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out_ofthe_heart
New member
Username: out_ofthe_heart
Post Number: 16
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 24.8.121.95
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 8:06 pm: | 
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Look Wings you said this stuff:
"As for Vada she is my friend, and yes she is dire need of serious prayer, but her condition will never be mentioned here by me, because there are those who still are used be the serpant that would love nothing more than to trash her just like they have done my husband and his health, and there in shows that the love of the Father is not in them at all.
Blessings Julia I don't know you either, but would rather fellowship with you anyday, than these others with venom in their tongues."
Look:
You always say how you don't judge anyone and how perfect Vada and Carman are and you fellowship with people who have wordliness and rage. Who do you think you are dear to say that the love of the Father is not in people just because they catch you in lies? Or that people are out to hurt you using your husband. Are you a Narssist or what? You are not allowed to use your husband being sick to turn the minds of His daughters and sons for your own attention. Don' t you have a Pastor and other friends and family? Why would you take the people who are discussing Carman to make something for yourself dear?
So if Vada said that everyone at FN is of the enemy she is doing the same thing. No wonder you like her. It isn't true and if you are critical of the Crouches or Carman then you are automatically stamped with the accusation that you are of the devil. That isn't mentally well or spiritually correct. And it is very mean and of devilish charcteristic in and of itself. Do these people apply the Bible to themselves at all except for prosperity and power doctrine?
You show your true color spiritually by saying you would rather fellowship with Julia than anyone. You bear false witness by calling some things venom. From what a lot of the people who have argued with you have said by the way, say that Carman has says at different times, he has venom on his tongue. You are all victims and COMPLETELY INNOCENT?
Does Carman have a new dective that is obeying him or being paid with by donations for the Gospels Sake and who is sent to do the dirty work of any murder in his heart?
What does he think about when he reads these? Why does he have someone read them for him according to the other people who know him? That isn't brave or honest or trusting in God. People call him a baby or a coward and is that true or not?
Oh boy, I can really see Carman drapped over the altar some night asking God if he has any murder in heart or words. Doesn't the Bible say to pay attention to your own heart or motives and beliefs and to act in love? So that is venom dear?
Why don't you help Julia find a good church and cease being her own leader. Just because she quotes things or speaks swelling words about how we should all live and she doesn't keep those words her self, means you should be very limited in your acceptance of her spirit. Is it venome for you to accuse me of being something that you hate from other people who see your real colors regardless of how many cutesy things you put up on your website. It's like that old admonition about not trusting someone who gives too many compliments because you give too many cutesy things and act like you don't have a mean corpuscle in your perfect body. Why do infirmity spirits hit people from you sometimes? What sin are you in that this comes forth?
Why did you lie about the biker guy, who turned out to be your brother? Please be more humble and more honest and tell your friend Julia to submit herself to a good church and learn more before she trys to rule the US from New Zealand. Can you be more honest about yourself for the first time in your life! |
wingsaglow
Intermediate Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 386
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.213.134.134
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 8:50 pm: |
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I am not perfect like you are saying here, and nor have I ever said that Vada, and Carman are perfect either. Agaian you are trying to put me down with your own lies, and accusations, and the biker that you are speaking of is not my brother who is on my website at all. Again you are so way off in left field in regards to me.Nor has Vada ever said anything bad to me about the FN again wrong my dear, and as for friends I have so many friends too many to count, and yes even many who are here on the FN that emails me in private, and they agree with me my dear. That when you spew out so many lies about me it only again proves that you are still trying to find anything that you can slander me on to even Vada, and Carman. I have never judged you or anyone else, but again my dear I will say it over again.
If you know so much bad stuff about this ministry instead of spewing it all out here why not take it to the Lord in prayer???
Or do you live for gossiping about others because your life isn't as exiting as others????
As for my brother he is my best friend, but he doesn't live in the south like the other guy does, and that other guy is the coolest brother, but he isn't related to me by blood at all.
I do pray that you will keep on fishing, but in God's lake of life, and not in other's jelly bean fish ponds.
