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norstar (norstar)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 82.133.23.162
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you want to read something funny go to:

http://www.cultbusters.com.au/index.php?topic=5.30

read Godchilds' message dated 6th March
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godchild (godchild)
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Post Number: 3052
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 4.255.44.153
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are so cunning. As soon as you saw my post there, you ran right over here and posted your message as norstar. Even reregistered and used a different name here. Why would a total stranger to me do something like this? They wouldn't but you, joesdad, would.
Now you will have to expend more wasted energy trying to keep your posts as joesdad separate from norstars. What a wasted effort and wasted time.
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godchild (godchild)
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Post Number: 3053
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Posted From: 4.255.44.153
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't you know how simple it is to find where and who is posting from? Maybe if you brushed up on 'computers' you would learn not to waste your time trying to pin anything on godchild. You see, now if you go back and modify your post there, the time will change. It was simple enough to just copy your post there, the original.
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godchild (godchild)
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Post Number: 3054
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It will be interesting to see how far you will go in this foolishness. I await the post from jd '3' here. Or from our new 'norstar'.

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godchild (godchild)
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What you fail to realize, after all this time trying to make accusations against me, no matter what people may think of me personally, it will not/cannot change the fact that the mormon church teaches false doctrine. Instead of speaking for your church and your beliefs, you have instead chosen an agenda to attack me as a person, in the hopes that it will detract from the facts about the mormon church.
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godchild (godchild)
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Post Number: 3118
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Posted From: 4.255.40.217
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A note of interest: I posted quite a while ago that the mormon church had asked for closing of websites not approved by the leadership. A Christian has been very gracious in finding the following:

I did find this link in the SL Tribune archives:
Article 22 of 107
LDS Church to Unify Its Net Voice
Date: March 28, 2001

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, citing concerns over proliferation of thousands of unofficial Mormon-related Web sites, has requested that local church leaders discontinue their Internet home pages. The Presiding Bishopric of the LDS Church,

on behalf of the faith's ruling First Presidency, sent a letter to local leaders -- from mission presidents to bishops -- asking them to take down their existing sites.

Local leaders also were told not to put up any new...



Page: A1
Word Count: 1054
Publication: Salt Lake Tribune, The (UT)
Article ID: 100E83D314E81529
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nulla
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Post Number: 375
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 202.173.180.87
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Godchild,
I am back from some leave and have finally had the chance after a week or so to catch up with my emails etc..
I have looked as well at the Norstar Joesdad IP thing here and at www.cultbusters.com.au and it is the same person.

I thought that there may have been a reason other than not having an answer or not being able to face facts, but it is very obvious that when the likes of Joesdad and Solopilot are confronted with some truth about their own posts that may expose them as lying or that they may have to admit something about their church that they are afraid of, they choose to run and hide.
When I asked SP to reply to a post he made where he claimed that certain things about the papyrus were FACT and I showed it all to be false he disappeared... still waiting mate if you’re reading this for an explanation or reply to that post

When JD was confronted with the truth that Joseph Smith had lied and that he had plural wives and had slept with more than just his claimed one wife he disappeared and chooses to come back as Norstar.

Now JD you have been true to form in that you have tried to scheme behind the backs of others by sending a young lady at Cultbusters PM's in which she claims that you tried to promote the LDS doctrine to her and that you were trying to run another member of the site down behind that and other members backs… little school boy tactics.

This other member I would say without doubt would be GC and her claims that you have a personal issue with her are now exposed by your very own disgraceful actions.
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nulla
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Post Number: 376
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

continued

I would like to quote you here JD, this is from another thread when you posted on the Jehovahs forum here on factnet.

"Just as I have investigated the beliefs of my religion, I have had the opportunity of looking, though I must admit briefly at those of the JW's. my investigation came up short as I very quickly came across a discrepancy that I was taken to their Elders, and never answered.

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FIND THE REAL TRUTH IF WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO SEEK IT?, and be honest with ourselves when the answers come?"

It appears you do not practice what you preach.

Godchild stood by her word and her beliefs even though you disagree with the christian doctrine and she yours, GC had the guts to stand up to both you and your alias as Godchild.
Godchild stood against you with the Holy Bible in her hand and it needed not be translated correctly like the LDS claims it need be to expose your true personality.

You set a poor example of what you claim is a wonderful religion.
Is it any wonder I am having so much trouble trying to get along with my inlaws if they are taught the same traits.

I state this now that you all follow to the word that all other churches are an abomination and it’s the Mormons who are anti Christian. Christians who stand up against these false doctrines are not Anti Mormon, but just Pro Christian.
We as Christians do not need to lie and pretend we believe in the bible as Mormons do.


Nulla.
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norstar
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Posted From: 82.133.23.162
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nulla: Love it!!

"Now JD you have been true to form in that you have tried to scheme behind the backs of others by sending a young lady at Cultbusters PM's in which she claims that you tried to promote the LDS doctrine to her and that you were trying to run another member of the site down behind that and other members backs… little school boy tactics"

Claims? Have her show you what I said - how sad of her IF that is what she has told you. In fact all I said was that joining the Chuch changed me in positive ways, and that when I joined those who were (and still are) my friends commented on the changes without my having told them I'd joined the Church (because I was young at the time). I urged her NOT to give up on her friends as friends JUST because they had joined the Church. I DID not mention ANY LDS doctrine in my PM, I also made it absolutely clear to her WHY I had PM'd her rather than posting my comments that we directed solely at her and her relationship with her friends. Running down (I assume you mean GC?) again prove it, show the words that I wrote to back this up. So who is lying? YOU or HER?

