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     out_ofthe_heart New member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
New Loathe, My words can apply to myself, but not all of them because they aren't the truth about me. Why do you feel the need to involve yourself in this? Are you just bored? Is someone using you as their go between? Is your presence one of hate or one of love? No I don't think I am a phony. Are you one? Is Carman? Was your husband? God did not tell you that I am a phony or that I am any of those posters. Do you think that Charles was lying about the large sum of money and the blessings that God gave to him? Do you honestly think that unCharmed is the same person that is a big stretch. Do you think that EMS was right about some things? I absolutely do. Do you think I want to have a big ministry with my own jet and minister to the masses? Give initials and let me know who you with your demonic darts that can use you because of hate and self righteousness and the rejection you went through you are accusing me of being next. You won't accuse and attack me enough to retreat and to go away just because you hate what others have said that you can't see and because of what you really feel about your husband. Do you think that people who respect a certain life style can have the same feelings about the same things? God did not tell you to say any one of the things to me you tried to and He is not directing or anointing you to post the way you are posting. But hey that doesn't stop most of you and sometimes even your lord, Carman. | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
You said that Charles posted about angels to draw attention to himself? Then why didn't he keep coming to FN and why did he put himself on the line? His posts are self less and Spirit led dear. The anointed messages there encouraged me to seek the Face of the Lord more and the scriptures on angels built me up I didn't know a lot of those. Look you said: ".........you are using the idea of ..... to PROMOTE YOURSELF. Your motives are as some others have attempted to get you to realize, 4 U. Do you ever ask the Lord if YOU are sinning? If you cannot refrain from imposing YOUR AGENDA on someone who feels you are OFF and VIOLENT, then you are a true SPIRITUAL PERPETRATOR. Honestly, you are BLIND to yourself and your own character. APPLY YOUR OWN WORDS TO YOURSELF." That is the exact and complete truth about YOU NEW LOATHER. EXACT. That is what you are doing raccoon breath. Uncharmed? What is your "familiar guide spirit" telling you about her? I hope she married her boyfriend and that they kept their purity until the wedding. She had her email up did you ever take the time from all of your apparent free time to write to her and tell her what you think or ask her if she was being honest? No you LIKE THE POWER AND THE ATTENTION IN ACCUSING. You can accuse me a lot I enjoy that and thank you. I will just pray and receive. | ||
| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 398 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
AH did you just ask another poster to come out from behind their FN name???? Does this also remind you of me asking you to do the same thing??? When you stated above and I'll even paste it here so you can read it again: Give initials and let me know who you with your demonic darts that can use you because of hate and self righteousness and the rejection you went through you are accusing me of being next. Then you knock my Mother, and child along with myself to even my husband here, and you don't even know us. Then you accuse another person here and I quote, and paste again: No you LIKE THE POWER AND THE ATTENTION IN ACCUSING. Isn't that calling the Kettle black, and a double standard?? You attack others here and use differant names yourself, and feel like you are justified to do so. Are you the Judge who sits on the very throne? Why then can't you give the Christian thankyou for putting you down just like you told me to do. When you put my family down by saying they have a darkness in their eyes? You told me to say thanks, and here you are not doing the same thing??? Again the double standard. If there are so many who are tring to get through to you. Then it is them along with myself who needs to keep you in our prayers to recieve the healing from the anger. Wingsy | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
Wingsaglow, There is nothing wrong with women in full clothes sitting in a large bathroom with a seat area fellowshipping. I didn't say using the facilities in front of each other. That would be a little sick and super gross. What is sick is the way you don't see anything about your self or your own family spiritually. That is your job plus the right nutrients for your girl and your husband. When you talk about your own repentence and your own faults with a major and minor chord of truth and a arppegio of humbleness then you can speak AT me again. HFL, Can you PAHLEEEEESE, STOP USING THE NAME OF Jesus and God the Almighty to make your curb kissing points you cult member ding dong. Oh boy, you NOT A PROPHET. I am doing a study on that subject this month because of my own prejudice and unbelief from the past and you are not a prophet in any possible way dear. You are a delusional person who has a void that you are filling up by lying and hating. YOU HAD BETTER DO A STUDY ON WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT SELF ANOINTED PROPHETS AND FALSE ONES. If you can't find or see the breach in Carman's walls then you are not a Prophet. Do you have a real job anywere or do you just sit at home like a creepy person who does have any outside life? It is real obvious that you do not hear from God but you put scripture ideas together like a floral arrangement