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     voidgate Member Username: voidgate Post Number: 53 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.99 |
A book that has some relevance to RSE.......http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966621301/028-4665723-1626951 | ||
| journeythroughramthaland New member Username: journeythroughramthaland Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.130.150.209 |
That was a great book void. Lots of similar behaviors. | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 52 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.178.97.53 |
Thanks for that voidgate, Seductive Poison Written by Deborah Layton. Shows just how far a cult leader can control its flock, And the tragic consequences of collapsing into its own delusions http://www.randomhouse.com/anchor/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385489843 | ||
| voidgate Member Username: voidgate Post Number: 54 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.150 |
JTR, Have you read the book or just the outline? | ||
| voidgate Member Username: voidgate Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.60 |
400 YEARS OF IMAGINARY FRIENDS Perhaps the friends are imaginary, or perhaps it is imagination that they are your friends. At the Estes Park Retreat in Colorado that was held at the YMCA there were about 600 people in attendance. Accommodation was bunk style with food catered for. This was in 1989. I considered the food was quite enjoyable. There were lots of sumptuous desserts after the main evening meal and everyone indulged heartily.....that is until the sugar teaching on day two, or three. Ramtha stated that because we eat so much sugar we have lost our natural taste and it was not recommended to eat it. Everyone but the bravest of souls refrained from eating dessert.....without informing the caterers. Can you imagine 600 prepared desserts and almost everyone refuses to eat them because of the teacher's All Wise Knowing Countenance? Also he said we spend too much time looking in the mirror so all of the mirrors in the bathroom had brown paper taped over them. This is in someone else's residence. The sugar teachings obviously apply no longer otherwise the coke machine would be thrown out the door. Is the teacher imaginary? Or is it imaginary that he is a friend? | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 76 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
"Is the teacher imaginary? Or is it imaginary that he is a friend?" asks Voidgate. I would say that it could be all of those things and more. The teacher could be imaginary. The teacher could also be unfriendly. The teacher could also have a personal motivation - such as using the school as an experiment of human nature. Personally, I think that whomever the teacher genuinely is (Ramtha or JZ) is secondary to the fact that the negativity that goes on there, in all its many forms, speaks for itself. Then, for me, the question became, "Do I want to support this, and participate ?" I do not. I would not run a school that way, nor treat people the way they are treated there. So, I'm a hypocrit to attend. Thus, I don't ! My two cents. | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.178.97.53 |
When I arrived on the RSE scene… Mirror’s were a big no no,.. Credit cards were a tool of the “Grey Men”.. Music with lyrics brainwashed your mind.. Swearing and Alcohol were destructive… Jewelry and perfume were and ego trip.. Going to the bathroom while “Ramtha” was “Teaching” was a sign of weakness.. Vegetarians are fools… Twinkling stars were alien spaceships…. Sleeping in your vehicle was absolutely forbidden… Teslar watches really worked… Copper foil warded of alien intrusions… The inner Earth “Lemurians” were preparing to resurface in the Bald Hills… Jehovah was returning with his reptilian lizards… Gays and Lesbians were respected….. Jeff Knight still believed in “Ramtha”… And JZ Knight had her own face… David. | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 77 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
David wrote: "The inner Earth “Lemurians” were preparing to resurface in the Bald Hills" Now I understand !!! I never heard that story before.But it explains why there was so much attention on living in the Bald Hills! The aliens are coming ! Hmmm....it's been 20 years........or more.....so, ummm...WHEN are they coming to town ? How many years did it take Jehovah to return for those people ? Hahahahaahaha | ||
| voidgate Member Username: voidgate Post Number: 59 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.198 |
On a more lighthearted note I must inform you that last year I did witness an individual in Rainier that looked like they were directly transported from the Delta quadrant. I have never seen anything on Earth that looks very much like a Kazon (look up Star Trek Voyager if you are unfamiliar with this species). | ||
| whatchamacallit Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 78 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
sounds like they've arrived, then. i wonder if they brought any chocolate with them. | ||
| david_mccarthy Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 55 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.178.97.53 |
