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trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 1159
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.96.28.24
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 10:22 am: | 
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Here is a story in the Dallas Observer about the woman who cut her babies arms off recently. It talks about the insane teaching of her pastor, Doyle Davidson, and how that may have contributed to her mental breakdown. Please take a minute to read this.
http://www.dallasobserver.com/Issues/2006-05-11/news/feature.html
Are there any ex or present members who would like to comment on these articles and the practices of this cult? |
franklin
Senior Member
Username: franklin
Post Number: 2429
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 71.55.182.245
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
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The reason that brought me to factnet was another cult that teaches similar "devil's behind every corner" idiocy. That is a false doctrine that teaches a religion of fear. That is diametrically opposed to the Gospel of Christ. I completely reject this perversion of Christianity and fight against it. It is cultic and leads to dangerous mind control. There are ten thousand Christian churches to this one that teach the true Gospel of Christ. Of love not of fear. Thanks for sharing this article.  |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 1160
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 71.96.28.24
| | Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 3:36 pm: |
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I completely reject this perversion of Christianity and fight against it. It is cultic and leads to dangerous mind control.
Well, on this we at least agree.
I want nothing more than to "out" this lunatic. I am extremely surprised to find nothing on him here in this forum. Something, I am more than willing to remedy.
My wife works just down the street from that madhouse. I've driven by it many times. |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 1310
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.28
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:30 pm: |
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Doyle controls the weather (through the power of prayer I assume)! Wow. Doyle declared that it didn't get as hot as predicted because he wouldn't let it.
Go to http://www.doyledavidson.com/audio.htm and click on the file earmarked for Thursday 6/22/06.
He is obviously preaching to his detractors in this episode as he often does. |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 1464
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.18
| | Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:52 pm: |
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In the Thursday episode posted on Davidsons website (www.doyledavidson.com):
Doyle hurls all manner of rebuke at Baptists and his congregation then says that God gave Lisa to him as a "Second Wife" while his first and legal wife Pat had a Jezebel spirit that he had to deal with. Then he proceeds to declare that someone in the audience (You wicked people!) had followed him and Lisa spying on them. He then proceeds to rebuke and insult his congregation calling them spiritual whores and wicked.
I cannot believe that this guy is getting away with this whole "second wife" thing. He claims that "the law is not for the righteous" so apparently having two wives (one of which is married to another man) is as he would say ..."Cool".
He seems to be melting down in some paranoid personal crisis as a result of the recent articles in the Observer, etc.
He must have told the congregation they were "Wicked!" about 50 times in this broadcast. Why these people expose themselves to this abuse is beyond me. This man is an abusive rambling self-absorbed self appointed apostle who is fixated on another man's wife "Lisa" to the point his broadcast should be called First Church of Lisa. Sheesh. |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 11:25 pm: |
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I was part of this "group"/cult for many years.
what would you like to know? |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 12:02 am: |
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Hello Trained Observer, and Others!
I'm new here... I found fact net by reading about my FORMER "pastor" Doyle Davidson.
What Trained Observer said, about "outing" him is correct...
The Plano Police arrested him for Public Intoxication in Sept 2004, when he showed up at the Staton's house.
If you read the Dallas Observer article (which was very accurate), he was squatting on top of Mrs. Staton, trying to cast her supposed "jezebel spirit" out of her, in the Staton home.
Since then, he continues to pine away for his "Darling Lisa Davidson" as he now calls her.
Yeh, you read that correctly- he calls her LISA DAVIDSON.
Since she refuses to go back to him, and is living with her LEGAL husband, JR Staton, and since he can't get have his way with her, he rants and raves on the internet, nearly daily, on his website. He curses JR: says that JR and the Staton kids are going to die, calls Lisa a harlot and a WH*RE... NOW, it is not just Patti, who (God rest her) was a jezebel, now Mrs. Staton is the "jezebel".
The bottom line here, folks: anyone that doesn't agree with Doyle is:
rebellious, on their way to hell, forsaken by God, a child of the devil, an enemy of all righteousnes, stiffnecked, hard hearted, and regardless of their relationship with God, if you leave Doyle (and WOL church)... you have left God.
In Doyle's little world of twisted theology, the two cannot be separated.
It is my opinion, after having been a part of that place for so many years, is that Doyle has developed some type of paranoid, obsessive behavior.
The Plano Police need to keep an eye on this kook.
And it's NOT inconceivable to see the "kool Aid" scenario.
Pray for mercy for him- he's an ill man, who I believe (IMHO) he could be dangerous.
Oh, by the way, I noticed a post about Sam and Jane Whaley in North Carolina? Well, guess where they used to preach at,as guests? Yeh, WOL- Doyle knows them well.
Peace-ya'll! |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 2238
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.10
| | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 9:11 am: |
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ex_wol,
Where does doyle's money come from if he doesn't take money from the congregation as he claims?
Why does the congregation tolerate his verbal abuse? Has doyle ever pointed out someone out in the congregation and ridiculed them personally?
How does the congregation 'really' feel about the whole crazy 'doyle loves lisa' thing and how is it rationalized away? |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 2239
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.10
| | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 9:18 am: |
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ex_wol,
Doyle has appointed his apostles! Can his transfiguration be far behind?