to make your platform "look" pretty. You are so evil toward other people and you group them all together like an Arab terrorist person would put all the reporters they hate up against a wall and then shoot them. You are so prejudiced and unbalanced and insulting in a dark way not a fun way. You are so mentally messed up that you malign other WITH THE WORD OF GOD. Are you one of those Carman worshipping people who have no pastor and who think they are alive to rule the world? Julia, Carman is not an Apostle. You don't even know what that means. Also you should read some of the words he has spoken about himself and how he defines himself. He has said that he is not a leader but that he prepares the way for them and that he is a singer who prepares hearts to come to God. I can see if he was being called a real Evangelist, but you are like these other ninnys exalting him into something that would give his ego Red Bull instead of something like vegetable juice. Have you road the Ghan and gone to Kathryn Gorge? You are not an expert and you don't even have a church or pastor, you are not going know what an apostle is. If you did you notice what HFL is and say something about her knivings. Carle, Do you think that Christians should treat each other in such the way that you are talking and thinking about Nunu? I can think of at least seven different scriptures that make your attitude and you unkind clikkish words a SIN. I don't think there is anyone here who cares about SIN ABOUT THEMESELVES but you are so quick to say someone is sinning if they don't like the GREAT AND ALL PERFECT CARMAN. I was praying about joining the Chat room to be fair and to see for myself but if it is anything like what you are saying, thanks but NO THANKS. Plus I don't want to pay for Carman's manicures or shopping in Beverly Hills. Zebra and Franklin, I can agree with some of the things you say and that would go for Mercy 4 and a couple of other people too. You all have integrity and reality. Zebra you sound like a minister and Franklin sounds like person who is not willing to be hoodwinked. Mercy 4 yu sound like you are trying to be close to God on these issues and to be in reality too. | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
Can you PAHLEEEEEESE get OFF the name thing. New Loaf is saying that I am in New York and that I am a Chaplain and a virgin who is in some ocean program all at the same time. That is laughable. Which is good because it is good for the soul. Yu all make me laugh a lot. You and Suzanne Carista are the only people who have ever given their real names out. She did for attention and so did you. I don't know ANY CHRISTIANS and my church is AWESOME where they think and behave like complete ego heads like you. You ask people for donations without serving them. Are you so defensive that your breath smells like a compost pile? You are "NICE" until someone tells you something that is spiritually true about you and then you are a mess. The Holy Spirit knows you. He is the one who gives discernment. Ask for some like I did. It would bring deliverance not condemnation if you had a less EGO HEAD AND PRIDE HEAD RESPONSE dilly. | ||
| julia Member Username: julia Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 124.176.183.118 |
Outoftheheart I beleieve I do know what an apostle is, an apostle is one sent by God. Doooonnnn't be tellin me I don't know what I am talking about phaleeeeeese. I don't spend all my time running people down like you, I don't spend my time looking into their private lives like you either. I would rather spend my time in the Word. Really outoftheheart you have got such an arrogant attitude and you have a tendency to speak down your nose at people, how could anyone ever take you seriously??? You are a clown dressed up as a Christian! Rude and distasteful person. (Message edited by julia on June 19, 2006) | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 39 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
No Julia dear it means much more than that. And Apostles have greater authority than Pastors just like you "think" you have for some VERY STRANGE ODD AND OFF REASON. Do you have Christian Book Sellers in the Outback? Yu might want to stop trusting in yourself and trust in those who are greater, smarter, more learned and wiser than you and who have an anointing too. Yu YES YU are rude and distasteful Junky Julia and you are ONCE AGAIN MAKING ME SOUND LIKE YOU. BUY A MIRROR PAHLEEEEESE!!! The arrogance and distaste are the way you have spoken and it is a way to give you a taste of your own rude medicine. Don't yu remember what you say? Are you having an alcoholic black out or something? Go back and do some reading of your words if you can read and there isn't someone from your probation program reading this to you. It is OK for yu to say things the way you wish but when it is put back to you then it is something AWFUL. Get a grip and get rid of your gripe. Oh and Gugglias "YU "DON'T" KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT"! Can't hang out here all night with you because my life is not wrapped around FN or Carman. Don't be afraid and don't feel too lonely because Wingsapanake will be here in no time and you can say what you "Great Vessels of Love" always say. She doesn't have anything else to do either I suppose. | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
