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curious1 (curious1)
Intermediate Member
Username: curious1
Post Number: 204
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 70.173.196.15
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 8:30 pm: | 
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John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Specifically, do they believe:
"...whosoever believeth in him..." ?
All the rest of scripture is, imo, inconsequential with respect to salvation if they believe the essential core of the gospel message as contained in John 3:16.
Romans 14:4, "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
(Message edited by curious1 on August 06, 2005) |
dondi (dondi)
New member
Username: dondi
Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 69.108.172.172
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 10:21 pm: |
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From what I have found, they have changed "believeth" to "exercising faith"
By changing the translation to exercising faith , everlasting life can only be obtained by repeated actions of faith {works}. Salvation is a free gift from God that cannot be bought or worked for.
Hope that helps |
marilyn_m (marilyn_m)
Intermediate Member
Username: marilyn_m
Post Number: 109
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 24.222.57.138
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 10:56 am: |
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dondi, That is correct. I have an old jw Bible & John3;16 does use the word "exercise"
They also use James 2;26 to back up that first scripture. |
easeltine (easeltine)
Intermediate Member
Username: easeltine
Post Number: 496
Registered: 5-2005
Posted From: 209.179.141.230
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 3:26 am: |
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Hi,
The question is irrelevant whether a J.W. believes John 3:16, the point is that the Son of John 3:16 is not the same Jesus of the Scriptures, it is a different Jesus. See 2 Corinthians 11:4.
The Jehovah Witness Organization does not believe that Jesus Christ is God Almighty come in the flesh. They take John 1:1 and add the article "a" in the Watchtower Translation. "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was _ God." It should not be added.
So, if a J.W. does believe correctly in John 3:16 they still could not be saved because they do not believe that Jesus is One with the Father. Jesus, they believe is a created being, separate from the Father, and a lesser god.
Erich |
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