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Bill deWaal
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 6:35 pm: | 
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If you really want to see who controls ISKCON then all you do is surf to the this link - but be warned that this is NOT pleasant reading!!!: {http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/black/bogus4.htm,},this web site is published by devotees of ISKCON!
These are the members of the GBC - the governing body of the society. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 4:00 pm: |
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Bitter Memories
Former Hare Krishna children allege abuse
By Tina Susman
STAFF WRITER
March 3, 2002
THE MOLESTATIONS began at age 8, and by 9, as her body began showing the first curves of maturity, Melody Gedeon was being eyed as marriage material. She was first raped at 13, she said, but instead of sympathy she got anger from the community, which accused her of being a temptress who had wrecked her assailant's marriage.
Through it all, say Gedeon and dozens of other children of Hare Krishna followers, there were days locked in roach-infested rooms, nights listening to the cries of other abused children and mornings with their faces pressed into urine-soaked bedding by teachers angry they had wet their pants.
Now 31, she still wets the bed sometimes and runs at the sight of a cockroach.
Found at: http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-ushare032608159mar03.story?coll=ny%2Dnews%2Dprint |
Bill deWaal
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 2:56 am: |
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I have recently "lost" my wife to this cult. The manner in which they approach the prospective "devotee" is very subtle and clever. Even her so called "guru", who she eventually trusted and believed before even talking to me about any matters in the home, knew she was married to a Christian did not warn her of what the consequences to our marriage would be if she became an "initiated" member of the cult. Their literature even says they must forsake family to be able to reach the "higher plane of conciousness." The new devotees are told they are worshipping the same God that the Christians worship. But only has to surf the Internet to see what this cult is all about. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 6:31 pm: |
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Former Hare Krishna children allege abuse
Hare Krishnas more involved in sexual abuse than others ?
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The only non-Catholic denomination that has been plagued with allegations of widespread child sexual abuse is the Hare Krishna movement, a small Hindu-like sect. Scores of people have alleged that they were sexually abused as children at Hare Krishna boarding schools in the 1970s and 1980s.
But the Hare Krishnas have been far more open than the Catholic Church in responding to the crisis, which has forced a number of Hare Krishna temples into bankruptcy. The Hindu sect published a detailed expose of its own wrongdoing, written by a Middlebury College sociologist, in its official journal in 1998; a year earlier it had set up a child protection office to investigate and report to authorities instances of child abuse.
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Watch that pedophile priest purge not become a witch-hunt
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They need to remember that false accusations can be made.
During a 1990s wave of "recovered memory therapy," for example, thousands of women and men were led to believe they had repressed memories of childhood sexual abuse, incest and even satanic cult murders. Adult children accused their parents, siblings and other childhood figures of hideous crimes. Families were ripped apart forever.
Truth became a national casualty.
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Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 12:23 am: |
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Nation: Hare Krishna congregations to file for bankruptcy, spokesman says
Copyright © 2002 AP Online
By STEPHEN MANNING, Associated Press
LANHAM, Md. (February 6, 2002 7:37 p.m. EST) - Hare Krishna congregations named in a $400 million lawsuit alleging sexual and emotional abuse of students at several boarding schools will file for bankruptcy to avoid being sued, a spokesman for the Hindu sect said Wednesday.
About a dozen congregations will start filing for Chapter 11 reorganization next week in several states, said Anuttama Dasa, a Maryland-based spokesman for the International Society of Krishna Consciousness, or ISKCON.
"We don't believe that innocent members and congregations should be held accountable for the deviant behavior of individual acts committed 20 or 30 years ago," he said.
The group hopes that if their plan is approved by federal bankruptcy judges, the lawsuit filed in Dallas by former boarding school students will be dismissed.
^^^The Texas lawsuit alleges young children at Krishna schools in India and the United States were terrorized by their instructors. There are 94 plaintiffs in the lawsuit, according to the office of Windle Turley, the Dallas attorney who filed the lawsuit.
They allege that young girls were given as brides to older men who donated to the religious community. Children also allegedly were deprived of medical care, scrubbed with steel wool until their skin bled, and prevented from leaving the schools.
Turley has said the abuse started in 1972 at ISKCON's first school in Dallas and continued in six other U.S. schools and two in India. He said ISKCON knew that sex offenders were working in their schools.
^^^The faith's spiritual leader believed children as young as 5 should be sent to boarding schools so they can learn to be pure devotees.