I am a clown. That would be good for most people. Joy and laughter and skits with skills. Thank you so very much. If I am clown and you are an apostle what does that make Wingsasmirk? It is OK for you to blot someone out all of sudden and insult them while they are supposedly disappearing under your wishes or hypocrisy. But then once again Jumbled Thoughts Julia you are preaching Galatians and Corinthians. It is not enough to know the wonderful scriptures and to quote it like a water pistol Toe Jam Julia. You have to be an example of it. You and Wingsaffended defend yourselves and make fun of others and you are TOTALLY ARROGANT, you revile when you are reviled and you lie and you resist genuine truth while you go on about quoting God and His truths like they are your own words. KOO KOO KOO KOO We won't even get going on HFL who is so VERY STRANGE and is now more strange than before because people have been encouraging her delusionary world and believing her even though it is very evident she is really a false prophet. This is what all of you make me feel like doing: ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. | ||
| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 406 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
And now I know why, and who it is, and that they will cancel me off of the FN as soon as they read this, but it will already be here for all to see. When these threads die down. There is always some one who comes back in to get it all going again, and there is a reason why. It brings in more money from sponsors when the threads are so busy. Now check out who it is that keeps on changing their names, because they are using the money to fund their one world religian by using Christians even to slaundering our families, because they have no morals or tsate at all. Read this and you be the judge of the real truth that was sent to me by a well known person. Wingsy Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, The information below is to inform you just in case you were not aware. There is a chance that you are indirectly supporting these other sites below if you financially support Factnet. However, even if you are not directly financing Factnet you could still be indirectly supporting them by helping to keep this site popular, therefore encouraging others to financially support through sponsorship or otherwise. This is not for those who are unbelievers of Christ. Nor is it intended to harm Mr. Wollersheim. He and others can freely serve whatever God they so choose. It is merely to inform those who belong to Christ, because they will be held accountable for their actions and need to be informed. Whatever they decide from this point on is between them and God, but at least they will have a choice. All the information below is public information. I know that Mr. Wollersheim will have no problem with this post, because he believes in "Freedom of Speech" and in warning people of things that may harm them... physically or spiritually. All of these sites, plus six more (that I know of) are owned by Lawrence D. Wollersheim who is the owner of Factnet, also known as "The Ghost." http://www.integrativespirituality.org/ http://whois.domaintools.com/Integrativespirituality.org Integrative Spirituality is a new type of open source religion... Our non profit spiritual organization is grounded in the New Integral Worldview... At Integrative Spirituality humankind's spiritual heritage includes both the western and eastern spiritualities as well as the emerging new form of spirituality called Evolutionary Spirituality... Integrative Spirituality is a spirituality that strives to re-integrate the spirituality and mysticism of both the East and West. To this end we often use different names for God; Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, etc... and/or Buddha or Buddhahood, Brahma, | ||
| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 407 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
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| wingsaglow Intermediate Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 408 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.213.134.134 |
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| mercy4 Intermediate Member Username: mercy4 Post Number: 247 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 209.222.250.125 |
Wingsy, for a long time I got the impression that this website was not run by someone who is a Christian, and now there's confirmation that he runs the globalist site. But that does not discount all that has happened here, and I don't believe that most of the people here came because of who runs it. There might be some posters doing that, but that's not the main reason why this has happened. I believe, as said before, that God has been trying to get Carman's attention to get some important changes made. Outoftheheart, even though I wouldn't use the negative approach you have, and we have been at odds with each other on that, the nice comments you made about me in the other thread were appreciated. And what truth you have to say, minus the insults to people, can be discerning and of the Lord. It would be appreciated if you would please add more love from the Lord to your posts. | ||
| julia Member Username: julia Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.195.64 |
Hey outofthebutt I haven't got toe jam, but if you want I will grow some especially for you, for the time when you are gonna kiss my feet! | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Junior Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