Wingsy |
out_ofthe_heart
New member
Username: out_ofthe_heart
Post Number: 19
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 24.8.121.95
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:23 pm: |
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Wingsaglow,
Other posts say that she said that. You have said it too.
You have what like five people you are emailing with? So what you are all doing is not gossip but what I am doing is? Sounds like you dear. Ever notice the kind of people you are "fellowshipping" with? And you talk behind everyone's back and make jokes but you are the godly entertainer who needs all of our attention. If you have so many friends, why do live for this website and why are you so not just self centered but Carman centered? If yu are so "Christian" why did you and husband take the guy to court who took off on a business deal with your recording studio? The Bible says specifically to let him rob you, and let God reward you. You never gossiped or talked about the garbage in his yards?
You had the exact same IPs at the exact moment in time. If it isn't your brother then it is someone you know through bikers. You are still lying and I am not spreading any lies that is a lie. So Vada never said anything negative or superstitious or condemning about FN EVER? Or just recently? If she doesn't correct Carman's life-style then she is not being a real Christian toward him either.
You said, "You have never judged anyone", oh boy are you a liar dear. And I am not "your dear" so you can say "my dear" all you want but sorry it will never be. I don't know so much bad stuff about the ministry and I did pray that is why I posted. You didn't say anything about admonishing Julia to go to church and become a member and to cease her controlling "insights" and her sarcasm. If you are a mom, a singer, a wife, plus a friend of 200 and since you are writing things for the Oprah show and all the New York appearances you brag about how in the name of bluegrass do you have time to monitor this webpage day and night. Jelly beans are very bad for you. They rot your teeth you know and they can cause cancer because of the intense sugar.
You have never judged anyone? You don't gossip? You don't know who the biker was?
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol.
Email all of your friends from FN that are talking behind the backs of others and tell them how take someone to court and how to change your last name because you want to make a new start and look more important. Anyone who emails with you should be discerning and careful. Your talk does not match your walk. It's okay for you to gossip but not for anyone who takes a deeper look at Carman? So these people here are they like aquisitions for you ? Are you going to hit them up for money? Darlene, stop lying. In all the various ways that you lie. Good evening and may yu find some good toothpaste, my flamingo. |
wingsaglow
Intermediate Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 389
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.213.134.134
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:44 pm: |
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While you live behind your fake name because you do not have the Faith enough or even the guts enough to be real. If you were real you wouldn't have to hide behind a fake name. As for taking a guy to court wrong again we didn't go to court at all, but are in fact still friends with the guy. Again your gossip is still dripping with a serpant's tongue, and as for calling you dear. I only was repeating your same endearments to me in your post, but trust me there is nothing dear in your post at all.
My flamingo
And as for cancer you are again making a joke out of my husband's illness, and again you will stand before God. I do have a good idea though who you are now, and I want you to have the guts to email me in private if you want to talk to me without hiding behind your fake FN name. Until then don't even bother emailing messages to me here, because you are still hiding, and not real at all. If you were for real, and not fake. Then you wouldn't be hiding your real name at all. See I have nothing to hide from you or anyone else.
May God set you free.
Wingsy |
out_ofthe_heart
New member
Username: out_ofthe_heart
Post Number: 22
Registered: 4-2006
Posted From: 24.8.121.95
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:02 pm: |
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Darlene,
Who uses their real name on a blog. My real name is P. N. Butter. You have no idea who I am and why do you care? You are the one who spread your own name around.
I don't/wont't do anything on your terms. You sound like a tickef off neighbor down the street in hicksvillage daring me to come on down to your yard.
Why would you want me to email you in person? So you can have more control over me? So you can hide from everybody who or what you really are?
All you will do is argue and state the case for your perfectedness and just drain my life to get the attention on yours.
I am not making fun of your husbands cancer. You have no problem using it on this blogger page. If you are emailing so many peopele privately why bring it out here publically so you who have SO MANY FRIENDS AND SUCH A BIG POWERFUL CHURCH can get moreof everyone's thoughts turned toward you? Do want donations or contributions or something? Is the exchange going on between the few of you guys here healthy mentally and in the spirit? You said many months back that he was healed at a revival at your church and you also said that Vada was doing fine and that nothing was wrong with her.
