Gotta love the Swirling Eddies. I think if more charismaniacs would listen to DA and the Eddies they might not get taken in by all these gospel perverters and scripture twisters. A health dose of incredulity and honest skepticism can go a long way in protecting one against hucksters, charlatans and con men ("what was that, Lord? Be wise as a what?"). As for football, how do you feel about Tom Brady: the second coming; or the Anti-Christ? (Message edited by MCMStaff78 on November 21, 2007) | ||
| rachelengland Senior Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 2924 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 76.112.72.225 |
Daniel Amos was Christian music at it's best, I use to go to Cornerstone as a teenager-there were lots of incredible bands with real messages back then (now it's all this Praise stuff) in the 80's... As far as MR BRADY goes....I said to someone the other day..somethings is just not right here..How can a man be so gorgeous, talented and loved by all..where is the scandal besides impregnating beautiful women(nothing by todays standards)... I just don't know MCM-he is just to darn perfect(after CARMEN of course)... I watched them kill the Bills on Sunday-I think that coach is cheating again.. | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 1884 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Rachel, you definitely made the connection. Brady is the Carman of quarterbacks. Honestly, I lean toward the anti-christ option, but I don't know if it's my intense dislike for the Pats coming through (Gracie will like that). |
