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uncharmed (uncharmed)
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 129
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 72.130.228.21
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 8:12 am: | 
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carman why would you allow some of the dirtiest and truly defiling images on public or channel tv to be before your eyes?
why would you go "wild on E" or let their sleazy, porno, lusty, sacriligious, rude, crude, lude, indulging, immoral, substance abusing, nude, vain, rebellious, worldy stuff be anywhere near you?
why would you let E minister anything to you, even information? why would you recklessly allow it to flow spiritually into your home or bus or where ever?
put a block on it. renounce it. let it go.
get everyone you know to write letters and emails against it. you shock me. shame on you!
it really is one of the worst things you could participate in with your mind and spirit. it is changing and corrupting people all of the time.
before i posted this, i woke up at 12 mid after going to bed around 10. i could not sleep then due to two hours of warfare and i asked the Lord what to do. it was really truly intense warfare. i called a friend for prayer and they had discernment that a pastor was having ill will about posts on factnet and that he was or had been speaking words to someone.
i kept praying and asking the Lord what to do. i felt like the Lord told me to look on factnet. which was the very last thing on my mind believe me before the Lord! i did and i emailed someone and the really weird pressure and waves of disapproval went away.
look carman, there are people in your life and things you have said and done and probably thought many many many things,(myles monroe teaches that thoughts are words)(marilyn hickey teaches that ill will can curse)that have sent out curses and hinderance.
carman you need to stop being arrogant, punky and rude, manipulative and revengeful and ask the Lord to show you who you need to bless and what you need to repent for.
if you don't think you have a negative impact on some people you are being dishonest. you need to correct these people who put you on an unrealistic pedastool and who give you too much credit. you better give credit to some of the people you have cursed and accused and make things right with God.
also the people who are your loyalists show some of the meanest character and they have some of the weirdest witchcraft coming out from them. the Bible says the sheep become like the sheperd. you better face up to this. why is there so much unkindness, self righteousness, arrogance, pride, stubborness and control and that constant sarcasm and exaggerations about you, that comes with the people who are so darn devoted to you? Or the girls from your chat room? this says something about you.
what are you going to do about that as a Christian and a person who has a ministers liscense?
i have never said that i am a prophet, but i made a decision to break my silence now because i heard the Lord speak to me about you. it wasn't even during a time when i was thinking about you. He said to warn you, to tell you, (whoever this is about) "Touch not My Anointed One and do My Prophet NO HARM".
only you can know what that means and anyone you are talking to. you are being a bad example by watching E. the warfare that comes from you or the people who have something off in their heart about you pastors or fans or whoever they are, must stop. you don't think that you are ever chastened or reap anything do you?
did you see pastor TD Jakes preaching at the Atlanta Fest on tv last night? did you listen to what he said about "cussing and cursing" and how he would rather be cussed than "cursed"? did you hear him talking about Christians cursing other Christians and family cursing and setting up hinderances and lots of other things? did you listen when he was powerfully anointed and talked about how God feels about mistreating others? have you heard the teaching on the Sheckem Incident? what about what was involved in that? rachel and and her sister and the tender eyed meaning?
you had better stop it carman. and those "men of God" who are judging and cursing with words or arrogant prayers you need to repent and be humble and remember where you came from. you are in the healing business and the edifying business. you should be going about your Father's business. doing good to others especially those of the household of faith!
and the followers of carman more than followers of Christ you had better stop your unconfessed voodoo and curses that send out witchcraft and cause battles instead of blessings or healings.
the curses you have sent out and are denying you are even doing, are being reversed and turned to blessings. TD Jakes was preaching on "that" too.
you can sluff it off and act like you don't answer to anything carman, but the Lord said what i told you He said. He knows why He said that to me about you and so do you. i don't have to be a famous person or someone you personally approve of to be a vessel of God. you need to be more real and more thankful.
why are you watching cop shows so much? what does that do to your mentality? what is the inspiration behind all that? do you ever evaluate your own actions if you are not in some kind of dilema? you are not a cop and you have something better to do with you time than watch Cold Case Files.
all of you can keep your hate and peeved discounting to yourselves and ask God to forgive you. sincerely is the only way He will take notice. stop judging.
why is the only person on this discussion who asks for forgiveness cingrachillrolling,(grace2) and that is only for posting with different names so she doesn't feel so guilty. is what is being said more important or who is saying it and why? so H F L has never posted with a different name that we know of. no one knows who she is and her content is distorted and violent even though she talks about souls and Jesus.
i won't even begin to mention anything or anyone else it is too complicated and tiring. the Lord is here and He knows all and why and He is good and He will correct or heal whatever is the best.
there are more important things to apologize for than ip differences. and lots more people should be doing it. ever read the Bible and put it into practice?
every single solitary person here and every little group has the command of the Lord to love one another and to go and seek forgiveness and to bless and not curse. God is no respector of persons and He tells leaders not to act as lords over God's heritage but to be humble and to be examples. i am fed up with the arrogance and the meaness of EVERYONE. its a lot of sin.
you can respond from the camp but i won't be looking here until after Thanksgiving because my family and i will be worshipping the Lord and serving Him and having a great time on a wonderful vacation. this is not somewhere that i will go on my vacation.
i bless and loose healings and understanding of the Lord's awesome goodness and awareness of the schemes of the devil into each life of any person passing by or posting. in Jesus name!
thank You Father for Your patience and Your mercy and Your commands. open our eyes Lord and unstop our ears and fill us with love and respect for You more than ever before and for each other according to Your Will. change our hearts and turn us to follow You and make sure that 'they' will know 'us' by our love one for another. we can do it with Your help Jesus and Your power Holy Spirit. let the arrogant be humbled and the cursed be blessed and the guilty forgiven.