"Justin Lehrke has replaced JR Staton as the twelfth apostle appointed by God through Doyle. He is now numbered as one of the twelve: Terry, Ralph, Basil, Steve, Dwyane, John, Jack, Donnie, Wally, Randy, Bob, and Justin."
from http://www.doyledavidson.com/news/news.htm |
cybermom
Advanced Member
Username: cybermom
Post Number: 656
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 67.186.102.112
| | Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 3:48 pm: |
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"The bottom line here, folks: anyone that doesn't agree with Doyle is:
rebellious, on their way to hell, forsaken by God, a child of the devil, an enemy of all righteousnes, stiffnecked, hard hearted, and regardless of their relationship with God, if you leave Doyle (and WOL church)... you have left God."
Classic cult, huh? My former "church" said the same thing; they are now cursing people who go elsewhere, telling them their houses are going to burn if they leave. My former leader also had "spiritual wives". This was his excuse for having ungodly relationships with women in the church, both sexual and emotional. He broke up marriages to obtain complete control over women he desired. What does this say? That Satan may be crafty, but he's not original and only has a few tricks in his bag and he's gotten quite good at using them. |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 6
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 2:02 am: |
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Well, I have three posts to address. Two from T.O. and one from cybermom.
I'll do one at a time.
Trained:Where does the money come from? That's secret. He has said that recently a man just gave him 100K- YES, you read that right- 100 THOUSAND dollars.
It's common knowledge that since Doyle has taught that it's "faith" if you can give 50% of your income, I DO KNOW of some people that have told me, that they give in the 5 digit amount.
One woman I know, told me, that her husband once gave about 60K in one year.... it's also common knowledge that the "faithful" will give him money that they received as inheritances when a relative has died.
Why do they tolerate his verbal abuse? For the same reason Jim Jones' followers rationaized his bizaare behavior. I know it's difficult to comprehend- but this is a very , very controlling, domineering man. He sucks you in, if you are vulnerable. At the time, I WAS VULNERABLE... I was in an abusive marriage, and if I even considered leaving my spouse, I was "rebellious" and a "jezebel"...
One must remember, these people are NOT using rational, cognotive reasoning. They are taught to put their "mind" and "emotions" aside, and walk by "the spirit"-
The problem is: WOL ministers the WRONG spirit...
ONLY the HOLY SPIRIT can lead us into all truth. NOT a man- not Davidson.
Why would 900 people follow Jim Jones to Guyana?
Why would Koresh's group follow him?
Because they truly believe these con-men are following GOD. Sad, but true.
I have personally witnessed him abusing his congregants. I have also personally seen him throw people out- literally chase them out of the church, because he thought they were "spies".
Has he ridiculed them, and pointed them out? Absolutely. I saw this more than once- both were women. One family left- the other is still there.
As per the "Second Wife" thing, I don't realy know, except for what I see on his website, his online "Love letters to Lisa "- you can read his gar-bahge under "news of interest".
He uses old testament verses, where God deals with Israel, and pulls obscure passages from Jeremiah and Hosea to support this junk theology.
Why does the congregation go along with it?
My opinion: FEAR of leaving, BRAINWASHED to believe he is really speaking from God, and believing his threats that if they leave, something dire will happen to them and their family, Classic cult techniques!
Now, on to another answer...
Peace |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 7
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 2:07 am: |
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This is for T.O's second post.
Yes, he has "appointed his apostles"...
But for a man that has so much faith, and claims to have a "ministry like Jesus"-
I haven't seen him walk on water, feed thousands with 2 loaves and 2 fish, nor raise the dead.
Jesus said: We'll know these people by their fruits.
Doyle's fruit is nothing more than scared, intimidated sheep.
Peace-
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ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 2:16 am: |
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FOR CYBERMOM:
Where on earth was this church?
Hmmmm- sounds like a WOL clone.
By the way, they have new WOL churches on OKLAHOMA, MISSOURI, WISCONSIN, and INDIANA.
My personal belief is that Doyle's obsession with Mrs Staton will not cease. He's a menace, to be sure.
I hope the Statons are being careful.
Doyle says he and Mrs Staton will be going to Israel on a chartered jet...
He also told the church a couple of years ago, that he was going to go to Israel, and that he and a "prophetess" were going to conceive a child in Jerusalem, and that it would be a boy, named John and that this child would be born before his 74th birthday (April 1, 2006)....
He will be 75 this coming April-
there's no kid around yet.
FALSE PROPHET.  |
cybermom
Advanced Member
Username: cybermom
Post Number: 657
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 67.186.102.112
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 4:13 am: |
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This "church" has been around since the early '70's. They aren't associated with WOL at all; they were into the whole Christian "community living" thing from the Jesus Movement and then the shepherding stuff. Very abusive and controlling. I just posted because your post struck a nerve; sounded too familiar to pass up.