Roughly a dozen schools operated in North America by the late 1970s, but all have since closed. There are currently 75,000 Hare Krishnas in North America
Extracted from http://www.nandotimes.com/nation/story/242307p-2304122c.html |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 2:09 am: |
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I am looking for other ex-krsna children like myself who have been left out of the turley suit like myself. |
Edmund
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 3:24 am: |
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seeking former members of the krishna temple in berkeley CA, who have had sexual abuse experience or physical abuse forced on them. I am compiling a resource for groups in the area.
thanks
Edmund |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 9:53 pm: |
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You are seeking information on a very difficult thing. As you know, Krishna devotees do not practice sex, unless it is for reproduction . . . |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 12:52 am: |
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unfortunately the fact is that many practiced forced sex on many of us even though it is one of their main laws. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 5:26 pm: |
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Harrison left Hare Krishna society out of will
IANS[ SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2002 10:35:52 PM ]
LONDON: The waiting game within the Hare Krishna society has ended after the revelation that former Beatle George Harrison had not left it a penny.
It was widely reported after his death that he would leave $30 million to the Hare Krishna trust. But the will, publicised on Friday, showed that he left the entire estate of $150 million to his wife Olivia and then their son Dhani, 25.
/// Harrison had donated his ranch in Lethmore Heath village just north of London to the Hare Krishna group. That had led many followers of the sect to believe that there would be a substantial legacy to the group from his will.
/// http://203.199.93.7/cms.dll/xml/comp/articleshow?artid=29895104 |
Sunil R V
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 12:28 pm: |
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hey do you think that there mustnt be an intention of pleasure through work,,isnt it,,then is it through determination that pleasure has to be avoided with work,,like if music is heard,,then pleasure of music is avoided how |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 3:47 pm: |
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I came to this temple from home and the temple prisident is a perv. The GBC is well aware of the problem, yet does nothing about it. At least 4 woman have complained about this man, yet there he is. I do not go to the temple anymore, I go to a catholic church, but in my heart I am Krishna Conscious.
Are any of you still into the core believe of Krishna? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 2:46 pm: |
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THERE ARE PERVS AND RAPISTS EVERYWHERE IN OUR WORLD BUT WE SHOULD NOT CONDEM A RELIGION FOR IT. I AM A HAPPY KRISHNA DEVOTEE AND I PRAY THAT KRISHNA WILL LET ALL THOSE VICTIMS SURVIVE THEIR TORMENT AND ABUSE. THIS IS A DEMORALISED WORLD, NOT BECOS OF KRISHNA BIT BECOS MAN HAS ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE LIKE AN ANIMAL, EAT, SLEEP, FIGHT AND HAVE SEX, JUST LIKE ANIMALS, NON DIFFERENT. LET US BE DIFFERENT AND USE OUR MINDS TO CONCENTRATE ON GOD TO BETTER OUR SURROUNDINGS A LITTLE. IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERNCE. KRISHNA IS WITH YOU ALWAYS, THINGS COULD BE WORSE.. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 5:28 pm: |
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Hare Krishna,
Hare Krishna,
Krishna, Krishna,
Hare Hare.
Hare Rama,
Hare Rama,
Rama Rama,
Hare Hare... |
M Rosenberg
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 12:43 pm: |
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Hello
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www.stopoffending.com |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 1:06 pm: |
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Yes, of coarse there are pervs in everywalk of life, but sadly as a Krishna Conscious woman, I cannot go to my temple because the temple president is a perv. The GBC know about it. Yes. They say it is the girls karma that allows them to get raped.
Why does not the GBC protect us?
It has never happened to me personally but several of the girls here copmplained, and they were told to leave, instead of removing the perv.
And the temple president let in a man who was kicked out of another temple, there was a court order to keep him out of his home temple, because he sexually abused his own daughter and served time in prison for it. He gladly admits this information to everyone, and also the fact that he shouldnt be around children! Thank god this prabhu left on his own, because he was giving Gita lessons at this temple for quite a time.
So, its a strange attration.
The religion itself is so pure and lovely, then girls are suckered in and raped, and if rape is not stopped, then it must be the GBC(thats the governing body of ISKCON-for those who dont know)at fault, because they can stop it by removing the know pervs from positions of power.
Excuse me, I am just a woman, not really worthy of rights, I am chattel.
Ok, then what of the little boys who get molested?
A child was sent away to be homeless from this temple, because a senior saw that the child was volnerable to molestation, now that child is homeless living in a shack with a parent who can barely provide food. And after years at living at the temple, kicked out to proctect the child!