Amen.
carman are you taking the time to thank the Lord for this post and for me?
i am dearly, deeply, protectively, 24n7 loved by the Lord.
and He is the most important part of my life and i love Him too much to stay in my personal sins and lie about them.
do you?
i suppose this post or i am victimizing you?
i hope that everyone sees the program with pastor Jakes and that you they let the Lord change you them forever.
pastors stop your cursing and judgments and live according to the Bible. every one who is trying to find out or remember who is who or who is lying or who is wrong or who is right, hit your knees. who is the person who is reading but doesn't post and you are steaming with disapproval and judging but not naming it as sin in your self righteousness? repent pastor and who ever else is doing this darkness "off camera". you are not perfect, your are not Lord and you are sinning more than you admit. where is your fruit of the Spirit? where is your love?
how are "you" worshipping and honoring God?
glad to be going and refusing to sin about any of "you".
don't worry H F L, carman never sins so he is exempted and so are you.
do the right thing carman.
you know what the "truth" is.
you know what the Bible says. |
plainoleme (plainoleme)
Junior Member
Username: plainoleme
Post Number: 39
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 205.188.117.7
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 8:51 am: |
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"The only sure way to fend off criticism is to do nothing and be nothing. Those who DO things inevitably stir up criticism."
Carman sure has been getting alot of criticism lately. Hmmmm.....
I've heard the following statement alot recently. I for one agree. "It's better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you're not."
PLAINOLEME |
mercy4 (mercy4)
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Username: mercy4
Post Number: 10
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 209.222.250.82
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 2:58 pm: |
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Uncharmed, that was a strong message and one that I don't want to water down, even if my perspective on part of it is different.
I believe you did get some words of knowledge from the Lord about certain things, and that Carman and ministries, and others who might be involved really do need to take heed and pray about it, and anyone guilty to repent.
The teachings from Rev. Jakes and evangelist Marilyn Hickey are good ones, and not to be taken lightly. Like the Bible says, life and death are in the power of the tongue. The book of James is a good one to read about this.
And you've been attacked with spiritual warfare from involvement here, and I've been attacked, and several others have said so, including at least one prophetic person. And there's probably more who have not discussed it, but who have been affected.
So Plainolme, it has been difficult to see a lot of criticism, but this is something serious and not to be taken lightly. This has been going on for too long.
These are things that can happen in the spirit world, and even if we are not doing them intentionally, we need to be more aware of what our thoughts, words and actions do to ourselves and others, and our relationship with God. And what other people who are related to the ministry, or who love the ministry might be doing to harm someone spiritually, maybe unintentionally, but they need to take responsibility before God for what they are doing.
As far as the E channel goes, I haven't kept track, but do remember finding it to be worldly, and the type that I have avoided. If a person watches only specific documentaries and is careful not to watch it often, maybe that's why someone who's a Christian would watch it. I'm not recommending it. And I know of someone who closes his eyes during bad scenes of modern movies. It would be better not to watch at all, but that's how he deals with it spiritually.
As far as cop shows go, I don't know if that would be a problem either. I like watching news shows about real life crimes, and finding out why people do such things, and how to protect onesself and others, and seeing people try to solve crimes to help people. So I don't have a problem with that.
As always, we are in this together as part of the Body of Christ, His church on earth, for anyone professing to be a Christian. This is not to sound like we are better than someone else, but things need to be dealt with in the spiritual dimension that have hurt people for too long. The Bible says something about when one member hurts, other members in the Body of Christ do.
(Message edited by Mercy4 on November 17, 2005) |
uncharmed (uncharmed)
Intermediate Member
Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 132
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 72.130.228.21
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 5:59 pm: |
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plainoleme,
carman is very critical and his loyalists are very critical. can i have a Christian stand without you critisizing it and pretending that you are not?
carman is an artist is that not correct? artists know that critism is so totally necessary for craft to improve. if i were you plainoleme, i would avoid the books in the bible like Galatians or Corinthians. you really should stay away from Proverbs is you think that critism is hate. can i ask you why you don't say things to those who are so sooo sooooo obviously hating in the name of carman? what about those people who hate the prophetic and prophets?
are you guilty because you think watching E is okay? BECAUSE IT ISN'T. just because something is on tv and its "fun" doesn't mean you can or should watch it. i mean well you could do ANYTHING YOU WANT. you could. you could rob a bank, you could go to a prostitute, you could buy pornography. BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IT. AND IF YOU DO YOU HAVE TO CONFESS IT AND REPENT AND TURN FROM IT.
i have had it with the tv gluttons who think that compromise is not a problem. okay if you have some trouble breaking free then you should have grace and patience and mercy. but if we continue in sin and don't get help and give it up you are just being wicked. is that TOO CRITICAL?
why do i think it is not good that carman is watching crime shows? because how does that shape his mind and his heart. those shows are not edifying and they are gruesome and depressing. what if carman is watching them because he is trying to replace his brother. it insn't good mental health. does carman think that he should pray over the tv guide and ask the Lord what he should watch or not because he is a minister. or what if its just because God loves him so much? if we watch what we eat and pray about who to share our hearts with, isn't watching programs on tv sharing our hearts and eating the wrong diets?
isn't it hate in carmans heart that drives him to watch criminals get caught? isn't that kind of predatory thinking? does he even ask the Lord what his motives are? DOES THE BIBLE TELL US TO DO THAT? its one thing to watch justice and to like strategies, but if its your favorite or you are doing it too much then you have to discipline yourself. the E channel that is very very very very very very always totally wrong for many many many many many reasons.
