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jonathanclement (jonathanclement)
New member
Username: jonathanclement
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 24.71.223.142
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 1:58 am: | 
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Or is this one trying to degrade them into a cult and giving me a bunch of dogma that I'm gonna be "married to Jesus" and that there's no romance in heaven and that if I'm sterile, I'll never ever have children? |
joesdad (joesdad)
Advanced Member
Username: joesdad
Post Number: 578
Registered: 2-2005
Posted From: 82.133.23.162
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 6:04 am: |
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The latter I'm afraid, are you LDS yourself, or a seeker of the truth (not that they are mutually exclusive of course) |
godchild (godchild)
Senior Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 2940
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 4.255.41.149
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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johnathan, Jesus said: "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:29-30
Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.
Matthew 22 The Parable of the Wedding Feast.
Luke 14:15 The Parable of the Great Supper.
Luke 14:26 "If anyone come to Me, and does not hate his father, and mother, wife and children, brothers and sister, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple."
In the Greek, 'hate' here is defined as 'love less'. You must love the Lord more: with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul. |
godchild (godchild)
Senior Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 2941
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 4.255.41.149
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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The word marriage has more than the meaning in the Bible than to join a man and woman in marriage.
Hebrew: to join in affinity, (agreement), To fix upon (by agreement or appointment), assemble together, to dwell together.
Given has more than one meaning in the Bible: Hebrew: given to a master,or a husband. As Adam was chosen to be the husbandman of all the creation, Given of God.
(Message edited by godchild on March 03, 2006) |
godchild (godchild)
Senior Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 2942
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 4.255.41.149
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 11:49 am: |
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We are the bride, Jesus is the husband who will come to gather us, as we agreed to when we accepted Him as our Lord and Savior. We are to wait for Him, be ready. |
jonathanclement (jonathanclement)
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Username: jonathanclement
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 24.71.223.142
| | Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:34 am: |
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Right-o. Away I go, then... |
nulla
Intermediate Member
Username: nulla
Post Number: 377
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 202.173.180.87
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 6:42 pm: |
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Jonathanclement
We do not have to degrade mormons into a cult.
It is the mormon doctrine that degrades the bible and christian theology thus putting itself into a cult group with its demand that you follow a lying cheating swindling false prophet who helped write a book of lies and did his best to fool those gullible enough to believe him. Same goes for today... but they now do all they can to hide the truth... the real roots of this evil false doctrine that has its missionaries hold in hand the bible in an attempt to lure Christians away from God. Not the god of flesh that’s in your doctrine, not the god that was once a man, I am talking about the chritian god.
Those lies and false gods are the roots of your church, not the roots of christianity.
If all other churches and beliefs are according to Joseph Smith and the LDS an abomination in the eyes of god then he is telling you, I and everyone else that he is right and everything to do with chritianity is wrong.
If you do not like to face the fact that your lds thinks along these lines, or if you do not like being told the truth about the history of the mormons then visit a mormon friendly site that promotes your cult activities.
Why not come back and debate with us without even having to mention religious doctrines, for I am sure you may be able to spin some new light on why:
There is no DNA evidence to support the BoM
There is no and may I repeat no archealogical evidence to support the BoM.
Not one ounce of metal or any historical artifact has ever been found to show that the Americas were once inhabited by the people that your false prophet made up in his Book Of Fiction |
nulla
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Username: nulla
Post Number: 378
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 202.173.180.87
| | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 6:47 pm: |
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A Cult of Christianity
The Mormon Church - officially, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint - considers itself not just a Christian denomination, but rather the only true expression of Christianity.
However, the history, theology and practices of Mormonism show this religious movement to be outside of orthodox Christianity.
Mormons believe that their church is "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth" (D&C 1:30), the only organization authorized by the Almighty to preach his gospel and administer the ordinances of salvation, the only Church which has power to save" (Mormon Doctrine; 1977 ed, p. 136).
Mormons either deny of pervert every essential doctrine of historic Christianity, including the uniqueness of God, the virgin birth, the Trinity, the authority of Scripture (by relegating it to a position below their other sacred writings), and salvation by grace through faith. |
norstar
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Username: norstar
Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 82.133.23.162
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:23 am: |
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"There is no DNA evidence to support the BoM"
Out of interest, what do youCLAIM the BoM says that could in any way relate to DNA. What does the BoM ACTUALLY say when referring to the parentage of those who's history is being recorded. I do not recall anything linking them or their ancestors to any one particular country. But maybe you know better - we'll see.
Robert (thought that would send you ripping your hair out - no Mormons could know someone, or be friends with someone with the same first name as themselves - this is PROOF - ha, see, that's the real reason the BoM is false, beacuse there are more than one Nephi - you win, the Church will be disbanded immediately) |
norstar
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Username: norstar
Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 82.133.23.162
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:26 am: |
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"Mormons either deny of pervert every essential doctrine of historic Christianity, including the uniqueness of God, the virgin birth, the Trinity, the authority of Scripture (by relegating it to a position below their other sacred writings), and salvation by grace through faith"
Say's who? (been having private lessons from Godchild?) |
norstar
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Username: norstar
Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 82.133.23.162
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 7:33 am: |
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BTW: The name's John. (sure the mediators can confirm if your paranoid friends need reassurance) |
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