The reason I chose out_of_the_heart is because I used to sit quietly in life and judge everybody and not tell them what I thought. I kept my feelings and beliefs to myself and thought that some Christians were WAY OUT THERE IN SPACE. I even thought they were listening to demons when they said it was God. When it was God. I have repented and I have a real new life not like the angry, weird other new life. People can be very rude and insulting on most blogs. It is kinda of a way of speaking when you get T.O. at someone who is being a bullheaded jerk with an two ton chip on their shoulder. So I know that my words are not purely Christian and I am not the best Christian in FN or my church or my neighborhood. Something that is good though is that I more honest and don't fester in my opinions behind the backs of people that I believe are wrong. You all ACT LIKE PRIM AND PROPER CHRISTIANS and it is a bunch of hoopla. When you get mad or you don't like something yu are insulting and you reject others and you call names and you label people as the devil's own. PAHLEEEEEESE!!!!!!!!! MAYBE THAT IS WHY GOD IS USING FACTNET!?!? MAYBE HE WOULD LIKE HIS PEOPLE TO STOP LYING ABOUT THEMSELVES AND TO STOP THE HATE AND THE FALSE LEADING. MAYBE HE WOULD CARMAN TO BE MORE LIKE HIM THAN TO JUST PREACH ABOUT HIM IN HIGH TECH. | ||
| julia Intermediate Member Username: julia Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 124.180.134.68 |
So you STILL don't tell people what you think because you are doing it under false pretences,in here, under a false name. How is that walking in the light? Also, no wonder you always have go's at people's past, it seems you are still living in that time in your attitude. Otherwise you wouldn't associate your name of today to that of a past state. | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
Julia, Yu deny being inappropriate or sexed up then what is this? julia Junior Member Username: julia Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.147.212 Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 3:21 am: I think everyone on the beach should take their tops off too! Especially if they got the boobies to show! There are many really nice and antique statues of vituous women who haven't got tops on and lets face it the clothing of the virtuous woman is strenghth and dignity, not cover from head to toe! | ||
| out_ofthe_heart Member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 58 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
Julia, Yu deny being inappropriate or sexed up then what is this? julia Junior Member Username: julia Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.147.212 Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 3:21 am: I think everyone on the beach should take their tops off too! Especially if they got the boobies to show! There are many really nice and antique statues of vituous women who haven't got tops on and lets face it the clothing of the virtuous woman is strenghth and dignity, not cover from head to toe! | ||
| julia Intermediate Member Username: julia Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.209.238 |
Well I wasn't gonna post here anymore because this place is of the devil because the people who run it don't mind homosexuality in the church and it's okay to be buddist and hindu and the whole lot together. I posted this time because I don't like to live under rules and some of the stuff posted here of late has got me a little Godly anger. So I don't want to support this place even by frequenting it. Just want to share some little thoughts. I was just reflecting on Mary Magdalene and wondering how her life was. She had five husbands, either she was running back and forth on the sly, perhaps none of them could satisfy her desires, you know none of them DID IT for her! Or maybe she had one with oil wells and plenty of camels but he was a whimp, so she left him. The next one dropped dead in a heated night session with her, the third one found out about number two and got scared so took off with the kids, the fourth one had really bad B O even though he kept the law, he had no respect from his children. The fifth one didn't treat her too well and outof the lot none of them had love, she couldn't find any love in the town, plenty of men but no love, sex, but no love. When she met Jesus there was no other man like Him because He had Love and she never found anyone else like Him to be with so she took off to France and ministered and forgot about men. Weird? Radical? Extreme? Perhaps I have paited her as a girl scout here and she was in fact worse we don't know. The bible is full of weirdo's and sinners made whole and Holy. I can't recall where the post is that says Carman is blaspheming because he said John the Baptist is peculiar, the bible says the royal priesthood is a peculiar people and peculiar is weird and sometimes goofy and dopey and all that. Jesus He was a leader of a gang of fishermen so what is wrong with relating the story to today's culture David Monsoon? It was the religious of Jesus day that crucified Him because He didn't live up to their expectations, they were expecting a well to do man full of the law and religious custom, Jesus, instead hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors (equivalent to todays gangster). Jesus took all our sin on the cross, He became as guilty as the prostitute, as guilty as the murderer , and as He became that sin He never knew He set us free and made us clean! He didn't judge, He came to find that which was lost, He came to find me, and you, if you have ears to hear and the heart to receive! This is not, in my opinion, a place for kids tobe getting ministered to, nor for Christians to get ministered to. This is a place for people who want to fight and carry on like sinners in the dark, and still pretend they are Christians, perhaps someone here is getting some value out of the discussions taking place here and if so good, don't mean the place is any more Holier, one can get ministered to in a back alley, sure, God don't have any boundaries! He does, however want us to stay clean,to Love Him with all we got and one another as our own self, wow what a high call, anyone doing this??? I mean really doing this? Anyone avoiding dissentions and keeping the mind pure? And humble? Hmmmm to love your neighbour as yourself would mean you got to treat them like you treat you, have I got a witness??? | ||