i know that carman knows harry salem. doesn't his wife have a teaching or book that talks all about "what your full of or filled up be careful because that is what you will manifest" so be careful what you allow to go into you? i think that carman feels he is entitled to do things that are kind of dirty or worldy because he "sacrifices or has sacrificed so much for God". duh....tah....duh no that isn't true.
our lives are a living sacrifice and that is what is holy. do you think that anyone should watch more than 10 hours of tv a week EVER?
is it a spiritual feeding session? is it liek being stoked out on weed and being in an altered state? does it waste your time and your mind? does it change you little by little over time and infiltrate your heart? who ever said that tv is safe? is Christian tv boring or something? is carman so "professional with his Christianity" that he doesn't like to watch "his job" on tv?
hey plainole, did you have anything to say about pastor Jakes? you were pretty manipulative there in the way you responded, you should be getting a CRITISISM from new life pretty soon.
do you care why the Lord said to me "touch not My anointed and do My prophets no harm."? hmmmmm?
new life has one "insight" to that and then there is what the Lord really is saying.
is he loved for who is not?
if i misunderstood you please let me know, it is very difficult to tell and i am really not used to the kind of people who post in here. |
astoundinggeorgesays (astoundinggeorgesays)
Junior Member
Username: astoundinggeorgesays
Post Number: 28
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 198.59.31.26
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 9:13 pm: |
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Hola, I am back from down under. G’day Mates!
How are all of you sheilas?
All of you chiquitas miss me?
I have something very profound to say to all of you and especially Carman.
I know what your favorite cop show is, Hawaii Five-0.
Adios
George the Wallaby Master
Pssst. Don't tell anyone yet.
I found out I am going to be a papa!!!!!
(Message edited by astoundinggeorgesays on November 18, 2005) |
hopefaithlove (hopefaithlove)
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Username: hopefaithlove
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 68.62.175.229
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:47 am: |
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God has led me to watch the E! channel. Sometimes they have the stories of celebrities and I saw several speak about how pursuing acting or music destroyed their lives but after they accepted Jesus Christ, He healed them... Folks these testimonies are reaching the lost where they are.... Many of you hate twenty-four hour Christian television because they ask people for money to support them.... Here the message of what Jesus Christ can do for you got spoken and not one of your pressious money was used....unless you buy a product that advertises on that channel. God had me to pray for many of those Christians because of their testimony of their faith in Jesus Christ Satan was going to come after them harder than ever to send a signal out and a message that if you want to be a Christian and be an actor you better keep it quiet. Satan worked harder on them to make them fall so that the world and the unforgiving Christian could laugh and scorn them... It was hannah or perhaps inspiration who said TBN could keep a dead horse alive.... Well that's what Jesus Christ is about--- giving us life and forgiving us and healing us because we are no match for Satan... The only ones who don't seem to fail is those who are being used by Satan to distort the true message of love and forgiveness to sinners offered by Jesus Christ from being heard. These actors got it, even when uncharmed and others like her doesn't... Could these "celebrities" count on someone like uncharmed to pray for them???? No. Uncharmed is the devil's on handmaiden helping to reinforce the message that if your are a Christian in Hollywood keep it to yourself!!!
One day God had me to watch vh-l channel and they were doing a show about the different religions that celebrities supported.... These religions were being shown to teens and young adults.... God said this is what you are up against and led me to pray in the Spirit against it and pray that He would raise a standard against it so that we could continue to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ freely while there is still time..... So you want to know why Carman watches these shows.... Here is two good reasons why.... This is where the lost are and where those of us need our prayers of support!!! But these words fall on deaf ears!!! And you call me false!!!
By the way Carman just had that up recently... God is showing what your true hearts are and showing who belongs to him. |
zebra (zebra)
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Username: zebra
Post Number: 45
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 205.188.117.7
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 4:04 pm: |
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Hopefaithlove:
I just read your post # 8 above. Interesting! Let me see if I get what you're saying.
1. God has led you to watch the E channel.
2. God (HAD) you to pray.
3. Satan worked harder on them so the (UNFORGIVING) Christian could laugh and scorn them.
4. Uncharmed and others don't get it even though these actors did.
5. Celebrities can't count on Uncharmed to pray for them.
6. Uncharmed is the Devils' on (sp.) handmaiden.
7. One day God (HAD) you watch the VH-1 channel.
8. Carman watches these shows because this is where the lost are.
9. Carman watches these shows because this is where those of us need our prayers of support.
10. These words fall on deaf ears.
11. Carman just had that up recently.
12. God is showing what your true hearts are.
I really do believe I understand what your saying.
Zebra |
grace2u (grace2u)
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 563
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 152.163.100.200
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What happened to the statements about "I saw several speak about how pursuing acting or music destroyed their lives but after they accepted Jesus Christ, He healed them?" And other similar statements?
It changes what she says substantially when you leave such out.
HFL is just as human as the rest of us. I prefer to model mercy with her (and even try to with uncharmed). (But I am a sarcastic individual and it is hard to overcome this.) |
zebra (zebra)
Junior Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 48
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 205.188.117.7
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Grace2U:
In your post # 563 you stated that by not including some of the statements made by the poster "it changes what she says substantially when you leave such out" I do not believe it changes anything.
A question for you; You posted the following:
grace2u (grace2u)
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 558
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 205.188.117.7
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 5:38 am:
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God forgive me for posting here again.
Do you believe it is a sin for you to post here? If so why do you do it? Thank you.
Zebra |
grace2u (grace2u)
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Username: grace2u
Post Number: 565
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 64.12.116.200
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 6:10 am: |
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I can't imagine that God's perfect will desires me to play in the trash unless it is being used to mold me. I haven't heard, "do not post."