You should be the one seeing those five threatening condemning fingers that are pointing back at you when you point that one at me twitty ditty. When you said: "you will stand before God". You are ripping people's hearts out and yet you say you have so many friends and such a huge church. You should be supported no doubt and I don't think there is anything funny about your husband's cancer or your fear and concern about that. You are listening to the serp"e"nt. Do you care about what your posts do or your private emails to people who are God's Property?
Do you get up in the morning and take proper care of your child and cover her emotionally because you stay up so late all of the time?
I have been free since the Blood of Jesus washed and cleansed me! I walk in the truth and the truth sets you free! |
wingsaglow
Intermediate Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 392
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.213.134.134
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:21 pm: |
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Again still hiding behind a fake name, and still telling more lies. I have never said this: You said many months back that he was healed at a revival at your church and you also said that Vada was doing fine and that nothing was wrong with her.
Where did you hear this gossip?
Again the serpant's tongue is very busy here tonight. With all of the gossip venom still druipping from the fangs, but the fangs are only hitting the breatplate of God who protects me.
The gossip of lies that are so far out there in left field. Don't you ever give up on trying to dig up more lies?
You see again that's only what Saton does is try to belittle others by spreading gossip, and your every post is filled full of dripping death in the tongue. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 195
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:18 pm: |
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BLURB. |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 504
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:47 am: |
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As for taking care of my child at least I have one to take care of, and am not a wanna be wife who still dreams of having some with Carman...
And my private life is none of your business at all, and here again you show that your nose is getting longer by sticking it in everyone elses life, because unlike us you still don't have one.
Also we are very supported by our church, and again stop talking about others lives, but learn to make one for yourself...
Also don't call me names (twitty ditty) it just shows your true mentality, and you do use a few fake names here, because you're afraid of being found out right?
keep being a fake, because you were never a friend. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 199
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:10 am: |
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You are right I was never your personal friend and we have never spoken outside of this website.
Find the newest pshychotic medications on the market and ask your doctor to help you get on them and stay on them. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 200
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:14 am: |
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And you are lying. You wish you could be Carman's wife and you are someone's wife while you are having an affair mentally and spiritually with Carman and his career. You act like his wife in the way you admire him and defend him but you don't even know him. Strange aren't you, duh?
You have no right to be speaking to anyone about him or to us about him. You are a big nobody in his life and God did not send you to him. No I am serious, you really don't. You are really an interloper and a busy body.
I have NEVER BEEN A CARMAN WIFE WANNA BE. You are the wanna be of a lot of things Winks.
Can we all feel the love?! Duh Tah Duh? |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 505
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:15 am: |
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Are you now answering for out_ofthe_heart?
And here I thought you were two different people ahh I see so now who needs their meds HMMM?
I also don't ever get personal with anyone but my husband, but thanks for the laugh. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 202
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:32 am: |
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I am not answering for anyone? What ARE you talking about now? You are so so so so weird. I am only responding to you right now or is your reading as inaccurate as your crazy spelling?
You are up in the middle of the night posting to "nobodies" such as me and my 400 split personalities too? Woww!!!! You know because that you are so happily married and such a wonderful mom and that is why you are always up at night in at least five websites? What is missing in your home life that you do this?
Your poor daughter must not have a mom who is emotionally available since you must sleep all day.
What you say about me, that is a laugh because you are so delusional. Really Winks, you are so so so so out of your mind on this one. I do feel sorry for you because you sound like people betray you a lot and that makes us all think why??? You do give me a lot of laughs but I feel its cruel towards you after awhile.
Try to say that I am some more people. Actually if I were going to as honest and accurate as you, I would have to admit to you that I am - Carman. Sorry that I have been fooling you this way and for so long.
Will you forgive me sweetie?
