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     godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2375 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.155 |
Believes that the true identity of the ten lost tribes of Israel is the white, Anglo Saxon race. A number of independant churches and organizations (including some militant rascist groups) make up the general movement. Most deny the trinity. Some teach a form of the serpent seed doctrine.= believing that Jews are descendants of Eve's sexual relations with the serpent, and are thus not fully human. Non-whites are descended from the union of Cain and a woman from a pre-Adamic race. Much of these churches doctrines are adopted from John Wilson's book: Lectures on Our Israelite Origins (1840). | ||
| manu_forti (manu_forti) Intermediate Member Username: manu_forti Post Number: 106 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 12.222.33.87 |
One thing that AM's followers will try to trip you up on is they'll say. "I don't hate the Jews, I love my Brother Judah". That's code for I love the true Jews to which they ascribe who is and who isn’t. Trying to pin them down and who isn't truly Jewish can be frustrating. They're good at doing the old Murray two-step when cornered. Else they'll gang up on you and call you names, Kenite is one of them. This is typical of sects such as these. | ||
| servant08 (servant08) New member Username: servant08 Post Number: 8 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 70.162.88.190 |
I'm glad you admit not all are racist. " Satan enters in to ALL God's Truth to turn us aside. Some fearful ones have succumbed to the Tempter and taken this information to it's worst possible end; White Supremacy. They become The Elite Chosen People of God. Rubbish! ! ! Beware. The Lost Tribes teaching is supposed to end in glorifying GOD, not man." Source: http://asis.com/~stag/losttrib.html I'll try not to call anybody names!  | ||
| terluvire (terluvire) Intermediate Member Username: terluvire Post Number: 181 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 24.229.6.62 |
godchild wrote: Quote: ---------------------------------------------- Believes that the true identity of the ten lost tribes of Israel is the white, Anglo Saxon race. A number of independant churches and organizations (including some militant rascist groups) make up the general movement. Most deny the trinity. Some teach a form of the serpent seed doctrine.= believing that Jews are descendants of Eve's sexual relations with the serpent, and are thus not fully human. Non-whites are descended from the union of Cain and a woman from a pre-Adamic race.) ---------------------------------------------- 1. Pastor Murray never taught and neither do the scriptures say that non-whites, the other races, come from the union of Cain and a preadamic woman. All the Races were created on the 6th day and it was very good. 2. The Jews did not come from a sexual union between Eve and Satan. The Jews are of the tribe of Judah, one of Jacobs 12 sons. Jacob is a descendant of Adam. The Kenites are a product of the sexual union between Eve and satan. Thank you for you post Servant08 | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2851 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
From SerpentSeedDoctrine.com of the same name. Find listed immediately beneath: House of Adam, Adam's Bible, Celtic Bible, Christian Identity: white men, sons of God, Bible Gateway, Jew Watch From Adam's Bible, Revelations of Michael Thus says the Lord unto Adam 4. He of Adam who works with a mamzer- be he a negro, false Jew who claims to be a Jew but yet who is not a Jew, Asian, Aborigine, Arab, or other non-Europian man--shall be as a murderer of his own children in my eyes. 15.You have damned yourselves by your association with all the people of the devil, for all you know are Negroes, Aborigines, false Jews who claim that they are Jews but are not Jews and never were, Asians, Arabs, and the other serpent seed minion. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2852 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
Cont. from AdamsBible.com and SerpentSeed.com 21 Instead, I bring out seeds of Adam yet untarnished. And I have placed them in the lands of all the Northern Europe where the children blush each day..... And the Urals shall be a place for my people to lie down with all their flocks. So shall they recline in majesty within the Caucasus, the Alpines, Transvaal, Appalachians, and the New Zealand's fjord mountain peaks. On hills around the world, I will assemble them. 22. No mamzer born shall come to harm them, for the edges of their hills I make so steep that even goats cannot access them there. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2853 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
Cont. from serpentseed.com and adamsbible.com 23. I shall hide them in Ohio, Massachusetts, Cornwall, Chelsea, Brittany, Norway, Finland, Saxony, Czech, Ukraine, Siberia and other places so that all the world shall have them near for that great day in which my arm comes down with sword in hand to smash the forces of the serpent seed, dash out their brains, until not one escapes perditions darkening hold, so all their seed shall die before my holy mountain, as Adam's hand comes down to send them packing from the earth forevermore. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2854 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
I cannot bear to look on this blasphemous hatred filled garbage any more today. And we in the West wonder why other nations hate Americans. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2855 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
As a white American woman, I will die before I align myself with these creatures of hate and bigotry. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2856 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
I will stand side by side with any person not a part of the enemies of all that is Pure and Good, all that is Clean and Holy; these serpent seed people who have murder in their souls. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2857 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
terlu, Read some of the posts your brothers/sisters have written here. Ezekiel has plainly stated that Adam was born AFTER the sixth day, that there was a race before Adam. Open your eyes. Don't listen to me. Read what they have said. | ||
| terluvire (terluvire) Intermediate Member Username: terluvire Post Number: 184 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 24.229.6.62 |
God created all the races, including the white race, on the sixth day. On the eight day God formed Adam. 6th day- animals THEN man 8th day- Adam THEN animals | ||
