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ericlaw (ericlaw)
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Since the starting post was deleted, mine didn't need to be here.

(Message edited by ericlaw on August 01, 2005)
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calv (calv)
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if all you see is crap
its quite severe
pull your head out
before its too late

it might stink for awhile
all sriveled up like a prune
just give it time
and lots of shampoo

before you know it
youll feel like new
join the club
I know it hurts

butt youll feel much better
theirs good company
just watch out
some still got
their heads up their ass
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ericlaw (ericlaw)
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no request was made only a simple suggestion for someone who doesn't seem to be able to handle this environment.
You can admonish all you like if that helps you feel like your being a good Christian, go ahead give me another spiritual whallop, I can take it.

all righty then mr. dave7
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calv (calv)
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ouch!
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orangetwopay (orangetwopay)
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i'm sorry everyone. i inadvertently started this when dave asked me to bring some of the comments he posted to liquidwaves over to factnet (he hadn't registered here at the time). if i hadn't gotten the ball rolling by bringing his post over here, i don't know that all of this stuff clogging the board would have happened. i apologize to all the people who have communicated with shat and i on here for the last year or so.

OTP

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orangetwopay (orangetwopay)
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i enjoy calv's poems. i've never said that he was 'a quart low.'

"...it is an ancient mariner
and he stoppeth one of three..."
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lana (lana)
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Otp, and David7, why, since you two are such good friends,get together and duke it out? Factnet is not the place to bore us with your personal Bullshit!
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pressing_on (pressing_on)
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Please guys, do we really need this, sin is sin whether we are judging another person or were the person doing it.

Personally I looked at a few and got a few laughs but there are some I don't enjoy either, so I chose not to look at them.

The worlds full of nonsence, but we don't have to engage in it, it's our choice.

OTP has a gift and he's using it to express himself just as you do in your words David7.

Maybe one day he'll look back on it and say, it was pretty ridiculous. LOL

Dave it's all a part of being an individual, because you address things in a different manner doesn't necessarily make your way right.

I hate to say it but we have all been judgemental one time or another on this board.

Sorry OTP now you know how I feel.
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jeannie (jeannie)
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Thank you OTP..

David7, what is "ironic" is you first posted here just yesterday and had worthy words and in one day you have degraded your own words. What is "ironic" is you admonish and marginalize every poster and reader for not being "Christian enough" and then you proceed to bring the whole board down to an ugly level. Public forum but public responsibility for your own words. Your words on this forum do not reflect Christ.. own it and grow up.
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ericlaw (ericlaw)
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dave7,
good, i won't bother to break it down for you.
if you do choose to depart from this den of sin, let me just say.... good bye. Maybe you can find a forum on people that are nicer than Jesus, or maybe needle point. by the way your original post on this thread was "personal Bulls**t".

otp,
no appologies needed, i may not like all your humor, but some of it has had me on the floor rolling.
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lana (lana)
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Yes you did call Calv, a quart low. I tried to reread your post, but I guess it was too deep for me. Every moment of my life is not battling sin. WE are all sinners, but by being open to Him, and recognising our sins, we gradually overcome. Who said we are innocent?
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ericlaw (ericlaw)
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bye bye
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pressing_on (pressing_on)
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Dave your stance smacks of the letter of the law and therefore you may be wrong too. The Spirit may be a good place to start.

This is why we find the words "Spirit and Truth" together through out the word.
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calv (calv)
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david7

were just one big happy family
everyone plays the part
ive been in your shoes
when I first posted....
well lets just say it was too much
your ok
its a right of passage or sumthin
stick around, just let it chill a little
the board thrives on this crap
like pourin gas on a fire
you got good points
we get where your commin from
don't know how to communicate yet
sorry
i know its not easy

ok everyone
group hug?
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anova (anova)
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Jeannie,


You need to examine yoou Christian walk.


And after you do, come and join Offshore and I for cocktails.



Anovus
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anova (anova)
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Group hug?