As far as authority, it is permissable. (Although at times I wish it wasn't.)
I cannot find that posting is a sin. Some of actions taken (by all of us) in our posts are sinful.
Tis the dilemma: Is it better to fight and deal with the temptation and conflict head on or is it better to walk away and not deal with it? I really don't know the answer.
There is quite a bit of scripture related to how to respond to others (or not respond to others) in situations like those that the board presents. Running away from the board is not going to take conflict out of my life completely. I will have to continue to learn to respond or not to people appropriately according to the Bible.
(Message edited by Grace2u on November 21, 2005) |
ems (ems)
New member
Username: ems
Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 72.130.230.206
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 7:31 am: |
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G, You are not running away. You would be peacefully and appropriately walking away. If you "need" H.F.L. to "convict" you in the place of the Holy Spirit, then of course you would not hear God say to leave the board and all of the power and connection and I guess "display" you get out of it. You don't have any friends at your fellowship or church? Have you prayed about joining a Bridge Club?
You would be worshipping God by departing, instead of yourself.I asked the Lord about you being on the board right now while I am sitting here and this is what he showed me. That it is "perverse" because you are "operating in fantasy" about who you are and what type of impact you are having. For instance, fantasizing that what you are saying is right and clean before the Lord, when really it is from your flesh and full of your agenda.
It's producing fruit from the flesh.
Mat.3:8 "Produce fruit in keeping with repentance." |
ems (ems)
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Username: ems
Post Number: 21
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 72.130.230.206
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 8:23 am: |
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HopeFaithLove Wild on E.
What color is your thong? How many times have you sunbathed nude on a boat and called for passers by to come aboard? Do you know which bars are the most hott in Brazil, Cancun or Cozumel? Greece, Italy or Istanbul? Did you learn how interesting it was for the Harry Potter actor to be directed by a new Director who told him exactly what to do bit by bit this time?
If you really saw ANY CELEBRITIES "testifying", who are they and since its public information, what is their name and a brief synopsis of the life changing events? When did it air?
Have you ever been led by the Lord to smoke a joint? Has the Lord ever led you to watch the Playboy channel? Did God tell you to watch the wet t-shirt contest and people getting completely plastered on E. Did carman read playboy "for the articles" the way that you and he watch E for the documentaries?
Here is a feature from the E channel today.(pasted from thier website)
11.21.2005
Girls Next Door
Go behind closed doors to see the world of the Playboy mansion.
New eps, Sun., 10 p.m.
Many good things to see and hear there and to pray about while watching right?
Here's something else you have been called to participate in and pray for rightio?
E says on their home page)
Ask the Answer •••••
(its blocked but its the B word on their ad)
Hollywood's a big, confusing town--she's here to help.
Then there is always the new game:
Games
Ka-Boob!
Let us divert your attention awhile--go for bust with our Dr. 90210 implant shenanigans.
Have you and carman ever watched the doctors touch the girls breasts to decide on the implant size or condition? They do total nudity on E all the time, they just blur out the nipples. What about the porn star that he refused to operate on? That was interesting. Or how he is Christian but he is a terrible husband who puts his career above his marriage in every way? Cripes carman must like that one majorally. Or maybe he will get a clue.
If Mark Chironna stopped feeling sorry for him in the "name of love" and became the iron which sharpens iron or the hammer that breaks into pieces, carman might get free of someone daffy and compromised like you. But then Penny works for Mark so there it all is again isn't it? Mark doesn't know everything and he is not God.
He has carman's charm on his face and something dark in his eyes from him too. I don't think Mark watches E, but Penny would if carman told her to.
If you are praying for the celebrities, they need to get delivered from your witchcraft.
Do you enjoy encouraging carman to defile himself?
Go ahead H.F.L., Prove it. Who were they and how are they serving Christ now?
1Co 6:18 "Flee from sexual immorality! "Every sin a person can commit is outside the body," but the person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body."
1 John 3:15 "Whoever hates his brother (or unCharmed in your case) is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."
Isn't that your Modus Operandi? |
ashamed (ashamed)
Intermediate Member
Username: ashamed
Post Number: 315
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 66.79.85.117
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 9:20 am: |
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em,
you really need Jesus , you know, Jesus WOULD NOT talk to people like you are now would he??If God is leading you to say something HE WOULD NOT do it in a degrading condeming way , read the word (the BIBLE!!) does he speak to people like you are ?? does he condem?? NO he is stern but gental, convicting not condeming , if God is really speaking to you about such things , then wouldn't it be received if you spoke the way God speaks??? |
ems (ems)
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Username: ems
Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 72.130.230.206
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 10:38 am: |
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A...shaming,
You have your formula for communicating that you believe it truly Christian. To me its religious. It is odd that the women in your group rarely take the time to point out the things that are said that are viable in content. My posts are not "all bad" or "all condemning" and unlike the Lordship of Christ in a believers heart and mind. You don't like the vocabulary too.
I will pray about your reflections and I hope you will do the same. I posted to you on the other thread. Your post to me was condemning in a way I thought and really aggressive. You don't appreciate anything I said in any of my posts? How would Jesus speak to me? |
mercy4 (mercy4)
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Username: mercy4
Post Number: 12
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 209.222.248.175
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:32 am: |
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EMS, in an overall sense, I am in agreement with what you are trying to tell the posters in your recent posts, with an attitude of trying to steer them in the right direction spiritually.
I checked the local TV guide to see what the E channel has on it. I noticed it has some true life Hollywood documentaries and E news, along with the programs you mentioned that sound really appalling.
