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     deektrick New member Username: deektrick Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 71.243.118.2 |
Matrixism is a drug using cult that has been made out of the movie The Matrix. It claims to be based on the Baha'i religion also but again they advocate the use of psychedelic drugs. See for yourself ~ http://www.geocities.com/matrixism2069 | ||
| eucharist New member Username: eucharist Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 206.188.56.114 |
Just because Matrixism believes in sacrament and their sacrament is different than yours does not mean that they are a drug using "cult". Why not just call almost every denomination of Christianity a "drug using cult"? You might just as well have. | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2760 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.255.151.176 |
Drugs have always played a role in religion. Did you know that there is a symbol of a phallus, flanked by two fountains representing the Amanita Muscaria in the Vatican courtyard? the Aminita Muscaria is a psychedelic mushroom. take a look at the links if you do not believe me. there is much that the general public is not told. drugs and Christianity drugs and Christianity | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 2073 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Er, drugs have not always played a role in Christianity. The suppositional nature of the two links, one of which is Gnostic, is pretty laughable. One might better say that drug using groups, wishing for legitimacy, have often appropriated Christian terminology and symbolism to attempt to lend legitimacy to their beliefs. It hasn't worked, but it's creative. Feliz Navidad! Christ is born!! Glorify Him!! | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2761 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.255.151.176 |
Allegro was one of the leading language scholars of his time. he was chosen by Britain to be one of the people to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls. it is through the translating of these documents that this information was obtained. you do not seem to be one to dismiss such scholarship so lightly. i am saddened to see you do such a thing. the word is not found in the bible in the way the Christians have been taught. it could be translated that way in 1Tm. 6:20 but it has nothing to do with any group of people as you seem to think. it is best translated as knowledge. any reputable scholar would agree. you can dismiss what i have posted if you like but it makes me sad that you would do so. | ||
| mcmstaff78 Senior Member Username: mcmstaff78 Post Number: 2075 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 167.193.134.61 |
Yeah, the folks who brought us the so-called Jesus family tombs were also "leading scholars". When something is so far out of the mainstream, it almost always is. I don't dismiss scholarship, I'm just expect it to be such. | ||
| eucharist New member Username: eucharist Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.243.118.2 |
While it is true that the Christian church does have connections to psychedelics that is not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Christian use of alcohol as sacrament. Before anyone denies that alcohol is a powerful drug let's remember that it is highly addictive and accounts for a huge number of fatalities. Interestingly enough psychedelics are not addictive at all. | ||
| giulia Intermediate Member Username: giulia Post Number: 210 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 61.68.167.165 |
So what are you saying? That the use of drugs brings one closer to God, or makes him/her have a more intense experience of God? It is true that the use of LSD makes one able to see vivid colours and even the light which emanates from life, however it is an isolated experience which requires the continual use of a drug, sometimes even turning into a bad experience where dark images are also magnified. Having any sort of dependency on any source other than God Himself is not a lasting experience, it may be a window to a view but the experience will fade. LSD may not be addictive but you can't control the trip you are gonna have, and if it's a bad one,you better be equipped to deal with all the mosters that are gonna fly at ya  As far as the MATRIX being a cult, that is a laugh! How stupid can people be????? | ||
| bear Senior Member Username: bear Post Number: 1021 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 66.227.244.201 |
Eucharist, Food is also a problem...so many are overweight and thus suffer from many health problems, Soda pop...much of the same as above, and it is addictive. Coffee...the greatest beverage on earth, also very addictive. Wine has been used through the centuries. It was and is a very important part of Jewish culture and religion. BTW, Jesus drank real wine, not just grape juice. (Message edited by bear on December 25, 2007) | ||
| easeltine Senior Member Username: easeltine Post Number: 1815 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 75.36.165.180 |
 FACTNet is also a problem. Look at us!? A guy places a comment about Matrix being a religion 18 months ago and everybody ignores it for 18 months. Now, finally, in just the past 4 days there have been 9 different answers to it. Are we mentally stable? Blue grape juice or Red grape juice....which do you choose? Red you go down FACTNet and the rabbit hole. | ||
| bear Senior Member Username: bear Post Number: 1026 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 66.227.244.201 |
 That is so true!!!!!!!! I am laughing at myself too. Too many peanut butter balls and Dr. Pepper for me today. | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2792 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.255.151.176 |
i have been down the rabbit hole along with alice. it was quite a trip to say the least. http://www.sabian.org/alicech1.htm don't forget to click on the link to the commentary at the bottom. in doing this you will learn alice's secrets. | ||
| giulia Intermediate Member Username: giulia Post Number: 211 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 61.68.167.165 |
I like Alice in Wonderland  , don't have to even take a pill first | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2800 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.255.151.176 |
giulia, did you look at the link? it has the entire story. | ||
| easeltine Senior Member Username: easeltine Post Number: 1818 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 76.204.194.235 |
I bought the first movie, "The Matrix", on Ebay for $3.00 around a year ago. I never saw the movie before, nor any of the sequels. I have seen it several times now. Here are some of my kookie ideas about the movie that the guy who did it would like Christians to take it: There is a spiritual world and a physical world. The spiritual world is the real world in reality. You have a choice of going to the real, spiritual world by taking the red pill, which is believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, (red for the blood of Jesus). When you become, "Born Again", you go to the reality world of the spiritual. You go down the rabbit hole. You cut off your bondages to sin, and you become a new creature in Christ. The demons are leaching on you when you are part of the world, before the demons were using your sins for their energy. You cut off the cords of the demonic bondages of Satan, and his host of demons. When you become, "Born Again", you "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, and powers in the heavenly realm." You fight against Satan and his hosts. You are in love with the Trinity. Forgive us Lord for taking a movie of entertainment too seriously. | ||
| giulia Intermediate Member Username: giulia Post Number: 212 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 61.68.167.165 |
fatheroffaking, Yes, I looked, didn't quite make the connection at first, I see a resemblance now though. The ideas are very similar. | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2801 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.255.151.176 |
i thought i would let folks know that i do not use drugs, nor am i involved in any religions based on the matrix or alice in wonderland. both of these stories (Alice and the Matrix) are full of symbolism, but they were never meant to be turned into a religion, and certainly were not advocating taking drugs. people get strange ideas from this kind of stuff, that does mean that is what is being taught by these stories. there is however, much to be learned from the symbolism if people are so inclined to want to learn about such things. i find it all quite fascinating myself. it takes a great deal of understanding and talent to put these kinds of stories together. as a writer myself i am able to appreciate this kind of thing without taking it literally. i like this kind of entertainment because i can learn something from it. i do not enjoy much of the mind numbing stuff you see on television. i am off to watch "2001 A Space Odyssey." a classic to be sure. | ||
| giulia Intermediate Member Username: giulia Post Number: 213 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 61.68.167.165 |
People who have taken drugs, though can understand that there are suggestions in both that don't advocate taking drugs, but certainly refer to taking them. |