BTW my former leader died last year and I thought things would lighten up. But as you can see they've only gotten worse since his second in command, a woman operating under the spirit of Jezebel, has taken over. I hesitate to give too much info because I live in very close proximity to them, and as you can see they're literally threatening people who leave. There are many safety issues I deal with. Not paranoia, just wisdom. |
trainedobserver
Senior Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 2243
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.22
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 10:12 am: |
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I don't understand why the Stantons haven't taken some sort of legal action against this lunatic (as in "a person whose actions and manner are marked by extreme eccentricity or recklessness."). How can he get by with making the statements he does about these people on national television? Doesn't this type of behavior constitute stalking and slander? Did Lisa ever 'live' with Doyle? I get the impression that she did not. Regardless of any past relationship with the man, she and her husband don't' have to put up with this sort of thing. There are legal avenues they should explore. |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 9
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 4:49 pm: |
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FOR CYBERMOM:
Hi-
I completely understand you not wanting to get too specific.
And NO, I do NOT think you are "paranoid"!
You are being wise.
People that have never been wrapped up in cults that are abusive, don't /can't comprehend how dangerous these people can be...
"Accidents" start happening.
And NO, I am not paranoid, either.
MY cult Leader (ex-pastor) will never be able to find me. I don't live anywhere near the group.
That's all I can say.
I am confident he doesn't have it in for me- I don't fear him, he's never threatened me.
Even if he did, he doesn't scare me.
Chances are, he would be too intoxicated to do any harm! ;)
Peace- |
ex_wol
New member
Username: ex_wol
Post Number: 11
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 76.183.42.81
| | Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 5:14 pm: |
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FOR TRAINED OBSERVER:
Hi there-
As I said before, I don't know why they haven't taken legal action against this lunatic.
The only reason I can think of, is that because of the relationship between the deranged Doc, and Mrs Staton, it's my "guess" that he has some "dirt" on them, or on her, that if they went to court, it would be extremely damaging to the Statons.
Knowing him, perhaps he audio/video taped the two of them? Perhaps for "insurance" for future reference? I can totally see him having done that.
Imagine: what if he videotaped her, or took pictures of her, and threatened to put them on the internet? It's just a guess, but it's plausible.
OF COURSE what he is doing is stalking and slander! He is frustrated, because he can't find her!
He found out, not long ago, where Mr Staton was working, and showed up- unannounced... out of the blue.
Fortuntately, Mr Staton was not at his place of employment...
So the doc wasn't able to get his hands on the hubby.
I suppose he thinks he's exercising his FREEDOM OF SPEECH rights-
I decided about two years to start OPENLY talking about him on the internet. He used to boast about his accusors always being anonymous-
so, several of us, "EX" wol people went public, using our real names, with the media.
It helped ME, if nothing else. It helped, by taking away his POWER that he head, by threatening us that were anonymous.
It's all out there, publicly now... and frankly, Dear Scarlett, I simply don't give a "hoot" ;)
YOU ARE CORRECT:
Lisa Staton NEVER lived with him, to my knowledge.
I see her as a victim of his manipulation.
Under Texas Law, he actually qualifies as committing sexual assault: He was her "clergy" man- and Texas Law says if a clergyman manipulates a vulnerable congregant, he/she CAN be prosecuted.
This is a very perverse, sick situation.
The only reason I keep poking at the fire is in the hopes that if the media doesn't turn their eyes away, he won't get away with any surprises.
Sorta like holding his feet to the fire- if you get myt drift.
Peace-
(Message edited by ex_wol on January 12, 2007) |
burdenofchoice
New member
Username: burdenofchoice
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 72.48.2.249
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 10:12 am: |
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ex wol I was wondering if you could contact me please. I won't go into specifics here, but finding out this information has changed my life and I need to talk to someone who has been on the other end of this church/congregation. my email is cantbewrongifyouright@yahoo.com I would very much appreciate you contacting me. |
trainedobserver
Intermediate Member
Username: trainedobserver
Post Number: 151
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 198.49.119.33
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 11:15 am: |
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Davidson is raving on the 'messages to Lisa' page that Lisa is going to go to Israel with him but his video page already has videos from Israel. Has he left yet or not? I can't get any of the videos to play myself. |
ihavesinned
Intermediate Member
Username: ihavesinned
Post Number: 112
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 24.17.77.171
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 10:29 pm: |
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Ho-lee-••••!
This guy is a real nut. Sometimes I forget that people really get caught up in this stuff, and this guy sounds like a real mental case. Plano Texas, what a surprise - and he posts his own stalker letters on his website for fucksake.
Listen to this:
"Dear Lisa,
I continue to fight and overcome witchcraft every day. I find myself being led by the Spirit to thank God for you, to bless you, and to loose you from witchcraft that has you deceived and bound.
In I Corinthians 7 Paul writes in verses 10-15, "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: v.10
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. v.11
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. v.12
And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. v.13
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. v.14
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace." v.15
Most certainly God gave you to me as my wife, and for seventeen years you had no problems acknowledging and confessing that. You then began to rebel and deny that you were my wife. Most certainly I do not recognize you as an unbeliever but as someone that is deceived and does not believe in part. I will continue to fight, to set you free from deceit and pray that you return to normal reasoning.
Love you,
Doyle" |
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