So I'm guessing that the documentaries are probably more of what Carman would watch. However, I can see that this is a channel that is spiritually dangerous, and it would be better to avoid it all together. And especially if they have a lot of commercials that have previews of the wrong types of shows during the time of airing the more wholesome documentaries.
And if the cop shows on whatever channel are of the violent type, that should probably be avoided, too. But if they are of the type that show other things like prison life, forensics, why people commit crimes, and with an attitude of helping onesself and others be security conscious, that part is fine with me.
And if someone wants to watch some documentaries on Hollywood people, there are probably other channels that do this. I've seen documentaries on peoples' lives, but haven't always kept track of which channel. There's the History channel, and CNN, and Fox and so on.
And EMS, that's really good that you want to pray about what to say or not say, and about whether or not to post here. It's a hard place to post at, and so it's important to pray to the Lord for guidance. But Amy, when I first read your post to EMS, my initial impression was that you were acting like a mother talking down to a child about being Christ-like, like a reprimand. And it does appear that you protect people like HFL.
And with Uncharmed's first post, I didn't agree with all the negative names she used at once, but did agree with the extremely important bottomline message that the spiritual warfare and the attacks are serious business and not to be taken lightly. And even if someone can't relate, and doesn't yet understand what it's about, it would be a good time to find out more about it instead of brushing it off.
God bless. Mercy4 |
astoundinggeorgesays (astoundinggeorgesays)
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Username: astoundinggeorgesays
Post Number: 32
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 63.164.145.198
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 3:07 pm: |
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Hola Chiquitas,
I went to Paradise Church it was rocking! Man that jet trip was so long I couldn't think straight. It was even longer than going to Puerto Rico.
The post are getting very very blunt. I liked the ones about E. H what are you thinking?
Do you think that anything Carm does is right even if it isn't?
Zebra, you are a cool sheila! That post made my sides practically split.
You can say it like it is can't you? If Carman isn't reading here he should be someday because the Lord is making a statement or two or three. Some of the things you are saying are anointed.
Uncharmed, you said like it is and you didn't hold it back. You prayed and yelled. Sometimes these two together can be good. Hard people need a hard word aye there?
I am going to try to make some Australian talk a part of my life. I'm a dweeb. But I am an astounding dweeb!!
You should be very proud of yourself for the moral stands that you take. My wife waited for our marriage to share that precious part of herself and her soul. She is my gift and she was worth the wait. You will be too. Hope you have a good time in the tropics. My little niece loves dolphins. She has them all over her room. We bought her a glass one for Christmas last year. You are in the prayers of myself and my wife and our home Bible study. Factnet needed somebody like you for a while. I think it needs somebody like me too.
We had a good time in Australia. More than 55 people came to know the Lord.
It was brave man. The spiritual joy and the spiritual battle are both big in that region.
You should all go if you can you would never forget it.
"No Life" LOL! E channel? Well I have seen very bad things there and turned the channel and I did see a couple of documentaries that were thorough, but they do feel funny. Dirty and very much of the world. I don't think they are nuetral and I don't think that you should make an excuse to watch something that would give them a better rating. I do think things can get into you from what you are opened to and so that's another reasons to stay away. Its all lewd after a while. Even those 90210 shows are not good for you.
Okay, I like a little cop show if the bad guys get it in the end. I don't like the details of murder or sex crimes. I don't think we need to know and we can do more with our time that God gave us. They make you kind of jaded or suspicious too. Don't yoou think that the news should be more positive. We should have stories about what the soldiers are doing in Iraq to help. Then there should be stories of good things that teachers do. Okay girls, I have to make a run so that is all you get for today.
Grace chill out jumpy sheila. Why don't you take a vacation from here and come back after the New Year? Make some new friends and go to a spiritual warfare conference somewhere. Some good scriptures are being posted. I wrote some of those down. What is new with any of you Chiquita's? Don't write to me anything that is loco or low. Peace and Glad Tidings because there is Joy to the World the King has come.
New Zealand is beautiful the mountains have first names like Bob.
Adios
GeorgetheKingofKayaks |
ashamed (ashamed)
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Mercy4,
I wasnt trying to be condemning , why would i condemn when i was posting about not condemning people ?? i was trying to make a biblical point. i dont know , it seems that all people want to do here is say im right, your wrong . its making me sick to my tummy the way some people on here speak and treat others , I try to speak the way and try to have a tone that Jesus would have , i wouldnt sit here and say someone is loopy , or ask if they where a thong and sunbath and if they call people over to have a so called party. the way you speak shows who you really are , and your over all charachter and how much of Jesus you have in your heart, Myself i want to be able to speak like my Lord and savior speaks , in a loveing compassionate way and with boldness , i dont care whether someone agrees with me or not , im not trying to win any brownie point with anyone , i just want to speak what God tells me to or lays upon my heart to ,& the way he would say it . and if i get stoned for it ,so be it. |
ashamed (ashamed)
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and may I say , i do agree that the E channel is not a good channel to watch, overall, i do watch some documentries on celebs but thats all , it is a perverted channel, but what you watch is between you and God . not you and everyone else on the planet. |
mercy4 (mercy4)
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Amy, I will not argue with you, but I did not say you were condemning. |
ashamed (ashamed)
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mercy ,
I dont want to argue eaither, sorry if i misunderstood you. |
hope_faith_and_love (hope_faith_and_love)
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Posted From: 69.236.20.170
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ems,
From what you have reported seeing you sound like you watch E and don't look away.... Tell me if Carman said he liked to watch some shows off CBS would you attack him for every show you watched and termed inappropriate? That is what you are doing. People here have said they watched the E Channel and were quick to "explain" what they saw so that you couldn't judge them. Carman failed to do this. There is a reason for reassuring people why we do what you do, but there comes a point when even that is not good enough because these people are out to find something to hold against you. You see that is what the spirit of the anti-Christ is all about. It's about controlling people instead of allowing God to lead us. You see what ashamed and others have demonstrated when they admitted to watching E and were quick to explain thmeselves they did so not out of fear of God but fear of people like uncharmed, and ems. George has demonstrated that he can do anything, watch anything, all he has to do is attack who these people attack and of course say what they want to hear... something to the affect of, "Yeah, I smoked but I didn't inhale."