| arron (arron) Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 1619 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.204.41 |
where do you find that GOD created adam on the 8th day? bible answer not your thought or murrays. | ||
| ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37) Advanced Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 627 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.192.223.192 |
yes they do arron... We have explained that to you more than once Did you research into the 'farmer' that God created after the Sabbath? The man to 'till the field'. That's where we 'find it'. Where do you find that God did not create Adam on the 8th day? 6th day-mankind 8th day-Adam peace c | ||
| ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37) Advanced Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 628 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.192.223.192 |
godchild wrote terlu, Read some of the posts your brothers/sisters have written here. Ezekiel has plainly stated that Adam was born AFTER the sixth day, that there was a race before Adam. Open your eyes. Don't listen to me. Read what they have said. Actuall godchild...Adam was NOT born, but created from the soil. Have you not read that? And yes, that's true about Adam being created on the 8th day. Whether the White race was created on the 6th day or the 8th day is not the point! I really don't know. There could have been more than one creation of the white race, that's something that I'll reserve judgement on, for it doesn't matter to me. Only that ALL races were Good in GOD's eyes! And He was PLEASED. There is however a PURE seedline which lead to Christ Messiah being born. In the 2 years that I have been watching the Shepherd's Chapel, I havn't heard Arnold Murray teach what you claim, and if he did, it's his opinion which he has a right to, as you do-even if yours is a delusional standpoint! The point is that the ADAMIC race was created on that 8th day! And yes, I state that God's Word teaches that we ALL were alive, in spiritual bodies, before the accounts of Gen1:2 and scriptures that follow. We are here for a test, and then we go home, or for those that are alive at Christ's return, they will join Him in their spiritual bodies and meet the multitude of saints that Christ brings with Him in the Millenium. And what about it? | ||
| arron (arron) Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 1624 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.204.41 |
no i dont want any more lies i want the exact verse that says GOD CREATED A FARMER ON THE EIGHTTH DAY. i want to know where it says THAT GOD CREATED ALL RACES ON THE SIXTH DAY. VERSE AND CHATER THATSAYS THIS. YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERD MY QUESTION ( I DOUBT YOU EVER WII SINCE YOU CANT for there are no verses that say suh things. | ||
| ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37) Advanced Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 629 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.192.223.192 |
arron, a farmer "TILLS THE SOIL!" Read the VERY beginning of GEN 2. That's your proof for Adam being created on the 8th day. After the 7th day of rest. Use your God given mind and figure it out! All the races or 'mankind' was created in Gen 1. Read it and you'll find it! Arron....you refuse to do your own homework. Have you even TRIED to understand the HEBREW definitions that have been documented? Did you get your free edition of E-SWORD yet? It's a free dictionary! Or will you just deny without proof? | ||
| servant08 (servant08) New member Username: servant08 Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 70.162.88.190 |
You're the one who posted it (previously in red). All you've done is document that there are some that do preach hate / superiority, and I have documented that some do not. (Message edited by servant08 on February 27, 2006) | ||
| terluvire (terluvire) Intermediate Member Username: terluvire Post Number: 185 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 24.229.6.62 |
godchild Quote: ---------------------------------------------- terlu, Read some of the posts your brothers/sisters have written here. Ezekiel has plainly stated that Adam was born AFTER the sixth day, that there was a race before Adam. ----------------------------------------------- Lying again godchild! Ezekiel never stated Adam was born. And Ezekiel is right, all the races were created before Adam was FORMED! You are trying to cause discord amongst us which isn't going to work. | ||
| ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37) Advanced Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 633 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.192.223.192 |
thx ter.... Be blessed in Christ | ||
| danispeachy (danispeachy) Member Username: danispeachy Post Number: 70 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 65.30.148.114 |
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. … Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day… Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made… Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground… Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. | ||
| terluvire (terluvire) Intermediate Member Username: terluvire Post Number: 188 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 24.229.6.62 |
You're welcome Ezekiel  Danis, straight and to the point from our Father's word. Let's see: 1.Gen.Chapter 1 God created the animals and then He created man 2.Gen.2:2 God rested on the 7th day. 3.Gen.2:7 God formed Adam. He was to till the ground. A Farmer. THEN 4.Gen.2:19 God formed animals and Adam named them. Agape, terluvire | ||
| arron (arron) Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 1627 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.204.41 |
although i do read some commentaries i do not read thise who are filled with things the bible does not teach such as your abonable doctrine of serpent seed and adam created on the 8th day and all other races created on the 6th day, if the bible doesnt say it i dont believe it either. god create ADAM AND EVE abd from them came all others there were no other creations after the sevent day rest. there is no kenites born of eve and the serpendt and adam and eve did not have sex with the serpent. | ||
| ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37) Advanced Member Username: ezekiel_37 Post Number: 640 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.192.223.192 |