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calv (calv)
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what would jim do
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lana (lana)
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GROUP HUG!
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calv (calv)
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better to be lame
than to be so deep
in myself
the only reality to be seen
is ones own crap
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david_munson (david_munson)
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I cannot drive someone elses car without their permission.I cannot tell someone what the Lord wants them to do in their personal ministration because there are differant ministrations.

I also cannot sit idly by while Those who are supposed to lead,cause division,marking of God's people and destruction of lives by twisting the Word of God to meet their intentions.

I can only do what Jesus has called me to do and that is to follow Him,obey His Word and protect the flock.

I try to do this by addressing the error directly and to be no respector of persons concerning their so called authority.

Do I agree with the way that everyone operates?
No,but I cannot render judgement upon their relationship with the Lord based on the way they address something.
After all,I too am prone to fall and make wrong decisions.

I hope that we can get back to the subject of addressing the dangerous and unrepentant error that has brought us to this point with GGWO.

We are reaching others and eyes are being opened.Let's not allow that to be lost for any reason.We are the gaurdians ,like it or not.

Much Agape Love,
Dave
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lana (lana)
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What must any new person think about Factnet about Saturdays threads? We have an obligation to them, not just for ourselves. The continuity of Truth, in the spirit of humility is what makes Factnet succesful.
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http://www.belch.com/
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lana (lana)
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You are not a bit funny!
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anova (anova)
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http://www.dotfart.com/
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lana (lana)
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Anova, I will listen to anything you have to say about my post. To direct me to a belch site is not what I thought you are. You are not hurting me, but the Truth that is in me. I would never do that to you!
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anova (anova)
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Did you click on the blue dot?
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lana (lana)
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Yes, its just as sick.
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anova (anova)
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I knew you couldn't resist.
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lana (lana)
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Every since I've been on Factnet, I honored you and your wifes posts.Offshore, I no longer will hold you credible. You have shown me who you are. It saddenes me.
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anova (anova)
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Dear Lana,

I can assure you Offshore had nothing to do with these posts.

I did not mean to hurt you, but I felt things were getting a bit rigid and serious on a couple threads.

Please forgive me.


Anovus
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jeannie (jeannie)
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Lana, Anovus is a big tease.. we should be praying for poor OffShore!

I can also make this observation: Anovus is a big mix of crazy humor and fun-loving frivolity but is the most genuine and kind Christian you could ever meet. He is a heartmelter... very few of those left on the earth.
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calv (calv)
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(Message edited by calv on July 30, 2005)
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whitehorses (whitehorses)
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oh puhleez! pull the wad of panties out of your crack and loosen up! all of ya'z
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heather (heather)
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Quite frankly I think Lana has her Maxi pad on tape side up and should get off her high mule and adjust her freakin web tv. This is the 3rd thread I have read tonight with her being holier than thou. Its this finger pointing twits that make me never want to enter a church again...especially If i will be subject to "real christians" like them. F that
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ooops hit the button twice..tell me what a sin that is quick
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sojourner (sojourner)
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It is easy to remove on of the posts when you hit it twice.
You know Lana has been a great blessing to me and I think some of us are being a little rough. She has been through a lot, is in her seventies and has a right to say what repulses her.
I don't want to argue the point but as her friend here and off the net, I think we could be a little more respectful of her life and her impressions, even if we totally disagree or get irritated.
She also has explained numerous times that she is unable to afford a pc on her income. I agree she cannot expect the whole forum to be mindful of thread limitations, but because some of us know that we just continue threads after ninety posts.
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"secular-humanism" - I remember Carleluia mentioning those words. CHS's definition was anything that was not TBS. TBS was the only place with people right on with God all others were humanists.

Calv - was a called 'a quart low'??? Is there a problem here?

I never grew out of body function humor. It is a good thing I live with a bunch of males.

The beauty of the internet unlike TV is we don't have to view things we don't like. If I find a boring or yucky post on this board, I have a scroll bar.
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Nah David you're not a "poopy face," you're just a shithead!