This weekend I heard DCTalks song "What If I Stumble"....keeping in mind that according to some who have posted on factnet God is not in Contemporary Christian Music.... But this song captures the heart of those who love Jesus Christ and our vulnerabillity and fear to the subjugation of "Christians" like ekklesia, uncharmed, ems, george and so on. And it also captures the true heart of God for those of us who are vulnerable and under attack by these people like uncharmed, ems........and the least grows. |
dejohnson (dejohnson)
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...And I watch the sci-fi channel. Maybe that means I am going to send a plague of tornados from outer space or blow up the world with a pulsatronic warhead..... |
wingsaglow (wingsaglow)
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Posted From: 69.92.107.154
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Ok I go to the movies does that count?
As for watching the tube, hey I like the real FBI shows, to reality shows that really happened. I love History shows, to cartoon Disney films. I also like rip roaring bust my gut out loud laughing at a funny comedy. Yup sure puts the crinkles in the right place.
Wingsy
By the way that was funny dejohnson thanks for the chuckle. |
mercy4 (mercy4)
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Regarding the some of the words used in this forum, it's not necessary to verbally beat someone into getting a deliverance. I'm not sure if that's the right word. A person doesn't have to insult someone and use negative terms over and over, and over and over, especially when it's too concentrated in one post, to get their point across. You can expect the recipient to most likely become overwhelmed, put their guard up and be less likely to listen.
I'm not saying you can't say what the Lord has placed on your heart when you have good discernment, and words of knowledge from the Lord. You have to obey God. I'm not saying you can't ever say some descriptively negative things about someone, because sometimes that's necessary. But pray about your approach, and make sure you are not overdoing it.
Plus avoid trying to discuss too many things at once, to avoid them becoming overhwelmed and shutting you out. For some, though, no matter even if you did a perfect post, they will not listen since some have developed an unteachable attitude.
No matter which side a person is on in this, or somewhere in the middle, or neutral, we have to be careful about how we speak, and do so with the love of God. We all have to be careful not to slip into the wrong spirit.
When I needed deliverance years ago, the Holy Spirit was a combination of loving towards me, but also gave me the truth. I had to be painfully honest with myself, looked back at my entire life, and examined my conscience thoroughly. There was also a lot of spiritual warfare to deal with, and the people in deliverance and healing ministries had to be prayed for as well.
I continue to examine my conscience daily. It's a habit now. That was hard at first, but also gave me spiritual freedom, Like the Bible says that the truth will set us free.
God did allow me to be humiliated by people, though, and that probably helped to get the wrong type of pride out of me and realize something was wrong. But the Holy Spirit was a combination of loving towards me, as well as truthful.
I'm not a public figure, and with my background had it ingrained in me not to gossip and slander. This has led me to be more cautious about posts. I'm not saying my approach is always the best, though, and I like those who are forthright combined with the love of God. Certain posters have had some very discerning things to say, and some prophetic, and have been sent by the Lord to say them. And they have received a combination of blessings and sufferings for answering that call. They do so for the love of God and the love of souls.
So for anyone interested, please pray about how you write. Do your posts prayerfully and not impulsively at a time when you might be too upset. Sometimes it's good to type it on a document, leave it a while, pray about it, and then return to read it again and edit it before posting.
I don't expect total agreement as individuals. There are times when we can complement each other with different styles and thoughts as believers in the Body of Christ. God bless. |
ashamed (ashamed)
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mercy , i agree!! |
wingsaglow (wingsaglow)
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Posted From: 69.92.107.154
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Very well said Mercy, and I agree with that 100% maybe then after the person has cooled down they will look back at their post, and say Man am I ever glad that I didn't post that. It is very easy to jump back, when you feel attacked, hey I too have done it, but that is what makes us human, but to then come back after a cool down is then so much better all around. I left for a while to do just that, and now I feel refreshed, and more filled with God's flowing word. It is so much more productive to feed the heart, mind, and soul with its life, than to continue bantering one against the other.
Good message Mercy
Wingsy |
mercy4 (mercy4)
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Thanks a lot Amy and Wingsy! God bless. |
lampost (lampost)
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Hey ya'll, been awhile. I have to say that i do agree that E channel can be downright nasty. And let me tell ya, do not linger too long late at night when you are trying to flip from the Discovery Channel to Animal Planet, you will get an eye full of Howard Stern and his host of naked whores. It reminds me of the song we used to sing as kids in Sunday School... oh be careful little eyes what you see..... But i will say that during the day or the morning when i get off work I will watch a documentary on an actor and how they made it. I always have been interested in biographys of peoples lives. I have yet to be convicted about that yet, but maybe i will be later.
Cold Case files, and American Justice are two of my favorite shows on televison. I work 4 -12 hour night shifts a week and i appreciate the shows on Discover and A&E cause i can doze off watching them at 9pm and not worry about it because it will show it again at 1am. I think its facinating about DNA. You better not drop an eyelash at a crime scene or you've had it! Its amazing to me how God has it so there is our DNA in every cell in our body. One minute drop of blood can tell you who the person is. Amazing! And i like the mystery of it all.