Arron, please understand that the events in the book of Gen are in order. They are cronological 6th day mankind was created. 7th day God rested. then..... God states that their is no man to till the field, this is after the 7th day Arron! Adam is created, alone for a reason. Concentrate on this alone first, and then move on to the next subject! peace c | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2868 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
arron, for more on these evil teachers, go to www.biblestudysite.org. They will deny association, but you will see the exact same things said here, and it gets worse. Note, they recommend a book sold only at Shepherd's Chapel Book Store with the name, address, and phone no. Stay safe in the arms of the Lord, arron. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 2869 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.43.26 |
If they succeed in getting me off of factnet, please come to www.cultbusters.com.au. By all means, learn more about the real reason behind their teachings, and help expose them. In Jesus' name I pray, godchild for His glory forever and ever. | ||
| servant08 (servant08) New member Username: servant08 Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 70.162.88.190 |
Only you can get yourself removed from factnet. You accused me of being white-supremist, and I told you I am half Mexican and Syrian. You and most of your colleagues engage in psuedo-reasoning. It is not my intention to commit an ad hominem, I am not using this to try to discredit what is posted: but much of what I see posted against The Shepherd's Chapel here is irrational. | ||
| abiyah (abiyah) Intermediate Member Username: abiyah Post Number: 286 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 24.59.129.216 |
godchild; Regarding the website that you have found and are now telling folks to check out; which was NOT wise on your part in MY OWN opinion, do I IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM recommend, NOR do I suggest that Christians seek out Truth from that particular website. Now... look, and I pray that you have not lead one of The Lord's lambs, that being a babe in Christ to that particular teacher. You know ?.... someone can claim to be a teacher of Father's Word, and that teacher could in fact teach much of God's Truth, "BUT" it is that small part that is NOT of God's Word which makes it a lie ! Although, any follower of Christ MUST recall the Words of Christ, who was indeed The Very Living Word of God, as He saith " Ye "SHALL" know them BY THEIR FRUITS [ Matthew 7:16 ]; that fruit being God's Word, ALL of God's Word which is True ! **** Lets look at a example of someone who loves to take God's Word out of context. Luke 4:9 -11 " "And he[ he= being satan] brought Him to Jerusalem, and set Him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto Him, "If Thou be The Son of God, cast Thyself down from hence; "For it is written, He shall give His angels charge over thee, to keep thee;"And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. " Nooo, no it is NOT written ! Now SEE Psalm 91:12, and you will see that satan changed/twisted/mis-quoted God's Word just enough to make it a lie; However; IF one is not well founded in our Father's Word they will never know the difference; IF one does NOT check out what The Word of God says for themselves they may NOT realize that satan added words and took away some words from The Word of God. One can NOT take The Scriptures out of context. And anyone who desires to LEARN God's Word MUST TEST the fruit of any teacher of God's Word, and ask yourself... DO they, or DO they NOT teach God's Word ? Allowing The Holy Spirit to lead, guide, and direct you through God's Word bring forth wisdom, knowledge, and understanding to the forefront of your mind which can ONLY, and I DO MEAN ONLY come from THE LORD. You MUST use spiritual discernment. And that's that, and that is all I have to say about it. Abiyah | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 3086 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.41.167 |
It's never all you have to say about anything, abi. Genesis 1 through 2:3 is defining what God did. Then he rested. Verses 4-7 are a compact statement of the things that happened in chapter 1 through 2:3. The Bible often shows something that is happening at a certain time, then goes back to reaffirm past events. Haven't you ever read a book or watched a movie that will start in a certain place, jump to events in the past for most of the story, then in the end goes back to the first, which is now? This is what the Bible has done in saying, "This is the history of the heaven and earth when they were created..... " Genesis and 1 and two are not talking about two creations. That is absurd. scer's have the same problem reading Revelation which not only speaks of the last days but is speaking also of the whole history of the earth times until the end. It is not about the end. You need to get a good Biblical graph showing that up to the seventh trumpet, all things in Revelation have already come to pass. If you are not ready now for the Lord's coming, you will be waiting for hell-fire and damnation. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Senior Member Username: godchild Post Number: 3087 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 4.255.41.167 |
It's never all you have to say about anything, abi. Genesis 1 through 2:3 is defining what God did. Then he rested. Verses 4-7 are a compact statement of the things that happened in chapter 1 through 2:3. The Bible often shows something that is happening at a certain time, then goes back to reaffirm past events. Haven't you ever read a book or watched a movie that will start in a certain place, jump to events in the past for most of the story, then in the end goes back to the first, which is now? This is what the Bible has done in saying, "This is the history of the heaven and earth when they were created..... " Genesis and 1 and two are not talking about two creations. That is absurd. scer's have the same problem reading Revelation which not only speaks of the last days but is speaking also of the whole history of the earth times until the end. It is not about the end. You need to get a good Biblical graph showing that up to the seventh trumpet, all things in Revelation have already come to pass. If you are not ready now for the Lord's coming, you will be waiting for hell-fire and damnation. | ||
| ex_wol New member Username: ex_wol Post Number: 22 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 76.183.42.81 |
It's a very simple explanation, folks. The "Christian Identity Movement" is anti-semitic- nothing but the Klan by another name. A bunch of redneck, ignorant hillbillys- racists. To call them "Christians" is an oxymoron. Peace- |