As far as our putting targets on peoples foreheads, I figure if some people are going to sling arrows and other projectiles then I’m just making sure they can see their target and know exactly what they are aiming at! Never said it was right, just giving people a mental picture as to what they are doing when they attack, even if Stevens does deserve it!

http://liquidwaves.blogspot.com/

It’s rather funny that after humping our site like a horny dog on a pant leg with all your posts and love for us, that you now hate us! It wouldn’t have anything to do with you coming over to our site and making demands would it?
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david7 -

My intent on this factnet discussion board is to share my experience in TBS as a reminder to myself and any other interested party that we were once involved in a mind control cult that used fundamental evangelical Christianity and the Holy Bible to take advantage of people.

If it is your intent to point out sin, then you go for it. Others, like to engage in theological debate. There are no limits or rules other than what the moderator has stated on the home page. I just scroll away from what repulses or doesn't interest me.
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appropriate routes according to whose perception?
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Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

In order to beware we must first be aware.How could this be done unless those enrepentant leaders are exposed for what they are.
To not expose them is to partake in their wickedness.
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Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

We are responsible for not warning them.
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Jeremiah 10:21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.

Sound familiar?
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Psalms 50:16-18 But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee. When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers.

Should have spoken up about it rather than to have been a covering for continual wickedness and helped to further it's course.
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What is a watchman?
Is he one who covers deception and abuse so that it can continue?
Or is he one who when he sees that there is no change of heart,calls the offender out on the carpet so that others can see who they should watch out for so that they don't get taken in?

Dave
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I think I will bow out of Factnet for awhile. There are three things that I realize, #1..This an open forum and we can express our opinions. #2... Factnet is a healing haven for all of us who have been wounded in this cult. #3 A place for new viewers to find answers to their questions if they are wanting to leave the ministry. I tried to maintain a "standard", for what Factnet is all about. I may have done it wrong, but the mockery and slander I recieved from some was very hurtful to me. I was made fun of. I wouldn't think of treating others that way.
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No you just go thread to thread pointing with your self righteous finger.

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Otp, and David7, why, since you two are such good friends,get together and duke it out? Factnet is not the place to bore us with your personal Bullshit! Oh? is only your "bullshit" worthy?
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Every since I've been on Factnet, I honored you and your wifes posts.Offshore, I no longer will hold you credible. You have shown me who you are. It saddenes me. . ou sound like a CHS throwback here.. They didnt kiss your ass so now you "mark them uncredible" due to one humerous post.
And you wouldnt think of treating people this way..looks like you just did. This forum is for everyone Lana, incuding you. remember the saying, if you can't take it, don't dish it out? whats your flavor dear?
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lana (lana)
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yOU HAVE A BIG PROBLEM HEATHER!
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That makes what I stated no less credible.
What I have said is true.I have not had to attack someones character to speak truth.

I do not understand what you are trying to point out by this,
"2.) Calling sin (that is clearly named in the
bible) for what it is; is NOT judging (ok Mr. Munson)."

It is very confusing as to what your intent is.

Dave
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david_munson (david_munson)
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Re-read my posts.There are some very good points.

Dave
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pressing_on (pressing_on)
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Dave7 you know what its uncalled for. How old are you?
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orangetwopay (orangetwopay)
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LOL WHOA doggie... getting a little close to good ol' name-callin' there ain't ya, dave7?

OTP

http://liquidwaves.blogspot.com
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gone_to_pa (gone_to_pa)
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Dave 7,

I will step out here with you and agree that some of the things put on Liquid Waves are more suitable for Larry Flynn's Hustler Magazine. There is a very thin line that runs through us which we call liberty. Some can look at the post on LW all day and see nothing wrong or out of step with who they are in Christ. I do want to thank you for bringing up this subject. Much of the material is to say the least not spiritual food. So I guess our question might be, is what we are reading and observing on LW's feeding our Spirit or Inner Man. For my self I will have to say no, though there are many things that make me laugh. To what extent should I go to get a good laugh and at who's expense should it be. Well, as you have seen in me, it usually doesn't really matter to me who thinks what. I have been convicted by the things you have stated previously and will not be going back to LW's anymore to get a good laugh. The post, "Getting away from the seriousness of it all" Dave7, I want to thank you for putting me on point about something that should have been said a long time ago for me. I got a witness on what you said in the beginning of your post about all the obscenities, and pictures, and when I get a witness from the Holy Spirit on something coming from anyone, beleiver or non, it is His witness, and no one can tell me that the H.S. did not say to me that the words you posted in the beginning were truth. Some may do the old rationalize, justify syndrome thing, but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Thank you again Dave7. In His Love Gone to PA.
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david_munson (david_munson)
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David7,are you really just trying to waste my time or are you so bungled up in the head; you can't think straight.