I have come to feel "safer" watching documentaries...what i like to call "cerebral tv", if there is such an animal. However I do believe you have to be balanced in everything you do. Its okay to read the Readers Digest but if it is something your doing too much of, you can get off balance. For example, something might not necessarily be bad, but if you do too much it it then it can become bad. I also beleive that whats bad or a stumbling block for me, it may not be a stumbling block for you.
I had a pastor talk about fasting. You are supposed to give up the food to remind you to pray. But with the vices we have now, we could essentially eat all day long, but fast the computer, or fast the tv. So, i tried it. Its amazing how much time that gives you to pray and seek God. Everytime you go to to turn the PC on or the tv on, let it be a reminder to pray. I find that almost more effective than giving up food because usually when i fast food i am flat on my back with a splitting headache waiting for the hour when i can break my fast! ( a little exaggerated there, but you get the picture).
One thing is for certain and that has been on my heart a lot latley is to really pray for those in authority and for each other, for that matter, in the area of temptation. Temptation is so rampant and blatant now. Like Joyce Meyer said once, you have to be in prayer just to ride down the street with the way these billboards are lately!
Everything that you ever see, remains in your brain. You may not know how to retrieve it, but it is there, lying in your subconcious. So we all need to be careful what we put in there. Garbage in garbage out. I have been convicted of this area myself and have had to turn off the tube, even if it was my "beloved" Cold Case files show.
Integrity is when you will do the right thing even if no one is looking or can see you. With the advent of the internet...good grief you can have an affair without ever leaving your living room! And, most likely no one will ever know. I have known people in the past who often were supposedly not getting what they "needed" from their spouses, according to them....and so they sought it on the internet. Some chose porn, some chose an online chat room which led to an outside relationship with someone else. Some were pastors, another was the praise and worship leader in the church, others were lay people whose best friend was their pastor. All of their sins eventually led to destruction and sadness. Some repented and were restored and some were not. All this was going on unbenounced to their spouses. You would be suprised to know who these people are amongst us in our own churches and many from the pulpit.
My point is....we need to really pray hard for those in spiritual authority. Even if we do not choose them to be in spiritual authority over us. But, they may be in spiritual authority over others or responsible for leading many to Christ. They may be in a position to lead many more to Christ than we ever will so they need our prayers of protection. This world is real and the enemy is real.
My second point is, we never really know. We truly do not unless revealed to us by God what is going on in the privacy of ones house, life or heart, but God does. And many of us know God and if we pray to Him about those that could be the most vulnerable, He can deal with it in their hearts. I see many of you have received words from God about certain individuals and their private circumstances so its even that much more important that you pray specifically about them. Its a very humbling experience and an honor to have something of a personal nature revealed to you by the Holy Spirit for the purpose of praying for that person. He is trusting you to intercede for that persons behalf.
I for one will not put my trust in any man, but ultimately in God alone. Men (and women) can let you down, but God will not. |
ashamed (ashamed)
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Posted From: 66.79.85.117
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A BIG AMEN Lampost!!!! |
windycity (windycity)
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Posted From: 64.12.116.200
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WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "FLEE FROM THE VERY APPEARANCE OF EVIL"? GOD DOES NOT CONTRADICT HIMSELF. He is not going to lead anyone to watch the "E" channel. Maybe you want to believe it was God but it wasn't. Test the Spirits. |
uncharmed
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Post Number: 162
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Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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Thank you windycity. I just read your post from last year right now. You are so so so so right!!
Lampost if you are ever around again, really really good points too.
Merry CHRISTmas to you!!!
Please post more sane, holy and right on things.
uncharmed |
uncharmed
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Post Number: 174
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Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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I want this to be seen again, so before I retire for the night no matter how late it is, here it goes.
Winks you are losing it. Calm down okay? |
wingsaglow
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Post Number: 485
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Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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I haven't lost anything, and I'm very calm I now know who you are. That's why you are still trying to decieve. Your family has all been messing with all of us who have been standing up for the ministry. You all live for gossip and putting others down.
I'll even post this message again so that you get it straight. The reason why you now think my site has been taken down. Is because I deleted you OXsana from it. Now when you delete a friend they can't get back into the other person's site ever again.
Now you might even try deception and get a new myspace site. There in again comes the Devil under fake names to fake sites that are only used to enter ours.
There in again is the sickness that needs to be set free.
So now I will tell you again Oxsana
Leave us all alone you need help. You have been stalking me only because I have been standing up for Vada, and Carman to his ministry.
So will you now grow up and move on, and leave us alone?
Thank you
wingsy |
uncharmed
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Post Number: 196
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Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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My family is not speaking to you. You are only standing up for Carman because it is self serving and makes you feel like you are in a different league in life.
I have not done what you are saying that I have and so that makes you a liar and an accuser.
Why did the women [you wish and pretend you were close to], because you stalk Carman - take off their myspace sites if they are such good and honest and godly people?
Can't they stand by who they really are? So they are moving in step with protecting the Image of Carman instead of being excellent and trustworthy Christians?
What they did now after being tested proves who they are more than what they say about themselves. You made your myspace private to hide what you are really like and what your real motives in all of this is. Duh Tah Duh.
You go and leave all of this alone because you are doing something that is not ethical or healthy. Winky Stalker you need to find a new direction in life and spend more time with your own child and husband and stay away from other people's of the same.
I am not Ox Anna dorkabounding.
If its saton shouldn't it dovil?