Shame. |
cmb2041
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 8:37 pm: |
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I am reporter studying at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in New York City. I am researching an article about the Hare Krishna recruiters selling books/flower/etc in low income minority neighborhoods -- not the usual airports and college campuses of the past.
If anybody has any experience with the Hare Krishnas and would like to help me out with some background information, please contact me.
Regards,
Charles Bennett
cmb2041@columbia.edu |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 4:44 pm: |
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What would you like to know? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 5:14 pm: |
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Krishna temples urge victims of abuse to make formal claim
By Larry B. Stammer, Los Angeles Times, 4/30/2003
LOS ANGELES - The six Hare Krishna temples in California, along with several other Krishna organizations here and in West Virginia, took steps yesterday to identify minors who may have been sexually abused or mistreated at boarding schools during the 1970s and '80s.
A lawsuit over the alleged abuse prompted the Krishna movement, known officially as the International Society of Krishna Consciousness, to file for bankruptcy last year to protect its assets and, the group said, to prevent closing of temples and other facilities across the United States.
As part of the bankruptcy process, the Krishna temples plan to publish legal notices today in major newspapers and magazines and on websites, urging victims to make claims if they want to be compensated under a proposed bankruptcy reorganization plan.
The move is the latest development in a three-year legal battle over the abuse allegations.
In charges that echo the sexual-abuse scandal in Roman Catholic dioceses across the United States, plaintiffs allege they were raped or otherwise physically and emotionally abused while living in Krishna boarding schools away from their parents.
The US boarding schools, known as ashram-based gurukulas, were all closed by the mid-1980s. In the United States, schools were located in Los Angeles and Three Rivers, Calif., Moundsville, W.Va., and Dallas. Other boarding schools were located in India.
A suit was filed in 2000 in Texas against the Los Angeles, Moundsville, and Dallas schools. The six California temples were also named as parties in the suit, which seeks millions in damages on behalf of more than 90 alleged victims. A lawyer for the victims said the number could rise to as many as a thousand victims.
Victims were subjected to ''the most unthinkable abuse and maltreatment of little children which we have seen,'' said Wendell Turley, the Texas plaintiff's lawyer who is handling the suit. ''It includes rape, sexual abuse, physical torture, and emotional terror of children as young as 3 years of age.''
A Los Angeles lawyer for the Krishna movement, David Liberman, said yesterday that he had no idea how many victims might step forward. He said that ''well over'' 2,000 to 3,000 children went through Krishna boarding schools during that period.
Liberman said the lawsuit ''threatens to close places of worship and punish innocent families that had nothing to do with these allegations.''
The movement reports about 75,000 members in the United States. Worldwide it says it has 10,000 temple devotees, who live at Krishna temples, and 250,000 congregational devotees.
An article on child abuse within the movement between 1971 and 1986 appears on the movement's website. In it, E. Burke Rochford Jr., professor of sociology at Middlebury College in Vermont, said US Krishna boarding schools first opened in 1971 in Dallas.
''It was here that some children were physically, psychologically, and sexually abused,'' Rochford wrote. Estimates of the number of students abused have ranged from 20 percent of all students who attended an ashram-gurukula to as many as 75 percent of the boys enrolled at a boarding school in Vrindavan, India, according to Rochford. |
narendermehta
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 1:50 pm: |
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In the series of conducting artistic programmes, Kshitij has organised 7 successful All India Child Art Exhibitions up till 2002. A Staggering figure of 59311 participants from all over the country has esteemed the exhibitions organized by kshitij & every year about 10000 participants increase the participants tally. Now taking a big step forward Kshitij is internationalising its exhibition for the first time to provide a versatile, broad based, consolidated framework for promotion of art & literature.
Art sees no limitations, it crosses all bars of caste, creed sex & culture to create diversity in unity. Art harmonises various cultures into one bonding & kshitij is just a tool to do that. As the management of Kshitij we wish to create a diversified, modular, self propelled interminable environment for upliftment & promotion of art & literature. We are determined to convert this ideate into reality through interpolation of our directive efforts & your continuous will to contribute towards it success for which we invite all of you to participate.
We hope for a wonderful response from young upcoming artists & people from all sections of the globe to participate & promote the efforts of kshitij. The last date for participation for Exhibition is 31st August, 2003.
You are requested to please send your e-mail address to us at narendermehta@hclinfinet.com as it would facilitate easier & faster communication about all our latest developments to you.