That's wonderful,you can make insults.I'm glad for you and must thank you for you kindness.

What does putting my name into what you posted have to do with anything that has been said?

Since I have not been insulting to you,I wonder why you are such with me?
I will not get into a rediculious name calling session with you.

If you are not gracious enough to answer my question as to what my name in your post has to do with anything,then just say nothing.It will serve you better.

Have a good evening and God bless you.

dave
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david_munson (david_munson)
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Ok David7,
now I understand and am clear about your point.
It was just a misunderstanding.Not about sin,but about why I was named.

I have a site that you will definately find funny.
http://www.trunkmonkeyad.com/4wmv.htm

Click on car theft retrieval system.I bet you can't keep a straight face.You'll show your children this too if you have any?

God bless and have a good evening.

Dave
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shat_happens (shat_happens)
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gone_to_pa

I think you are missing a very key point here, and perhaps it could be called LW’s dirty little secret as to where we get our ideas from, that secret simply is that EVERY single post ever made from LW have all come from things said, talked about or expressed here on factnet! Now I don’t have the time to go back and find every single FN post and link it to the LW posts, but if you’re going to talk about there being NO “spiritual food” then you might want to look at bit closer to home on that one! And for the record, we at LW never said any of it was right, or godly, but 98% of it is at least mildly humorous, even if it is something that’s not right!

And dare I suggest that perhaps there is more going on here than just peoples love or hatred for LW’s website, it’s all fine and good to slander Carl H. Stevens, but let me ask each and everyone of you hypocrites something, where is your love for your fellow brother in CHS? Or hell where is your love for CHS as your enemy? Christ said to love one another, but yet it’s all fine and good to make fun of CHS and call him an asshole and other such names here on factnet! Yet we use your own ideas against you simply for a laugh at how insane most of it is and we become the bad guys? I don't get that!My goal from day one was to make LW a reflection of the things being bandied about here on factnet, sure we might have taken a few liberties here and there, and I don’t deny that, but truth be told, in the beginning we were taking a middle of the road stand, not defending CHS and GG but not totally destroying them either!

I guess from now on I’ll have to start linking FN posts with LW posts so that you all can see where the inspiration comes from!

-Shat
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Besides, Stevens calls people spiritual morons and spiritual queers all the time, Christ even called people spiritual bastards, so is a bastard, queer, or moron really any worse than calling someone a spiritual dick?
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gone_to_pa (gone_to_pa)
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Hey shat,