Dolphins are sweeter, smarter and more trustworthy than you. |
wingsaglow
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Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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And you need to go to Vancouver with your new Godly man and take your gossip with you. What is not is ethical or healthy is your lies about Vada, to Carman, and Nancy, to even myself. You see uncharmed unlike you even my husband comes here once in a while to tell you enough is enough, but you just don't leave, and that shows a sickness in itself. Does your new man of God read these post of yours? Does his parents in the ministry know what you have been doing here with the gossip about Carman, and his ministry?
yeah I though so, but unlike your fake life mine is wide open to my husband and you know why??
Because he is my best friend, and we have an awesome time laughing our heads off all of the time. Even when times have been hard or even when his health has been bad. We still rise above it because we are the best of friends so I have nothing to hide like you do.....
Go away uncharmed, leave and run to your vancouver with your Godly man, and leave this ministry alone, and leave my friend Vada alone.
She doesn't need your fake lies about her, and as long as you are here attacking her. I will be here confronting you.
You have a sickness upstairs, and you really do need help and you are stalking Carman when all that you post is about his myspace site where there are fairies to the woman's pictures.
Uncharmed get a life of your own. Big Deal at least those ladies love his music and if they also accept Jesus. then his site is doing awesome.
Jesus sat with the sinners, and those that no one else would even look at, and here you are being a fake Christian by judging those ladies.
Grow up and repent.
As for me I don't have to stalk anyone. I have so many real friends and don't have to sneak around trying to find pictures to attack a ministry here with like you do.
But I will set you straight for still filling your life with gossip, and lies.
Move to Vancouver soon ok?
Get married and then if your husband doesn't know about this site like mine does. Then don't come back, because you are then sinning against your Godly man who doesn't share your kind of sick fun.
I know the truth hurts, but you'll live with it. Oh and when you were telling me that you haven't had sex with him yet. Really uncharmed I don't care at all what you do with him he's not mine, and your private life isn't my concern. So please do me a favor and keep your private life to yourself and that includes your sex life too.
GEEESH! as my stomach turns |
uncharmed
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Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 203
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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You are just "geolous" that I have standards in my life you never had. You must not have any fun because you live on the web.
I think my testimony is important and I was attacked in the past right here by the so so so so so so accurate prophets and apostles. Why would I do you any favors? Why don't you keep Carman's sex life out of yours. If you are a busy body and gossiping with women and their mothers about who is going to or is never going to marry Carman then you must not realize that sex is a big part of marriage.
Is Carman's private life your concern? Yes, I will move to Vancouver very soon and I will look for the statues of you.
I don't think reading the public comments on his myspace is stalking him. I do think that whoever is in charge of that whole thing aught to do something about the occult and the sex and some other things. They probably just want him to have as many friends as possible so he looks more and more famous.
Do you know that he is in Hawaii right now? Geeesh does that make your stomach turn? Did God call him to go over there? Is it like a conquest to him now? Sad.
It is a big deal to incorporate the occult into the Kingdom and the church of God. Of course if you admire Vada and use someone like her to feel like you are something greater in the world then she likes Friends and that is compromising. Birds of a feather. She should be concerned about the spiritual drift of things. She could be eating too much too often and just doesn't even care.
Yes my fiance knows all about these posts. He is online reading them in Canada on an ice cutting ship at times when I am posting them. He is giving me his opinion and discernment. He has been in some very bad storms lately with 100 mile an hour winds, and this has given him something funny to look at. He would never listen to Carman's music its too juvenile.
Some of his earlier worship songs are very very good and he can be so so so so funny when he trys to be. But you have to admit that he got very formulaic for years and the music isn't that great. It really lacked an anointing and he seemed mad a lot.
Really Winks I don't care what you say about my fiance, because he is so so so so wonderful and he is godly. You turn his stomach. |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 508
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Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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Ah then you now admit that you have lied again? For you claimed to be Carman in the other post, and here you are talking about your man.
Thanks again for the insight still filled with lies. |
uncharmed
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Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 210
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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Oh pishtosh Winks. You are straining at gnats and snapping at flys. Duh.
I have to be repentant and come clean. I am Howie Mandel. Deal? |
wingsaglow
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Username: wingsaglow
Post Number: 511
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Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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Oh toshpish unch. And you are swatting at a thousand fleas that have infested your arm pits.
It must feel good to come clean so I'm Julia Roberts with twins deal? |
uncharmed
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Username: uncharmed
Post Number: 213
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Posted From: 206.132.122.10
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This is like paint ball games, but without the fun. Splat. Winks, why are you so alone in this life that you are up all night talking about men and women you don't even know? If you are anyone's elder why are you acting and speaking like this? Duh Tah Duh!!
Sad. Get the ticks out of your underwear and the lice off your sheets and scalp. You are infesting the entire neighborhood and your church. Doesn't your bum hurt with all of those ticks swelling up on your backside? |
wingsaglow
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Posted From: 71.38.210.78
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I could also ask you the same thing uncharmed?
Why are you claiming to be a man when you are not?
Why have you attacked my friend Vada, to this ministry, and even to myself, and my family so bad? i am not anyone elses elder and when I have talked here with you about a man or a woman is because you have claimed in your post tonight that you are both. Carman in one post to a woman in the next.
See when it comes back at you then you don't know how to respond. I even threw back your humor at you and you still don't know how to reply.
As for my lower regions nope I'm just fine. |
alexisd
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Posted From: 70.97.46.164
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hahaha...give the guy a break. This is lame. So, he's not allowed to just kick back and enjoy a little life? Some of you people obsess a little too much |
alexisd
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Posted From: 70.97.46.164
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What's your sins??? Name yours, before naming his! |
alexisd
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Posted From: 70.97.46.164
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Go ahead uncharmed, post your sins first |
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