| julia Intermediate Member Username: julia Post Number: 105 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.165.40.118 |
i can just imagine how Mary would of felt. She was used and abused all her life, probably, you know she couldn't out and get water when all the "good ladies" went out in the morning, she was hated by them, they would call her a whore and scumbag but she was looking for meaning in life and she didn't care what people called her, she even got good at ducking because they would aim their spit at her. i wonder if the five husbands were all at once, can you imagine? She would of had to get wigs out and different clothes and plenty of perfume to disguise the smell of the others, it's easier to think they were one after the other, then she would of known whose the baby was when she got pregnant. And it would of been easier to keep clean. Still the pharisees wouldn't let her forget it, they would remind her when she was with this one and they would crack jokes about her. Church wouldn't have her because she had a bad reputation and the book of Timothy says not to have anyone minister with a bad rep. Alsoit says if a woman is under 60 she should get married or don't let her in the church. The apostles, they were even a little jealous, we know this by the way Judas re-acted to her anointing the feet of Jesus, plus she was Samaritan and some of the apostles, they still had problems with them. They had a go at Jesus for talking to her at the well. She stayed faithful at the cross and when she saw Jesus and that He had risen, she didn't want to let go of Him, once she realised it was Him, she loved Him with a Love which is out of this world. Better than any material goods she had known and more precious than any black oil in the world, better than any man she had known, she just wanted Him to stay with her, but He had to move on, I'm sure His Love still held her, even when He had risen to the Father, she was not alone, still she went through a lot of heartache to realise this, but the Holy Spirit purified her and set His seal on her and comforted and encouraged her, gave her new meaning and new life, gave her to drink from His Holy water which satifies and trasforms. Gave Her His Love and a new name. | ||
| no_no New member Username: no_no Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.130.100.144 |
New Life, I can understand your emphasis questionable ethic. You outline some points of interest in old posts and people. However your spirit just seems so mean spirited and unchristian. Why do you care about this so much to hate your brothers and sisters in the Lord? Can you open up and provide transparent information on who you are for instance? Is it what people have to say that is so provoking to you? Aren't you supposed to love and to forgive instead of what you attempting to do which is make others look bad in some way? What does it prove if a man wrote creatively in a way, that I can't for instance or lived in Hawaii which I wish that I could, and made points without being a real personna? You can make points but what is the point under the point making? It would seem that you would be more serving of the Lord to go after the hardness and condemnation and the continued false authoratative thrusts of HopeFaithLove. Why does it appear that Hawaii is such a disclaimer deal on this site? Is it of any virtue or real and godly consequence if someone is from there or resides there? The focus doesn't make much sense. Psuedonyms are typical in cyberspace and when discussing cults or abusive leaders. Why would you spend your valuable time and the passions that God gives to all of us to serve Him, on something this wasteful? You can get IP's from completely different locals than where you are located, both for free and at a subscription cost. I don't have those services and don't have anything really controversial to say so I am not concerned etc.I have never met Carman directly but do know some people who know him and I have worked at several of his concerts. Why do you all hate other Christians so much. Then it seems that you try to justify your wrong behavior and your sin, by saying they aren't real Christians to begin with. Don't you insult the Lord by doing this? Do you believe that what you think is the whole truth or absolute truth? Do the women who are in the small group of arguers believe that their view is the only right view? Do you think that the way HopeFaithLove uses the sacred scripture to condemn and to destroy others is worse than psuedonyms? What do you determine is right or wrong about the myspace information that revealed compromises and then was taken off when exposed? Is that worse than what you seem to be angry over? I don't think you are being a blessing to one another and most assuredly not to the Lord himself. If you were reassuring one another and calmly debating points or principles then that would be more like Jesus desires. Would Carman be happy with people hating and cursing and accusing in the guise of defending his future ministry? More than that, is God happy with your (our) heart and your (our) words both the public words and the private ones included? Did something happen to you in Hawaii such as you were promised a honeymoon and never received it there? Did someone hurt you from there or in that area? You are very angry about Hawaii and Catholic people from what your posts seem to disclose. Is there something else that you might do here that would bless others and bless the Lord? My attitude towards you is not argumentative by the way. You are so angry and it really doesn't feel or sound like the fruit of the Spirit. If you are right about some of the ideas you have, what difference would that make and to whom? |