First of all, you don't know me from a whole in the ground. If you read my story, you will see that I was not run out of GG, as the title goes " Can anything good come from GGWO" Personally, I have spoke my mind here, but where you put your little comment box, you never seen me make one comment. I don't care if you got your insperation from Osama Benladen. Has nothing to do with me. If you are offended in any way by what I have said something the wrong way which i have done in the past tp offend you or anyone on your site I apoligize. I haven't been here as long as all of you. What I will not apoligize about is when the Hoily Spirit comes to me in the night or early morning and as I'm looking at something on your sight, HE (the HS) says to me, you need no more of this, it is not doing you any good. I'm going to listen to what the Spirit says, no matter if you dig up every post I ever posted and made fun of it. That will be between you and God. What I fail to see, is why you get offended if someone steps out like a man and says what you are posting has maybe gone a bit over the edge. Look my brother, I did my time, I don't dance for no-one, but the One who died for me. I don't associate with anyone that is not on the same page as I am. That is why I am Gone To PA. I'll tell you a little story about your 98% humorous, and if you notice, I haven't posted to much lately have I. Not like I used to and that's for sure. Back to the 98%. While serving time in the Pennitenuary, I was elected the Pastor of all the men in the section I was in. About 800 to 1000 guys in this section. One day after lifting weights, I went and sat at a picnic table where the white boys used to sit. At first the conversation was about cars and getting out e.t.c. Nothing wrong with that, but in just a few short seconds the tone of the conversation switched to women. When i heard this one starting talking about his sexual prowless I got up and started to walk away and walk around the track. As I got about 3/4 of the way around a young man approached me and said; Pastor, "I know why you walked away back there" I exclaimed; 'Oh you do, do you, then tell me why" He went on to tell me that when the conversation started to get a little dicey, I left because that wasn't me anymore. Shat or Shak or whatever you want to call yourself, do you understand the moral of the story. Let me elaborate. I worked in a bookstore down on the Block and sold porno and all kinds of stuff that today, i don't have the liberty to look at. Are you guys who have that web-site talented? Without a doubt, but to try and make a joke out of people who are pouring out their very being on a web-site called FN and looking for a way to heal. There is no joke in that. i don't really want anyone taking something I have said and try to make humor out of it. If this is where you have truly gotten your inspiration from as you would call it " LW's dirty little secret" Then i guess that posting here isn't even safe. I have come to learn much here about others and mostly myself. Your dirty little secret is dirty to me. I didn't give you permission to make any kind of a cruel joke out of anything I have said about CHS or anyone still in GGWO. The thing about me though, is I will say the same thing to your face as I would on a web-site. Ask anyone who knows me. I play like that. Many will hide themselves and their identity and for them I say, that is your right and you must have a reason. Many still in know how to get a hold of me and if they have a problem with anything I post, I'll be more than glad to meet them and discuss their dislikes. See, whether you want to believe it or not many times I am fed on FN, and am able to feed others by the things I say. I can say this, before FN, I might have had one or two e-mails when i would come home from work, and that would be on a good day. Now, I'll have 10-14 almost everyday and it is with these people that I get to fellowship with accross the airwaves that I am more tham fed. " We use your own ideas AGAINST YOU simply for a laugh at how insane most of it is and we become the bad guys. I don't get that." I never gave you my permission to use my own ideas against me simply for a laugh. You took me sharing my heart on a web-site an turned it into your own Parlor of Jest Side Show. I never knew you were doing that or I would have quit posting immediatley. I never called you a bad guy, I just said that the Spirit of the living God has informed me that He no longer wants me to look at what is on your sight. Am I now the bad guy because I listened to the promptings of the Holy Spirit? NOT Look you do what the Lord leads you to do. Personally, I have found in my own life it is better to listen immediatley then it is to put it off because of some lust issue I might have. Please do me the favor of not invading my ideas on this sight so that you can as you put it " use it against me" I live in PA, but am more than willing to drive to Baltimore if you want to sit down somewhere and discuss my dislikes about what you have done to my ideas. I trhink it's always better in person anyway, it makes it more personal. Guess you'll be making some joke about this too. I pray that is not the case. Use that God given talent for something more profitable to the Body of Christ or at least if you could, curb your burning desire so that I can share your web-site with my children also without having to explain things that shouldn't have to be explained to a six year old. Yes, I'm GTP, but also Pastor Tom Mitchell. Please except what was said in love. You are not the bad guys and if i said or did anything to offend you in any way, please accept my sincerest apology from my heart. Why are you condemning me because God has told me not to read or look at you rsight. I will look at some of my post and you can too and you will see that for the most part, It was a good process for me and many enjoyed the things I said. I can't express others e-mails and uncover them, but usually I tried to engage in profitable conversations. More to come.
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gone_to_pa (gone_to_pa)
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Hello,
Shat,
I just went through my post, I do keep track of them you know. Out of just 25 post that i find myself on, i have to say, that no matter what was going on I got some spiritual food out of all of it. From my little spat with Sojo, who has now become a wonderful friend. And BonnieScott who when through our differences we learned that Christ is all in all, and that's ALL that counts. I can honestly say that 95% of my post say something encouraging, edifying, and uplifting. Some i have used to teach or clear up certain misconstrued doctrines. If you need a list I'll be glad to give it to you so you can micromanage it and take your best shot. Did I ever go in my flesh on a post, of course, I haven't made it to sinless perfection yet. There was plenty of Spiritual Food on this site if you were looking. What might serve you a great purpose is be so gracious in receiving what you so easily dish out. You have no problem trying to make others look as fools, but let one word of dislike for your web-site then all of a sudden we are all hypocrites. Take your own advice. You know the advice you gave me, about spiritual food. You might want to take that burning desire to make mockeries out of people and their feelings and turn it into something productive. Before you tell me to take a look at my own house, why won't you do an inspection of yours. You will see that some things are "out of order" Dave7, I was convicted by the Holy Spirit by the things you posted. The last time i went to LW, the Spirit kind of said you don't need this, but i guess i was looking for some sick humor. I mean it is good to laugh. But when you said what you said the HS, was more like I told you, you don't need that" And you know what? I don't. Especially nopw that I know where they get all their material from. Us hypocrites.
I'm outty Gone to PA/ I'll be praying for LW's
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david_munson (david_munson)
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Good honest words and prayer.
That's a combination I can enjoy.
God's will be manifest in our lives as we deal with this tragedy taking place at GGWO.