We look forward for your co-operation.
Thanking you
Narender Mehta
Secretary Kshitij
Note : For More Details Log on http://www.kshitij.org |
NewsSnoop
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 7:43 pm: |
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Free food from Krishna "cult," but at what cost?
http://www.cultnews.com/archives/000611.html
Changed:1:09 PM on Monday, July 7, 2003 |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 2:00 pm: |
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All of the statements I see in defense of what happened to us make me sick to my stomach. The defense contimues to be this was a long time ago and now we changed and why penalize the innocent. The Krsna movement was founded on my blood sweat and tears. Those of you that were involved in the begining know that it was not an isolated incededent or two. The established policy was neglect and abuse of the children. I will never be able to live a normal life and I believe that I deserve anything that the movement has. I would like to know how many people can look me in the eye and tell me that don't deserve it? |
U Knockwood
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 7:01 am: |
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Re Anonymous post of July 12:
Right on, brother. That's why the entire USA should be given back to the American Indians. A good chunk of it should go to the blacks, too.
The White man brutally ripped both ethnic groups out of their proud cultural heritage and shoved them into the lowest spot on the American social totem pole. The White man practiced slavery and genocide on these people for centuries.
Because of these heinous crimes against humanity, White people have no right at all to claim this country as their own. They should empty the US treasury to pay the Reds and the Blacks reparations, and they should get their a**es on boats back to Europe where they came from. |
NewsSnoop
| | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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Does Krishna's public relations effort represent substance or spin?
http://www.cultnews.com/archives/000642.html Changed:4:06 PM on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 |
Charlie Gonzalez
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:45 pm: |
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Vedic wisdom has nothing to do with people's weakness.
Hare Krishna is based in a knowledge deeper than anything we have in the west.
Please, read Krishna's books and pray to get rid of the material stupidity of thinking that we are going to be eternal in this world.
Lord Krisna is GOD.
Everywhere we have problems as long as we are in this material world (Churches,Government,Schools etc................)
Hare Krishna! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 7:23 pm: |
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Some devotee told me: «you can't criticize devotee even if he did something against you». When you have a problem with a devotee in the in the temple when you talk about it another devotee will tell you: «talk about your problem with the temple prisident». When you have a problem with the temple prisident what can you do.
An initiated devotee asked me in secret to get pot and I answered hypocritly that I didn't know any drug dealer. I told another devotee about it and he said: «Tell the temple prisident about it» It was totally ridiculous of being told to denounce somebody to the temple prisident because a devotee make to problem or because you see a devotee who take intoxication. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 8:26 pm: |
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Hari bo! Hare Krishna! Bringing light to a suffering humanity in the age of pain!!! Hare! Hare! Hare! |
alan
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:44 pm: |
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Hello,
interested in an obscure folk-rock band of the late
60s called the BHAGAVAD GITA ?
how about 2 devotees from topanga canyon, California
in the late 60s who called themselves the RAINBOW BAND
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MARC BOLAN of T.REX chanting HARE KRSNA on his 1st lp
?
u can read about these and related artists on thee 70s
invasion , a cultural center for obscure music 60s -
70s - today, Hare Krsna and Biblical scriptures,
VEGETARIANISM, Politics, Unknown women in rock and pop
and much more !
http://www.angelfire.com/vt2/70sinvasion/
...send this link to one person today, and have them
send it on and on..... |
Jagadananda Gauranga Dasa
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 8:07 pm: |
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Srutidev is the devotee mentioned in an earlier post. I knew him when he was at the Cincinnati temple, now defunct. He was quite "friendly" even then. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 4:26 pm: |
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v-o-t-e/
The "vote only" service on the internet for people interested in the Hare Krishna Movement, to resolve problems of the Movement.
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the v-o-t-e group:
Vote #1 (The Common-sense vote) -- "Based on 'common sense,' should those participants of the Hare Krishna Movement be demoted / banned who have harmed the movement by not following the wishes of the Founder and initiating spiritual master, Srila
Prabhupada?"..............[Examples of betrayal: Replacing Srila Prabhupada from his sole Initiating Spiritual Master position in the movement; corrupt temple management; Changing
Srila Prabhupada books and recordings; physically poisoning Srila Prabhupada; obscene behavior (child and adult abuse)]
o Yes
o No
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v-o-t-e/
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above.