See if I as Carman critisize myself then you won't notice what is really going on and I can hide whatever I want. I can look like a gigantic victim too and get a lot of attention this way. Then twist you around my little finger so that you will brag about me and defend me and make it sound silly that I am even capable in the very very least of anything strange or wrong.
Will you marry me Winks? I missed the boat by not finding you in time and marrying you when the opportunity was there. When you were in Vancouver and wrote to me, my eyes should have been opened. I am sorry that I don't have much discernment. Thank you for saying that I am the spiritual father of your daughter it shows how inferior your current husband is to me and I like that my darling.
Your welcome for the laughs. |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 506
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:20 am: |
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Just read the above post as I was responding to them not you. I also have not bragged about Carman, nor are you him. I have stood up for Vada, and the ministry that she works for so please get it straight.
I also am an awesome Mother so don't insult me or try putting me down on your level, and I like a lot of people always stay up late so what big deal. Again it's also none of your business what time that I go to bed are you my Mother? I also am married to my best friend, and I still love Carman's music. My daughter is his avid fan and loves him, but it is to the man that I am married too that she loves as her real Dad.
A spiritual Father is a man with musical gifts that she looks up to, and for you to now even claim to be Carman is an insult. Not only to Carman, but to anyone else who has read your messages tearing the ministry appart with rotten gossip.
Carman would never tear his own ministry down with gossip and lies, and then to add Vada, and his own Mother with hurtful words???
That too would be really sick upstairs don't ya think?
I also am not the only one who has stood up for Vada here, and again please get it straight this time.
I do not know Carman or his Mother, but I do know Vada, and I love her as a dear friend.
As for marrying Carman please give me a break. I would have sang with him, because I love his music, but I'll leave the hopes of being his wife to you.
Is this the Godly man that you are going to marry then? also uncharmed I wrote to Vada not Carman again you are a busy body and messed up.
In every message you have torn down Vada, and I know 100% that Carman has more class than you. He respects Vada, and his Mother which is a lot more class than a liar.
You play too many games and it's really sad, because one of these days those games will end up coming back to bite you.
As you can see I am not laughing at you sick, and twisted games. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 206
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:29 am: |
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Hear about Sly Stallone and his boxing movie on the 700 Club?
What does Carman think? I mean what do I think duh!? |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 207
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:37 am: |
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You are getting fuzzier again and more nasty. Oops duh tah duh.
Don't you have anything nice to say? |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 208
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:42 am: |
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You claim to be God in many ways, why can't it be possible that I am Carman? Is that blasphemous or something? Duh!
I thought your husband was a musician and a producer? Why wouldn't your daughter look up to him? She has a father. Are you saying there is something better about Carman than your husband?
You didn't know who Vada was when you wrote to Carman. The false prophecy you gave him wasn't for Vada. Liar Liar your size 22 pants are on fire. |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 509
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:48 am: |
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Yes how about this. That you can't make up your mind which sex you really are. This was just posted by you on the next post:
Yes my fiance knows all about these posts where you talk about your Godly man.
(He is online reading them in Canada on an ice cutting ship at times when I am posting them. He is giving me his opinion and discernment. He has been in some very bad storms lately with 100 mile an hour winds, and this has given him something funny to look at. He would never listen to Carman's music its too juvenile.)
Ah yes and so Carman would still put down his gifts??
It would seem that you are mixed up being a woman one minute to a man the next??
Yes there really are meds that could help you, but maybe surgery should follow to help finish the job eh??
Oh and yes I do have a nice thing to say.
Congradulations on getting engaged to a man when you are one, or a woman GEESH!
No it isn't me getting fuzzier it's just trying to keep up with all of your bust my gutt laugjing post as a man one minute, and then a woman the next.
you really are mixed up, but this really is funny. Then you bring up the sex again in your post please is that all you think about?
I have never based my relationships on sex, but on friendship. If you can be best friends then the rest is just frosting on the cake.
Please remember that before you say your I dos or you might be in for a big let down (+: |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 209
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:49 am: |
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You know what Wings, that was too mean. I mean it. I will stop even if you are being rude and accusing me of any number of things.
