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     arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 2117 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.37.10 |
aronald murray does not believe in hell. it does not exsist now but will burn up the sinners (kenites i suppose) at the end time what are your thoughts on this christian? | ||
| dondi Intermediate Member Username: dondi Post Number: 186 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.110.106.90 |
hell. it does not exsist now but will burn up the sinners Now c'mon arron. It doesnt exist now? Then what was Jesus talking about when He talked of hell? Hell has been around probably ever since lucifer himself fell from God's grace. Most of the time I side with you but on this I cannot. Hell exist now and has in the past. Were else would those who have rejected God go? Purgatory? | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 2184 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.37.10 |
dondi i did not say hell did not exsist i said arnold murray and the jws dont believe it exsist. i sure do believe that hell exsist NOW. it is a buring place where the rich man for one is at right now. hell is as real a place as heaven is. heaven was mad for the children of GOD. hell was created for the devil and his bunch of fallen angels. and the sinner chooses to go there by their refusal of JESUS as LORD AND SAVIOR. yes i believe in hell you msuderstood my post for i said murray and the jw didnt belive in it | ||
| dondi Intermediate Member Username: dondi Post Number: 188 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.225.255.53 |
oh ok then I apologize on that point. But tell me this. You are Pentecostal right? I thought I read in one of your posts that you believe in the speaking of tounges? Am I correct in this? If so, would you mind sharing and debating on it? Not out of hate mind you, but out of the search for knowledge. | ||
| ezekiel_37 Senior Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 1110 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 24.43.16.51 |
arron is not capable, because he will not do any homework. There are some here that will, albeit from what I have seen they are rooted deep in the deception. Also, HELL as the lake of fire DOES NOT EXIST NOW, but will at the Great White Thrown Judgement of God. The rich man was in HEAVEN not hell, as heaven is divided at this time, a good side and a not so good side, but it is definately not hell as the lake of Fire. The rich man and Lazarus were both in heaven. I have been over this with arron before, and he is still blind to this and many other issues. Peace in Christ Dondi c | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 2209 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.37.10 |
dondi.. yes i am pentecostal. yes i believe in speaking in tongues, i do and beleive in the other gifts as well. i dont mind serious questions but i dont want to argue on the bible. some on this thread say people are not saved as one poster has already shown and say we are ignorant i have learned not to answer a fool according to his folly lest i be like him. i dont debate as you say but i will discuss what i believe. i take the scriptures literly. i dont take what some body else says about it. i believe in heaven and hell hell does exsist now for the rich man went there JESUS said that HIMSELF but there are those who will say that isnt what is meant by that. hell has flames now as the bible teaches. THE RICH MAN WAS IN TORMENT IN THE FLAMES right then and still is. i beleive JESUS knew what HE WAS TALKING ABOUT | ||
| dondi Intermediate Member Username: dondi Post Number: 191 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.233.208.33 |
Arron. I am not here to argue the points of the bible. I am curious about the speaking of tounges. As far as debating the issue, I see that as a form of conversation. No matter the outcome, I don't believe either one of us will denounce our faith in Jesus or join a denomination. Would you care to debate this? Also, when I say debate, I mean you bring your knowledge to the table, and I bring mine and we go over that knowledge. E mail me at donsheppard@sbcglobal.net if you would like to do this and then I will explain my reasons behind it. Believe me, they are not to draw you into a heated and hatred filled discussion. | ||
| bear Intermediate Member Username: bear Post Number: 464 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.247.112.45 |
Ezekiel, Yes, you are correct. The lake of fire comes later. | ||
| ezekiel_37 Senior Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 1130 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 24.43.16.51 |
thx  Peace in Christ c | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 2501 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.37.10 |
dondi... i do not write to anyones email or give my email add out i only write on the threads. |