Thanks! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 1:17 pm: |
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On a small scale the so called Cult can be very fulfilling and effective. You cannot tag ALL the Here Krishna Communes as rapists and abusers of power. Bill Dewaal, shut up, don't be such a Nazi. You did not loose your wife to the 'cult'. She decided to join it.....
Vugo, Jay Acra of Ireland |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 5:37 am: |
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Hare Krsna,
You will not find any thing against the Hare Krsna movement from me. I joined in the 70's and must say i owe the founder everything i know about God and our position. I have come to understand Lord Jesus better due to my association with the Hare Krsna's. And since following the rules and regs. of Hare krsna, now i am also following all the 10 commandments. So i have become a better Christian too, due to my association w/Krsna |
an onlooker
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 9:17 pm: |
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Personally, my experience of ISKCON is this: all they really care about is the propagation of power and the accumulation of wealth and prey on the alienated youth especially in order to use them as human fuel for their religious swindling. The Krsna's delight in breaking up families, denouncing others who aren't krsnas and seemingly abusing esp emotively young devotees. Iskcon, you know what you have done...you can hide behind the tilaka etc but you can never, never ever hide away from the truth...All I see about this group when I observe them is the breaking, the grinding, the destruction of individualism and coercive attempts to forge a false communalism. With deceptive ideology you have forever earnt my anger, a righteous anger, the anger of knowing that you are not the Absolute Truth yet deceive the multitudes by pretending so... |
bonkers
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 1:28 pm: |
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Right on onlooker. Couldn't have said it better myself. The long term effects of being raised in this cult are now coming out. My hopes are that the lawsuit will bring some insight to these parents that are stupid enough to raise their children in these communities. Wake up people. It didn't work with us, the 2nd generation...why would it be so different now?
Ponder this for one moment:
As a parent now, I am constantly in fear of failing as a parent. I am learning to parent from books, parenting classes and therapy. Break the family apart and you are ruining your child's chance at building a functional family later in their own life. I grew up without mom and dad and siblings. I never knew the joys of having a family. I was taught that hugging my mother upon her return from sankirtan was "subtle sex". Now I yearn to hold and hug my child, but somehow...although I love him SO VERY MUCH, it just doesn't feel right. My emotional detachment from my family at such a young age scarred me for life. I have no clue how to be motionally attached to someone, even though I may love them with all of my heart.
Think about this people when you make a choice to send a child into this cult that preaches AGAINST family values. I wish I had known my father.....I might be able to have a better relationship with my son and with men in general. As it is now I expect a man to treat me badly, to leave, to look down his nose at me. I am only a woman....
Think about how your daughter will be as an adult. Think of the scum she will eventually marry with the ISKCON crap being pound into her head as a child.
THINK OF YOUR CHILDREN PEOPLE!!!!! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 6:25 pm: |
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I know exactly how you feel. I have so much trouble connecting even with the people that I know mean so much to me. My partner now has to force me to pick up the phone to say hello to my Grandmother, who is the one person who gave me a chance to survive the trauma. But to me there is no bond it is just like the friends I met last week. Not to mention the other numerous problems we suffer, but at least I survived. I just can't reason out how any parent can believe that what they did or are still doing to their children can be the right thing. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:40 pm: |
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Krishna Consciousness is really wonderful! IT IS ABOUT LOVE! KRISHNA IS GOD AND GOD IS ALL LOVING! When we chant Hare Krishna we open up our hearts and directly experience the never ending BLISS of the Godhead! Bhakti is what it is all about!
IF we are genuinely in touch with the Lord we will be really LOVING in our relationships with others. Some immature souls take their subtle negative programming and bring it into Krishna Consciousness. The process of Bhakti is without defect and IT WORKS! Srila Prabhupada was a Great Saint and I certainly know MANY devotees in ISKCON and out of ISKCON who are VERY SPIRITUAL AND DEVELOPED PEOPLE as a result of their spiritual practice. Being a fanatic or manipulative exploiter is not the philosophy. This is brought in as a result of our material desire to lord over others and enjoy. Our human relationships mirror our relationship with God so if you are not LOVING and HONEST in how you relate with others then obviously there is something lacking! Please do not knock the philosophy as it is PURE but realize that people have defects and unfortunately bring their defects into their spiritual life. Ultimately what matters MOST in this life is our SOUL growth and if we do not work on ourselves and our relationship with the SUPREME SOUL then we have completely wasted our time. Please chant God's names and learn to LOVE and express this LOVE TO ALL SOULS! |
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