I am not anyone that you have ever met. It doesn't matter what your pants size is and I forgive you for the things you are saying and thinking.
Its after 12:30 here and I wanted to watch the Rocky Balboa report on the 700 Club so I stayed up. It was very very interesting. He wrote this one to intentionally depict the aspects of Christ and to give a positive and Christian message. Woww that is something and so so so so unexpected. I have no idea if its clean so I can't say its all cool but I might go see it. I don't really care for boxing though its too brutal.
Hope that you are endued with power to love and to be real. Bridle your tongue Wings and circumsize your heart. I forgive you and your coherts for your accusations and your nasty intentions. Thats all I can do for now.
Stay calm, be more accurate and learn how to spell. |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 514
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:10 am: |
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I forgive you too if you also Bridle your tongue, and gossip uncharmed, and circumsize your heart. And if you stop acting like you are Carman.
So I can also say the same thing as you: Stay calm, be more accurate and I can spell when my eyes are not falling to my cheeks in sleep (+:
I just don't use the spell check when you all type so dog gone fast (+: |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 217
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:28 am: |
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It doesn't work when you say it.
I don't use spell check either.
Try staying off the internet after 9PM and before 10AM then your eyes will feel so so much better.
So your forgiveness is conditional and controlling?
Do I need your forgiveness for anything?
Since I am so young I can stay up longer and you can't. Well you shouldn't because you so so so can't handle the strain or the challenge.
How are your daughter and your husband? Are they sleeping right now while you are up saying rude things and accusin me and what will they do while you sleep the day away tomorrow, duh, I mean later today?
Is your daughter allowed to repeat words in your house? |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 519
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 4:41 am: |
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Here you go again and I will not e baited. I have always been a late nighter, and still up bright with the sun. My daughter is spoiled and cherished by a huge family.
My husband also is a late night sleeper so we both go to bed around the same time. All though he just went to bed now it's all good. He's my best friend and we don't hang off each other or mother each other.
When he used to sing on stage ther is no jeolousy at all. As a matter of fact I'd even sale the cds to all of the ladies (+:
It just goes with the territory, but many woman can't handle that kind of lifestyle. I can I've been raised in it.
As for saying rude things, not really just replying to yours that's all.
If you have to ask me "Do I need your forgiveness for anything?" Then you already know the answer to that question before you even asked. |
uncharmed
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 220
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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No you are rude all by your self and do it so so so well. Raised in what? You need to do some transformation work if this is how you think life should be lived.
Of course you tried to put your rudeness back on me and do more of your blame shifting. Try harder its really not working like you 'think' it is.
Why would you spoil your daughter? That isn't good for her and it isn't a godly way to raise her. I don't think you are telling the truth. I don't think he just went to bed now.
Who is talking about jealousy and singing on the stage? Something you don't want to believe about yourself there winks? Are you sending Carman a little check me out for a future wife hint by saying how you would sell tapes to the ladies?
You know Carman will never marry you right? I mean I don't want to be the one who bursts the love bubble in your imagination. He will never be the father of your daughter if your husband passes away right? Does he ever write your name in any of his sentences? Looks so so so much like a one way street. Or a Street Car Named Desire Winks.
Your husband doesn't act like your mother? Well that is so so good. You could call Vada and tell her to tell Nancy to not act like Carman's wife or him to not act like her husband in any way.
Is that too much of you being a busy body though?
This has been so so so so so so much fun I just really do not like going but I have to. So long Sweetie and love your husband not a single man who is someone elses.
Seek forgiveness from oxanna and repair the damage you have done. You could repent for your outburst of wrath and your rejection and hate too. |
wingsaglow
Advanced Member
Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 522
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 71.38.210.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:12 am: |
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And here you are as a woman again.
You are so wrong and again mixed up in what gender you are. So what will you be on your wedding night Carman or a woman?