I also recall.. Soon after "Ramtha" told us that the inner Earth Lemurians were digging there way out in the Bald hills, Many students reported they could hear sounds coming from deep within the Earth, Some said it was the military building a secret underground complex.. But we new the truth.. It was the Lemurians digging furiously to reach us in time before Jehovah arrived.. Thank God we changed the time line… Chuckle… David. | ||
| david_mccarthy Intermediate Member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 143 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.227.109.39 |
The Great Work? This was sent to me as a reminder of the early “Teachings” Do you remember the RSE Checklist? These are some of the things on the subliminal recording of “The List” I am……the following Filled with vital energy My deeper mind Joy Unconditional love Worthy Immortal Unlimited wealth and abundance Master of manifesting objects in my hand Complete freedom Fearless Precognitive A lucid dreamer A time traveler An alchemist Genius mind Master of the field Master of the dance I accomplish the labyrinth A healer Master of remote view Greater than my genetic programming Transmuted. I cease to age. Radiant health and vitality Abundance Sovereign on all levels Fulfilled The mind of God Master of “Twilight” ------------------------------------------ My body is X years younger My pantry is full. I am abundant. I live in superconsciousness My immune system is functioning at its optimum I live in the present I can access my blue body at will I can move objects with my mind I walk through walls Those I touch are healed I can see frequency I can feel colour I have the power to create my life the way I want it to be. I can create anything I want My manifestations come quickly I remember my past lives I remember my future I commune with great beings I remember my life with Ramtha I have visions f the golden plane of paradise I see clearly the energy fields of every individual I see in full view my radiant body I travel dimensionally I know the future and make my choices accordingly I live in the now. I know the thoughts of others My psychic abilities are fully developed My brain is open My body reflects perfection All my debts are paid I can see things others do not. My body functions at its optimum The beginning objective of RSE was to be free of one’s past. This was defined as owning the unresolved emotions in the soul and resolving them into wisdom. The attitudes of the first three seals….sexuality, pain and power over others is no longer present. This would mean that the energy (kundalini) that was coiled at the base of the spine would then rise up to the chest area and would swell the thymus gland so that ageing ceases and the body regenerates. Fabulous wealth would also materialize, as there is no more unworthiness. This was termed to be the fourth seal in consciousness (ultra violet; bridge consciousness) and was stated to be the Beginning journey. Many more items could be added to the above list. The pagan dances focused on having the ability of many animal species….the regeneration ability of a chameleon, the night vision of a nocturnal animal etc. How many of these things that you have focused upon are now in your DAILY life? | ||
| mathew_morrell Junior Member Username: mathew_morrell Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 70.252.132.140 |
In years past JZ used to disassociate her teachings with the positive thinking fad, and yet "The List" seems to be an offshoot of this fad: a type of attitude psychology that uses positive affirmations as a tool for inner change. Her particular type of attitude psychology could be explained in the following terms. The affirmations on The List cannot be heard. They’re supposed to work subliminally, on the unconscious level, thereby bypassing “the grid” (the altered ego) in the brain. After the subliminal affirmation “bypasses” the grid the affirmation enters directly into the frontal cortex where the affirmation imprints and remaps the neurons with the affirmation’s thought-content. Sounds fantastic, if it worked. Unfortunately, nobody in the school has remapped their brain well enough to become genuine masters, or even common sense folk. I mean, if you cut through all the esoteric mumbo jumbo and get down to the brass tacks of her philosophy, does it amount to anything more than the common held believe that a positive attitude, supported by affirmations, creates success? Personally, I left the school before RSE started pimping “The List.” So perhaps others can speak more clearly than I on this issue. Accurately and meticulously presenting her philosophy in precise terms is the best way to expose JZs greatest shortcoming. Her philosophy is all glitter and no substance. | ||
| voidgate Intermediate Member Username: voidgate Post Number: 138 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 144.138.162.197 |
Mathew, It must have been after you left that Ramtha taught "Twilighting". He gave students a list of about 10 things to visualize in a motionless, reclined position and then you could add your own preferences onto the main list. So components of the above were practiced for a long time in the twilight process. The list above also served ideas for student to make cards for the field, dance etc. The subliminal words on the tapes and CD's were to support the active disciplines. Tick the one's that have manifested consistently in one's life ????? |