Baruch Habbah Hashem Adonia,
Dave
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shat_happens (shat_happens)
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gone_to_pa it has nothing to do with that, our pictures are not meant to mock or slander or any of the like, we are simply taking the accusation throw out at Stevens and GG, some true, some not so true and using those to show people just how absurd most of it all is!

I’m working on a better reply which I’ll post in full later today on your other thread, but it’s like this, if someone accuses Stevens of robbing a bank to help pay for Grace Hour, then you’ll be seeing a picture of that, now on the other hand, a few folks here on FN have accused Stevens of molesting a child, this is something you wont be seeing picture or parodies of. I’m sure the answers as to why are pretty obvious, it’s just something I don’t feel right to charge to the man. One is in fun and the other is not!

There is a fine line, and we wont pretend that LW is for everyone, most of the old people can’t grasp it, but the younger kids who have been making fun of Stevens for years, just to save their own sanity will understand it! While our parents were sloshing around in a dream like ecstasy every time Stevens would come into town we kids were out side working and preparing the grounds making everything presentable, so the question of “Who’s this guy Stevens (forcing us to work like this), people act like he’s God Himself or something” came into being, and thinking back I’m amazed that some foolish 13 year olds could have enough foresight to recognize this sort of BS! Perhaps it was our “mockeries and lack of regard for peoples feels” that kept us out of the loop! If we have a regard for Stevens’ feelings we’d have bowed down to him like everyone else!

I remember the first time I ever met Stevens, we were at the Christian school, I had just come out from the bath room (the only place we kids could talk, as long as we weren’t heard that is) laughing and making some off color joke to my friend who was also in there at the time, when I look up and standing next to the water fountain was my Pastor and Stevens, my Pastor introduced me to The Man, The Myth, The Legend, I simply smiled, shook his hand and thought to myself, “This is it? God himself? Doesn’t look like much!”

I think so people need to understand just what LW is before they start their holier than thou judgmental attitudes as to whether or not we are saved or even know God! I don’t mean you on this gone_to_pa but others have! Perhaps if Christians weren’t so anal, or made God look so anal then maybe the world could change for the better!
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offshore (offshore)
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No, but good thought!
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OTP/Shat: LW has earned the "Minutus Seal of Acceptance"! While I am not always in tune with your humor, I appreciate your creativity. I do believe God has less of a problem with it than He does with small men who deliberately twist His Word and distort His character to injure the flock.
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I love you all
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calv (calv)
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just a peek in the bucket
next thing you know
raalph and bulahhh
gettin the call

strong meds
thats what we need
it makes ya feel better
just get it all out

everyone does it
from time to time
after a while
it starts to get better

gotta see whats sick
before ya can heal
find some good docters
ones that are real
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lana (lana)
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Calv., I couldn't find your e-mail address, would you pleas write to me.,lana
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shat_happens
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is bessy still kickin?

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