"This other member I would say without doubt would be GC and her claims that you have a personal issue with her are now exposed by your very own disgraceful actions"

Grow up and take a break! GC is paranoid to the exteme or very good at manipulating the likes of yourself. She gives as good as she gest ALWAYS, to pretend otherwise is to blind yourself of the truth. In fact she saw a way of ridding someone who was able to show what lies and falsehoods she throws around, and her sheer lack of understanding of the LDS faith - and took it. That site's admin has shown a real lack of backbone - soon GC will be a mediaor there, and altering all the posts to suit her strange purposes - and you like a lamb to the slaughter will follow, and why?, beats me.
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norstar
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Posted From: 82.133.23.162
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some facts re: Ip's, JD & me.

JD has been posting here for well over a year I believe, from IP's 62.253.215.25 and 62.252.64.33
The first ebing his WORK PC and the second his HOME PC. If you want to bother (I'm sure you conspiracy theorists will not want to) the latter died a death in about march/april last year. Then at the end of January this year when he left his job due to illness JD's IP changed to 82.133.23.162 mine.

He tells me that you are well aware of his illness and the operation (or do you want to pretend he made it up?)

So, what am I guilty of? Attempting to keep up JD's posts here whilst going to Cultbusters for myself. Oooh, what a sin.

I am amazed at how easily GC has caught you up in her sad little theory, paranoia? persecution complex? dunno, but it's been effective. Just the same as you and others believing all you read about LDS, so long as it isfrom a negative point of view of course.

"You set a poor example of what you claim is a wonderful religion.
Is it any wonder I am having so much trouble trying to get along with my inlaws if they are taught the same traits"

And I suppose you will hide behind GC when you discover how much she has duped you?

Enough said.
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godchild
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Posted From: 4.255.41.123
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

jd,norstar,robert or john, whoever you now claim to be. At the time you sent a pm to a member at cultbusters.com.au, there were three people posting on the mormon threads; the lady in question who you sent the pm to, you as (norstar), and me (godchild). It is obvious that the person you warned her against (as stated in her posting a cultbusters) was me.
By your previous actions, though you may call yourself by another name, you show that you cannot get beyond the fact that I have shown with volumes of evidence that the mormon church is a cult.
Now you are going to past posts by godchild (me) to again start your foolish attacks which again will avail you nothing. Your credibility is gone. If you wish to refute any evidence non or ex-mormons post, I suggest you respond to the evidence and not to me personally which I have asked you to do numerous times over the past year.
Why would anyone who is merely a 'friend' of yours, go to so much trouble to track one person down, who they have had no contact with, to continue the same attacks by him, and using the same subtle language nuances used by him.
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norstar
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GC: You say:
"It is obvious that the person you warned her against (as stated in her posting a cultbusters) was me"

Yet I can guarantee than you have made not one ounce of effort to ensure that any such "warning" was given. In reality, the sad child thought she'd put her tuppence worth in to the kicking you fake Christians at Cultbusters thought you'd give me, whilst denying me the chance of defending myself. Have you asked her to paste an exact copy of my PM, so that you can see whether she has totally over exaggerated anything I said, or just plain lied to fit in with the rest of the rabble.

"By your previous actions" - an empty vain statement - substantiate it, or shut up with the accusations.

"you show that you cannot get beyond the fact that I have shown with volumes of evidence that the mormon church is a cult" the joke of the decade, you would not know proof it it bit you. Your vain imaginings that you are some glorified saviour to the lower classes made up of those beneath you only because you imagine to be superior by the fact you think you can twist and manipulate the poor minds of those who know no better are really starting to look silly.

"Now you are going to past posts by godchild (me) to again start your foolish attacks which again will avail you nothing" What? You are now really clutching at straws. Who is attacking whom? Is there a rule on this site that a newcomer can't comment on old posts, I've seen it happen loads - so is it just me that you don't like doing it? I notice you fail to respond to it - wonder why?

"I suggest you respond to the evidence and not to me personally which I have asked you to do numerous times over the past year" - You really are caught up in your own hype. Just beacuse you WANT me to be JD so you can pretend to hide behind your ignnorance of my beliefs will not stop you showing yourself up. What evidence?, you don't understand what you post, so how do you know if an answer is given? You chuck about big chunks of documents without showing the slightest sign of being able to comprehend the meaning of what you copy, lots of effort there.

"Why would anyone who is merely a 'friend' of yours, go to so much trouble to track one person down, who they have had no contact with, to continue the same attacks by him, and using the same subtle language nuances used by him" Pathetic GC. Just how many cult chatsites are there? So, where should I have gone? Please, tell me the sites I have your permission to visit!!
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norstar
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GC:"using the same subtle language nuances" is that your professional opinion as a linguist, or as the slanderer that is incapable of backing up an accusation that I am brainwashed? Thought so.
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norstar
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GC:"using the same subtle language nuances" is that your professional opinion as a linguist, or as the slanderer that is incapable of backing up an accusation that I am brainwashed? Thought so.
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godchild
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Posted From: 4.255.41.123
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If norstar isn't joesdad, he is an 'exact replica'.
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norstar
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Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 2:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GC: another boring comment with no substance, yawn, yawn, yawn

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