Also I never even brought him up in that way. Again you assume too much that is so far in left field. Keep sewing uncharmed. I think you missed a stitch. |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 407
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:58 am: |
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uncharmed,
You wrote that you used to live in Tulsa. So my guess is Carman does know who you and your family are. I guess you grew up feeling important because you believed that you and your family were special because you had access to Carman. As Christians living in the midst of such a move of God that was happening through Carman's ministry that was making such headways not just in Christian music, but in the Body of Christ, you, along with others, developed a false sense of pride and power. This is sometimes what people feel who are from the same hometown as someone famous, because "outsiders" are impressed by you. It must be liken to feeling like you are "worshiped" to receive so much flattering attention that you feel special and more important than those who don't live and attend the same churches as Carman or attend the same restaurants or attend the same school he shot his videos in. I've witnessed where other people who had someone famous living in their town begin to resent the person because they drew so much fanfare. Not in the begiining, but over time they did. Maybe it began because the famous person didn't have time to stand and talk to them one day. So they started to resent the famous citizen, but, they had a Christian image to uphold, so they didn't want to appear petty and self-seeking because of having their pride wounded, so they resorted to fault-finding, and masked it with spiritual concerns and they would use whatever they could to bring up a complaint. The one that is handy is the added visitors to what their peaceful existance in town used to be or in Carman's case-- to their church. So they begin to grumble to whoever will listen. Until they find others like themselves and together this group begins to try and bully the person they once were also front and center to try and meet. Before long they have stirred up enough bitterness and resentment that they go public with their attack. Slandering him to anyone who will listen. As Christians they see any attempt the celebrity makes to defend themselves or put up buffers an insult to them. They rage, "Doesn't he know who I am!" You revealed this is true about you when you wrote that Carman wouldn't be anywhere without God's anointing and people's prayers.... You lifted yourself up and most likely your family's importance to God. Carman had no part in it. All that he accomplished was because of God and "godly" people like you and your family. Those who support Carman now in your mind is not godly! Therefore it can only be you and your family you see as godly who prayed and made Carman successful! You feel very important and therefore wherever you live you choose a major church to attend. You probably use your connections to Tulsa--- Carman, ORU, to get recognition. It is not just your family who grew to be this, but others like you who you boast are all in ministry. I do not doubt it. Your family found those who were like them, who had allowed Satan to plant destructive seeds in their heart (root of bitterness) and it continued to grow even after Carman hasn't lived in Tulsa for around ten years. You stated you haven't lived their since 2001, the year Carman's movie had a premier there. But this animosity toward Carman began long before this movie. For these people their lives revolved around Carman/God, for them it is inseparable. You go on about how full your life is, but the truth is you still need Carman to feel that fullness you once had.... that feeling of being "elite" and above others.
(Message edited by hope_faith_and_love on December 20, 2006)
(Message edited by hope_faith_and_love on December 20, 2006) |
hope_faith_and_love
Intermediate Member
Username: hope_faith_and_love
Post Number: 408
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 72.129.39.65
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uncharmed,
By your post above it would seem you are in the PST which is the time zone of Vancouver where your boyfriend lives. It is always so strange how you and others always "project" your wrong actions onto others. It is Christmas time and you are living with your future husband will be (completely moral n pure, no doubt), but should you really be questioning wings about her time spent here and accusing her of what you have, since it appears you would rather spend your time here talking about Carman? Shouldn't you be focusing your attention on your young boyfriend and living your lives to the fullest? It's Christmas time. Wings and her family are very close and are drawn in this like so many people have been for God's ultimate purpose.
You arrogantly boasted that you aren't going to make the mistake others have, but I have to wonder if you're not as interested in your boyfriend as you claim are... maybe this is a wakeup call for your boyfriend. Maybe you are incapable of loving him. And you are only using him because his family "impresses" you and he is therefore a good "catch".
I've always found it strange how a woman with family, as well as four young men could vacation in Hawaii and spend their vacations on the Internet talking about Carman. These are always the same people who accuse others of not having full lives. This is odd, but typical behavioral patterns of those like uncharmed.....
I do not like pointing these things out, because I sound malicious, but nevertheless, God wants this duplicity of Christians like uncharmed to be revealed so that He can make His people holy. |